https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-28/nsw-erotic-fiction-author-lauren-mastrosa-sentenced/106617458Criminalizing drawings wasn't enough, now you're going to be prosecuted for writing words that are hecking underage..
>>534148227Stephen King on suicide watch.
>>534148227I've actually worried that textfiles.com could technically be targeted as illegal someday. Coming soon I guess
>>534148271Yeeeah... that man has issues with raping kids in story form
>>534148227Anything but Epstien's clients.
>>534148227>Judge Bree Chisholm said Mastrosa set out to deliberately write a novel where the "core purpose" was to fetishise young children so that it could be sold "for a commercial purpose".>"The character was fictional and, from the beginning of the book, was set out as an 18-year-old woman, but … [she] played a role-playing character that was clearly a very young child," she said.>"The scenario were words, but there were many of them. The descriptions went for chapters.Nobody tell this judge about Made In Abyss, holy shit. This woman would nuke Japan. Part of growing up is discovering our sexuality. Even Disney is guilty with kiked shit like Jafar spitting on slave-Jasmine.
>>534148478Australia has already been rather openly attempting to subvert Japan for over a decade. They are one of the Japan's biggest enemies unironically.
>>534148544DJ S3RL retired at a very convenient time!
>>534148271>erotic>horrorthe same book can cause either reaction, but not the same legal reaction. stephen king has nothing to worry about.
>>534148227Australians deserve it for not decapitating their oppressors. What a worthless fucking shithole.
>>534148715Is that how Made In Abyss bypasses censorship too? Genocyber is another that could be easily misunderstood
Shit, is it time for me to get back into writing smut? Cause I'd write some loli smut for Aussies to read.
>>534148846They're trying to take Japan down with them, so you can't just ignore them and hope it goes away. Hopefully China invades australia soon.
>>534148478This judge sounds only semi-literate. She also says she was helped in he legal reasoning by lawyers for the state which seems like a massive conflict of interest. I hope the defendant appeals.
Now do fags/homos/troons.
>>534149056Western pedo-puritanical values dictate that only real children are allowed to be sexualized.
>>534148715>horror>"We all need to fuck to become closer and escape the maze"The orgy is played in a positive light and a good thing to overcome the evil monster.
>>534149056The difference with this shit is that it's WRITTEN FOR KIDS. Literally evil. Meanwhile, complex stories intended for adults force you to evaluate ethics and the value of life.
>>534148544We're invading via the ski slopes, the 7/11 chicken sandwiches will be ours.
>>534149022Judge isn't an impartial observe under the Australian(Or British) judicial system, they're an active part and decide what are the facts of the case before the trial even begins, it's up to each side to give their interpretation of the facts the judge has laid out rather than to argue their own version of events, judges will frequently intervene and side with one side or the other when they're making arguments
>>534149215impartial observers*
>>534148227HOLY HECKIN' BASERINO
>>534148227>Don't draw kids fucking>Don't write fan fic about kids fucking>Stop trying to fuck kidsIs anybody surprised that a burger kike would find this problematic kek
>>534148271No because when Stephen King writes it, it is magically considered a fine art and then gets a movie made about it 5 years later.
>>534148478>18-year-old woman, but …>[she] played a role-playing character that was clearly a very young childHoly shit the books not even about children?if you write text.. about a fictional adult who does fiction role play within this already fiction written framework you're getting prosecuted.
>>534149269See >>534148478It's not even about a child, just a woman who role plays as being underage
BABY FUCK!BABY FUCK!IT'S AWWWWWRIGHT!
>>534148369T H I S
>>534149291Saving Private Ryan was originally rated X for violence and Gunn's Scooby-Doo was rated R. Big names get big exceptions. Fully convinced that Equilibrium is rated R only because a dog gets shot and it promotes stopping your meds.
>>534149210I've seen what your evil ambassador has said.
Crazy how they do stuff like this when all the elites are literal pedophiles
>>534148227>Write novel about two consenting adults roleplaying>Get charged with producing csam because you gave a foid judge the ick
>>534149292>An author whose novel described two adults engaging in child role play Yeah I was just about to post this to highlight it for everyone ITT.This novel isn't about children but rather adults who are pretending to be children.It's kinda metafiction. Maybe by writing about a real woman who wrote about a fictional woman pretending to be a kid we're all violating the law as we type these replies.
>>534149468Not that crazy. They do it on purpose to deflect because since they are pedophiles who rape and eat children they obviously can't use the government to stop abuse against 3DPD children, so they use the government to defend the virtue of fictional depictions resembling children to appease the population to believe the government is definitely not made up of evil pedophiles that rape and eat real children.
>>534149468>WRITING TRUE ARTICLE ABOUT EPSTEIN IS CSAM! >NAKED PHOTO OF ME HARM CHILDREN!>EVERYTHING I DONT LIKE IS ILLEGAL!
>>534149429>your government Yeah mate my jewish controlled government is worse than your jewish controlled government. Dumb cunt seppo mutt.
>>534148227Wait a minute I just remembered something. We literally had to read a book in my high-school English that had a "sex scene" between 14 year olds.is that "child abuse" material now? it was read out in our school curriculum.
>>534149337The book was called daddy's little toy and the book explicitly talks about the father's friend wanting to fuck the kid since she was three. It's a pedophile rape fantasy that tried to side step the law with a throw away line about her being 18 years and 0.1 seconds old.It's the same as a tranny having a massive melt down when being denied entry into a little girls bathroom. It's not *technically* illegal but you just know that fucking weirdo is up to some weird shit.
>author of Harry Potter smut fictionShit see you boys in hell I guess
>>534148227And I consider jews as lampshades and bars of soap.
A written word of WHAT?
>>534148227post books we have to burn i startLolita
>>534149773The Terror
I have an idea. A funny form of protest would be for everyone to violate the law, like so:>This is a story about a perverted woman. When this woman turned 18 years old, she celebrated by fucking her boyfriend. But right before she started sucking him off, she decided to roleplay by saying this to him: "By the way, I'm 9 years old."Now in theory those few sentences I wrote constitute CSAM in Australia. It would be really funny if everyone in Australia wrote something like this. The cops (if they're halfway sensible) would never even try to arrest someone for this, making a mockery of the law.
>>534148369That's illegal now.
