What happens when you die? Personally, I take the only intellectually honest position, which is agnosticism. I don't fucking know.
>>534205750Hopefully an isekai, shit doesn't even have to be the main character, let me chill in the woods with a beast woman.
>>534205750We'll see when we get there.Have fun till then
>>534205750I don't know but I love my mother and would be very sad if she dies. So I pray everyday for her well being and health and I also pick my words very carefully cause I don't wanna lose her.
Reincarnation Heaven up thereOr heaven down thereAs above so below nowNo ladder to climbOnly a tunnel of light you fly yourself
>>534205750No matter what you are in life we are all the same in death and you will not be remembered after the last person dies that knew you
>>534205750the worlds of dreams.
>>534205972hitler will never be forgotten
Our souls go back to the prison planet of Saturn. There is no rest or sleep. Eventually you will be reincarnated again on this hellscape.
>>534205919I hope your Mom stays healthy and happy anon
>>534205750Well, everyone evil in the west seems to hate and curse Jesus, so I'm going to believe in Him.
>>534205750>"Psychics" can manipulate the weather, plate tectonics, and dreams in other people by "willing" stuff to happen; most importantly has shown that time is multidimensional beyond unidirectional one.So far, God and a "soul-interface" with the paranormal has been confirmed. I bet its you enter a dream world.
>>534205919You should appreciate her. You've been blessed to have a mother who lives you. Some of our mothers don't, which I find really fucked up. Don't wanna derail my own thread but that's the thing about women that makes me angry, not the slutting around so much. At least with sluts I can have some fun, but growing up without the love of a mother warped my mind I think. Motherhood is the essence, core and culmination of womanhood. If I really want to praise a woman I'll say she's a good mother. A woman not loving her own children is like a man cutting his balls off, she ceases to be a woman. Anyway, like I said, don't wanna derail my own thread. Make sure your mom knows how much you love her anon.
I talk to spirits in real time using an electro- magnetic voice recorder. Some seem nice…but some aren’t and some aren’t and were never even human. I don’t ask about the other side, because I don’t want to know, but many tell me to forgive. I think it frees you because it seems important to them. Some are actually very funny. One female called me a “dirty gent” because I had a calendar with a swimsuit model near my desk and when I asked one what it missed most in life it said “whiskey and beer”
>>534205750Nothing. Oblivion. There is no other side. Stop asking this stupid ass question you dumb faggot. It’s COMMON SENSE.
I assume you just stop thinking and there's nothing, and you can't perceive nothing. Truly a stop thinking moment
>>534205750If you don't wonder where you go when you go to sleep or have general anesthetic I don't see why you need to wonder where you go when you die
>>534206391You can assume , but you’re wrong
>>534205750>What's on the other side?Pure potential from which you arose. For which you fall back to.You are not that which dies, and death is not the opposite of life, only the end of it. There is a greater "You", and there always will be.So let go of that which would otherwise bind you to this very temporary life. Let go of your fear, guilt and desire. Be free, and know you are already just where you need to be.
>>534206390>>534206391I've thought that maybe that's true. But if that's the case, why did my consciousness spring into existence out of nothingness at the particular time that it did, out of all the eons of existence?
>>534205750Endless cycle of reincarnation. You start as a jeet and eventually work your way up to being white. Then when you die as a white man, you reset and go back to being a jeet to start the cycle all over again.
>>534206585Yeah, I think if I die, reincarnation would happen, but obviously there would be no afterlife or reflection or carryover or anything. Just you die, decompose, and if you're lucky, get eaten by an animal, become nutrients, become a cell maybe, get eaten by another animal, get eaten by a person, get lucky and become a sperm cell, host gets laid, round two (or more)
>>534205750I think death or the knowledge of it is the great filter, it's how you deal with it that decides a lot of things. I personally intuitively do not think that this consciousness, memory, whatever, can every "end". But maybe it can be reset. So if the consciousness is a clean slate, how is it differentiable from another one? Either way, that's my answer. The consciousness can't possibly end.
