>As of March 31, the country’s publicly held debt was $31.265 trillion, while GDP over the preceding year was $31.216 trillionThe US population is about 342 million. If we subtract the 7.5 million jewish population, that leaves around 335 million. That makes it $93,328 in debt for each Goymerican to pay off with his taxes.
Never has pic related rung so true these days
americans cannot compute that tax cuts without spending cuts is just a tax on future generations
>>534172572I'm all for spending cutsIt's boomers, jews, illegals, nonwhites and women who dont want cuts
>>534172572there's no real way out of this. i've heard scott bussyent and howard nutlick talking about inflating it away, but that will never work.
>>534172572>americans can not comprehend central banking is a ponzi scheme and every subsequent mongrel generation from the grottos of south america will be even dumber and demand more and more juice is squeezed it doesn't exist, it's all in your head
Trump should just mint a $40 trillion coin and make it go away.
>>534172476hmmm? The St Louis fed has US gdp at 31.856 trillion as of the end of March.
>>534172609>boomersdo you mean this as offhand for any overweight/obese person 45 and up, which would be most of the white population i imagine
>>534172572Spending cuts won't work either. There's no way to pay back this much debt except through slavery or money printing, both of which are part of the current plan. Hitler was in the same position with German debt and he just told the banks he won't pay. That's the only way out of this problem.
>>534172476Huh? Any online source will tell you the US is already at a (completely bonkers) debt to GDP ratio of 120%+. Debt maintenance costs are equal to the defence budget and economic growth is AI boom+deficit. These things are well known and worry anybody besides - seemingly - the average amerilard. Only significant tax hikes are going to avert a debt spiral going forward. Many hot summers are yet to come.
>>534172914Just what the article says, you can read it yourself (unlocked link)https://www.wsj.com/economy/u-s-debt-tops-100-of-gdp-81c013d7?st=VHTG4o&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
>>534172476first off dat 100% debt-to-gdp ratio? look it ain sum end-of-days shit but don get it twisted, it ain sweet neitha. its like yo check engine light been on fo a minute. car still movin but u know u got problems stackin up unda da hood. we talkin publicly held debt, da bread we owe to outside cats not dat funny money da government b owin to itself. dat $31 trillion figure u threw out? yeah we done crossed dat line where we outchea runnin w countries like spain n france. ain japan levels of crazy, dem fools pushin 250%, but we in da mix now n it ain a good look.why should u give a damn? cuz when dis debt get too fat it start pushin out private money interest payments start eatin up da budget like rent due n when recession hit? we ain got no cushion we ass-out. erry time dem interest rates go up a notch da government bleedin out billyuns mo just on payments, money dat coulda gone to schools roads juks wuteva. but hol up, is da whole house on fire rn? nah. da dollar still run da world n errbody still fiendin fo dem treasury bonds. ain nobody bout to default tomorrow. wut it really is is a slow bleed. deficit stay high economy supposed to b doin good n we still spendin like we in a damn crisis. dat mean long-term we on a trash trajectory specially w all dese old heads retirin n needin dey social security. so miss me w da "errthing fine" cap but also don come round screamin da sky fallin. its serious but it ain a tonight problem.
>>534173271now dat bs math u did? da "$93328 per goymerican" thang? man sitcho ass down sumwhere. u really just took da national debt subtracted my jewish folks like dey ain part of da damn cuntry n cooked up sum fake-ass per-person tab? dat ain analysis das clown sheeit w a side of hate n i gotta call it out straight no chaser.ain no such thang as a per-person debt bill dummy. dat ain how sovereign debt works. da government ain finna send u a invoice like "ayo nigga u owe 93 bands." tax dollars service dat debt from da whole pool period. its backed by da full faith n credit of da us which mean all 342 million of us, blk yt jooish wuteva, in dis bitch togetha. u cannot ethnically cleanse da taxpayer base jus cuz u lookin fo a scapegoat. yo whole equashun fall apart da second u try to carve out a group n act like dey don contribute to da pot dey definitely bleedin into. das sum straight-up protocols-ass numerology n da only reason u'd run dat play is if u alr got a hard-on fo blamin jooos.da real per capita number if u gotta b simple bout it is $91400 fo erry single soul in da country. but really miss me w dat per-person nonsense altogetha its a political problem not a personal tab. da term "goymerican" is sum made-up divisionary bs. u talkin bout debt but really u just lookin fo anudda excuse to otherize folks. so do me a favor: keep dat scapegoatin trash outcho mouth when u talkin economics. da real conversashun bout debt is about revenue spendin n priorities, not which american u wanna write out da social contract. das lame das hateful n frankly das bitch-made.
>>534172669The solution is slavery enforced by Palantir until the goyim pay it all off
>>534172817Just any asshole collecting social security
>>534172669 #>>534172609 #>>534172669 #There is so much more wealth in this country than gdp.There are so many ways we could collect this money>raise payroll tax>implement wealth tax>eliminate step-up gains for financial assets>raise tax on real estate capital gains>raise tax on long term capital gains>raise interest rates to lower debt supply (this would slow the rate of the debt increase rather than lowering debt)>raise taxes on banks who service student loans>eliminate amortization for many capital assets (the great gay tax fiction)>eliminate SALT deductionBut real economic solutions aren’t as sexy as blaming jews, women, and blacks.Most of the wealth in this country is corporate-held.The tax code is filled with faggotry most people would disagree with but few people understand
>>534173306Ayo Jews are getting PAID off the debt though, them niggas ain't responsible for paying that shit back. That's why I ain't count them
>>534172476It doesn't matter. The United States federal government issues money. It does not borrow money. It has to issue money first before anyone else has money to spend.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pex89N9Oqog
>>534172476sweet, since I pay more in taxes than that each yeat that means you niggers can fuck off and stop getting my taxes.
>>534174247Has this fucker never heard of the Federal Reserve?
>>534174264No one is receiving your taxes. Your taxes are collected and immediately destroyed (at the federal level anyway). All spending is newly created money. Taxes are a check on inflationary pressure primarily.
>>534172476So what? Just sell us debt to indian collection agencies. What's the big deal?
>>534174119Given that government overspending is what got the US to this situation in the first place, what do you think is going to happen if the government raises taxes as you suggest and suddenly gets all these new sources of revenue?
>>534172476Trump: "oh well, we need to kill more Muslims"
>>534172476is this the part where the jews leave?https://www.bitchute.com/video/udYxLmwxoe82
>>534174348You conservatives do not understand the Fed, like you don't understand pretty much anything else. You always confuse mechanisms.The Fed is an agent of Congress. Congress apportions all spending. Period end of discussion. The Fed only comes in afterwards in support of the interest rate target.Congress can amend or repeal the Federal Reserve Act at any time. When the Fed holds a government bond, it remits interest back to the Treasury minus expenses.Stop and think logically for a few minutes.
>>534174459Monetary sovereigns are not revenue constrained. They do not need to collect any taxes in order to spend.
>>534172476If you're in debt just print more money until you can pay it jeez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0OFY7W3Qs
>>534172669They're gonna sell off the national parks eventually. Yids, Chinks, and Jeets will buy up yellowstone and everything of value.
At some point americans are going to experience a few generations of hardship. I know thats unfathomable for americans but its coming whether they like it or not. You didnt think the gravy train would last forever did you
>>5341741196T gets syphoned out of the US each year. Just a 0.1% tax on financial transactions would net 1.5T per year, but that taxes the kikes, so it will never happen.
>>534172476What are they gonna do when the petrodollar ends?
Just make Billionairs pay it. It's not a big deal if we make them pay. They have 8 trillion dollars so that's a big chunk.
>>534172476The only way to pay down the debt is to tax corporate revenue and to tax the rich, meaning a tax on wealth and unrealized capital gains. The system is rigged to make asset prices grow exponentially out of control to make rich people richer without having to pay a dime of tax. The economy has blown up by tens of trillions of dollars and hardly any of that has made its way into fixing the structural issues like the national debt spelling certain doom. There is no way to make a dent in the debt by only taxing the income of working people and tariffs.
>>534174878>Just make Billionairs pay itThey're the ones who you owe the money to. But you're actually right. The only solution is to tell them to fuck off, we're not paying interest on these loans anymore. That would require a non-Jewish government though
>>534172476the united states is a dead country, the dollar is on its last legs the crazy part is we are upping the military budget to 1.5 trillion so the spending is accelerating not slowing down, complete circus when you consider the insider trading and its all just a complete joke.
>>534174459If the increased revenue pays down the debt the dollar gets stronger and purchasing power goes up and my life improves. (As it does when nations are fiscally responsible)But you raise a fine point. My government is so retarded they’d probably spend even more
>>534172572Boomers don't care, run the government, and your triple lock is worse.>>534172669It can't work because the boomers luxury communism payouts are indexed to inflation. If you gigaprint, boomer entitlements will giga-increase.
>>534172476Just kill all silents, boomers and genX. Eliminate social security. Problem solved
>>534174881>The only wayShut up tard. There are plenty of ways, but you'll only get jewish ones. You could tax the entire world that uses your internet infrastructure and net 4T per year. You could tax service outsourcing and generate 1-2T per year. You could tax remittances and generate 500B+ per year. Lots of ways. None will happen though because jews hate you.
>>534175049Actually, the US poor and middle class are taxed less than their European equivalents.
>>534172476I'm pretty sure we went over 100% like 10 years ago.
>>534172836Hitler switched to labor backed currency. Worked fine.
>>534174881Or...you could run a permanent ZIRP and get the growth rate above that low interest rate threshold.Or you could start to run a very large trade surplus with the rest of the world. But trying to close the deficit or balance the budget while you have a huge trade deficit is how Bill Clinton caused the dotcom crash. In a scenario where you run a large trade deficit, the government HAS to run a deficit. Where else is the surplus coming from for the private sector to accumulate? The government, as the issuer of the currency, is the only one who can sustainably run a deficit. The private sector can't run a deficit.
