I personally think its as high as 65%, maybe even higher. The majority of people could stop working and nothing would happen. If anything things would even be more efficient.
>>534204972No such thing as bullshit job, except government jobs
>>53420497275% of all fast food jobs could go away and literally every part of society would benefit
>>534204972Most office jobs are absolute bullshit.If you're not involved in making shit or moving shit around, then your job is bullshit.And those are the people who earn the most. Fucking laughable.
>>534204972Bullshit book written by a jew
>>534205089You get paid the big bucks for being a good little goy.
>>534205078What? You want to take women out of fast food making jobs and have them make food for their family instead? How dare you!
>>534204972Program and project managers can get fucked. Get a real job.
>>53420497295%
>>534205160Yup in Soviet Russia, the biggest psycophants of the communist party had a white collar job lined up for them.
>>534204972
>>534205020>memeflag Gov jobs are more than 40 percent of the U.S. economy
>>534204972bullshit is on the demand side, not the supplythere are so many markets that justify themselves as a frivolous venture, by delusion about this realityeverything must be done; service, goods must existvalue being elevated by means not strictly utilitarian is fundamental to current econbasing an economy on the idea of demand existing before supply is reactive and irresponsibleyou learn languages efficiently by seeking summary and not infantile adaptationyou get smart people not by trade schools and curriculum but from trivium and investigationso you get economics because people find manure grows plants, instead of people feeding a hungry plant who the fuck thought it was a stable idea to instead of value time or labour more, say they should dropship manufactured knick-knacks or cottage industry baubles over something so logistically evolutionary as Amazon?well I am posting like this on the internetI do what I want, and nobody's willing to concede that it's the bullshit which layer cakes into being that necessity of expression of necessity
>>534204972The jobs aren't bullshit; job duties are. Most supervisors get to be supervisors based on just about anything but qualifications. Most jobs today are information management jobs. People whom you would think would direct and develop information flow by and large don't know a damn thing about it. None of them could explain, for example, what a database is. Most are incapable of understanding that the less work people need to do to get tasks completed, the better the outcome. They don't understand the importance of consistency and repeatability in routine tasks, and cannot identify commonalities between tasks if there is the slightest superficial difference between them. They haven't the slightest concept of data integration, which is way so many jobs consist of creating spreadsheets, word tables and forms that contain the exact same data that can be extracted from data already stored in enterprise systems.The result is a culture that believes that the more work people do to achieve the same outcome, the better. They simply are unqualified to understand anything different.
>>534204972I would estimate it at 20% in the third world. And 80% at the first world.Bullshit jobs.
>>534204972We've been in post-scarcity for about a century now. In a non-fake economy of our technological level, work would be something we for a day or two a week. Work is now a way to deliberately waste everyone's time, not to produce what we need or even want.
>>534206701Forget to emphasize. And remember, this was in 1927. Have you ever asked why no economist or business has ever bothered to try and predict when our ever-increasing technology and efficiency gains would reduce "necessary" workweek by even a single hour? Because we passed that point long ago.
>>534205078thousands would literally die
>>534204972Anything real estate related could be done by AI and remove a huge pool of grifters contributing nothing
>>534206929If you die because no mcnuggets then like I said society would benefit
>>534204972Data analyst.
>>534204972Yea, is more than half for sure. All of middle management jobs, consultant jobs, most of government jobs and private jobs funded by the government, like somali daycares, most of HR, the list is endless.
Most doctors arebullshit jobs since you just need t+em to write a scrip in most cases.quite a few government paper pushing jobs.About 1/3rd of all elected officials.most all mental health jobs. most bullshit jobs are given to oldfags who are too broken for hard work. and you can only have so many workshop putzers futzers
>>534204972>What percentage of jobs in our society do you think are bullshit jobs?I'd say a quarter. Pretty much all working class jobs are real work; but white collar work is about two thirds bullshit.
>>534206701>>534206879I would avoid saying post scarcity because scarcity is still a thing; we can't give anything to anyone that asks. but limited post scarcity is definitely realwe produce more than enough goods for everyone on the planet to have a good quality of life with just our current productive capacity. not the quality of life billionaires live, but a solid life where you will never worry about food or clothing or housing, and where you'll have "luxury" goods to automate away the tedious tasks that have to be done. basically the american working class/middle class life of the 50s and 60s most americans genuinely do not understand how much shit gets thrown away for no reason other than to keep prices high. perfectly useable clothes, perfectly edible food, landfilled. products that are made to be low quality and break after 2-5 years for no reason other than to force you to buy a new one. shit we were cranking out in the 50s/60s still works because engineers back then still had the mindset of >we need to make this better than what came before in every way. it can't be cheap worthless shit otherwise nobody will want it
>>534204972I've only had one job in my life and it was 100% unnecessary bullshit made up to keep retards like me (autistic) busy. >cycle to old industrial building every morning at 07:00 >go into "workshop" and grab one of the Ikea boxes (usually chairs but sometimes tables) >open it>start sanding it down >paint it some different color >assemble >put in the "ready to sell" pile (they never sold, just ended up in the dumpster out back) >repeat >get out and cycle home at 15:00 It lasted for two years, then the company running this obvious scam (they got paid for each retard employee by the government and my salary was also government aka bux with extra steps) got shut down for abusing the system. I know for a fact that there's thousands of these jobs in Sweden. I have friends trapped in the same damn bullshit now.