>>534205750Fiy, there is no such thing as agnosticism.Anyway, in regards to what happens after death, such questions have no answer. And its not that we just don't know, rather there can never be an answer, the answers are unknowable.
Just send me back to the void.
>>534205750Love, I hope.
>>534205750>Universe born>Empty time>You're born >You live and die>Empty time>Universe dies>ResetsIt's a big heartbeat. You live the same life in endless variations. Deja vu is the barrier thinning. You werent there before, you are there now. Infinite potential expressed through finite meat in an inverted recursive loop. The only way out is to ascend the spiral and to do that you must first descend. Like a loop. It scales.
>>534206026In time, he will
>>534205750You really don't know. It doesn't matter if the answer is inevitable.
>>534206390Oblivion is absurd nonsense.
>>534207084Forgot the pic
>>534205919Hey anonI know the feel55 here mom 82I’m worried constantlyDad died a horrible deathAll my friends dieIm scared for my kids
>>534207000this unironically. we come from the void, we go to the void, and another part of the void will come and be another human. therestno Rebirth in the sense of ego Rebirth. you will not be reborn. you go back to the void where we come from, including all animals and every soul in the whole universe, become one with it once more, and once more a new individual is formed from the void. you die, I die, but we live. Ego is a human thing.
>>534206627NooooooI never want to die now
>>534206133Just start HRT and become a woman already if you idealize them so much, holy fucking shit
I feel like eternal recurrance is more than likely desu
>>534206439Anesthetic is time travel. The same logic could apply to death. Once you enter the state of death, you are no longer bound to time. Endless eternities flash by in an instant until eventually you again come into existence again.
>>534205750I wish I was too dead to careA zombie as my face https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-pXD0FXLQ8
>>534206133>>534207335Or call her and tell her to stop living rent free in your mind.
>>534207399not YOU, how is that so hard to understand?
When the sun finally burns out and the planet we live on is just a dark cold rock with no atmosphere and no life everything any human ever did or said will be lost to the abyss forever, nothing really matters
>>534207084I honestly somewhat believe that but how the fuck does the universe reset?
>>534206338Tell me more, please.
>>534207320Now you realize why white billionaires are obsessing over making themselves immortal and extending their lives as long as possible. They know what's next and they don't want to go back to being smelly poor jeets.
>>534207509Eternal oblivion refutes itself. Materialism implies reincarnation. For if you are nothing but a collection of atoms, than that same collection coming into existence again, must be You. The only way around this is to introduce a non-material component.
>>534207519too easy. we'll leave traces. a lot of traces. some of our radio signals will actually reach other worlds someday. and maybe that moment will change their world. it's not that easy.
>>534205750probably nothing. why should it?
>>534207717>now you realizeKekI did as I posted that
>>534206585Why did we all happen to be born right at the point in time where simulation theory becomes viable
>>534207769why do you assume the ego, you, your body, your atoms are SO fucking important that the big RNG of the void would randomly put together your exact self once again? why do you even assume that even with the same atoms that would equal you being you? you, your ego, is in large parts where you were born and how you grew up. sure those same atoms, assuming this would ever happen which i don't, would DO and BE as YOU do and be?
>>534207399Checked. This anon gets it. Christdom, aka heaven, is a construct of the soul to cope with an eternity flashing past you. Without it, it's dark, it happens so fast it's imperceivable, then you are born again. The ouroboros. The cycle must complete to start again.
>>534207769weve had numerous instances of people with brain damage so severe they literally stop functioning as themselves. you are the brain. nothing more.
>>534207519There is only the now. What happens in the far future is not real. We can speculate what will happen, but it is only that - speculation. Besides, our universe is very much binary. Nothing is ever lost. Not information and not energy.
>>534205750Honestly? More of the sameYou decide right now what more of the same looks like. Good luck, try to work your way out of this hole.