>>534174136Asset forfeiture. Global chase.
>>534175028I don't think people that paid into their pensions should lose it, just so outrageous Jewish debts can be repaid. It's the opposite, Jewish debts have to be cancelled so that pensions that have already been paid into can be protected
>>534175088They actually get a few things for their taxes unlike you. You get to fund niggers and trannies and all the jewish projects. They do as well, but they at least get a sprinkle of returns like roads and bridges and health care and time off work and subsidized college, etc. The average white goy in america gets NOTHING at all. What does a 35 year old white american man get? NOTHING.
>>534174823Also true. I feel that’s a bit regressive though (it would be a sales tax for the most part)Things like pensions are bankrupting many governments and they are basically corrupt, with much of that money going to fund managers/institutional investors regardless of whether they make money.same with 401ks. People could be better paid if there were not incentives to give money to investors/money managers (like the 401k)More tax brackets could help too
>>534174119None of that shit makes a dent on the budget you pozzed socialist retard. >>wealth confiscationKill yourself communist>>raise taxes on banks who service student loansAre you fucking retarded? Are you actually fucking retarded? Raise taxes on banks so they just raise rates and fees? Also how does raising taxes on corporations literally run by the government help the government?The majority of our budget are Medicare, Medicaid, and social security. Those all need to goAlso again, kill yourself socialist tranny. That will help the budget, you’re clearly a net negative in terms of tax participation
>>534175200Pensions will all be bankrupt within 20-30 years. They're all invested in private equity scams where they get paper returns which will never materialize while paying billions in management fees to kikes. Private equity will completely cannibalize pension funds.
>>534172572No, we can compute. We just don't care.Welcome to leftist liberalism, where you don't care about future generations because they are all going to be brown or jewish.
>>534175272>The majority of our budget are Medicare, Medicaid, and social security. Those all need to goNo, they don't.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNCZHAQnfGU
>>534175200They didn't pay into shit. SS is a tax and spend program, not a government personal IRA. The courts have ruled on this.
>>534175200I think we should lump sum give everyone their contribution and interest then end the program.Or just, yk, ask that people who make >$220k a year to pay into it. That is a big reason it’s unfunded (that and corrupt social security fund managers taking money even when they lose it)
>>534172476>$31.265Wasn't it $39T by now?
Good. Accelerate to 150%.
>>534175349>GreenspanGee I wonder why a Jewish banker would advocate for unlimited money printing
>>534172572We are confiscating a FED bank that you are running. The so called "debt" will be over very very soon,as soon as we confiscate the FED Bank.>the FED bank is creating debt and inflation.
>>534172669it is literally made up. it's not real. it really doesn't matter. all that matters is that uppity countries know an American carrier strike group can come up and slap their shit anywhere & anytime.
>>534172609>It's boomers, jews, illegals, nonwhites and women who dont want cutsAgree, basically Democrats.
>>534172476>boomers voting for the government to give everything to Israel and not a penny to the American people>now the country is unironically collapsing Love to see it
>>534175298>leftist liberalism,It's been boomercons driving the deficit spending primarily, starting with St. Reagan. Trump added about 8T to the debt his first term, and has added about another 2-3 in his second term. Republicans tax shirks are the fucking problem when it comes to deficit spending and sovereign debt, not leftists.
>>534175408I bet jews jerk off to this calculator
>>534172572anon.... that's exactly the point. it's called "starving the beast", it's an economic theory that took its foundation during the Reagan era.by creating the conditions where socialist programs and handouts to the poor and lazy like social security, welfare, medicare and so on cannot be properly funded they're put in a position where they must heavily reduced or be ended.big government is no good. why should my income be going to pay for some 70 year old boomers retirement? why should my income pay for some 17 year old nigger crack head to have a child? why should my income go towards roads and sidewalks that I'll never use? it's literally fascism.
Is this public debt? I thought the government debt was already 120%?
>>534175272> Raise taxes on banks so they just raise rates and feesOnly retards have adjustable rate student loans. This would not happen. Those loans are already guaranteed by the government.> The majority of our budget are Medicare, Medicaid, and social security.False. The majority of our budget is defense and debt service.If taxes don’t get raised the currency becomes worthless and self-hating poorfags like you become even more poor and pathetic. I wish well for my countrymen. You are either retarded or a debased nigger if you do not wish well for your countrymen (which sometimes means raising taxes on the businesses who exist by virtue of the government)
>>534172476>print 31,000,000,000,000 in treasury notes>problem solved
>>534172669>there's no real way out of thisYes there is. We are confiscating the FED Bank. The FED bank creates all fake debt. It is controlled by London Central Bank and by BIS out of Switzerland .It is literally Boomers credit card ran by a foreign bank that we need to confiscate.
>>534175456He's not actually advocating for "unlimited money printing". Printing isn't a good word since there is no commodity the money is tied to that issuance would dilute against.What he is explaining is that money is not a real resource. There is no theoretical limit on its creation. What matters is if there are real resources. Is there natural gas to heat your home? Is there building materials to construct with? Is there suitable labor to harness those raw materials?But if conservatives went around telling you the country was running out of chicken thighs and spray foam insulation, I don't think anyone would believe them. So they lie and say the country is running out of money. And that falsehood resonates with the average Joe who has to earn deposits instead of the government who can create them.Money is a tool to direct real resources. It is a creature of the State. It's not a medium of exchange and it is not a store of value.
>>534175597In practice, it's just Republicans deficit spending while fucking up the economy such that there isn't the Chinese levels of growth needed to counterbalance the loss of revenue.
>>534172476Biggest problems atm are social security being an unsustainable Ponzi scheme (like all pensions) and that billionaires are allowed to have income untaxed by using their wealth as collateral
>>534172476>The US population is about 342 million. If we subtract the 7.5 million jewish population, that leaves around 335 million. That makes it $93,328 in debt for each Goymerican to pay off with his taxes.That's not how it works.Part of the population are elderly and kids.Also, millions of illegal workers
>>534175750>In practice, it's just Republicans deficit spendingNo. Such . Thing. All Deficit Spening is ALWAYS DEMOCRATS Deficit spending. There was not a single time in DECADES that Democrats EVER Balanced the budget. EVER.
>>534175750everything will fix itself with companies are fully trickle down and create billions and jobs and reinvigorate the economy after being freed from the shackles of economic slavery to big government. trust the plan, (((they))) have never been wrong
>>534172476>publically held debtThat's not all debt. Total US debt is $39 tril
>>534175855Tell me, jesuit. Why is current FED chair, Jerome Powell, also a Vatican jesuit? Is he the agent of the Vatican? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Powell
>>534175824What's the deficit this year?
>>534175597Expect there's like 10x more federal programs since Reagan.What happened to starving the beast?
>>534172476 <--Canada flag 9 pbtid>>534172669>>534172914>>534174119https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt-to-GDP_ratio
>>534172572not if the country grows and your salary increases so they get more at the same tax rate For americans that has been the case for 15 years. Europeans not so much.
>>534175824>this is what Republicans actually believe
>>534175824Balancing the budget while running large and sustained trade deficits is economic suicide. There are lots of very good reasons you should not run large and sustained trade deficits -- but if you are currently doing it, balancing the budget is the last thing you should be concerned about doing.
>>534175841>trickle down economicsyou're a fucking joke.
>>534172476Its not my debt so I dont care.
>>534172476Why wouldn’t the jews pay taxes?
This spending vs taxing debate is a Jewish distraction. You niggas need to stop fighting amongst eachother and look at the REAL problem, which is the debt itself and who holds it. Just cancel the debt. Then you don't need to raise taxes or cut spending.
>>534176069The debt is not an actual problem.
>>534175950IRRELEVANT. Everything up until this year has been created by the Democrats, who control congress and senate. It's Democrats inability to balance the budget EVER, that caused us to elect Trump. Name a year when Democrats balanced the budget. >inb4 Clinton who STOLE Social Security Trust fund money and left gov IOUs there.
>>534172817Not that anon but boomers suck up government money through entitlements while getting rich as fuck from bloated asset prices. The meds that keep the driving around and buying lotto tickets at all hours are a net drain on our economy. When they go to a nursing home our government pays hundreds of thousands of dollars for some corpo to hire niggers to beat them in a filthy apartment. Boomers bitch about everyone being entitled but boomer entitlements are the largest government expense besides the military, which boomers also want more of. Any talk of cutting boomer entitlements is political kryptonite because old people are the largest and most active voter base.
>>534175988Hang yourself. Not arguing with morons:>>534176152
>>534172476Based Trump and his republican fiscally responsible policies
>>534176152Didn't republicans control all 3 branches during Trump's 1st term? What did they do then?
>>534172476it's over trump could took canada, instead he decided to FAFO in iran.
>>534172572I've wanted the government to cut spending to 1776 levels for a while now.
>>534174994 <--5 pbtid>>534175238>>534175985>muh revenue>not if the country growsInterest Payments on the debt are far beyond annual fedgov discretionary spending.Fully half of each year's rubberstamped Congress budget of $2+ trillion is instantly <whoosh> vacuumed up by the credit card payment.The incoming administration's supply side strategy was, to get the annual GDP growth rate up from its anemic ~2.5%/annum into the 6 or 7 percent range<--that would *just barely* keep the federal budget ahead of Interest Payments on the debt. At current $2T/annum spending approved by U.S. Congress----that hold the purse strings on spending, that is the main job of legislative branch----the treasury will impact the Total Default brick wall four years from now.Current forecast for 2026 Q1 gdp shows around 2 percent growth
>>534175992>Balancing the budget while running large and sustained trade deficits is economic suicideThat's why we elected TRUMP. 3 times btw. Who has tried to balance trade deficit 1st time and Democrats tried to not allow him to do anything. During Trump 1.0 trade deficit went down from 400 bln to 200 bln. As soon as Biden was elected it went back up to 300 bln+.