Anyway it's just about money, Crunchyroll is perfectly legal in aus but has tons of loli
>>534149822But that's not what happened here. Your throw away line is about being underage. This book is basically the first line being "she was 18 years and 0.1 seconds old" and then the entire rest of the book is basically "stick your 50 year old dick in my tiny 9 year old pussy" and "he wanted to fuck this fleshlight since she was just 3 years old. So hot"
>>534149646you know what. I still don't care.there are endless court documents that detail actual child rape. that is so much worse.I don't understand how someone could get off to text but wouldn't child abusers just read that?or more likely, instead of practicing literacy, they'll just actually abuse children which is what child abuse law was designed to stop.art and now text is so far removed from that it's clown world shit.this is how they start arresting you for social media posts or maybe you write a book about deporting illegals and get arrested for hate speech.there is nothing you can write or draw that can harm someone and anyone saying otherwise is opening the floodgates.
>>534148227>Doesn't understand AustraliaDear American, when you meet an Australian they are smiling because hell is other Australians. Everything here is either mandatory or illegal.
>>534150002Tell me more.
>>534148227Any country where the guys all want to "mate" with their male friends is fucking gay, and that goes double for Australians and ....."Kiwis".
>>534149857So illegal that we don't know if investigations are still taking place. Its like shrodingers jail except, at any time we don't know if the guards nor the prisoners are out there walking free, in a jail cell, or providing "security" lol should be called epstein's gulag
>>534149822We can make it even more absurd if we want:>It was a dark and stormy night when the lonely old maid started fingering herself to sleep. In her fantasy her handsome 43 year old neighbor was indulging her naughty thoughts by pretending to be a 15 year old virgin boy she was deflowering. We know it's illegal to write about adults pretending to be children, so how about adults pretending that adults are pretending to be children?
>>534150019That's fine you can get into the wood chipper too.Anybody who justifies this shit with "it's technically legal" knows exactly what they're doing. Pedophiles side stepping the intent of the law.Your whataboutism is retarded. If whataboutism excused you from breaking the law we wouldn't have laws. Yes it's shit that pedophiles are still out there, yes it's shit that they arent prosecuted, no you shouldn't let pedophiles walk just because of that fact. This creeping tolerance of pedophiles is exactly why so many think they can get away with it.
>>534150163Damn, forgot pic
>>534148227Sounds like she had a dogshit legal team and this is an easy appeal. She should expect a settlement from the court desu.
>>534150002How is what I wrote in principle any different than what the author in the story wrote?
>>534150002and yet after having read that I remain alive and I have sustained no injury. I feel like something like this should just not be sold by any publisher. books that glorify rape and other illegal things are a similar case.no court should be involved in fictional text tho. it's a social policing thing.>>534150065shut up.
>>534150163Careful. Recursive thoughts get complex for anything with less than a 90 IQ.
>>534148715they ran a train on that girl
>>534150169>This creeping tolerance of pedophiles is exactly why so many think they can get away with it.We've been calling for executions of actual pedophiles for awhile. That still doesn't excuse deeming certain lines on paper being illegal.
>>534150276> I don't see the nuance in making the vast majority of the book a first person pedophilic rape fantasy when compared to a throw away line about age in a book primarily about an adult>>534150297The law is never a bastion of morality, only a last resort. Morality failed to prevent this pedophile from publishing her child rape fantasy, so the law stepped in
>>534148227We've already had this same law in Canada for a long time. I'm surprised it wasn't already a thing in Australia a long time ago
>>534150169fine then make up your own 'moralism and obscene art' laws and prosecute under that.this does not fall under child abuse. for that there needs to be a child getting abused.
>>534148227Based Australia. Ban that degen shit. Ban anime as well. Any grown man that watches anime should be put on the sex offender registry.
>>534148227Utterly corrosive to free speech.
>>534150391And yet when presented with a pedophile that tries to justify publishing their pedophile fantasies you justify it on the grounds of a throw away line about her technically being of age.Why is your tolerance of pedophiles so flimsy that you'll excuse one the second they come up with an excuse for why they had to do it?>>534150461So don't write thousand page first person child rape fanfics and you won't have to worry about getting slapped with a CASM charge
>>534150461Everyone with a brain knows its just censorship. The guys with good intentions think it will fix their society but it only speeds up their destruction. Makes it easier for the epstein class to take control so you wouldn't be the wiser the next time they do massive diddling. Like this age verification thing coming up, it will be easier for them to know where your kid is at all times and when you leave them alone, or take the data to impersonate them with AI so that you don't know for a few hours that they are gone.
>>534150586not this issue.>a white girl writes a few words in her home>a pack of niggers go out and horribly rape a childconflating these two things under the same law is an insult to all human decency.
>>534150423Forget about nuance, just try to explain how it's different in principle.In the meantime here's another one to chew on:>"I'm just turning fee year old," announced Meredith. Her husband rolled his eyes at his menopausal wife acting like a toddler, but he tolerated it because it wasn't hurting anyone. "Wet me suck your cock," she continued, and then proceded to pleasure him down under, in a most un-Australian way.
>>534148227Can be ban the Talmud?
>>534148227Good. She should get the death penalty and we should raid houses until we have all copies of her books and they should be burnt in the town square
>>534148227>"The character was fictional and, from the beginning of the book, was set out as an 18-year-old woman, but … [she] played a role-playing character that was clearly a very young child," she said.This is fucking insane. How can this possibly be illegal? LOL. "The commonwealth" is a fucking joke.
Nobody tell Australia that Ellie finds a gay porn magazine and reads it in TLOU (PS3). That's like a double infraction! A virtual child is being exposed to virtual pornography!
>>534149269you're a fucking retard and should kill yoruself
>>534149628Death to america, in no uncertain terms.
>>534150163>The gaggle of Australian judges could barely contain their rage as they read a lurid short story of a woman imagining herself making love to a man pretending to be a boy.This is a fun exercise. We're now like 3 or 4 narrative levels deep, but I think in principle this is equivalent to distributing real child pornography. Wouldn't anyone?