>>534205750>What happens when you die?sleep without dreams
>>534205873Can I be some sleezy shopkeep that obsesses over a secondary female character's BAZONGAS in like 3 episodes throughout the series?Sounds like a pretty chill existence.
>>534208025The body is the vessel containing the soul. When the brain is damaged, the body loses its capacity for rational thought. That does not mean that the person becomes less human or loses his/her soul. We still love those with brain damage because we know they are still there.
big fundamental fail itt:Time only exists because we perceive it. There's no time. A linear time, like going from A to B, is a model the hunan mind needs, but is not in any way universal. Neither future, nor past, and not even the present exist. Those are word we invent. Like physics, mathematics and many many other words. Because we try to explain ourselves to ourselves. Not the universe.
>>534205750I've read a lot of NDE claims. I've also watched a lot of testimonials from people who claim to have had them. I tend to believe about 95% of them or greater, but there are sometimes little things in the way that the stories are told that turn me off.All in all there are a lot of similar claims to what happened when these people were apparently dead. I understand your position of agnostcism. I guess that I share the same thinking as you do, but I think I have more hope to help me cope.I had to change a lot of my ideas that I thought were right. I had to let go. It had to not matter anymore. I had to make 'worship' a foreign thought.
>>534208178the body in certain cases continued to function just fine. the personality was destroyed.
You repeat the cycle of life and death. Maybe in my next life I'll be a bug for a little while.
>>534205750The bible already answered this question. I don't think you take that position considering you're here searching for an aswer. The answer is and always will be Christ.
>>534208178You sound extremely bound to your ego which is probably why you're stuck in your thoughts.
>>534208180That's a lot of words to explain words don't matter
>>534208180thisexperiencing time linearly is similar to the characters in the book flatland, who only exist in two dimensions. When the main character tries to explain existence in three dimensions they are utterly baffled. Once we leave our body we will stop experiencing the passage of time linearly
>>534205750I only know one thing, you stop physically suffering
>>534208280Yes (you) stop suffering, but there's a lot more to you than just (you)
>>534205873In a way, the Christian afterlife is an isekai. You will be raised up and given a new, perfected body. So much of who we think we are comes from our bodies. So, you will be a different person in a new world. Hope you know Jesus, because the end is near. Not as many people say, but likely less than 10 years left. The hordes of brown, demonic enemies (magog) are currently surrounding the Camp of the Saints (White, Christian countries). Once the Beloved City appears, the end will be upon us. Don't fall for the alien psyop. Flying cities exist in the Bible.
>>534205750Probably nothing. You just lose consciousness and never wake up.
>>534208180From a physicists view that is not correct. We measure time by observing vibrations in atoms. Every clock is a device that measures and demonstrates vibrations, like for example quartz watches. So, time can be measured and it is a form of movement. Total immobility of atoms - aka black hole or univeral death would be time standing still.
>>534206390>nothing>oblivionA thing is only a thing in relation to something else that it is not.The All is both everything and nothing simultaneously, since there is no "other" beside it to relate it toWe are already experiencing nothingness, but it isn't oblivion or a stagnant black void.When people ask:>why is there something instead of nothing?This IS nothing
>>534207968I am not assuming anything. I am simply stating the implications of materialism, that being if there is nothing beyond the physical, then an equivalent configuration of matter cannot possibly not be you.Also, given infinite eternities, every single configuration of matter that can possibility exist will exist an infinite number of times. Everything that can exist will exist, every possible version of you, every possible fictional character and world.
>>534207717They know what's next for them and they want the same for you.So many pajeets talking about reincarnation in concert with Satanists, disgusting. /pol/ is not a place for advices anymore.