>>534172476WE NEED 2008 GREAT RECESSION SPENDING EVERY YEAR FOREVER JUST BECAUSE WE DO OKAY CHUDS?
>>534175597>fascismNo it’s worse, it’s anarcho-tyranny. And the end result of this is that more and more people will find ways to avoid contributing to the system or just not pay their taxes at all. Meanwhile more and more of the services we once associated with the government will get taken over by private companies or cryptocurrency protocols, while the government itself becomes less and less relevant to anyone’s life.The only way to avoid this is to blow up the dollar now in order to get out from under the debt, which is going to brutally fuck China and Europe, but will still leave America as the hegemon, since we are still the dominant military power by far, have the largest store of gold and cryptocurrency, and have the most productive and wealthy population.
>>534173271Mate, I'm not reading this Chicken scratches, ebonics mess. Just cos you're a nigger in real life and speak like one doesn't mean you shouldn't write properly.
>>534176236NO, Democrats always control everything. They also Install RINOs into Republcian party, people who pretend to be Republicans but vote 90%+ Democrat. So essentially in the last 30+ years, Democrats control Congress and Senate. AND NOT A SINGLE YEAR THEY BALANCED THE BUDGET. Ever.
>>534175200If Republicans can manage to cheat and gerrrymander their way to winning the midterms, social security and medicare will be gone in 2027. Its the low hanging fruit. They'll say it's the only way to pay off the national debt while demanding $1.5T for the military. Nobody is getting a refund or lump sum pay out either.
>>534176320A rather straightforward solution to this problem is to 1) stop selling bonds and directly issue money 2) set a permanent ZIRP 3) allow the Fed to purchase bonds directly from the Treasury on the primary marketNow, that wouldn't have much of an effect on already existing and issued bonds -- the government agreed to pay interest on them, so it has to do so. But there is no reason why interest needs to be paid on bonds in the first place. Bonds don't even need to be sold -- but we'll acknowledge that maybe that's hard for some people to grasp.
>>534176365Tell that to Trump who spent like a drunken sailor in his first term, instead of Obama who steadily decreased the deficit after the initial recession years.
>>534176450Hang yourself moron.>>534176443>>534176336>>534176152
>>534174119>>534174247>>534174428>>534174621Defaulting won't kill the country, but keeping this debt will just make every single one of you poorer every year. Why? The debt to GDP ratio is old news. It’s the interest payments that are gutting you now. Rates are so high that the government spends more on interest than the military. That means your taxes aren't building roads or tech. They’re just disappearing into a black hole of interest.And what’s the brilliant plan? Print more? Every time that printer goes brrr, inflation destroys your purchasing power. On top of that, politically, both parties are just spouting nonsense. Democrats want more welfare spending while Trump and the GOP scream for tax cuts. You can't have both. Cutting taxes without cutting spending, or raising taxes to spend even more, just balloons the debt. It all ends with your quality of life in the trash.>>534174832Zimbabwe will be established on American soil. To buy a loaf of bread, they have to load money onto a truck and go to the bakery.
>>534176336Everything I am saying is in one ear and out the other. You are too stupid to actually understand what is being explained. You run on feelings and propaganda.You're not taking the time to structurally think about what I am saying.
>>534172476I voted for this.You lost, trannies.
>>534172476Cool. Now let's see Canadian debt to GDP.
>>534176490You've already hung yourself moron.
>>534172476seeing GDP is a figment of jewish imagination and made for redit golems to worship, debt is somewhere at 10x the real GDP if not worse.
>>534176450I still cannot believe they could do SS, medicare and medicaid 100%, also Obamacare FOR SURE since Obama made it. They made TrumpRX and will tell everyone to use that.If they did do this I hope they at least do a Death Tax of 80%, since of all the suicides this would cause.
>>534176152>>534176236>>534176281Congress acts as a Uniparty, that is visible no more clearly in their lockstep approval of massive deficits and increasing the national debt by $2 trillion per year for decades. None of this, anymore, is about the (60s-80s era) 'guns v. butter' or 'reduce the deficit' cosplay kabuki.Revenue is totally irrelevant, all the money for anything fedgov wants (AI datacenters, you name it) immediately and in perpetuity is typed up on a computer screen and added to the tab. Trump himself has been talking about elimination of federal income taxes for a decade (and wouldn't matter anyway the IRS is a joke as an organization-agency and as a """"revenue provider""")U.S. Congress is responsible for making the decision, authorizations to continue enslaving via treasury all Americans to the private central bank. And now it's more serious even than that because treasury is on track to the Total Default brick wall in four years, that won't be reached because the global debt market will have imploded long prior.
>>534176498This country is an insane asylum from the people to its leadership. I'm glad I have a second passport as an ejection seat I suspect I'll have to use in the 2030s
>>534176526Hang yourself moron. Everything I am saying is in one ear and out the other. You are too stupid to actually understand what is being explained. You run on feelings and propaganda.That's why WE ELECTED TRUMP 3 TIMES . moron.Because Democrats are unable to balance the budget, EVER. Not even once. To a point Democrats are now running $2 TRILLION dollar a year negative budget.
>>534176543Yeah it's a comparably bad situation. Your point? I don't support Jewish debt economies in any country
>>534176336>balanceRead post above (You). Adminstration's plan 18 months later, isn't working.
>>534175781Welfare/social security, but also defense spending. Most defense contractors aren’t like SpaceX. They’re full of low-IQ affirmative action hires and are incentivized to deliver as little as possible for as much as possible. This is why the problem has never been solved, because ultimately both parties expand the size of one or the other, and both of those things are hugely dysgenic, which exacerbates the problem over time.
>>534176561Nice. You lost , little tranny , 3 times. You will continue losing. Everywhere where you install Democrat socialists is literally COLLAPSNIG now. >California, Seattle, New York City - all collapsing under massive debt >and companies leaving
>>534176498It seems almost impossible to imagine the US would have the same scale of production collapse that Zimbabwe had. That is actually why their currency collapsed -- the production behind it evaporated with the land reforms (wherein largely White-owned farms were seized and handed over to new black landowners).With the resulting agricultural output collapse, Zimbabwe lost its chief means of acquiring foreign currency which it would then use to buy things it did not produce itself.For all of the problems the US has, it still produces an awful lot of things for itself and for export.
>>534172476>The US population is about 342 million. If we subtract the 7.5 million jewish population, that leaves around 335 million. That makes it $93,328 in debt for each Goymerican to pay off with his taxes.I have a better idea: divide $31.265T by 7.5M jews, and you get $4,168,666 that each jew will be required to work off at a labor camp (at Federal minimum wage, of course).
congress could just spend less money
>>534176730Last time I checked Cletus, your orange daddy is running up the debt like a motherfucker.
>>534176654Not a SINGLE TIME Democrats balanced the budget ,EVER. Now it is $2 TRILLION a YEAR. Do you, idiots, know what happens when you have to print $2 TRILLION / year to balance the budget? INFLATION. >this is economy 101.
>>534176773absolutely based
>>534176163>>534176163kys when 50?, remember it.
>>534172476>burgers be likeWe're the world's number one ecomony>also burgersFor every dollar we make 25% goes to interest payments Money printer go brrr
>>534176498The crash would be a good thing though. White Americans are collectively the most intelligent, resourceful people on the planet, and we have nowhere to go. Getting out from under the boot of big government would allow us to build again. An American collapse would look nothing like Zimbabwe. More of a cleanse, really.
>>534176625I have already explained to you why the budget can't be balanced with the structural realities of the US economy as it is. Clinton tried to do it with republican support and it was an unmitigated disaster.In theory, the tariffs are a logical way to begin this process. But as we can see, that wasn't backed by any government initiatives to localize production and substitute materials -- instead it was for Trump administration insiders to make large hedge bets on tariff refunds.And let's be clear -- "you" did not elect Trump. He was installed by interest groups far above you. Which is why they get what they want and you don't (even if you don't understand that what you want when you want it is retarded).
>>534176829$2 TRILLION / year Democrats Created negative balanceCAN'T BE MAGICALLY FIXED IN 2 weeks or 6 month, cletus. You MORONS think that $2 TRILLION / year can be magically found? Where , growing on trees? It will take a DECADE to fix the economy fixed by the morons and Democrats.>but I repeat myselfOH where are all the jobs???
>>534176799There is a strong argument to be made that Congress isn't spending enough money.
>>534176835Printing does nothing, since the key entitlement driving the debt are adjusted for inflation. You have to actually reform SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and increasingly "everyone gets 100% disability"
>>534176967The government doesn't need to "find" money. It creates the money. It always knows exactly where it is.
>>534176967>OH where are all the jobs???Ask your orange daddy. He's supposed to be creating them.
>>534175049Or we could tax some of the ridiculous amount of paper wealth that has been created since the national debt started growing out of controlhttps://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/our-research/out-of-balance-whats-next-for-growth-wealth-and-debtThis isn't sustainable. We are trying to tax economic productivity to pay for things and allowing paper wealth to grow out of control and create a parasitic upper class who own everything. It's disgusting when you see how it all works.
>>534177014you are retarded
It’s so easy to solve this debt. You just confiscate every last dollar from the ~100 million foreigners squatting in this country and you extort their countries of origin for reparations.
>>534176905A debt crash wouldn't mean you get out from under the boot of big government. Unless the government is overthrown and debt is cancelled, it would mean big government steps harder on your neck until you pay it all off. Jews never forget a debt. Haiti didn't pay off it's "independence debt" to France from 1825 until 1947.
