we are not a memeflagfuck spaincatalonia is a distinct nation with its own language (which btw is the closest to Latin and Rome) and distinct culture
>>534169002Post your real flag.
>>534169002>region has regional culture and a regional dialectwell duh...>masonic bourgeois nation-states of modernity aims to homogenize its people into a "standard national citizen (city-zen)" based on the "main" dialect/culture or a new artifical onetrue true... (and thats a bad thing)>solution is to create new artifically standardizing nationalism from the regions whichs the "national citizen" is not based onNo. Instead change the modern bourgeois state into a traditional state (hence why Basques were strong supporters of Carlists against the Liberals, in the case of OP's Spain)
Unfortunately we are going down due to inmigration, I think those of us in the 30-40 range are already a minority, you could say we were already a minority in the 60s if you count spaniards as foreigners, like I do. So in reality we are like 30% in our own country, how many other countries have a similar percentage?
>>534169002>i'm le specialthe canu-kikes from Spain
>>534169002You can't fool me south Vietnam.
Sorry but Cacalonia is only the gayest part of Spain.
>>534169002Fuck "Catalonia", you're all a bunch of jews and jew-tools.
>>534170020>>534170216>>534170256surely spain would be better without us then
>>534169002>we are not a memeflag>fuck spain>catalonia is a distinct nation with its own language (which btw is the closest to Latin and Rome) and distinct cultureLoving your homeland is virtuous. Defining yourself by hating others is not. Catalonia has always been and always will be part of Spain. Hating Spain is hating yourself. Be proud of who you are and don't fall into that trap.
NOOOO SENYOOOORRR NOSALTRES NO SOM ESPANYOLS
>>534172367>Defining yourself by hating others is not.efining yourself by hating others is not.Wanting to be independent doesn't mean hating anyone, just like portuguese don't want to be spanish and you don't want to be moroccan or french>always been and always will be part of Spainyeah because castille stole the geographic name of the whole peninsula for themselves
>>534172367This.>>534172480See >>534169823
>>534169002I have an red espanyol shirt.I would like a prize please
>>534169002But at this point, Catalunya is a hellhole filled with muzzrats and niggers, it's over
>>534172534>>534169823But why should we surrender ourselves and forever be a region when you aren't? you get to put your flag in the UN, you get to cheer for your country in all international sports, you get to decide how your country is to be, you talk to other nations as equals, we don't have any of that.It's easy to take this for granted when you have it and pretend others wanting the same is capricious and annoying. Why don't you become just a region like us if it's so good? You could be part of Denmark, Germany or Russia, they could allow you to speak your own language in the begining, and then geting replaced step by step, with no stop and no end. And when you try to change it, other countries make fun of you for wanting to exist.
>>534170876>muh GDPWe think about saving nations here, you aren't a special snowflake.I member in Barcelona when whores and fags lined up to be implanted with a RFID chipset linked to their bank accounts.2006 something like that, ogre.
>>534173097If our politicians had not betrayed us, we would've been expelled from the EU and when the gibs would've dried up, the inmigrants would've followed the money and leave. Such a lost opportunity.
>>534173191>Why don't you become just a region like us if it's so good? its not>a "real country" with some "attached regions"The country is the collective of regions. You are Spanish (Catalan).I live in a region and have a rooted belonging to my local (regional) culture, within my country.
>>534173323why is having leftist somehow a deal breaker when independent countries also have them? should france stop being independent then?
>>534173412France isn't independant you absolute retard
>>534169002but youre a libtard shithole, you should not be allowed to have independance.
>>534173406We are not a region, we are non independent nation that also have regions inside. You could've easily been a "region" of another country, perhaps a region of a future european nation, would your feelings change then? And it's not like many other independent countries weren't once regions of others in the past, so how is that an argument?
>>534173500Let's make Catalonia equally independent then.>>534173559you were a soviet region, dude
>>534173737but we never were or are libtards importing foreigners on our own will.
>>534173737If you want to be independant you have to rope judeo masons and deport shitskins. I never saw such thing or such ideas in the program of independantists fags.
>>534174020>>534174353We haven't been "our own" for centuries
>>534174559why does your shithole have higher immigration than rest of Spain?
>>534169002You all are so tiresome, if I didn't know better I'd wish you'd leave in hopes that you'd all stop whinning already.>distict nation with its own languageThe difference between nation and province is power. If you weren't a bunch of fags people would take you more seriously>>534173191>you get to put your flag in the UN, you get to cheer for your country in all international sports, you talk to other nations as equals.Genuinely who tf cares?>you get to decide how your country is to beThe only important one and just straight up wrong
>>534169002I would agree that we Catalans carry this country but unfortunately indepes are the biggest retards and you faggots only hold us back and I'd rather stay with Spain than give indepe retards any satisfaciton.Look at the average CUP meeting, or look at the UAB campus or the illiterate bumpkins from les comarques. Fuck your estelada, we're staying.
>>534174841Almost half of their kids below 5 are inmigrants, if they divorced spain and had an election theyd turn into a caliphate. Not that our future is looking much brighter. Fret not catalbros well all be Al Andalus again soon inshallah!
>>534169002wtf is a catalonia
>>534175338Time for Asturias kingdom 2.0 and subsequent Reconquista.