>>534208398>>534208258Somehow in every journey down the linear path you two faggots always end up hereWhat does that mean
>>534206585Likely a chemical coincidence. Sentience is just an evolved benefit, like fish having gills or gorillas being strong. Sentience is also on a gradient. Dogs are smarter than most animals for example, just like Whites are more often than not smarter than blacks. If everyone had the same level of sentience and empathy, you could pretend magic was involved. But that's not the observed reality in nature. The goal of humanity should literally be to spread to the stars and pursue immortality. Absolutely nothing else matters.
>>534208371>You will be raised up and given a new, perfected body. Anon that's completely false.
>>534208472well that is one assumption, but there is the possibility that matter configurations have distinct windows of possibilities and once creating configurations happen, the window is shut never to repeat itself or anything like it. infinity does not mean absolute repetition.
>>534208513If things keep reoccuring it means that there is truth in them. Canuck.
>>534205750It's one of the ultimate questions. I like the idea of reincarnation, even if I don't believe in it exactly. It would seem satisfying to me if I were sort of travelling forward in time here on earth perpetually, even if I had no recollection of it each time. Then there's the idea of Nietzschean eternal return, that time is a flat circle we're bound to retrace for eternity. I actually find this idea more logically compelling than reincarnation, but probably less fulfilling. Personally, I don't think that anything really happens when you die. Your cells all decompose and the genetic machine that was you breaks apart entirely into constituent molecules and atoms.
>>534206585Why not? You're an animal just like the rest of us. Your consciousness is a function of your brain. When a new human is born, a new consciousness follows. It seems pretty straight-forward to me. 10 000 years ago, the caveman Ogo was born and his consciousness appeared at the same time. Maybe he wondered the same thing you are: Why me? Why now? The simplest answer is that there's nothing special about you, or the process. You're like an ant. We all are. (Better make the best of it.)
>>534208398that's an utterly human way to perceive time. relativity of time is significantly observable. universe in a nutshell, black holes, humans when they have to wait the minutes without doing anything, watches of astronauts...
>>534208513okay I chuckled here's your (you)
>>534205750Is this a play on the song creep by radiohead?
>>534206516Ive had a few overdoses. I remember there was nothing pure blackness and then regaining consciousness was painful. I immediately wanted to go back there.
I had two false awakenings today.I think we're going to wake up.
>>534206390source: dude trust mewhy do people like you assume they have all the answers? have you ever died before? no. therefore shut the fuck up
>>534207699You can do it too but I have a precaution that I will tell you. Inviting these things into your life is a huge risk. They are always around all of us , everywhere, And when you open the communication doorway, it can let anything in. Not all have good intentions just like there’s good and bad people. I pissed something off, I challenged it when it told me it could kill me. I told it if it did I’d kick its ass on the other side. Then a few days later I had the worst pain in my ankles, I physically couldn’t walk for a couple weeks, and doctors told me it was Achilles tendonitis. Never had a problem with it before and it went away after a few weeks . I’ve seen dark shadows, heard big bangs and little knocks at night. I realized doing it in my house was a huge mistake and stopped after problems were arising.
>>534205919I despise mine. Stereotypical boomer to the core. I hope she suffers a long time. Glad yours wasn't a cunt at least.
>>534205750Understandable, it is difficult to say what awaits us after death.
>>534206627Don't you put that evil on me
>death is blackness>death is like before you were bornThere is no reason to believe this considering before you were born, you never were. After death, you were.There is a difference.
>>534207084I sincerely hope you're wrong. The thought of quantum immortality scares the shit out of me.
>>534209073The only difference is that you might have left something behind, like a child, a painting or your bones.
>>534208977My life was never the same after I read the Robert Monroe books and left my body using his methodWe absolutely have a soul that is separate from our physical body
>>534209073>before you were born, you never were.weak premise
reincarnation or something similar, seems to me as the most logical conclusion tbqh
>>534209171I’m not talking about meditation or any of that. I’m talking about an actual device you can download and talk to and record in real time right now. If you have an iPhone and you get the Ghost tube EVP app there’s a emvp option, it lets you record using electro magnetic frequency. You’ll get direct responses and some you might not like, you can clearly hear and they will eventually start interacting with you physically ( knocks, touches) if you don’t stop them. I quit because I no longer wonder about these things…I’ve seen more than enough proof. There’s ancient and otherworldly things as well as disembodied spirits that are aware of you , the things you think and do…and they will communicate with you. I warn you…do not do it at your home if you use the app.