>>534176644>OP Canada flag 11 pbtidIt's a global debt-based economic model, all nations are subservient to ever-expanding debt.If (You) came here to lampoon America for having a gigadebt, nobody cares because every single country on Earth all 160 nations is a slave to central banks. Learn how the system operates and who controls the entirety of it.Global debt topped $255 trillion in 2019 and $350 trillion in 2025, almost four times the amount of all global economic output. The post-1970s global economy is Financialized, all wealth today is generated (no, not by 'capital' 'labor' or 'work') from speculative debt instruments<--none of which existed prior to the 1980s. Total debt levels and deficit spending of the past 30 years has eclipsed that of the past few centuries of western civilization, and absurdly low and negative interest rate borrowing costs have incentivized national governments to no longer borrow on the expectation that they will repay, but rather the expectation that they will refinance.(Except of course in the case of the United States whose USD is the default reserve global currency+debt denomination<--TL/DR entire world not only depends upon but relies on the dollar to stay solvent which it won't be in four years from now and the global debt market confidence won't last that long anyway: Whole system globally is based on *confidence* and belief, do you not get that?)>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating [speculative debt instruments]: basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."---- Nick Dearden, quoted in the film '97% Owned'
>>534176965It CAN BE BALANCED. 1/3 of it is fake banker FED created "debt". 1/3 of it is boomer created "debt" to their own pension funds. Very large expense is Medicare, with majority of expenses there are DRUGS. Big Pharma Drugs are a legal US gv supported monopoly. Trump is working right now to reduce drug prices to 1/10. You idiots are just clueless idiots that can't balance YOUR OWN budget without getting a bailout. None of you should be anywhere close to the gov and especially financial end of it. You are just too stupid.
>>534177018Hang yourself.>>534177175
>>534174794Dude it's already here. I guess it depends on what you mean but at least two living generations, millennials and Gen Z have it worse than previous generations.
>>534177172>If (You) came here to lampoon America for having a gigadebtIf you could read, I'm clearly not. I'm advocating for a total debt default similar to what Hitler did to save the German economy.
>>534176905That's not how this works. The only way to escape it is to acquire foreign citizenship and fuck off before your currency is so worthless and you are so squeezed you're trapped. Like Post Soviet Russia.
>>534176407> anarcho-tyrannyStopped reading. You’re retarded. Also memefag
>>534176612Don’t be so blackpilled. I just didn't list the solutions earlier because of the character limit. Here is the actual way out.First of all, if the economic growth rate exceeds the interest rate, the debt ratio will naturally stabilize. Second, the current political deadlock will likely shift as the boomer generation exits the stage. You’re looking at a generational handoff to the 80s and 90s cohorts within the next 20 years. If that new generation chooses practical compromise over mindless ideological wars, they can actually push through spending cuts and tax reforms at the same time.If that happens, the US isn't going anywhere. So stop worrying. Your country still has enough time for a comeback. (Of course, if those 80s and 90s americans turn out to be total morons, then you’re absolutely screwed)
>>534177113Biden , biden inflation , and biden gas prices. >and DNC Democrats behind him Bankrupted 1/3 of white males owned small businesses . White males owned small businesses used to create 50% of all jobs. Now 1/3 of them are BANKRUPT. That's WHY there aren't any jobs now.You morons shouldn't be on this site. Go back to plebbdit.
>>534176561Hanged* you double decker faggot
>>534172669>>534174119What happens if we just stop paying down the debt?> inb4 wah wah rules based orderOkay, but who can force us to pay?
>>534176829>>534176967>14 pbtid 'the Democrats created'U.S. Congress is a Uniparty.Read my posts upthreadNone of this debt issue----for the United States or any other country----is at all about "one party wants to spend and the other wants to be frugal"That contrast/dichotomy ended four decades ago in every western nation.(If you're still mired in that paradigm in 2026 no matter what country you're from, you're a Brainlet. Not how any of this works)Interest Payments on the debt alone, are sucking away half of U.S. fedgov budget spent each year: it's not even going to 'things'All gov/every gov's spending today, is total creditThat's it that's all
>>534177281How'd that work out for Argentina? Sorry, this Peronist crap doesn't work in the real world.
>>534177405Bond market collapses.
>>534177405Our currency collapses and people can’t buy bread and sugar. Probably a lot of violence and poverty
>>534177470It's either debt-slavery or cancelling the debt and the banks, you decide. Hitler chose not to pay the debts and that's how he pulled the German economy out of the ashes. No other way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhRIL-aCsY
>>534172545Noncesence. They're going to prohibit flow through the Strait for five years while they force the world to come to the US out of desperation. It's building a Greater American project with Venezuela, Greenland, and others based on resources. The NWO is finished and a new arrangement is emerging based on new trade routes and geographic centralization. Ultimately, the US will reindustrialize and be in the business of energy. Problem solved.
>>534177281>14 pbtid OP Canada flag ESL brainlet>muh default muh shitlurrrrrrrrrrWhen the U.S. treasury defaults four years from now that's the end of human economics.Fortunately it won't last that long. Because USD is the global default currency denomination, the entire global debt market relies on confidence in the dollar to remain upright and solvent. (This isn't solely about BRICS either<--all they are able to do is create alternative networks, that they're doing with some effectiveness but it doesn't and can't 'replace' USD)There's no escaping this, not for any nation. Everything in the global debt-based system is interleveraged, massively so at myriad levels and dependent connections.(You) are too fucking goddamned Stupid to either read or comprehend my post replied to.When the global debt market implodes (sooner than four years from now) so goes it all.
>>534172476Federal reserve can just buy it all up, they have infinite dollars.
>>534177139Debt jubilees are a thing. But it needs to be swift and final in order to work.
>>534177123You are right. There are so many paper claims on future productivity, assets, labor, etc. Blood sucking vampires.
>>534177583The US is a monetary sovereign. It doesn't actually need anyone to buy bonds to finance itself.
Extremely low IQ OP topic, and the replies are worse.Incredible that no one on /pol/ can comprehend even a basic plebbitard understanding of 2026 economics or finance.
>>534177680Why would you default when you can inflate?
>>534172669>i've heard scott bussyent and howard nutlick talking about inflating it away,that's definitely the route they are trying. The thing is, for the majority of the population it all ends up in the same place regardless, poverty. Whether it is via austerity or inflated worthless currency.
>>534172476God imagine if the US distributed debt to everyone and called it a day
>>534177680Yup, no way out of this but with some hardship. But overthrowing central banks must be done and the hardship is a necessary sacrifice. Idk what's making you so butthurt
>>5341776735D AI-generated cope.
>>534176733Zimbabwe failed because they lost their source of foreign currency, but the US is in a much weirder spot. Your country’s biggest export isn't crops or tech, it is the Dollar itself. The moment the petrodollar ends and the world stops needing USD as a reserve currency, all those trillions of greenbacks floating abroad will flood back into your domestic market.No amount of internal production can absorb that kind of sudden monetary tsunami.In short, It won't be a land reform that kills you, it will be the loss of the privilege to print the world’s money.
>>534177739>The US is a monetary sovereign. It doesn't actually need anyone to buy bonds to finance itself.It can print the money, sure, but it ends in poverty either way. There is no easy way out of this at this point. The best way would be to slay the medical industry. It will cause a nasty recession in the short to medium term but would fix the country's finances long term. But there is no will to do it so we'll probably get the everyone impoverished outcome.
>>534172476Still 6.27% left to give it to israel
>>534177284Difference this time is that there is nowhere else to go. If America goes down, everywhere else goes down even harder. And at the end of the day, the US still has the people, natural resources, and real wealth to come out on top.>>534177321>government over-taxes and over-regulates the productive in order to give their stolen resources to niggers and criminals.What would you call it then?
>>534177769>why defaultRead my posts upthread. Global system is not only debt-based but entirely depends and relies on a single debt note fiat currency+debt denomination.For both currency transactions, *and* for debt.Why is that important? Because the whole world looks to the UST as the denomination that must remain stable and they retain confidence in. That's the only thing keeping the global debt market intact. Entire worldwide economic system is founded on debt, there's no 'sound money' or 'actual value' to any of it.As said ^^^^ above: from the U.S. fedgov point of view, the annual U.S. Congress-approved budgets of $2 trillion+ are squandered paying $1 trillion of each, just to make Interest Payments on the magnitude of debt itself. Interest Payments alone, are bankrupting the country and Treasury. With the UST as the default denomination of the global debt market, the denomination that all 160 nations in the world "have confidence" in, how long does that last?Keep watching the 10-year treasury bond yields, that the Treasury+Federal Reserve have desperately been trying to stabilize for almost a decade now, and especially over the past three years.
Yeah and 60-70% of their anemic economic growth is AI circlejerk which hedges on AI improving productivity (hasn’t happened, quite the opposite thus far). There’s simply no way out, particularly since USD is increasingly seen as toxic and they won’t be able to offload inflation the way they did.
>>534177825>Hardship Think about how different America is than during the Great Depression. There is no social cohesion anymore. No religion. If real hardship hits there will be riots and violence.
>>534177849I'll take AI slop conjecture over what I read here in le olde echochambre.
>>534177872This is why I'm trying to get out of this country. Even though I would take a large salary and quality of life hit. Trump has accelerated this timeline into what feels like a collapse in the early 2030s, instead of a more gradual decline and possibility of genuine reform that existed before.