>>534149646it's not real, and it's not even about children having sex, kill yourself, you have no freedom of speech
>>534150696> Normalising child sex fantasies isn't a problemYou're still using whataboutism to try and excuse a pedophile on the grounds that other pedophiles have more serious offending, with absolutely no regard for how the law actually works. Just because the charge has the same name doesn't mean the seriousness of the charge is equal.Most states have "assaulting or interfering with an officer in the commission of their duties" as a specific charge of which the consequences can range from a warning through to prison time. You don't understand the law and you're applying a value assessment over the top of your ignorance.>>534150715>Forget about nuanceSums up the whole argument doesn't it. Sure, in principal it's technically legal because the book declared at some point she is an adult. But that's not how law work, law has always been about intent and the intent of the law is that you cannot publish your child fucking fantasies
>>534149291And the average fat gothic liberal women would defend him tooth and nail
>>534150957>American>Jewish>Supportive of pedophile fantasiesNobody is surprised the kike is ok with this
>>534150169>That's fine you can get into the wood chipper too.nah, the anon you are are replying to has a brain, you deserve to be throw into the wood chipper for willingly throwing your rights into a garbage can, traitors go first of course
This is disingenuous bullshit. I've been on forums where people have tried to discuss what happened to them as kids. Some forum moderator comes along, reads it, gets scared, deletes it for talking about pedo. Now you can't even talk about the crimes perped against you, child porn, illegal. And this is exactly what the Epstein elites want. Nobody can ever say what happened to them, and they pitch this shit as protecting children.
>>534148227The US does this too. You have to be careful when insulting someone in the US because if it includes anything dexual (ie you called some woman a slut) you could be charged with making “revenge porn” of her o algo
>>534151036Nice to hear that you think what the other author wrote is legal, but that's not what I was asking about.Explain how what she and what I wrote are different in principle. I've written a few erotic stories ITT and I think if she's going to be arrested for what she wrote then I'm in the same boat.
>>534151023>Meanwhile in American you get federal charges for arranging seashells in the shape of numbersKek. Nice try pedo.
>>534150169>Yes it's shit that pedophiles are still out thereI also like how you admit adults who do "age play" aren't pedophiles, your cognitive dissonance is off the charts, as is often the case with people who think the freedom of speech is bad
>>534151163There’s no free speech anymore. They “discovered new interpretations” until it was interpreted down to nothing
>>534151163misery loves company
>>534151085it's normal seuxal roleplay, if you had ever had sex with a woman, you would realize this, no not every woman that calls a man "daddy" belongs in prison, you fucking unironic incel nutcase
>>534151222Technically legal and legal are not the same thing you fucking retard. The intent of the law is not the same as the absolute interpretation.Unless you can point to which law explicitly says you can't arrange seashells in the shape of numbers all burger kikes who think they have free speech are larping retards. Probably Jews who just want to justify their child sex fantasies
angloids treating concept of a child like some sort of Jesus figure.
>>534148227Should have converted to compoundinterestism and changed her name to Mastrowitz
>>534151379>It's normal to goo goo Ga Ga for a thousand pages of first person child sex larpingK
>>534151036>excuse a pedophileBased on what you told me. it sounds like she wants to be the child.I'm not even convinced she's dangerous and wants to fuck children. just that she has some sort of trauma complex.hers is an extreme case but I can't help but envision a future as such:>It's the year 2250>you're making love to your GF age 20>she says 'oh yeah spank me daddy'>your government mandated smart TV records and sends this remotely>several police bust down the door and arrest her for child abuse
>>534151379It was gays who started the daddy thing just to identify top and bottom heiarchy is all. Gravity is a thing
>>534148227Dead dove: do not eat.
>>534151440>she cums wildly as men all touch her body to arrest her
>>534151241>I'm a bleeding heart libtard who is supporting Comey threatenign Trumpyeah, this is you projecting, 100 percent your siblings children could send you to jail for 100 years if they told anyone what you di, only traitors don't understand the value of freedoms like speech and want to make "mind crimes," even just fucking roleplay with adults
>>534151440>She wants to be the childCorrect. She took her child sex fantasies and turned them into a book to share her child sex fantasies with other degenerates, and pedophiles and now she gets to live the adult sex fantasy of being raped by the long dick of the law.
>>534148478>go out of your way to specify your character is an adult pretending to be a child>australian government still tries to imprison you over itonly in fucking australia. or maybe the united kingdom. the world's most raped white people.
>>534148227>One day a woman was walking down the street and a man started raping her>I’m just three years old sir she said despite being 45 years oldAm I going to jail now
>>534151522> Ad hom will surely defeat the counterargument to my whataboutismKek. Didn't bother reading the rest. Don't pretend you have free speech kike and don't write fantasy novels about fucking children
>>534151386You still haven't explained it. I want to hear your explanation as to why an Australian judge wouldn't treat me the same as the other author for what I wrote. >Anon seethed. His shilling for censorship was perfect, so why did nobody respect him? Having to read their mocking stories caused his own mind to drift and he found himself picturing himself at age 10, being fondled inappropriately by his grade school teacher. Anon nearly busted a nut in his pants at the silly fantasy, but then rededicated himself to his important work.
>>534151603What about Quran, mister Iraqi.
>>534151546Yes. And the niggers actually raping children can be safely ignored
>>534151458women are freaks in bed, jesus christ, they didn't need gays to get them interested in this idea, this is bascially Australian illegalizing something that happens in like a third of bedrooms among consenting adults, Australia/UK/and Canada never went through the fucking enlightenment and can't conceptualize that illegalizing the imagination is fucking stupid, fucking inbred retards want to make Minority Report real
>>534151603Yeah, I have free speech, and you don't, go suck your king's cock, you pathetic plebeian
How did late-stage Rome view pedophiles
>>534148846Yes, that's right. Here's a picture of us being oppressed like the total cucks that we are and not doing anything to fight back or decapitate our oppressors.
>>534151541Why wouldn't she just write about a child then? You're avoiding that part. She wrote about an adult, not a child.
>>534151650I already explained it, you just don't understand. The book is materially different in that it contains a miniscule throw away line about being barely legal, and then proceeds to dive into a hebephilia and pedophilia fantasy. It's different in principal because the substance of the pedophilic behaviour in what you wrote was a throw away line, when this book was in substance a pedophile fantasy with "but she was 18 and 0.1 seconds old" tacked onto it.The intent of the law supercedes an autistic reading of it. That's just how the law works, and so it should because this cunt is clearly a pedophile
>>534148227>criminalizing underage wordsThis specific case is even fucking worse haha>An author whose novel described two adults engaging in child role play has avoided jail after a judge ruled some passages amounted to child sex abuse material.So it's not even a novel describing child sex; it's a novel describing adults roleplaying child sex. They found her guilty of writing a hypothetical scenario of two adults roleplaying a hypothetical scenario of something that would be illegal if it happened for real.Some parts of western civilization truly are speedrunning tyranny.