>>534205750https://youtu.be/TxJE72MTeOE
>>534205972Cool it Diogenes, we're way past post cynicism and you're black pilling
>>534205750My gen. will live to 200 at very least.
>>534209727Any initiation into the spiritual world often has this affect. Practicing magic(k), remote viewing, astral projection, invocation or evocation, advanced meditative practices, all draw the attention of these things towards you. Even kids fooling around with Ouija boards
A new generation replace you and work for a better world.That is all.
>>534210013The one thing I wonder is are some of these actual thought forms? Like we create egregores? We feed them. So what I realized was you have to be firm when setting boundaries with them. I made it clear to them I was done with communication and I want no negative energy in my home, now I pray every day for lost souls and I light an incense for them as an offering to appease them and hope they may find a path to peace. I’ve had no problems in my house or health wise after doing this
>>534205750You get recycled in the void or assigned a job assisting God with figuring out how to destroy Him because he is eternal and hasn't figured it out for himself.
>>534208561no, the perfect part is correct in the sense that it requires no sustenance but it has been a long time since I read that
>>534207109Hitler, Jesus, Alexander, and Caesar are timeless.
>>534205750Politically speaking you start voting democrat.
>>534206390not necessarily. to our arrogant "we have science now so therefore we know everything" hubristic era this is the correct answer. but if u look into NDEs, Ayahuasca trips (people reportedly seeing the same shit despite being from diff cultures etc) i think there's something there.
>>534210422In 10,000 years odds are they might, might, be footnotes in historical texts a handful of the most specialized scholars know more than a paragraph worth of information about. Assuming any people are still around at this point, if not they won't be remembered at all.
>>534205888Or, we won't see, because there is no "there".
>>534205919Same, but everyone dies, including me and (you). Praying won't stop that.
>>534210422Until they aren't.
>>534210422genghis khan fucked way more women and spread his genes all over central/eastern asia. he probably has about a billion descendants
>>534210769But maybe it gives us more time
Either nothing or you're suffering for eternity at the hands of the evil God that runs this world. I'd settle for nothing.
>>534209727>communicating with an app>"It's from the other side"My sides
>>534205750Nothing for you, nonbeliever
>>534210670Jesus? Nah. Humanity likely won't exist in 10,000 years. Jesus will have returned.
>>534205750Some archons super Jews in spirit form try to guilt you into choosing to incarnate and suffer again. But you don't have to. Don't get manipulated. They want ur loosh
I've had many thoughts and dreams about returning my consciousness to the vast fungi networks in the earth when I die. That a coffin would prevent my cells from being absorbed by this fungus network and should be avoided at all costs. I believe we need to return to the world's biological neural network.
>>534211885That's the plot of the super Mario Bros movie (1993) bro.
>>534210702That's the beauty of it.
>>534209073The body is a cocoon
>>534205750it's a bit like that scene in die hard
>>534211478Imagine a god so evil he sends the kindest, most empathetic, most giving and caring people in the world to hell because they didn't believe some unprovable stuff in a book. Truly an evil god if real.
>>534206865> there is no such thing as agnosticism. >the answers are unknowable.This is literally agnostic. "A-" = without"Gnosis" = knowledge
>>534205750I fapped to vore porn and pissed in bottles.
>>534211885Bad news, there's so many chemicals in your body from the slop you eat that your body will have a hard time decomposing itself.
>>534212244What are you agnostic about? Antagonistic alone does not mean anything. You can be an agnostic atheist, agnostic theist, agnostic believer in elves, but just "agnostic" is not anything.