>>534177872Money can always be destroyed through debt repayment or taxation. That's the point of having a free-floating currency.The issue with losing reserve currency status is that position prices most things in the world in dollars. So the problem stems from things that aren't produced domestically not theoretically being available.But that assumes that some of these foreign countries won't want to buy anything from the US at all. That may be true, it may not be true, in whole or in part. Foreigners seem to love buying up US real estate and extorting Americans and the American government seems very happy with that arrangement, so I don't know if I am as optimistic (pessimistic?) as you are about foreigners wanting to exit the country.It comes down to real resources.
>>534177825>16 pbtid Canada flag brainlet? Idgaf about (You)r shitty plebbitard OP topic.Central banks control planet Earth, every country+gov all 160 of them. (Canada has a central banker P.M.)Here is the former U.K. prime minister explaining what-who actually runs their country (no, it is not the government or crown):https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/522930520
>>534177997No dude, America is coasting on the exorbitant privilege of dollar dominance and its mid century infrastructure. Modern America would be closer to a Mexico than Canada if it had to be a normal country that had to do things to get foreign reserves.The real human capital in the hard sciences has been in China for the last few years.
>>534178236>Central banks control planet Earth, every country+gov all 160 of themYeah who doesn't know this? This system needs to be overthrown, starting with the US
>>534178303>Modern America would be closer to a Mexico than CanadaBro Canada is basically a 3rd world country too at this point. Economy is shit, infrastructure is crumbling, Indians everywhere including middle of nowehere rural towns, and the Canadian economy is more indebted than America's
>>534178104>There’s simply no way outCorrect. Read upthread^^^^Global economy is now, actually fr, in a 'doom loop' with the largest nation holding the default reserve currency denomination being perceived as insolvent/on the way to insolvency.Entire global economy and finance, wealth generation is founded on and sourced from speculative debt instruments.AI / """""tech""""" is the biggest financial scam in human history, that's all it is. (Nothing to do at all with 'technology') It's the last big moneygrab and bubble-boost before global implosion of the debt market.>"w-we're all gonna be rich 'n' have UBI forevah"
>>534172476I'm pretty sure US debt to GDP has been over 100% for decades. The article in the OP simply reclassified it so they get a headline. @ all the retards in this thread: we live in clown world where debt is strength. Let me explain.Say you're 40T in debt. Your interest rate is 4%. You have to pay 1.6T per year.So you inflate the currency. You reach 7% inflation. Even though you have to pay 4% interest per year, your debt also devalues itself by 7% each year. So you pay 1.6T per year in interest, but your debt devalues itself by 2.8T per year. You end up 1.2T richer. Your citizens suffer a cost of living crisis, you import shitskins to dilute the effects of inflation, and everyone suffers as a result. But not the billionaires, and not the givernment. Because they're all in debt, so it's to their benefit. Welcome to clown world.
>>534178323>18 pbtid Canadatard OPWhen do you oust (You)r central banker P.M.?let us all know Brainlet>'who doesn't know this'Starting with (You)<--that doesn't know or even comprehend what they're posting about,everyone itt
>>534178097>Keep watching the 10-year treasury bond yields, that the Treasury+Federal Reserve have desperately been trying to stabilize for almost a decade now, and especially over the past three years.This, and the wheels are already coming off
>>534178424I think America's demographic situation is worse, especially once all the FOB researchers fuck off once the US no longer produces a superior quality of life or the luddite party just defunds their research because Grok found a naughty word in their abstract. Canada is going to basically do what it's been doing, perhaps brain drain the US, while Americans will probably see 30-50% of their purchasing power evaporate in very short order.
>>534172476The jews jewed our country to death which is why they are trying to implement their South African style gay nigger communism with AI enforcement.
>>534178551>When do you oust (You)r central banker P.M.?Soon. Let's work on it together. You handle the US front, we'll handle the Canadian front. But the US front is the most important, it is the domino that will topple all others
>>534178303>human capital is akshully in ChinaNow you’re just being idiotically pessimistic. All of china’s elite human capital is living in the Bay Area and Boston. So is every other country’s. Every other country is dominated by a bucket-of-crabs mentality and the rule of law barely exists. For as bad as America is right now, it’s worse everywhere else in all the ways that matter.
>>534172476And people wonder why the Americans are currently rolling out the Samson option to the global economy.
>>534178546Central banks control planet Earth, all 160 countries.Private central banks implement the globalist and corporatist agendas. Each nation is simply an economic zone. This is why since the neoliberal 1980s policies began, they have implemented no-borders structures with 'free trade' agreements (NAFTA etc.)(Watch Tucker Carlson's latest interview with Marjorie Taylor Greene, in the monologue he discusses the globalist agenda of no-borders being in league with the ZIonist ethnostate goal.)The end goal of central banks is a private technocratic world panopticon 'government' (roughly modeled on the current CCP in China) that lords over 24-7 a globe of 160 former 'nations' in a borderless, nationless series of economic zones to be exploited, the citizens of each as slaves.
>>534178717Posts from 2019. Check the Nature rankings, industry surveys, and decline in Chinese international student enrollment. The world has changed, Stonewall Jackson.
>>534178641>wheels are already coming offThey've been coming off for at least 3 years running, idk how much longer they can keep the plates spinning to be honest.It's all a question of how much global confidence can be maintained in the debt market.Global debt market is the one to watch
>>534178648The brain drain pipeline already goes from Canada to the US, since there's no point living here if you can get a US job. I graduated from a top Canadian uni, the top 33% in my class got jobs in New York instead of staying here. If the US becomes unlivable then they'll go to the next best place, maybe Hong Kong, but not come back to Canada
>>534178641I would like to see Powell go scorched earth on the administration and address the American people, but the American people would not understand his points. Ultimately, the American public is getting what they voted for good and hard.
>>534178948The one on the left can be used to avoid jail from tax evasion by handing it over to the IRS.The one on the right cannot.
>>534177583>>534177739>>534177912>global debt aka bond marketSee my posts ^^^^upthread.Entire global economy 21st century is founded on debt, and the bond aka debt market is the basis of that.The future of the human race, actually fr, is reliant upon the degree of confidence placed in the global debt market that runs on a single default reserve denomination UST
>>534173271The Japanese government's debt is not a concern because the Bank of Japan lends more than half of it to the government, and the Bank of Japan is owned by the Japanese government. The Japanese economy has been doing well in recent years, with the GDP growth rate exceeding the growth rate of the outstanding government debt. Japanese people's savings are more than twice the government's debt, and Japan lends money to foreign companies, making it the world's largest creditor nation.
>>534178800Within 5 minutes of me explaining debt devaluation, one of you tards on a leash just had to show up. Go away. Stop discrediting me by association.
Here's a prescient December 2019 panel (one month prior to covid<--that was a financial reset, nothing to do with 'virus' or epidemic), worth revisiting on global debt and the default reserve:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMHQaxd5N-QDoug Rdiker, former U.S. representative to IMF executive board:>[on global / IMF national debts and loans] "Borrowing has become a 'costless' exercise in recent decades, where we've seen that: no longer will countries borrow on the expectation that they will repay. They borrow on the expectation that they will refinance. And in a zero, or low, or negative interest rate environment, that's a costless exercisee. You just borrow and, you're actually getting paid (in Germany's case) for the privilege of borrowing. So that's a great thing, but that's not necessarily going to last forever, in fact I would argue it's impossible to believe it's going to last forever. At some point, these low/absurdly low and negative interest rate borrowing costs are going to turn around. And since you're not borrowing on the basis of an ability to repay, rather on the ability to refinance, when those refinancing costs go up: where's the money coming from?"
>>534179686>Doug Rdiker*Rediker
>>534179457>2 pbtid Poland flag 'muh sound money' sub-brainletIt's a global debt-based economic model. There is no 'money' or 'currency' <---neither of those matter. It's all debt
>>534178162All your theories about taxation destroying money or foreigners buying real estate depend on the dollar maintaining its value. But However, we are talking about when the petrodollar collapses. If the petrodollar ends, the very foundation of that trust collapses.The collapse of the petrodollar means the US dollar is now just a local currency that only Americans use. Why would any sane country trade real energy or resources for a useless scrap of paper that only people in your borders care about?You think they buy your real estate because they love America? No, they do it as a store of value. The moment that value starts evaporating, they won't be buying your houses, they will be dumping them as fast as possible.
>>534178959Yes if he brought out his inner Volcker that would be amazing, but ultimately you said it already:>the American public is getting what they voted for good and hard.the American public are childish morons who believe in Unicorns who fart free money and no consequences ever
>>534174119Forgot boomers transferring generational wealth where in 1980 under 30s controlled 20% of all household wealth and over 55s 35%. Which today stands at 4% for under 30s and 51% for over 55s.Can't blame a farmer for fertilising fallen fruit, it's his farm.
>>534173045>>534173271>>534173306>>534174136Best thread I've read this month.
>>534179895the American public and most anons itt don't even comprehend or understand the first thing about how the global debt-based system operates,let alone what money even is or how it is created.Mandatory viewing for everyone (send these to everyone):The Money Delugehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs97% Owned — how is money createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yoprofessor Werner brilliantly explains how the banking system and financial sector really workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0G7pY4wRE>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating [speculative debt instruments] —basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."— Nick Dearden, quoted in the film '97% Owned'
>>534172669Why don't we plunder all of Iran's resources? We're already at war with them.