>>534150586>>534151036You just sound retarded and shouldnt be anywhere near laws or the court system. You’re just testing the waters and probing for weakness in the constitution, starting with “protecting the children” as the exact same excuseEverybody sees it.Nobody is protecting pedophile.You refused to prosecute epstein’s clients or investigate israel.
The more I read this thread the more I'm convinced that Australians do not deserve to have the internet. Actually they probably don't deserve electricity and engines either. They need to figure out how to function as a society first.
>>534151653Fuck the Koran that's pedophile shit too and anybody who publishes it should be deported to make Australia a better place. The Talmud too.
>>534151781>I have free speech>Get federal charges for arranging sea shells into the shape of numbersKek. If you say so kike
>>534151650I'm sh-shaking... it's t-too real... I'm gonna th-throw up...
>>534151828>Why wouldn't she just write about a child then? You're avoiding that part. She wrote about an adult, not a child.Because this just the state power tripping so some miseable judge can get off on destroying people over non-crimes. People really under-estimate how much people in power are just blood-thirsty masochists.
>>534151904See you in jail bud.
>>534148227Most Anglo nations are deeply ill and must largely be destroyed. The worst cultural cancer in history.
>>534151868>I already explained it, you just don't understand. The book is materially different in that it contains a miniscule throw away line about being barely legal, and then proceeds to dive into a hebephilia and pedophilia fantasy.Oh shut the fuck up you nigger, you're acting like you actually read the book. if you did, I'm going to call the cops and tell them to arrest your for reading it.
>>534151895>You’re just testing the waters and probing for weakness>Nou!Testing the waters and probing for weakness is exactly what a pedophile who writes a child fucking fantasy novel is doing when they also "but she was also 18 years and 0.1 seconds old" onto it. Nice try kike.
>>534151653Good point the Quran directly violates several incitement to violence laws.'Follow the example of Mohamed' is advocating for murder and child rape. but no assets have been seized, these books continue to be published, read out and taught, it's proponents continue to be imported even in the face of the murder and rape it brings upon Australians.>>534151868>throw away line about being barely legal18 years is way over the age of consent. at least 2 whole years.
>>534151868I don't believe that you've even read the book, so I'd appreciate if you didn't pretend as if you have. I could be a pedophile for all you know. In fact let's just assume that I am, and that the intent of all my stories was to get you off. Does that magically change their substance?
>>534151926>The FBI Director threatening the president is the same as an adutl woman calling her adult lover interest "daddy" during sex100 percent you diddled kids for real, you TDS faggots who over-correct are all like this
>>534152087Arranging seashells *threateningly* is not free speechK E KE K EK E KYou fucking retards think "murder the president in Minecraft" is actually a secret code that's going to allow them to bypass the intent of the law, but at the same time you advocate for somebody to cop federal charges for arrange fucking seashells.
>>534152074>I don't believe that you've even read the book, so I'd appreciate if you didn't pretend as if you have.He has, this is his confession, and you should report him to the Australian authorities. Also the judge should turn herself in along with the jury.
THINK OF THE POOR WORDS ON THE PAPER YOU SICK FUCKS!
Just do race play and call your wife a fat nigger like normal people
>>534151901
>>534152257We should have listened.
>>534148227lol.Schizos at it again, criminalizing completely fabricated content with zero connection to reality. While the same schizos will put you in prison for suggesting that maybe two homosexuals shouldn't be able to adopt children to rape. Pure clown world.
>>534148227>>534148478>>534148544>>534149292>>534150019>>534150163Why did Femcels push the age gap psyop?
>>534152185Can we charge the judge for reading content harmful to minors
>>534150002>fictionJust nanny state bullshit as per usual go catch some actual criminals ya drongo cunts
>>534149503No one tell Australia about many worlds theory, or they'll be imprisoning people for what their theoretical dopplegangers in other realities may or may not have done.
>>534151901They are really speed-running the chink invasions and devolving into Mad Max.
Didnt Australia ban porn of women will small breasts because they thought that anything smaller than b cup was pedophilic?
>>534152320>Can we charge the judge for reading content harmful to minorsYes, because according to Australian law hearing words about adults LARPIng is the same as raping children.
>>534148478>"The scenario were words, but there were many of them’Yeah, it was just some words but, like, a lot of them, okay?!
>The literal rape and cannibalism of children and babiesI sleep.>Fictional characters role-playing as a kid with consent.FLAY THEM ALIVE
>>534152380Why stop there? Everyone has a doppleganger. If your double commits a crime it's better safe than sorry to lock up you as well.
>>534152297Because they think daddy government should get them arranged marriages like the good old days
>>534152411>Didnt Australia ban porn of women will small breasts because they thought that anything smaller than b cup was pedophilic?They tried too, but I don't think it was implemented because the idea is fucking retarded and misogynist.
>>534152465Kek
>>534152417Brevity of illegal content is now legal! Just a little child abuse is okay as long as it's quick!
>>534148478>"The character was fictional and, from the beginning of the book, was set out as an 18-year-old woman, but … [she] played a role-playing character that was clearly a very young child," she said.Are there levels of fiction where it could be acceptable? Like, a fictional 18 year old, pretending to be a 30 year old who’s pretending to be a 40 year old, is larking as a kid? Like a literary equivalent of ‘good luck, i’m behind seven proxies?’
>>534152466No wonder they hate Japan FUCKING KEK
>>534152004Testing the waters for weakness in our Constitution is far more evil and anti-American than testing the waters for writing mean wordsThe anglosphere has to be invaded and liberated by Trump.
honestly i say just lean into it. start getting everything banned to the point of absurdity lmao. the bible, the koran, everythings up for grabs
>>534152549>me using AI to bypass copyright restrictions
>>534152549That's what I've been analyzing here:>>534150163>>534151005In principle it seems no different to me.
>>534152549This would make Chris Hanson impossible because they roleplay that the decoy is underaged. That's the goal is to prevent to catch a predator type people from stopping predators. >You were pretending to be a 14-year-old exchanging sexual messages so you broke the law It all makes sense now
>>534152588>Liberated by Trump>Federal charges for arranging seashells
>>534152587In Rome, it was totally normal for rich guys to fuck slave boys. It follows that Europe would keep this going
>Shakespeare is now illegal in AustraliaLolLmao evenRofl possibly.
