>toyota rav4 plugin hybrid >300hp>50 mile EV only range>600+ mile combined range>making miggers seethe at the pump, while they fill their trucks, covered in trump and punisher stickers, is just a bonusnothing personnel
whys it always gotta be about making people you dont know 'seethe'?
>>534144326I didn't know hybrids were plugin now. if i remember correctly they were all about recovered momentumthis seems a much better model than faggot EV only
>>534144326Idc
>>534144326How much is that car?
>>534144326There's nothing wrong with hybrids. It's EV-only that suck dick. Battery-power only is trash.
>>534144413implying miggers don't deserve a fate worse than death
>>534144326>extra 100 miles of range>still has to get gas>also has to plug it in why would having a marginally more economical situation make anyone seethewhy would you even think anyone cares at allwho do you think is even looking in your direction
>>534144413fpbp
>>534144326Yes, its amazing, only need to drive 250,000 miles to break even.
>>534144667lol this canadian wannabe hick can't into math
>>534144413>t.you
>>534144413forgot my pic
>>534144326What happens after 10 years?
>>534145401ever seen how many prius are on the roads retard, some of them are even gen1 from 97-2003.
>>534144326I'm looking at getting an older 1 ton diesel to use for hauling a dump trailer. I'm plan on specializing in renoviction jobs where I can conceivably sell stuff I collect on the side. Obviously I can also use it for towing a camper. I doubt an EV truck would cut it.
>>534145595after a very expensive battery replacement, fuckwit
>>53414432650-70% of the price of gasoline = TAXESStates, cities, Democrats/Socialists raised those taxes on you. Is why gas is $4-9 dollars in those states and just $2.80-$3.70 in other states that aren't blue.
>>534146396>after a very expensive battery replacement, fuckwit$2,600 (the most expensive price I can find) isn't expensive at allIt'd cost more to lift the engine of some shitbox
>>534144326I have a 98 RAV4 4 door.105k miles.Minty.Black.3” lift.Wheels and tires.Factory center lock differential.Factory limited slip rear. Factory tape deck and CD player.It’s 100x better and cooler than ANYTHING with a screen.Nothing personal.
>>534145669The ford f-150 lightning can tow a trailer for most jobs, as long as you aren't doing 200 mile round trip. Get a used one with the smaller screen, one of the earlier models, and the Pro Power generator option with 240v output. You'll have a battery backup for your home that can last 6+ days and avoid the cost of diesel. Probably at the same price out the door as a semi-new diesel.
>>534146844The tongue weights on dump trailers is a bit high, 3/4+ is a lot more comfortable
>>534146396it's near 500 now if you diy and get a core charge deposit back, 1knif you have it done for you, it's piss easy. my sister has a 2010 prius on the original battery pack, she's like the 5th owner, runs fine with 267k.https://youtu.be/oAHaYXBFnJo?si=UEX5pO7xGLmBWq7-
>>534144326Hybrids are fucking based. I get 60+mpg in my Ioniq. 50 in the winter. 600 miles on a tank. I could survive gas being 10 dollars a gallon easy.
>>534146396It's cheap as fuck and easy to do on those old priuses. We're talking 1-2k max and a day or two working on your car. You WILL get fleeced if you expect a mechanic to do it for free though.
>>534144491>A plug-in hybrid (PHEV) is a vehicle that combines a traditional internal combustion engine with a larger battery and electric motor. Unlike standard hybrids, a PHEV can be plugged into an external power source to charge, allowing for substantial electric-only driving range before switching to gasoline
>>534144326Yes if the government or leftist actually cared about the environment every new car would be mandated to be hybrid.
>>534144326The amount of money you save on gas in a year you could make in a single work day. Not worth caring about and hybrids are also gay with double the amount of shit to break down and need fixing.
>>534147273I am down with that. I stayed from EVs and Hybrids because they should be PHEVs for optimal fuel options. Also I don't want iOS/android tier phoning home bullshit.>>534147382Good point, non pajeet, non chink.
>>534144413>is just a bonusLearn to read faggot lmfaoIcing on the cake
>>534146396>save thousands of dollars in gasoline costs over 10 years>probably more now because the big orange retard keeps driving up gas prices for Israel >hurrdurr muh $2000 battery replacement Please MAID yourself faggot
>>534144655Ahh yes, the only thing worse than death: seething.
new cars starting next year are going to be ai spyware machines that will turn off if you look at it wrong anywayWhats the fucking point?