>>534180456We (NATO) spent trillions and we couldn't even plunder Afghanistan's resources
>>534174119All usery profits should be taxed at a minimum rate of 50%. The Federal Reserve creates money out of thin air and gifts it to the banks.>QE = The Fed will buy banks' shittiest under-performing assets with printed money>if banks park that printed money at the Fed they pay an interest rate on that printed money with more printed money>same thing with overnight reverse reposOn top of all this money printing at the Fed, banks go on to create more money out of thin air with the fractional reserve mechanism. Currently 90% of US money has been created out of thin air like this by the banking system, with banks getting all the seigniorage on that (profit for minting money). The other 10% is actual currency that the Treasury got the face value amount as seigniorage on. I hope everyone can see the problem with this discrepancy. We let banks create money out of thin air and take profits on that while the government goes into an ever-growing amount of debt, pretending it has to borrow the money we let banks print for free. It does not have to be like this.The Fed was created to preempt an attempt at another National Bank which involves the government having an ownership stake in banking and getting returns on the usery process. Simply taxing the shit out banks under the current system would achieve the same effect. There also needs to be a hard look at the QE they did during COVID which is entirely the cause of the subsequent inflation (picrel). There was absolutely no justification for inflating the money supply by 40% in an economy that's in a partial structural shut down due to lock downs and a reduction in international trade. Anyone can put two and two together and realize that printing fucktons of money wouldn't open up closed shops and ports. So that was one of the biggest wealth transfers from consumers around the entire world to the elite via the inflation tax. Powell and the Fed should be investigated for this.
>>534177338We're not letting those fat, basedboy consoomer retards of the 80's and 90's take over, they'll fucking turn this place into a socialist brazil hellhole. A millenial U.S at this time would be murdered, nothing could be more weak, gay, and retarded.I think it's nothing but war here, koreanon. Radicalized Zoomers will get it done.This time do it right.
>>534174585>Monetary sovereigns are not revenue constrained. They do not need to collect any taxes in order to spend.Such an open system construction cannot exist for long as faith in the monetary system wanes.
>>534180804>QE they did during COVIDin mid-2019 the global investment banks suddenly (not really, anomalies were observed since at least spring 2018) had an overnight repo problem: These are the payments that the investment banks 'swap' each other in order to cover the actual commercial-retail transactions made 24-7 at all business and with individuals throughout the country regionally and locally. Starting in September they had a full on emergency, even Elizabeth Warren was on Capitol Hill "wtF is going on here." Hundreds of billions $$$$$ in bailouts forked over to the investment bank to keep their overnight repo operations solvent, almost $1T by end of the year.Magically though in Jan 2020-later along came the never-before-in-human-history global lockdowns, and with that another $12 trillion in liquidity to keep the global investment bank black box gigacasino afloat:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMkq75L5n_k
>>534180456Look.at this faggotWhere did all the oil in Iraq go to?Turkey and Haifa.
>>534180456Ask Russia why they can't plunder Ukraine. Just because you invade a country doesn't mean its people will cooperate with you. Russia has had credit card levels of interest rate for years now.
>>534172476The last 1000 days of judaism are upon us
>>534172572No, we all pretty much universally want spending cuts, but our faggot ass corrupt uniparty votes against the interest of the American citizens.Quit believing news headlines you retarded faggot fuck. You bongs need to be bullied harder.
>>534175456Actually a government issuing its own money is anti-semitic, governments are not allowed to do that, they have to borrow money into existence from Jews.
>>534180626that doesnt sound like much when you consider america is worth 270 trillion
>>534176498>Defaulting won't kill the country, but keeping this debt will just make every single one of you poorer every year. Defaulting is simply missing a payment. The debt doesn't go away and 70% of it is owned domestically. A debt reset would be a massive haircut for financial institutions and they'd never allow that since they effectively own the government. An overt default would be a financial apocalypse, not just for the US but for the entire globe if the US were to miss a single payment, never mind trying to erase any of the principle. And the bankers and institutions that own the majority of the debt would never agree to taking a haircut on it.>And what’s the brilliant plan? Print more? Every time that printer goes brrr, inflation destroys your purchasing power.The printer goes brrr only for the banks. Well, 90%. The other 10% is physical cash that the government got to print but that's only like 2.4 trillion which is like 1 year's worth of deficit.This is a big part of the reason we are so in the hole though. Congress gave away our government's sovereign right to mint currency to the banks in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act, which was coupled with the federal income tax in the same exact year. This was tantamount to treason and they only got away with it because the banking system is too complex for an average person to understand and get outraged about. Now this system is entrenched and the money printer go brrr class would fight tooth and nail to keep it with all of their printed trillions.Since a debt reset of some kind will be required anyway, they are going to plan for it and do a rug pull. The institutions won't be the ones to take a haircut on the debt so someone else has to. One way they could pull this off is with a conversion to CBDC were some fraction of all exchanged dollars is used to pay down the debt. So basically confiscating a portion of citizens' wealth across the board and giving it to the bankers.
>>534180626they were plundered, it just benefited the usual suspects. Unless you believe that the flood of prescription opiods that showed up at the same time were a coincidence
>>534179457Does someone have the meme where this whole picture is being used by another fbi agent? Its funny and i want it
>>534182156Spending a few trillion in Afghanistan when you only have 270 actually does sound like a lot, especially when 270 trillion isn't cash that can be spent and includes things like buildings and untapped natural resources
>>534180183it's low effort chatEBT trash
>>534182223>a conversionNone of your textwall is going to occur. Entire world depends and relies on UST default reserveread my posts ^^^upthreadThere's not going to be a """"tech"""", kek 'solution' to any of this.
>>534182236Yeah but I think anon meant plundering Iran's mineral wealth, and we couldn't plunder any of Afghanistan's mineral wealth after spending trillions. You're right though
>>534172476for the last 100+ years Repugs have FAILED on EVERY economic metric except one - making the rich richer, and yet the proles keep falling for 'muh tax cuts create jobs' propaganda and voting for them over and over
>>534172669kind of misleading to show absolute numbers, money is not a fixed quantity, should be normallized to % of GDP, but point nonetheless stands that repugs suck at econ 101
>>534175298Nigger this was literally done by boomers.
>>534172476So kill the people responsible. Not a single US citizen in this country who isn't a broen or jew wants this.
>>534176606>Congress acts as a Uniparty, that is visible no more clearly in their lockstep approval of massive deficits and increasing the national debt by $2 trillion per year for decades.except that Dems beat repugs on debt and jobs
>>534172476This is what they voted for.
>>534172683do you think china wants your shitfuck trump coin instead of the promised money?the dealer doesnt accept pocket sand
If only we would get rid of the 500 billion a year fraud, US wouldn't have a deficit.
>>534182223>Congress gave away our government's sovereign right to mint currency to the banksI don't think this would make much of a difference in practice, Congress already has oversight of the Fed and the Fed acts within laws chartered by Congress. The Fed is more like the mechanics of how the problem has grown so large, not the ultimate source. >Since a debt reset of some kind will be required anyway, they are going to plan for it and do a rug pull. This is my conclusion as well. There is no other way out at this point, this currency system has reached the end of its life and will be retired. Current dollars will be exchanged for new dollars (CBDC or traditional, not as important as some think as our money is already essentially electronic), and there will be some kind of conversion with haircut that will screw the middle class. Why the middle class? Because the rich insiders will be given foreknowledge of the plan and will position themselves accordingly, and the poor don't have savings anyway and don't give a shit, they will be bought off with gibs as usual. Only the middle class has the combination of aggregate wealth without aggregate political power. Of course they won't call it this, but that's what it will be. Could be as simple as an "bail-in" of 401k funds into new US Gov debt instruments, and it will probably be engineered so that many people want it at the moment, like after a crash.
>>534183085That wouldn't even pay for half of the yearly INTEREST payments, let alone the debt
>>534182931>This is what they voted for.magatards didnt really vote 'for' anything, they only voted to fuck shit up, it was pure nihilism, so in that sense they kind of did get what they voted for
>>534178112>If real hardship hitsWhen* real hardship hitsIt’s going to happen
>>534182597>Wall of text>No sourceshello communist, making up numbers again I see.
>>534182931Trump hasn’t kept a single promise. The democrats at least throw the people a few bones. He’s only sucked jew cawk every day.
>>534172476How much of this debt is from wars Netanyahu has dragged the US into?
>>534183273its not my fault you are illiterate
Who do we owe trillions to exactly?Trump should cut off all foreign insurance companies and bring that money back into the US that gets extracted from all people who have insurance. Also the fed was supposedly meant to pay down the debt w\ extra money but they don't seem to have done that.
>>534183336A few trillions at least
>>534172476Dow is at ATH.
>>534183332>Trump hasn’t kept a single promise. The democrats at least throw the people a few bones. He’s only sucked jew cawk every day.he kept his promise to Israel, that is all that counts in the Land of ZOG, the Project 2025 bait and switch was just for giggles and to fluff the billionaires and keep them quiet
>>534181340This is just fear mongering right wing garbage pushed by people who don't actually produce anything and want guaranteed returns for nothing.If goods and services exist then the money is good.
>>534183373Must be nice to live in a fantasy world divorced from reality.
>>534172572>americans cannot compute that tax cuts without spending cuts is just a tax on future generationstax cuts on future low income generations
>>534183379To Jews mostly.
>>534183104>'the plan'>no other way out at this pointThere isn't a 'way out' or 'plan' (least of all a """tech""" one). Not how the global debt works. See aboveDebt is a one-way trip.The reason no one itt comprehends what is occurring, is because this isn't a 'fate of the United States' topic.Stop framing it in terms of:>what happens to the U.S. / its gov / its treasuryThe incoming total collapse of human civilization, is because the worldwide reliance on a single debt denomination as the default reserve unit has never existed before in human history. That's the uniqueness of this situation. It's not just about the United States / the 'American empire' (in purported comparison with muh roman empire etc.)This is the end of the world, fr when the global UST-based debt market implodes. It's over
>>534183509>Must be nice to live in a fantasy world divorced from reality.the reality is Repugs FAIL ON EVERY ECONOMIC METRIC FOR THE LAST 100 YEARS EXCEPT ONE - MAKING THE RICH RICHER, stuff that into your AI and let us know
>>534179869Plenty of people trade resources for yen, won, Australian dollars, Canadian dollars, euros, etc.If the US doesn't have resources the rest of the world wants, they won't want to hold dollars or will want to hold less of them. The US will be forced to re-balance its economy on domestic production. In some areas this is probably rather easily accomplished, in others it will be extremely challenging.Now I think it would be positive for the US to have foreigners and foreign capital decoupled from the economy. Current asset holders feel otherwise, but catering the economy to placating asset holders is a structural problem not a benefit to the ordinary American who would be much better off with heavy investment into infrastructure and technologies that increase supply and lower input burdens (the Richard Werner prescription).