>>534152588I shook things up over at /tg/ share thread to beef up their resilience. It worked. We shouldn't be afraid of challenges, it makes us more Nietzschien
>>534152701Oh shid. Somebody get old boomerang face on the line
>>534148227>won't someone think of the fictional children?>governments outlaw and prosecute fiction and fantasy>meanwhile in reality, Epstein Island I fucking hate everything about modern western society, but especially the cunts who make and enforce these ridiculous laws on speech and expression that hurts noting but snowflakes' precious feefees while real people actually suffer. Freedom of speech should be absolute. Fuck censorship and fuck the cunts who argue for and enforce it up the arse with a rusty length of rebar.
>>534152549Y'know what I don't get..If you can be prosecuted for "Child Abuse" for writing about a fictional adult role-playing as a fictional child in fictional scenario.Doesn't it stand to reason you could be prosecuted for "Murder" for writing about a fictional murder?Like there are so many first person murder stories that don't even have "proxi layers"It makes no sense.
>>534148227Why are anglos so sexually dysfunctional? Is it the chemicals in the water? The high tism? Any other country would laugh all this shit out the courtroom and suggest therapy for the proposers.Must be the kikes having you in a legal and social grip worse than mid purges soviet russia.
>>534149468It's amusing too because they are almost never targeting actual pedos. It's targeting completely harmless shit like art or writing or skewering some dude in the media for fucking a 16 year old (which BTW is legal) meanwhile actual degenerates fucks who rape, kill and cannibalize prepubescent kids are ignored.
>>534149215Fair enough. I still think she sounds semi-literate though and I find the legal reasoning specious. The subject matter of the book sounds gross to me, the idea turns me off the same way bestiality or a lot of other fetishes to, but I don't think writers and publishers should require permission from government.
>>534148294asstr degens on suicide watch.
>>534153172Generally the defense of these bans is that fictional child abuse will lead to real child abuse.As to why this might be the case with just this crime and not other crimes like murder, I don't think I've ever heard a reason for that.
>>534149637it’s ok if it’s to brain-wash you goy (lolita, catcher in the rye sister rape, etc)
>>534153800>>534153172>As to why this might be the case with just this crimeThis just made me realize something even crazier. It's not even a crime in this case.She can fuck her husband and pretend to be a child while doing it all she wants. She just can't write about it.
>>534153836>you goyそちらこそ、米軍のラミーレズ君
>>534151868>I already explained it, you just don't understand. The book is materially different in that it contains a miniscule throw away line about being barely legal, and then proceeds to dive into a hebephilia and pedophilia fantasy.Let's forget about the 'adult LARPing as minor' aspect for a minute. Suppose I wanted to write some deep personal confessional novel about my youth and talk about my formative sexual experiences, I was horny as hell from the age of 13 and thought a lot about sex even before that because I could pick up that everyone was into it before I even knew exactly what it involved. This isn't the result of pornography infiltrating culture btw, I grew up in a hyperconservative rural country where porn wasn't available for sale and the only way you could see a magazine was if someone snuck one in from abroad.Anyway according to this judge writing about my youth and my underage thoughts and feelings about sex is the same as child porn. After all, it's conceivable that someone else would get off on reading about it, so the act of writing about it is 'fetishizing it' so you're basically forbidding people from documenting their own sexual experiences..
>>534153933Maybe real roleplay such as you describe actually is illegal, but not prosecutable as there'd be no evidence. Because if you produce evidence by writing about it or filming it then it becomes a crime.
They will never prosecute women for bestiality for buying horse dildoes
>>534153174W-what kind of stimuli did they use, bros?
In conclusion amerikikes claim they have free speech while arresting people for arranging seashells into numbers, while also defending a POV hebephilia book written by a foid with pedophilic rape fantasies.Tkd cannot com soon enough
>>534151653What about it, retard? You got any offensive material to show us?
>>534156514>POV : i hate freedom of speech
>>534148227Does that mean of a kid tries to seduce an adult in Australia they child will go to jail?
>>534156928POV: hebephilia fantasy is "free speech" but arranging seashells is threatening somebody's lifeKek.
>>534157252>t. cuck for a government that imports millions of niggers every year
>>534148227I warned them hoesNow they will listen, soon all fiction that isn't approved of by your government will be a federal offence
Why do people keep constantly bringing up seashells...>ctrl+f "seashells">7 results across 3 different IDs>all Australian flagsDid the Aussie gov unleash their shitpost squadron? Is this the talking point you were given? You might actually be worse than jeets at making this look organic.
>>534157770Wtf is australia mad about?Something about seashells?Who tf got arrested for seashells and why does only australia seem to know about it?
>>534157252Amazingly most people would be against both legal actions
>>534157813James Comey, the former head of the FBI, got arrested for an old instagram post of some seashells on a beach, arranged to spell out '8647'. 86 traditionally means to cancel something from a menu or throw someone out of a restaurant but Trump/ MAGA somehow got it into their head that it's a mob term for assassinating someone. They put out 8646 shirts about Biden but insistent that that is OK but not people making the same jok about Trump. For reasons.
>>534149215Mate you do realise that pornography is already left down to the states to regulate individually because on a federal level pornography is still illegal.That's the reason why you could only but m15 picture/people without going into a sex shop until 2005.
>>534149646When I went to school I was given " are you there god it's me Margaret" and told sex makes babies and not wearing condoms will give you poxxies..
>>534148478>even disneyAnon...
>>534157498But anon America is statistically even more brown than Australia. Memeflag brown lies won't change that>>534157770Because the same migger faggots defending a hebephile fantasy book as "free speech" are supportive of federal charges against people for arranging seashells in a threatening manner kek
>>534157916Thats how Trump got back at Comie?The free speech president got him arrested on Seashell hate speech? This timeline is stupid
>>534158064>hebephilia and seashells>seashells and hebephiliaKeep it up m8, you're only making your bot nature more hilariously obvious.
>>534148294>>534153776What is this?
>>534158100It's real. The free speech president really did thishttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/james-comey-indicted-seashell-photo-officials-said-threatened-trump-rcna247022
>>534148227>now you're going to be prosecuted for writing words that are hecking underage..how underage? if you're complaining about not being allowed to fuck 10 year olds you should be drawn and quartered, just fyi
>>534148478wait wait wait hold upthe "child" was 18 all along?