>>534175338I had a cousin leave Cuba for Spain then he fled Spain for Miami. He says there's no work and everyone is brown, that he should've just stayed in Cuba for that. All the shit talking aside, you dont need foreign migration from panchitos or blacks, jeets, guiri, fuck anyone at all. You have a near endless supply of iberian blooded / Spanish diaspora all over the globe that simply refuse to return to Spain, and more and more leave every day like this was the 1890s all over again. If Spain could unfuck itself everyone would return. What that means or what it would look like, i'm not sure.
>>534169002>we are not a memeflagwe just suck jews too often
>>534174841Ever since the industrial revolution we have had inmigrants from the rest of spain in large waves to work on infrastructure, factories and the tourist sector. These factors created an industrial elite that lives from a never ending growth and doesn't care for the marginalization of locals. Catalans were already less than half of the total population in the 70s, completely replaced in many large cities.Most of the people coming from Murcia and Andalucia, most of them voting spanish socialism even now, no matter what.This low wage inmigraton never stopped, due to France proximity we also got senegalese and other africans and then the moroccans and south americans.While many on the left support inmigrantion, the spanish right also does it cause they are using spanish speaking inmigrants to lower the percentage of locals, they did this for decades. So it's a bit more complicated than "le libtards".We are an industrious region with record number of tourists in and ideal location for economic growth, this unfortunately creates a never ending need for inmigrants taking low wages.Obviously not all our leftism is caused by spanish inmigrants, but their large numbers made it impossible to create any pro nativist policies and shifted all policies.Does Lithuania has more than half of their people being russian speakers that vote for either leftist parties that want to replace you with foreigners, or right wing parties that want to replace you with russians? With those on the right calling your local language "farmer speak" while their leftists call it "landlord speak", always hating you no matter what?
>>534176061Our flag is older so have some respect and who the fuck are you to call anyone jews? you are fucking POLAND
>>534169002>(which btw is the closest to Latin and Rome)lmao...If Catalonia were a nation, they’d be bankrupt; they rely on the taxes paid by all Spaniards to survive. If Catalonia were a nation, it would be the new caliphate of Europe; you only need to visit the embassies to see the hundreds of sandniggers. The modern Catalan language is an invention concocted by a bunch of dudes in a room, with conjugations and made-up words that have never existed, based on the premise that ‘new words must bear no resemblance whatsoever to Spanish, huehue’. The current concessions are designed to keep Pedro Sánchez in power, yeah! Pedro Sánchez! you read that right! Need I say more? A prime minister who has put Spain behind Botswana in terms of corruption levels!
>>534176142who the fuck are you?
>>534175321JESUS MARIA Y JOSE! WTF is wrong with their faces?!
>>534175321This is your average pro spain "catalan", anyone can play this game.
>>534176157>If Catalonia were a nation, they’d be bankrupt;let's try it> they rely on the taxes paid by all Spaniards to survivelmao where did you get this from? how can you say this?>it would be the new caliphate of Europethey would just leave>current concessions name 10
>>534169002Comeme los huevos rojo de mierda. ¡ARRIBA ESPAÑA!
>>534176232Someone that didn't cry to UK and France and got Europe destroyed so they could larp as an important country.
>>534176329lies, this is the average pro spain scatalan
>>534177606yeah sure
>>534169002you should just fly the marxist flag because that's all you breakaway regions are.
>>534177940yeap, charnegas are like 10 times better looking than scatalans
>>534169002Ah the ten second country isn't a memeflag yes.
>>534178072>Marx invented nationalism>USA against independence movementsnigga shut the fuck up
>>534178242you are like a retard
>>534178092Implying many charnegas aren't extremely short and fat, in what world does Hospitalet and Cornellá have the prettiest women lmao>>534178158Its older than yours
>>534173670>muh diverse regionsYeah, for anyone outside of Spain you’re just another Espanish. No one cares that your town makes its own flavor of bizcocho or whatever other fake shit some boomers in the sixties made up.
>>534178376Who cares what ignorant people think? That doesn't chagne who we are. Also check your flag.
>>534178477The point is that you’re not actually different from the rest of the country. Any differences are mostly made up by ideologues who never had to actually expose their ideas to the real world. This republic they all dream of can be anything they want it to be because it’s an idea created by a bunch of useless funcionarios who’ve never had to actually get any real feedback from the world.If Cataluña had its independence, it’d just be a smaller, worse version of Spain.
>>534169002LOLDidn't know Rome was funded by anglos to break up hispanicity even more XD
>>534179100How different is Andorra or Portugal and what feedback are you talking about? Make me a list of the necessary differences and the real world feedback.>If Cataluña had its independence, it’d just be a smaller, worse version of Spain.that's just your opinion based on nothing, don't pretend otherwise
>>534179658>hispanicityI have zero in common with a peruvian, not even spanish right wing voters believe in hispanopanchismo, only those financing VOX do
>>534169002>which btw is the closest to Latin and RomeLol no. That would be Sardinian. Catalan reads and sounds like a language made out of the odd ends of Spanish, French, and maybe Portuguese.
>>534180031>>534179979Ah, a Catalumnia
>>534169002It is basically a place, where everyone does homosexual activity, they insist on it.
>1pbtid memeflaggot jeetslop YOU ALL ARE BREATHTAKINGLY STUPID.
>>534169002True, but your citizens are the biggest faggots in Spain. Castilian wins.
>>534172480Alone you'd be just another small country, more difficult to defend yourself from either military attacks or any kind of subversion by Judeo-AmericaYou're better off as a part of Spain
>>534173097You're not seeing the opportunity for RECONQUISTA
>>534182101The real opportunity for Reconquista is in the USA and Canada.