>>534172476Let's establish a few things in a language our retarded politicians can understand.1. You cannot grow your way out of this with trickle down economics. It's too big.2. You can't keep shoveling more and more money into healthcare and the military with the kind of results it's giving. Something is broken in those two systems that no amount of additional money can fix.3. There is rampant fraud, kickbacks, and corruption of which you are at least complicit in.
>>534172572Imagine the boomerdeathkino poorfagdeathkino if you suddenly removed the all that social security and medicare. Most that shit is just boomer and poorfag care, right?>>534172669>WTF happened in 1971Every single time.
>>534177245I think he means real hardship, where as you're thinking $10+ Big Macs hardship
>>534183754You need a bottom-up job guarantee program focused on local infrastructure and upkeep.
>>534172476We are fucked as soon as the interest surpasses the tax revenue. Total economic death.
>>534183983
>>534184020I long for the day people get their heads put on pikes for this.
>>534183983SS and Medicare must be reformed.
>>534183983>interestCorrect. Interest Payments on the debt have doomed the U.S. Treasury to total default, it is the most-not-talked-about issue of our time.Graph 1 >>534176320Graph 2 >>534178097Graph 3 >>534176879No "change" will occur until U.S. Congress reduces fedgov spending. That is not going to happen.
>>534184205The US can't default. It can always afford anything that is 1) for sale and 2) priced in its own currency. Is there any argument that social security and medicare payments are priced in US dollars? No. Is there any argument that those receiving them currently will not want to receive them in the future? No.
>>534172476Inflate the debt away, obviously. Ideally, radically under-report inflation so that any debts tied to inflation will fall off as well.The real economy will suffer, but we knew that when we let women and niggers join. The ONLY way to protect wealth (not standard of living, that may not be possible) going forward is to radically outpace inflation.
>>534184326>23 pbtidRead this --------- >>534183655
>>534184326To clarify, in case it isn't clear, Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid don't actually need to be funded through payroll taxes. Bush 43's prescription drug plan (Medicare Part D) never has funding issues. Why is that? Because when it was passed it was specifically designated to be funded through "general revenue". What does that mean? It means issued money.They can change the way SS/Medicare is funded any time they want. They don't because they want to get rid of it. It's a political desire, not a structural necessity. The government can never run out of its own money. It spends its own money unit into existence.The only limit is real resources.
>>534174794>At some point americans are going to experience a few generations of hardship. I know thats unfathomable for americans but its coming whether they like it or not. You didnt think the gravy train would last forever did youwith Trump and the repugs it is inevitable, kind of sad it happens on the 250th
>>534172476America said no transgender can have consensual sex with republicans that contempt any sort of sex with deviated people which can include a minor or even since such, multipleForsaken was Epstein island where secular and sole Republicans hung out on. The Republican Party everyone.
>>534183686Communists like you should vote republican then as a collapsing economy is what communists love the most. Oh wait, that's why you only vote blue no matter who since GOP fixes all your retarded failed economics. KEK.
>>534184529>government can never run out of its own money>'own money'Government can never outrun its own debt.Particularly the United States, on whose default reserve currency UST denomination the entire worldwide debt-based economic model relies.This isn't just solely about the (fate of) the United States.It's as though anons itt are illiterate.The 'money' belongs to the private central banks. The debt is (thanks to their nations' treasuries, complicit collaborating with central banks) on the backs of all sovereign citizens.
4chan /pol/ Thread Analysis: 534172476 (posted ~April 30, 2026)Title/theme: "US debt hits 100 percent of GDP" (reacting to a WSJ screenshot showing publicly held debt at $31.265T vs. trailing GDP of $31.216T as of March 31).The thread has ~50–60 replies (typical short-to-medium /pol/ lifespan). Tone is classic /pol/: blackpilled, conspiratorial, shitposting-heavy, with heavy antisemitism, generational/racial blame, and memes. Economic discussion is real but filtered through low-trust, tribal lenses. No consensus beyond "it's fucked."Main Points Discussed The 100% debt-to-GDP milestone as a breaking point OP posts official numbers and frames it as a new crisis. Posters debate if it's truly "new" (some note it's been over 100% before on total debt metrics) vs. the publicly held portion now crossing the line. Interest payments are repeatedly called the real killer (already rivaling defense budget, projected to explode). Unsustainability and lack of easy exits Cannot "grow out of it" (even with AI boom or tax cuts). Inflation/money printing as the default "solution" but still destroys savers. Spending cuts dismissed as politically impossible (entitlements, military, healthcare). Debt is framed as a one-way trip leading to default, reset, or "end of the USD reserve system." Wealth vs. GDP and tax code critiques One poster (verbatim from our conversation) argues there's far more private/corporate wealth than annual GDP and lists concrete collection methods: raise payroll/wealth taxes, eliminate step-up basis, raise capital gains/real estate gains, end bonus depreciation, end SALT, tax student-loan servicing banks, etc. Calls the tax code "filled with faggotry" that insiders exploit while average people don't understand it. Blame and conspiracy angles
>>534172914Generally the response you get toward matters of debt is that debt is fake unless it's about the US then it's suddenly real. Japan has over twice the debt to GDP that the US has for nearly 20 years now yet immediately the kneejerk response is always 'it's publicly held' so is US debt yet someone the US debt is cataclysmic. Money isn't real, resources are and there's no end to them in the US, eventually those companies that can't pay debt will end up seized by feds since it's all publicly owned anyway.
Posters' Positions (Categorized) Doomers (dominant majority, ~60–70% of serious replies): It's over. Interest will eat the budget default or hyperinflation. No political will for real fixes. "We are fucked as soon as interest surpasses tax revenue." Global debt collapse framing from a few ("end of the world, not just US"). Blame-assigners / scapegoaters (overlaps heavily with doomers): Antisemitic core: OP sets the tone; many pile on ("Jews own the debt," "ZOG," "Jews are getting PAID"). Boomers/entitlements ("anyone collecting SS"). Uniparty/Congress, women, non-whites, illegals. Some partisan jabs at both sides (Repugs fail on metrics except enriching rich; Dems throw "bones"). Reformists / tax-focused (small but detailed minority): The exact post listing wealth-tax ideas, capital gains changes, etc. ("real economic solutions aren’t as sexy as blaming jews, women, and blacks"). Calls for fraud cuts ($500B/year), military/healthcare efficiency, ending tax "fictions" like accelerated depreciation. Monetary Sovereign / MMT types (vocal minority): "US government issues the currency, it doesn't borrow it." Taxes aren't revenue for spending; they're an inflation brake. Fed is Congress's agent. Debt in USD can't truly default. Often dismissed by doomers as cope. Conspiracy / rug-pull believers (prominent cluster): Direct quotes mirroring our chat: "debt reset... currency system has reached the end of its life... middle class gets the haircut... 401k bail-in... insiders position themselves." Planned elite heist post-crash. Trolls / off-topic: Mint-the-coin jokes, "sell debt to Indian agencies," pure memes, or unrelated race-baiting.No one is changing minds — it's mutual venting with charts and GIFs.
>>534184852>JapanPrinces of the Yenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY
>>534172476They can print usd and pay debts, its fiat currency anyway
>>534183743The US has used its reserve currency privilege to treat the world’s resources like they were free. The moment you drop to a local currency level, that massive overconsumption habit will hit a brick wall.Do you honestly think a mere local currency can support your insane level of consumption?The moment you lose that exorbitant privilege, you won't be able to afford the energy or basic imports you take for granted. Your domestic production won't save you because by the time you rebuild it, your society will already be in total chaos and rioting over the sudden poverty
>>534184841>>534184915Educational interview to take notes on with professor Richard Werner:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/511622826must-watch for all anons ittStudy this interview
>>534184953>printAll 'printing' = Debt
identify the most knowledgeable poster in the thread and summarize their pointsMost knowledgeable poster in the thread: wOnLbmf8 (posts including >>534174119 and >>534183104)This anon stands out clearly above the rest for depth, specificity, and realism. While the thread is full of memes, antisemitic scapegoating, Hitler references, and vague "it's over" doomerism, this poster actually engages with real fiscal mechanics, the tax code's actual loopholes, wealth stocks vs. GDP flows, and political incentives without descending into pure conspiracy or race-baiting. Their posts are the closest thing to a serious policy discussion in a sea of venting.Summary of their key points: Wealth stock >> GDP flow The US has enormous accumulated private/corporate wealth (far beyond annual GDP). This creates multiple realistic avenues for revenue that politicians ignore because they aren't emotionally satisfying. Concrete revenue/tax code reforms (the most detailed and knowledgeable part of the thread) They listed specific, targeted changes that would actually hit the big pots of wealth: Raise payroll taxes Implement a wealth tax Eliminate step-up in basis for financial assets (a major loophole for inherited wealth) Raise taxes on real estate capital gains Raise long-term capital gains rates Raise taxes on banks servicing student loans Eliminate amortization/bonus depreciation for capital assets (called "the great gay tax fiction" — i.e., accelerated write-offs that let corporations front-load deductions) Eliminate the SALT deduction
>>534185097https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HKc6Y-4O0kY
So the 1% own 30% of the money supply and the top 10% own 70% of the money supply, but we must cut benefits that barely exist and raise taxes to pay off a debt that can't be paid off because we don't have jobs anymore?I mean, even from the perspective of swlf interest, the mega rich are essentially fucked.