>>534158205>>534158242The book is a pedo rape fantasy, with a throw away line that is basically "she was 18 and 1 second old". It actively seeks to try and circumvent the intent of the law by adding the author equivalent of "in Minecraft". That was their entire defense, which of course any reasonable adult would see through immediately if the pedo in question was male or a tranny.NSW Director of Public Prosecution, Milijana Masanovich, told the court the book was written over months, and the graphic descriptions could "normalise sexual conduct against minors"."While the book is a fictional one, the visual the book created in the reader's mind was in fact a three-year-old child engaging in a sexual activity," she said.
>>534158368Also it's not simply a bit of age play. This degenerate slut wrote chapters and chapters of explicit POV toddler fucking and then tried to justify it with in Minecraft.Judge Bree Chisholm said Mastrosa set out to deliberately write a novel where the "core purpose" was to fetishise young children so that it could be sold "for a commercial purpose"."The character was fictional and, from the beginning of the book, was set out as an 18-year-old woman, but … [she] played a role-playing character that was clearly a very young child," she said."The nature was explicit and graphic."The scenario were words, but there were many of them. The descriptions went for chapters."It was very sexual, and the child was very young."
>>534150423How is she the pedophile when you say she wrote a first person novel about how she wants her father to ravish her under age vagina but not actually because she's 18 and just pretending.Sounds like she's the opposite of a pedophile.
>>534158544See:>>534158368>>534158534
>>534148478>"The character was fictional and, from the beginning of the book, was set out as an 18-year-old woman, butholy FUCK I'm glad I'm not australian, absolute dystopian shithole.
Aussie bot going all out with his reddit spaced copypasta. Notice he's still not saying WHY fiction should be illegal though. Or why this this is any different to fiction that depicts murder.
>>534158534No one should be jailed for writing anything
All pornography is technically illegal at the federal level in Australia thanks to "Classification (Publications, Films and Computer Games) Act 1995".If a state law contravenes a federal law the federal law takes precedence meaning if they were so inclined they could persecute everyone who accesses porn.
>>534157770Australia is a prison country made up of actual criminals, vagrants, drunks and other riff raff. These types are obsessed with LARPing as saviors of the children against muh heckin pedos as a coping mechanism to make themselves feel better about their drunken thieving nigger behavior. Their mentality is literally “it’s okay if I commit every other crime you can think of because I COULD be out there raping 8 years olds but I’m not, so I can’t be that bad.”
>>534158673>Notice he won't say whyThat's where the difference of opinion exists in reality. I think it should be illegal to write and profit from pedo rape fantasy. The law agrees. >>534158732>Australia consistently ranks higher than burgermutts on personal freedom and political freedom indexes >Burgermutts arrest people for arranging seashells>Not my hecking pedo fantasy books!>You're oppressing me!I bet you're circumcised too you fucking kike
>>534158562Yeah I'm not reading your bullshit posts a second time there, faggot. I've already decided that you're some secretary for the judge who's been dispatched to defend her autistic attempt to prosecute this from meanies on the internet calling her a stupid inbred autistic seething cunt, if not the judge herself running anonymous damage control. If my assumption is correct, you'd probably have turned out less miserable if daddy dicked you down like you clearly wish he did.
>>534158534Oh no, not the arrangement of words on a page! Are the letters OK?
>>534158965>>Australia consistently ranks higher than burgermutts on personal freedom and political freedom indexesweren't you dragged to open air concentration camps during the great coof against your will lmao.
>>534158965>I think it should be illegal to writeKill yourself immediately
>>534159020>Memeflag>Wall of text Defending pedo rape fantasyJust say you're brown and be done with it
>>534148227They're going to have to ban a lot of history, a fair number of normal books, and a few religious texts.
>>534148369australia isn't responsible for releasing the files, tranny
>>534151817That image is not altered at all
>>534159063>wall of textLike the two retarded posts of yours you tried linking me to?Funny how this is the shortest post you've made in this whole thread after being called out for either working in the judges office or being the judge herself and immediately deflected to "ur jus brown" to attempt to undermine the accusationTransparent as fuck.
>>534159028>Needs a licence to watch TV>Not my hecking pedo rape fantasy!K>>534159055>Memeflag>Fox news talking pointsKek.>>534159060Ah now I see why you have trouble understanding. So long as the sentence you're after appears anywhere in the text you accept it as the whole story. That's one hell of a disability, I'm sorry to hear that>>534159144>Memeflag>Defending pedo fantasy novelWell it's not quite what I was after but this is basically "I'm brown" so it will have to suffice
>>534158174Written erotic fiction. asstr was the biggest newsgroup way back when, see also nifty.
>>534148478>>534148544Australia is speedrunning authoritarian shithole. It’s vile.
>>534148227New world order thought crimes.I wonder if it is a crime to reflect, to think about why, I as a 10 year old, I was the only one that seemed to missed out on hours of sex with a pretty petite female elementary school teacher.
>>534149056Pedophiles hate sex education because introducing the concept of consent makes children much more difficult to rape.Every time you hear someone calling any form of sex education “groomers”, remember that this is literally a child rapist that is upset that educators are making kids harder to rape.
Serious question: don't judges like this quite literally look at CSAM? Like, LITERALLY LOOK at actual, real CSAM? So who the fuck is she to, uh, judge?Yes, we should all do what we can to make the world as decent and non-degenerate as possible. We shouldn't be a bunch of filthy hypocrites while we do it.
>>534159196>implying picrel was fox news talking pointsYeah the only people talking about the involuntary quarantine internment camp called Howard Springs outside of Darwin was Fox News. It never happened! Total American neocon propaganda!!>UR STILL JUST BROWN I'M DEFINITELY NOT BEING PAID TO WRITE THESE POSTSLMAO
>>534159196>So long as the sentence you're after appears anywhere in the textKinda like you when you snipped out and didn't bother to address the part of my post about how this is any different to fiction depicting murder, you mean? His point was obviously that it should not be illegal to write ANYTHING. Because fiction is not real. It has no victims. Your constant deflection with>but in America...>but in Britain...is meaningless because anons are not representatives of their countries' governments (well, maybe you are). I despise my country's censorship laws. You clearly love yours.