>>534144326Unless it is a CyberTruck there is no way I am going from a manual to aBITCH ASSHO ASSPUSSY ASSSPECIAL OLYMPIC ASSWOMAN ASSSISSY BOY ASSKEK ASSPARAPLEGIC ASSHANDI CAPPED SPACE ASSSHIT HYBRID SUVYOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A GLADIATOR WITH 6 OR 8 MANUAL
>>534144326$10k to replace phev battery after 10 years lol
>>534147686RAV4 PHEV battery is 10k, dipshit
>>534147804Cash For Lemons. Most people won't understand these issues once they happen in their cars and view it more financially sound to simply have the car scrapped
>>534144612Battery-only is dramatically cheaper to run than gas and can be entirely for free if you have even a small solar panel array
>>534146844I wouldn't feel comfortable using an EV as a vehicle to go camping in remote areas with. Possibly if I had panels to charge it, but god help you if it's overcast and you lack the range to make it to a charging opportunity.
>>534144491Nah I drive a small second hand EV that I got for very cheap and have no issues with it.My girlfriend makes a good wage and was apprehensive to get an EV because shes retarded and thinks she will ever drive 400km so she got a PHEV and gets mad every time the gas engine turns on. Plug in hybrids make sense for salesmen to convince retards like you to buy something with twice the maintenance
>>534148392If you have the money to go camping in remote areas often you can get a beater ranger with the v6 that tows 6000lbs. If you're not a nigger and have a driveway, having an EV means never having to get gas on the way to work ever again, never have to wait in line to worry if the card reader at the station has a skimmer while the pump blasts ads and niggers encroach.
I got a Yaris Cross hybrid recently. Just before fuel costs went through the roof. I get like 800km to a 45L tank. Absolutely based and super funny hearing sub-95 IQ tradies sooking about diesel prices.
>>534144326Prius prime >
>>534144326Who would drive for 600 miles without stopping? That's like 8 hours behind the wheel
>>534144612How so? Charging my EV costs so little that it's basically free to drive
>>534148089>>534148187Fuck off, seething Jew.
>>534144326Yeah but then you'd have to drive a rav4.
>>534147194Lol no you can't. If gas is that expensive then diesel is like $20 a gallon. At that price the supply chain is broken and what goods are even available cost 5x more than usual. Shit would be so fucked if that happens
>>534148777Sometimes you have places to be or is part of your job
>>534148392I've had my eye on this company for years now but the thing never fucking comes out. Allegedly with the full battery suite it has 1000 mile range and it has solar chargers built in. They made it highly aerodynamic so it's very efficient. Or will be if it ever rolls off a line somewhere.It's probably going to end up like the Canoo electric van and just be vaporware. But to me an electric camper van just makes so much sense. You need electric anyway and you get more room so this just seems more efficient.
>>534147382The money saved on gas is just icing on the cake when you drive a Tesla. Everything about the car is superior. You never have to get gas because you charge it at home and it always has a full battery when you leave. Oh yeah and it always drives itself lol
>>534148821What the fuck was this fag trying to do?
>>534144667If you don't charge it, it operates as a normal hybrid and gets 40mpg. My prius isn't a plug-in, but I get 52mpg on a good day
>>534148928I've gone on long road trips and driven until I needed to stop for gas. After about four hours I get loopy and need to stop to take a break. I can't imagine going for eight hours strait with no rest.
>>534148089It lasts longer than 10 years. Battery replacements are actually rare even on the original Priuses we’ve only seen a few. By few I mean 15 out of thousands sold in almost 20 years. It can outlive the vehicle. If the battery does need to be replaced it will be so far down the line it won’t cost half that
>>534149102I think there is something wrong with you then. Loopy should only come after like a full day and night
>>534148970Looks like those 3 wheeler buggies i used to see all the time on the street. Looks really unsafe.
>>534149249The Aptera has a top so it should be roughly as safe as any sedan. Sure if you get T-boned by a F-150 yousa gonna die but that would happen anyway unless you're also in a F-150 or in a SUV or something.Which is why women are buying those vehicles in droves now. They want to be in the tank and their husband pays for the gas anyway so it's basically free.
>>534149249It's going to be legally classified as a motorcycle to avoid crash safety requirements although they pinky swear it will meet the safety standards
>>534144326My electricity prices jumped 50% YoY because of multiple data centers being built near by and an approved hike by my state 'regulators' (aka thieves)
>>534149357>that would happen anyway unless you're also in a F-150 or in a SUV or somethingThat’s why you never get on the road in anything smaller than SUV. I don’t trust general public to not T-bone me. I’ve met too many people left disabled after a no fault accident.Hybrid cars are awesome because you don’t get fuel economy penalty for extra weight. 5000 lbs hybrid is the best choice.