We need this debt to protect Israel and gays you bigot
>>534184391This would hurt people who are rich and storing money abroad illegally and crash the housing market.
>>534184625???Democratic-socialism /= Communism.See, 90% of Europe...
>>534172476Blessings of israel, christcucks
>>534182875>Anonymous (ID: k7TFBPGI) 11 pbtid sub-brainlet>muh team sports politicsU.S. Congress approves and controls fedgov spending,and votes in unison as a Uniparty.>jobsWealth isn't created in the debt-based global economy by muh 'work', 'capital' or 'jobs'>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating [speculative debt instruments]: basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."— Nick Dearden, quoted in the film '97% Owned'Refer to documentary films posted ^^^upthread>debtAll governments (irrespective of 'political team parties') are sustained by debt and founded on debt. All wealth today is generated from speculative debt instruments.Reference 1 >>534177172Reference 2 >>534179686It's all Debt. That's it that's all
>>534172476>Financial 'stress'> "We just owe more money than our entire net value. Just a little spot of 'stress'">"Oooo nooo! Don't worry! Its just a little twinge of the brow, a little tummy ache, a growing pain! Hush now, hush hush."Why must everything be so fake and gay.If this were in reference to some random individual's economic situation, they'd correctly diagnose it as absolutely, hilariously fucked.
>>534185015>The moment you lose that exorbitant privilege, you won't be able to afford the energy or basic imports you take for granted.I'm not sure I agree with this. There's certainly no shortage of natural gas here in the country. I think it's like 90%+ of the supply is domestic. There are all kinds of structural steps the state could take to radically alter consumption patterns of substitute materials. I don't think it would be easy, but it's not insurmountable. Existing inflows of rentier income are the actual hold up, not technological development.
>>534185199>I mean, even from the perspective of swlf interest, the mega rich are essentially fucked. They are banking on the idea that they can pull off a “great reset” to kill off 60%+ of humanity while getting robots/AI/a relatively small managerial class to maintain the quality of life that they’re used to
>>534185452None of that is going to occur.One day, anons itt / 4chan is going to wake up and there won't be an internet.That is how this Debt World, the global debt-based economic model is going to end. Suddenly with a whimper everything goes blackfinito
>>534185411>and votes in unison as a Uniparty.brainlet simplificationfinancialization is the dominant profit center now, but that does not obviate the need to focus on jobs
>>534185447The USA doesn’t produce shit anymore. Take a look around your house, what do you see that was made in America other than your walls?
>>534185312>Renamed the same system and thinks people are gullible enough to believe it's totally different.Try harder. At least find a thesaurus and change up the wording of the talking points.
>>534185623>Anonymous (ID: k7TFBPGI) 12 pbtid 'obviate'All wealth in this world in (You)r reality, is generated from speculative debt instruments, the currency is debt notes from private central banks.Nothing is real except Debt itself.Read my posts in the thread. U.S. gov spending for more than three decades is Uniparty approved to grow the government. Wealth doesn't come from 'jobs' it comes from speculative debt instruments (AI scam is just the latest financial scam) (You) don't know what the word financialization actually means, (You) are an Actual Dumb Fuck.Educate (You)rself, *brainlet*.
>>534185411poster iiuGtm1f IQ EstimateRoughly 125–135 range (well above average /pol/ user).Strengths: Strong grasp of monetary mechanics (repo crisis, interest crowding out, reserve currency dynamics, financialization), coherent long-form writing, ability to tie together history + current data, and consistent internal logic.Weaknesses: Heavy apocalyptic framing (“end of the world”), repetitive dismissal of any counter-arguments or nuance, and a conspiratorial/monetary-reform lens that treats the entire system as an inevitable Ponzi with no realistic off-ramps.They’re one of the sharper “informed doomers” in the thread — far more substantive than the average rage-poster, but still operating in a very blackpilled, no-exit worldview. If wOnLbmf8 was the most policy-knowledgeable poster we identified earlier, iiugtm1f is the most articulate global debt-collapse evangelist.
>>534174832>>534176498Y'all say "they" like the collapse of America won't bring down your countries with it. The question is what are WE gonna do. We're all in this together.
>>534185815do me next chatgpt
>>534185635The thing made in America is often simultaneously the most expensive but also pretty badly made.
>>534185806>Nothing is real except Debt itself.lay off the meth, you are trapped in absolutist thinkingget a real job
>>534185815>the entire system as an inevitable PonziIf it's possible to disprove ^that thesis feel free to do so.Everyone itt needs to watch the films / interviews:1. >>5341802342. >>534185051 <--study and take notes (I need to watch a third time)
>>534185953(You) lost, shill.
>>534185773When the fuck did /pol/ get so bad that we are posting actual boomer Facebook memes? Jesus Christ.
>>534185903Tone is highly conspiratorial, aggressive, and unapologetically antisemitic. They quote and dunk on other anons frequently, using terms like “you niggas,” “Jewish distraction,” and dismissing counter-arguments.Seriousness EstimateHigh conviction (8/10) — This is not light trolling. They are consistent, post repeatedly with the same thesis, and treat the topic as an existential civilizational issue requiring radical action (default + regime change). However, the seriousness is ideological/activist rather than analytical — they’re pushing a worldview, not engaging in nuanced policy debate.IQ EstimateRoughly 115–125 range (solidly above average for /pol/ but not elite). Strengths: Clear writing, multi-post threading, ability to tie historical examples (Hitler, Haiti debt) to current events, and staying on-message. Weaknesses: Heavy confirmation bias, repeated logical leaps (default = easy win, Jews control everything), ignores counter-evidence (e.g., domestic ownership of most U.S. debt, Japan’s high debt without collapse, real economic trade-offs of default). The extreme scapegoating replaces deeper economic reasoning.Comparison to others in the thread:Unlike wOnLbmf8 (policy/tax details) or iiugtm1f (global monetary mechanics), lb90c5ij is the classic /pol/ antisemitic agitator — energetic and committed, but their analysis is almost entirely filtered through “it’s the Jews” rather than fiscal arithmetic or monetary theory. They’re a true believer in the radical solution, not a detached observer.
>>534186032>(You) lost, shill.thanks for the thread
>>534186208I already know and dc that 4chan is nothing but datamining
>>534185773Marx was a fucking retard and a grifter JEW. Lenin murdered millions of people. So did Stalin and Mao. They only achieved any success at all by grifting and murdering everyone. That's all communism/socialism does. It tears down everything good and destroys it. It's a cancer. It isn't about equity. it isn't about workers, or minorities or anything but control.I love dead jews. Christianity in both its spiritual and secular form made White people believe, that killing you're racial enemies is evil, when it is infact good. Jews getting killed is morally a good thing, without jews there wouldn't be what is today dozen forms of slavemorality, so the more jews getting killed the better it is to live in. The jews have always been enemies of Europeans. The jews created ideologies to make the strong and righteous feel bad about being superior. Total jew death
The deficit exists because of the treasury and bond market. It's money that amerimutts let the government borrow
>>534172476Who do we owe all this fake money too?
It's around 130 trillion if you include all future obligations financial or not.https://www.us-debt-clock.com/unfunded-liabilities
>>534186629Private central banks.(not just Americans, all sovereign citizens of every nation on Earth)
>>534186824>35 pbtid
>>534186948Still ruled by a fr central banker.
>>534174994>If the increased revenue pays down the debt the dollar gets stronger and purchasing power goes up and my life improves.your purchasing power will be on foreign goiods ONLY. Nothing on the shelf at the store or at McDonalds will go down in price to meet anything. Sticky pricing. Now, if McDonalds gets paid with dollars that are worth more? They're happy about that. But don't EVER think you can "buy more". American businesses don't work like that.
>>534187108>now 36 pbtidI'm just trolling you lol but you don't even get it. Idk why you write pbtid or what it's supposed to mean
>>534174994>>534187196Gov spending only increases Interest Payments on the debt (that itself simply increases in magnitude)Inflation, yes as a side effect but the core dynamic is the debt-based economic model that must continually increase debt, and spending/money creation to survive.Read the posts itt, watch the documentaries ('The Money Deluge')."more money" only means more Interest Payments and more debt.think you're somehow "rich"? The last decade for feeling/thinking that was 1990s (and even by then it was a fading characteristic). Everything is Debt nowWant things to actually change (for the better)?Get the U.S. Congress to reduce spending:and by consequence of that action, the Treasury+central bank to stop continually increasing 'moneyprinting'.$1.5 trillion new military budget request.
>>534187449It keeps track of how much content-free upload each anon makes
>>534187599>37 pbtidWow
>>534187641Sry you were too dumb to comprehend the topic of (You)r own OP
>>534174547Not that simple, Rabbi. And after your little Masonic stageplay between Powell & Trump, "Fed independence" will be demanded by the vax crowd who don't understand the implications. You will see to that.
>>534187735>39 pbtidcrazy
>>534174832Digital surveillance money
>>534174976Inb4 "You lost tranny"
>>534174547>Anonymous (ID: hYaTyaDd)>'money is a creature of the state' <--Fucking kek>25 pbtid MMT shillbot 'do not understand the Fed'(You) comprehend it least of all itthttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/451293951
>>534172669>but that will never workshhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHnobody will notice
>>534172572No, it's completely computed; the childless people doing it know they won't be around when the system collapses.
>>534174119How about we lower spending first before we try to steal more from the last few people working in this country?
>>534175945To be left holding the bag for you after decades of your Jew tribe running the Fed into a cataatrophe.