>>534159258>Authoritarian shithole for rebuking pedophile rape fantasy book>Not the good goys of America doe>Only 250% the per capita rate of imprisoned people in goyland
>>534148478>she was fictionality 18 but sorta kinda under 18 you sick fuck
I had mostly checked out of this thread but I was checking out what people on some other sites had to say about this and I noticed that one of the anons here resembles pretty closely one of the Redditors here:https://www.reddit.com/r/ExtremeHorrorLit/comments/1jjj9cv/author_tori_woods_arrested_in_australia_over_the/
>>534159347>Memeflag>Still defending a pedo fantasy novelBrown
SHE WAS ONLY 18 YEARS OLD FICTIONAL CHARACTER YOU SICK FUCK!!!!!!!
>>534159258It ramped up significantly in every western country right after Trump's second election. Pure coincidence, of course.
>>534150002Who the fuck cares? It’s WORDS
>>534149503>...in Minecraft200 iq loophole
>>534159391Yes, I'm defending this novel for the exact same reasons multiple other people have already made clear, the most important reason being>If you make a metafiction where an adult character larps as a child illegal, then you can make writing a fiction about deporting immigrants a form of hate speechYou ignored that because you don't actually care about this, you care about defending the decisions of this judge because you're either a paid shill intern working in her office, or the judge herself. Your posts went from being long, deranged paragraphs to less than 20 words long the minute I accused you of having an agenda.
>>534159386>I went to Reddit to validate my beliefsHoly fucking kek
>>534150169What in the actual fuck are you talking about? Being a pedophile isn’t illegal; harming kids is.
>>534159485>Literally seething over wordsKys, troonoid
>>534159196>one form of stupidity justifies another form of stupidityretard
>>534159561I thought it might escape your notice that I was referring to you. Then again I suppose it would be difficult to ignore if you're that Redditor.
>>534151163Ding ding ding ding ding ding!!!
>>534159630You literally just admitted you use Reddit to validate what you believe though. It's unreal that you'd admit that but here we are
>>534148227Yes. Kill this degenerate whore, all kikes, and anyone who gets upset about this. Publicly.
>>534153800Unfortunately the opposite is true. Every time porn has become less restricted child rape has gone down, and every time more restricted, child rape goes up.
>>534150500Not if you're banning the sale and distribution of it. You can still have free speech. Bring back obscenity laws. Sharing is not the same as sale or distribution, so you can still share.
>>534159853The pedo defenders in this thread refuse to see the nuance of making it into a fucking book and selling it. Don't bother
>>534148227Awesome I'll get that deep state snatch and grab abduction operation chased down and thumb in the hole instantly.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/Screenshot%20_pol_/
>>534149215what a fucking ultra shitholeGod, I did not realize I could hate your people more
This is your daily friendly reminder that pedophilia and child exploitation does not exist in the way that it's portrayed by the west and that adult/child sexual relations were common throughout history in certain civilizations like Greece and Rome, and nobody batted an eyelid. While they were phased out of society, this was mostly due to the church mandating that you wait until marriage to have sex, it had nothing to do with pedophilia, which is 99.999% a completely artificial and modern concept and you are a cuck if you fall for the idea.
>>534160062"People in the past did it, that means it's okay." No.And shit that must be a controversial book. From the get-go I'm inclined to disagree with it; I was merely exposed to pornography at a young age and I simply regret it. I can only imagine what it would be like to be sexually approached by an adult.
>>534159330i don't know if this incoherent horseshit is a real post by a clinically insane liberal or a thinly veiled bait post by a shitlord...
>>534160062>Reading a book by a woman who admits to being molested by a close family member who instead of accepting the fact it was horrible she seeks to justify the experience and cause the continuation of the cycle of molesting.Pedos breed by kid touching that is the fact if the matter.
>>534160536>people in the pastCreated the civilizational ascent that has carried the west up until the last 200 years where it's coasted on nothing but inertia since the liberal revolutions.Is every single decision ever made in the past correct? Obviously not. But somehow they lived in empires with high culture and we have niggers clapping their ass cheeks and guys cutting their dicks off.I dunno man. Seems like our ancestors had a better grasp on how to run civilization than we do.
>>534160766Are you agreeing with potatanon? Because that really doesn't seem like a Nazi thing to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK8SH0vEKnY
>>534160619It’s completely true. Pedophiles deeply hate sex education and places with comprehensive sex education have lower rates of child rape.
>>534160766The same Romans that thought fucking kids was fine were cutting their dicks off. One of them even stole a kid, changed his name to a woman’s name and cut his dick off to keep him as a pet.
>>534161137Correct. Sex education objectively reduces offending.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6283686/
>>534160821Eva Braun was 16 or 17 when she met Hitler.
>>534148227Words can NEVER be illegal. If i want to advocate for trans rights and early age transition, I will do so as I please! Word rights are not human rights. Human rights are human rights
>>534161648>early age transitionearly age transition is an action. It's child abuse.if we do our job and arrest everyone who tries to transition their kid. then advocating for it will be pointless and will socially destroy you.
What’s really draconian is that the judge says she knows that no crime against children or even tangential offence has actually been committed but still specifically applies a child sex offender label specifically so she can’t pick her kids up for school because “a message must be sent”. It’s very medieval king type of thing. “My authority must not be questioned”. I wouldn’t encourage smut of this sort and I would even say publishing it is wrong, but applying a child sex offender label is purely malicious. The only “crime” here is creating pornography. But the state doesnt think that’s a a crime. The state is fine with degeneracy, but wants to make examples out of people to prove it’s totalitarian reach.
>>534148715>wooooooow I love your big cock, your cock is the best, I love being fucked this big cock because clown scary>horroryeah, ok
>>534162003I have no idea who steven king is. is this an accurate framing of his writing?
>>534148227think of the children is why I now have to produce an ID on every 18+ site on the net. Fuck 'em. I hope they get what's coming to them.
>>534162116Stephen King writes weird shit about kids too. Even the IT books had a random child orgy for some fucking reasonThey walk among us
>>534162163don't do that. use bypasses with tempermonkey scripts and extensions.they can fake the cookie so the site thinks you have given id.or just don't use sights that comply with that shit.
>>534162186Written with the flimsiest of contexts nonetheless. Freaking weird, man. I've heard that he has a habit of writing children in deeply questionable situations, but I have little if any firsthand experience of this.
>>534159368The real crux is that they should go after murder immediately as well. Fiction murder in any form should be banned by next week, we must protect the kids. Dear god the games I play, I sometimes murder a few trillion in an afternoon when a few planets go boom as my empire expands, didn't need that capital planet that had been mined out already.