Even most service jobs, you only need like one person per department in a grocery store. They're doing "work" but 50% of their work gets thrown into the trash every day and the menus / options are too large - this creates extra work for literally no gain to the store.Actually grocery stores entirely need to be cut down to like 1/4 the size because most of it is jewish bloat that doesn't even make them any money, the little neighborhood grocery store that takes up as much space as a single family home is cheaper than nearly every store around.
>>534207643Amazon has factory-to-landfill destruction *quotas*. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxqz2g05MTIEverybody overlooked the fact that after that guy burned down the toilet paper warehouse, the cost of toilet paper didn't raise.
>>534204972Graeber is a fraud who died under suspicious cirmstances.
>>534207767I believe climatetown on yt has a few videos about how horrible this is as well. I know he has one about fast fashion that describes the monumental waste of resources that is the modern clothing industry
>>534207647And basically every grocery store runs like this>Approximately 30% of food in American grocery stores is thrown away.They just outright throw away 1/3rd of the store. Picture the size of that, the amount of dumpsters, for shartmart that's an absolutely massive quantity. To make up for this they raise prices, wouldn't want things to sell out! Better to throw it away!
>>534205123>>534207852Lots of well poisoners in this thread.
>>534204972Literally everyone in an HR department and 95% of government employees and 95% of employees who do business with government contracts could disappear right now and I guarantee you, things would dramatically improve for the average person almost immediately.
>>534204972Any job done by a woman, a black or a jeet. Or any job done by a kike.
>>534207949Yup. It's not that they do nothing, it's that they actively make life worse. That's their whole job.Corporate staff don't exist to do nothing, neither do government staff, they're there to act as a buffer / shield to defend the company's actions. They are actively making life worse for everyone they interact with.
>>534207937that's not even getting into the volume of food thrown away at the farm because its not "pretty" enough. it's something like 30% of all food produced in the us is thrown away immediately after being harvested. and then like you say another 30% of what remains is thrown away at storesdamn near 50% of all food produced in the us is just thrown away. and people want to say that feeding the hungry is "too expensive"insert john steinbeck quote about the oranges
>>534208048It's not just that, it's the fact that they expend resources while doing this. Electricity, gas, wear and tear on infrastructure. Medical care on injuries that would otherwise not be sustained. Car parts whose lifespan is shortened. Commercial plumbing. Network bandwidth. Etc. etc. All this is *expended* to make life worse. This is something that people failed to grasp in the post covid economic boom. Lockdown faggotry aside, the economy was surging precisely because so many fake jobs were shut down and thus no longer applying retrograde force to the economy. To say nothing of the savings of remote work, and especially because of people not working while "working" remote. Every bullshit job one of those overemployment gamers sandbagged was another piece of would-be drag cut free.
Depending on how this war in Iran shapes up - it could put real strain on the bullshit jobs market. There are cost saving layoffs and then there cutting costs to the bone.
>>534204972There are excess people so it doesn't matter if they are BS, people need something to do.You could even say a waiter if the customer just brought their plates back to the counter to be washed. A lot of jobs could be replaced with computers if people were a little more patient, a lot of jobs are something like take order information, send it to person 2 who sends it to person 3 who inputs in their system.University lecturer's, just have a video playing in a room.Shop keepers, just have a huge warehouse.>>534207949Good when updating work schedules and managing payroll, sickdays, leave etc.Bad when rejecting candidates.
>>534204972Every low skill job should go on a board for every citizen to roll a time slot for. First hour worked is 1000 dollars an hour, say scrub toilets at mall. But second is 985, goes all the way down to like 0.0001 dollars an hour, resets every year.Than we'd divvy the remaining work and have a psuedo ubi. Ideally even a milliomaire should be better off scrubbing a couple toilets a year
Most jobs are pointless and can be done either by machines or other people by just giving them more tasks to do.
>>53420497290%
>>534209740>people need something to do.People are perfectly capable of using their own time as they see fit and always have been. The problem is that we have a professional feudal/managerial class who bitch and moan endlessly about how people "don't want to work" or are "playing video games" or blah blah blah MikeRowe.jpg. They will simply never satisfied unless people are miserably digging holes, filling them back in and kissing the boot of the managerial/feudal overlords for the privilege.
>>534204972Most. Thank you for your graeber posting.
>>53420497280%Most are make-work jobs for women and niggers.
>>534205420Vidrel is fact. Millions of government jobs exist to employ useless consumers in exchange for voting democrat. Millions of private sector jobs, especially in high tech, exist for the same exact reason. Basically bribery babysitting jobs that produce nothing, waste time with female drama, and totally drag down production.
>>534209933Yup. Reminder there are people in the suburb and city that go around and make sure everyone's mowing their lawn every week.
>>534207949Yep
>>534205553That's a sign that it's a bullshit economy
>>534207949Read picrel book. You'll enjoy it anon. The problem is far deeper than just gubment jobs.https://youtu.be/R07TlNqz9X4?si=nflRFcW0ISpi-qC8
>>534210265Starts at 9:32
>>534204972If it was 50% when graber wrote the book in 2012. Now its probably 80%.Keep in mind you can be doing a real looking job like diging a hole pouring concrete etc but you do it for ai center that produces nothing. You coud sort garbage all day for it to end up in same place. Its still a bulshit job.
>>534204972My brother and I both have no show union jobs going on 7 years. Dad is the boss.I was a heavy equipment operator all through college without ever stepping foot on a machine.