>>534148392It’s no different than running out of gas. Worse case you use the tow service covered by your insurance. Most vehicles don’t get anywhere near 600 miles combined.
>>534149357>>534149416I was T boned by someone running a red light without insurance while i was driving a ford escort. I survived without injuries but the whole right side of the car was completely dented in. I wouldn't trust driving that little car which doesn't even have a standard frame. BTW the British already did it better with their cuck cars lmao. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_Bug
>>534150059>I wouldn't trust driving that little car which doesn't even have a standard frame.It's a carbon monocoque (they claim) so it's sturdier than just a fiberglass shell
>>534148970It's like someone asked an AI to optimize the design for the absolute gayest car possible.
>>534150121I'm not denying carbon fiber isn't strong but mass + inertia will still smash that little machine up. It's possible you will break your neck in a crash instead of the car. That's why cars are designed to crumple as they take the force away from transferring to your body.
>>53414450855k
>>534149147Honestly, the only drawback of EVs is reduced range in the winter and not getting more than 10,000 lbs of tow with the best electric truck on the market (f-150 lightning.)Aside from that with DC fast charging on the newer models, it takes 30 minutes to recharge with a 300-400 mile range. Only the older ones like the chevy bolt are limited in how fast they can fast charge, and even then they're done in an hour to get to 80%. Batteries use a charge curve, you should only be charging to like 80% on a long trip, do your research on what your charge curve looks like, etc.And if you're driving an EV in a winter area instead of a piece of shit beater that costs less than $4k what the fuck are you doing anyways. They spray tens of millions of gallons of brine on the roads nowadays, and unless you personally fluid film your frame (the lanolin based stuff) you might as well say "fuck my life" and expect to take any vehicle to the scrap yard and get $800 out of it in 8 years by driving it in the winter.
>>534149147>original PriusesShut the fuck up about priuses
>>534144326as much as I hate commuter faggots>he doesn't know about the energy crisis>he doesn't know that 5 dollars of gasoline costs 25 more A GALLON in gasoline to burn it far away and push it to your vehicle>he doesn't know every battery ends up in a lake
>>534150683Don't forget adjusted for inflation gas is still very much cheap. I just paid 3.79 a gallon. Yeah it's technically a dollar over what it should be because brent is high from the Iran war but still an extra 19 dollars a fillup won't break the bank. Gas would only become a problem if it hit 10 dollars a gallon. If people were paying upwards of 200 dollars to fill their tanks up then the economy would literally break down.
>>534144326>brown OP and his faggy car:https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/viral/toyota-hybrid-ev-battery-catches-fire-on-roadside/vi-AA1R85UL
>>534144413because they are not from this site and it outs them for being a tourist nigger
>i can only enjoy my things if i tell myself it makes DRUMPF! voters madOP is a faggot.
>>534144326All the engine does is charge the battery. Sad!
>>534147615It's not though, the only thing that compelled the thread to be made was that the faggot known as OP believes the things he's saying and doing are making other people upset somehow. You agreeing with OP also outs you as an antisocial narcissist and/or sociopath.
>>534144326>YOU VILL DRIVE ZE POD AND YOU VILL BE HAPPY
>>534151000As soon as the oil price unwinds everything, not just gas, is going to get more expensive. Remember when oil peaked in 2022? It peaked in the summer, and that was just a trade redirection from Europe to India from Russia.The Iran was is 20% of the oil just gone. Not just redirected. And refineries and pipelines destroyed in the middle east.Our economy was only hanging on by a thread with cheap oil. Even if gas gets to half of that in the majority of the country, diesel is fucked, transport is fucked, production is fucked, fertilizers are fucked.
>>534149010>calm down savage beast, i won't hurt yo-ACK!
>>534144326toyota and their shilling can fuck off
>>534151061That's a really scary fire for a hybrid car. It just keeps burning and burning. >>534151388America is a net energy producer so the USA will be fine. The government might have to step in to subsidize gas but the USA won't run out of oil. Americans will always have oil, food, water. The USA is the best place to be on earth while everyone else would be fighting over land and resources.
>>534151606>America is a net energy producer so the USA will be fine.No one said anyone was going to run out of oil, you fucking retard.If you have to talk about subsidizing and then nationalizing oil to prevent it being sold elsewhere because of simple supply and demand, to prevent massive inflationary pressure from that loss of supply elsewhere, less than a year into your kike war, and to prevent your economic collapse from $6/gallon gas and $150/barrel oil, you have simply lost your kike war.
>>534151874Don't be so alarmed. America will win this war even if we have purchase war bonds again. The American people will win.