>>534148227Ban Asexuals from making rules that have to do with anything sex or pre-post menopausal women and Fat-tall men and the world wins
>>534162116in IT, in a chapter called ritual of chud, a girl has a bunch of boys run a train on her so they can all become adultsafter a few of them cum in her, one has a big cock and she loves how big his cock is and cums for the first time because his big cock is so big
>>534162666If you didn't know it was literally called ritual of chud, you'd think it was a meme
>>534159258They're still far behind Britain. Aren't they banning the pornographic simulation of step incest roleplay between consenting adults?
>>534148227Convicted for what she wrote. We really don't have any artistic freedom in the west anymore
>>534151653How old were lots or who evers kids when they ran from sodom? They drug (drunk) raped their father, they were teens right? So all bibles, torah, qurans now need to be destoryed and banned right? Drug-rape, incest, pedophilia + the muzzie stuff with 9 year old 'wifey'.
>>534148227What if she wrote a story about adults pretending to be children pretending to be adults having sex? Would that have been child abuse material?
>>534162666>Ritual of chud.>topkek How has no one used this on dorky right wing epstein defenders?
>>534148369Who's Epstien?
>>534159384Its more like >the fictional adult character was pretending to be 12 year you sick fuck!
>>534149056they just zestin them lil niggers
>>534162302One of this short stories is like 30% thin premise and 70% graphic descriptions of a boy getting raped by a security guard. Coke or pedo? Do people become pedos on coke like you become gay on trenbolone? That would actually explain A LOT.
>>534162116No, just imagine if Dan Brown was a depressed pedophile with unlimited cocaine.
>>534149215Wow so your courts are basically useless.
>>534148478Genuinely, what is wrong with anglo countries?
>>534159258This is nothing new for Australia. Back in 2014 they went through a website banwave under a pretense they were banning pedo websites. Most of the websites were random sites like dentist office home pages.
>>534163858Works on my machine.
>>534148478>but … [she] played a role-playing characterIs it me, or is this a really weird way to word "she role-played as underage." The wording leads me to believe the fictional character in the book was playing DND or some kind of MMO? These are a themes in a lot of women's anime and manga. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.
>>534161241Exactly. There are dark web forums where they talk about this stuff with each other and come up with strategies. Part of the purpose of the “groomer” blood libel is that it helps remove sex ed from schools, which makes kids easier to rape.
>>534148227Thats how 4chan is already.
Lol I know this girl, used to go drinking with her and her friends. She was a weird bitch then so looks like nothing has changed
>>534148227I can only say the anglosphere is pozzle as fuck at this point.
>>534164011Careful anon. She might have been imagining she was 5 while drinking with you. You might be guilty of contributing to the delinquency of an imaginary minor.
>>534159121Australia was responsible for killing one of Epstein's key witnesses lol.Virginia Giuffre.She got hit by a car, then "suicided" jerself later.Australia is fully coopted by the Epstein class, it's one of their doomsday backup destinations.
>>534164090Wouldn't surprise me, something was always off with her but I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I've got some old pics but I can't post without doxing myself.
>>534148294Seems fairly tame and benign unless I'm missing something.
>>534148271He’s so awful now, wish they’d block your social media access after a certain age
>2026 >thought police in control
>>534148478>spitting on someone is sexualdamn, pol is getting grim
>>534148227This is the logical result of anti-porn hysteria.
>>534163848Governed by globalist traitors to our country and people
anyways if anyones wondering the context, the 18 year old girl in the book role plays as a 3 year old, daipurs and everything, to have sex with a 50 year old manthe writer says she wrote this to get over the trauma of her having a miscarriage.>>534165626lmao imagine writing a whole trump tweet to justify jerking off
>>534148227>>534165626Also anyone who says...>They'll implement digital ID but won't ban pornography, hypocrites much?...can shut the fuck up. One of the justifications for the social media age ban was the potential for children to access pornography. When you promote the porn addiction myth you also promote digital ID as a corollary. >>534165690>lmao imagine writing a whole trump tweet to justify jerking offImagine believing images and text are addictive lol.
>>534165954>implying i believe thatlmao, can you not read. or do you need me to write a whole trump tweet before you do
>"While the book is a fictional one, the visual the book created in the reader's mind was in fact a three-year-old child engaging in a sexual activity," she said.Laughable.
>>53415464818 year olds they told the dudes were actually 17.
>>534149269>Don't be racist.>Don't be sexist.>Don't disagree with the government ever.I'm not surprised that nigger cattle like you want to live on their knees.
>>534148369Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein??
>>534148715ur retard
>>534150169Child molestation is illegal, the mere fact of being a pedophile is not. If there's no victim, there's no crime, and pedophiles don't victimize kids by just existing. To argue otherwise is to literally advocate for the thought police.
>>534148227Soon they will make reading and writing illegal, because you could get information that is not sanctioned by big brother.
>>534150423>Morality is not law, because it's the law's job to enforce morality when morality fails to prevent immorality.So you believe that the law should enforce morality. That's to say, you believe that morality and the law are the same.>>534150586>If you don't want to get arrested, just comply and don't express your right to free speech, chud.Next time the state pulls some bullshit like covid, just comply, it's DA LAW after all.>>534151036>B-but the law says...Fuck aussie law, it's illegitimate, and instances like this prove it.>Law is about intent.The intent of whom? Moralfag foid judges? Should they get to decide what's right and wrong? Because that's what you're advocating for.>>534151603Nigger, you've been throwing ad homs throughout the entire thread.>>534152162>>534152691This is just whataboutism.
>>534165625If you haven't noticed, tons of young women are spitting now to be sexy. It's clearly some weird psyop but it is a thing now.
>>534158064>Appeal to hypocrisy.Not an argument. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL0ZUm6Ldlk
>>534158965>I think it should be illegal to write and profit from pedo rape fantasy.No one cares what you think, faggot.>The law agrees.I'm not a legal positivist so idgaf.
>>534159853>Freedom of speech isn't freedom of reach.According to your retarded moon logic, North Koreans have free speech because they're free to say whatever they want in their dark hovel. Assuming a party official doesn't overhear them of course.
>>534149148If it's a Muslim child, does your ideology say it's ok due to cultural reasons? Does it depend on the religion or race of the perpetrator?