It's a common opinion that you should stop wasting time and start working on your life. That might be sound advice, but I'm not sure, because it's essentially a very utilitarian mindset. The way I see it there is the mundane, and there is escape from the mundane. But not all escape from the mundane is equal. There is the degenerate kind, video games, cooming, drinking, mindless slop entertainment etc. But there is a totally different type of escape from the mundane, in cultivating the intellect, where your mind moves from the realm of the mundane into the realm of eternal ideas. This is what the elite do in their education. And when you have a lot of garbage in the physical aspect of your life, you need to "get yourself together", you can ask yourself, under communism did people have to worry about investment for retirement and a hundred other things, did they need to spend a whole day to find the perfect shoe, or were they free to spend their time reading poetry or whatever instead? Point being, is it always really so much a lack of getting yourself together that's what's going on when things are shit, or is it the system? And are you really meant to make an effort to push yourself into the mundane? Maybe it's the universe pushing souls away from the mundane, but the problem isn't people seeking an escape, but rather that they're seeking the wrong type of escape? Is it actually degenerate to have a desire to escape the mundane, if the way you do it is by stimulating the mind with eternal questions, with ideas, the type of stuff the classical liberal arts deal with, which liberate your mind from the mundane?
>>534178667Bump. Interesting post, is intellectual masturbation better for you than physical cooming? Idk man, i do both and i have a purpose (im slacking). But your OP reminded me of something today and i will create an incentive machine to get back on track.
>>534178667I like to write mythic poems from mundane things in life. Using the creative force inside you is the real path in the ever lasting pursuit of happiness. Whether it's raw material into functional things or squeezing emotions and memories through the lens of whimsy the act of transformation is what brings us closer to ourselves. Not for the ego or pride of doing it or even the economics. Just being present and creating. The most profound truths in life are always the most simple. And also the most humbling.
>>534179197That's not what I'm saying. "Intellectual masturbation" is what those brainwashed into a utilitarian mindset think of intellectual cultivation. The truth however is that there are two types of learning, learning for utility and learning for intellectual cultivation. In Medieval Europe this was the distinction between the utilitarian or servile arts on the one hand, and the seven liberal arts on the other hand. The slave class did the former, the elite the latter. The slave learned in order to be a more productive slave. The aristocrat learned in order to liberate his mind from the mundane, hence the word "liberal" in "the seven liberal arts". The Prussian education system, which is the education system we have had since the 19th century, is about making over 99 percent of people serve a utility, while giving less than one percent of people a liberal education or classical education, ie an education that liberates their mind from the mundane.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAp8hX0U-jwhttps://www.zhibit.org/diemythographer/die-mythographer-die/occasional-letter-number-one-2006>"We want one class to have a liberal education. We want another class, a very much larger class of necessity, to forego the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks."-Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, in a speech to businessmen, and from an address to The New York City High School Teachers Association, Jan. 9th, 1909.https://youtu.be/upFxaYnrs-A&t=560
>>534178667> And are you really meant to make an effort to push yourself into the mundane?Very few people in the history of this planet don't live mundane lives day to day. Stop crying and get a job hippie.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/11937/11937-h/11937-h.htm#ch26https://youtu.be/IvYaOtciyfk&t=18430
>>534180081Zero relevance to the topic at hand. Your post is a good example of what happens when a person has zero knowledge of the liberal arts and has been brainwashed into being purely utilitarian, namely the inability to hold ideas in a space that is outside the ego and detached from the person who presents the idea, and that's exactly the type of thing I was talking about, the realm of pure ideas, forever alien and inaccessible to the utilitarian mind, and he remains a slave as a result.
>>534180911>no, MOOOMMMMMMM!!!! I'm NOT gonna get a job!! I have a duty to not live the mundane!!>continues to do nothing, ever
>>534179512Yes, but I fail to see the relevance to the OP. The idea that people have isn't that you need to stop wasting time on mindless things and start cultivating the intellect, it's that you should stop wasting time on things that don't make you richer and start doing things that make you richer. It's always "stop playing video games and get a degree so you can buy a house", it's never "stop playing video games and begin studying Latin and Euclid's Elements".
>>534181241I am not the topic. Learn basic logic.
>>534181713>I'm not the topic, despite modeling my pathetic life after the topicok
>>534178667I can’t even walk down the street without being harassed what am I supposed to do
>>534181964You are completely incapable of intellectual discourse. It's sad when you see how dumbed down people are.
>>534182581What's your point?
>>534182797>I'm AKTCHUALLY so le HECKIN smart for refusing to do anything with my life
>>534183220Seriously, study logic and critical thinking. It will elevate your mind and your life beyond what you can imagine. It's deliberately suppressed from people in order to enslave them. I suggest you begin here:https://youtu.be/U3Jm8zF7bJ8?&t=2857After that you can read this:https://archive.org/details/artoflogicalthin00atki
>>534183492What do you do to provide for yourself?
>>534183220I am not the topic. Don't post again until you have studied those links.