>>534151061that's not even a toyota camry >msn click bait link with video from some third world shit holeneck yourself you normies retard
>>534147963KekCyberrustWhat a fag
>>534144326I really like the hybrid f150, it's not a plug in whatchamacallit but it helps selling the idea to my wife... –She hates pickup trucks–
>>534147963Iirc there's manual hybrids being sold in Japan?
>>534144491cope, EVChuds won ICEssie
>>534144326>Buying toyota slop
>>53414906440mpg is really badModern pre-cucking diesels used to get 50-55mpgMine gets 60mpg combined but it's on its last legs
>>534144612Problem with batteries is that only China is willing to destroy their environment and make their population slaves in the name of cheap batteries. Hybrids are a reasonable compromise for civilized nations.
>>534153667j vin, made in aichi,japan > some illiterate nigger built gm/ford
>>534154039Deluded weebcel
>>534153761euro/UK mpg measurements are not the same as US mpg just fyi. multiply .83 x european mpg conversion and you get US mpg. 60 mpg UK = 50 mpg US. eu uses liter per 100km so there is another conversion in there.
>>534154346I was converting to US mpg.You can just bing "kml to mpg" and there's tons of widgets for it
>>534154120>mexican and chinese parts put together by nogs lmao
>>534145370Trucks nuts are hilarious.
>>534153761disel is more expensive in the US regardless, it's 6-7 a gallon which is probably cheaper to you. plus the US government hates diesel cars especially after that VW fiasco.
>>534153761>>534154562The US government hates diesel because of emissions. It's why they bar import of fuel efficient diesels into the US. 50 MPG is like a dream. Petrol engines get around 20. Diesel gets around 50(without emissions standards). So gasoline is around 4.75 a gallon and diesel is around 6 dollars. It's no contest. If i had a 50 MPG diesel i would drive it over a 20 MPG car.
>>534147194You could but the rest of the economy would collapse.
>>534147382Depends on the usage case. Lets just say you go from a 25mpg vehicle to one that gets 4 miles to the kwh and you drive 15,000 miles. Kwh is 15 cents here (less in winter) and gasoline is $4/gallon. So ev wil cost $562.5 vs gasoline costing $2400. Not nothing. Might not be a big deal to many but to cheap asses it might add up. Plus how long does gasoline stay at $4..after a few years the savings really explode. I don't give shit what anyone drives.
>>534155077The problem with hybrids and EVs is the large up front cost. You are saving around 2k a year but you spent how much 30k or 50k for the car? A beater gasser is around 5k or was even if its 10k now it's still cheaper than an electric. You also have to factor in insurance costs, maintaince fees which will all be higher on newer vehicles. I drive a 28 year old beater LMAO. My only expenses are gas and insurance and do all my repairs myself. Besides the blown head casket which was just too much for me personally. Otherwise i do all the small repairs myself and oil changes too.
>>534144326The past is laughing in 300+ miles per gallon, normal road speeds on a machine that'll set you back a couple of grand.What did your rav4 toy cost you (batteries included)
>>534146716Back then you couldn't even lift the chair up and down...It's also not as responsive as any new car made nowadays so when you press gas is very slow until you're pushed into your chair when speeding or overtaking
>>534144491You're right, I have a plug in hybrid basically, it's a hybrid electric though, so my model is simple it's just a lithium ion battery for the electric powered side and then a gasoline engine.
>>534154562>>534154937My point was that even the latest hybrids at best achieve fuel efficiencies of mediocre diesels.I know diesel was sentenced to forced obsolescence. They're not only taxing it to hell but also straight up banning older models in Europe too with the excuse of particulate emissions.
>>534155240You also have to eventually buy a new battery for the EV that will set you back around $10k or thereabouts, not everyone can pull that type of money out of their ass at any period of time and the fact of it being your mode of transport means you need to drop it immediately, like you have no choice, and unless you're rich are kind of screwed if a bunch of other unexpected expenses come around the same time.
>>534155622Hybrids and electrics cost too much. I would rather drive a beater diesel instead of a modern EV. In fact in America i was looking at older late 90s diesels and they don't get good enough MPG to justify which is why i drive a gasser. Diesel is only for one purpose in America and that's to tow shit.
>>534155685For the strict EV yes. For the hybrid you still have a Gasoline engine, so it's just kind of like whatever you know?I got a Chevy Volt off craigslist for $5K and the gasoline engine part has only 48K miles on it.
>>534144326oh dang what if I want to take all of the people in my family though (8)? darn gotta go warm up the suburban
Modern vehicles are gay as hell even Toyota is having recalls. Enjoy your touch screen hell. T. 2002 honda civic