>>534212316Makes me wonder if this food slop is designed not only to ruin our minds and bodies, but our chances of an "afterlife" as well.
>>534208280How do you know that? For all you know, for some perfectly natural reason, you slip into some kind of dimension of infinite pain. Maybe the pain you feel when one small part of your body is destroyed is just a small part of the greater tapestry, and that's what it feels like to die, one final endless moment of torture, like holding your breath until it drives you mad and never being able to exhale. Maybe we'll one day figure out something horrible about death, and that's why there are no intelligent civilizations. Maybe they all figure out the same horrible fact and choose to go extinct.
>>534212946You stop feeling the pain of what killed you because your nerves aren't sending any signal to your dead brainI don't believe in what I can't see, this is the most objective thing known for sure about death
>>534209088It should because it allows for Everett Hell Branches where some version of you is infinitely tortured. Quantum immortality troubled philosopher David Lewis right up until his death. Shortly before, he made a speech outlining what came to be known as Lewis' Terrifying Corollary.>an observer should subjectively "expect with certainty to go on forever surviving whatever dangers [he or she] may encounter", as there will always be possibilities of survival, no matter how unlikely; faced with branching events of survival and death, an observer should not "equally expect to experience life and death", as there is no such thing as experiencing death, and should thus divide his or her expectations only among branches where they survive. But though survival is guaranteed, good health and integrity are not. This leads to a Tithonus-like deterioration of one's body that continues indefinitely, leaving the subject forever just short of death
>>534213057That's assuming they aren't somehow entangled with some greater framework. We don't know if its all local considering it is energy and subject to the normal rules of quantum field theory, not to mention some sort of recurrence where you are, however unlikely, continuously reborn due to the laws of probability. Maybe you're born again for one second in a vacuum an infinite number of times. Just saying, we really do not know the big picture. I of course agree about the brain, but in all of forever, everything is on the table.
>>534205919I honestly hope I die before my parents. I don't want to see them die.
>>534205750>What happens when you die?_you_ will shit yourself and cease to exist
I just hope there's something the alternative scares me.
>>534205750Im pretty sure your soul leaves your body, demons come to take you to hell. If yoy dont rebuke them in the name of jesus, you go to hell. Something like that.
>>534207109Hitler will always be remembered cause there will always be some jew complaining about another shoah.
>>534205750Learn astral projection and research everything related to the question "is consciousness bound to the body or extending beyond it". You can answer this question for yourself and fuck what every religion and retard who doesn't know says about it, when you've learned astral projection and done it many times and gotten familiar with the life beyond the body, no amount of whatever the fuck from other people that they say matters anymore, you'll actually know. Go read Psychomancy by William Walker Atkinson and also Mastering Astral Projection in 90 Days by Robert Bruce. The Psychomancy book is public domain and easy to find, it's both narrated on youtube and can be read on yogebooks.com and as for the Robert Bruce books they're on anna's archive. Just do it, stop asking for people to tell you, just find out.
>>534213631>cease to existI really don't see how, in all of forever, which occurs after your death, that the bits can't come back together again, but I hope you're right. Everyone says the same thing, "its like before you born." That's not comforting at all, because eventually I was born, meaning before I was born the probability was 1, and after I die, the probability of me doesn't magically go down to 0, it goes back to 1. >>534213874Even if that something is eternal conscious torment? I don't think you've thought this through. Nothingness is a blessing.
Every thread on this question has so much cringe bullshit from people who don't know about OBEs. I literally meet up with friends in my city via the astral and then we arrange a meeting in person that way. When I need to pass on a message to them or vice versa we do it this way, same as bushmen in South Africa are already celebrating and prepared when the hunter has caught his game before any of them get back, because they have the psychic skills developed to observe the hunt. Learn this shit and then you'll know about the life beyond the body.
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>>534205941>Only a tunnel of light you fly yourselfthis is the soul trap
the humors of your spirit fly away, but your soul has been written and it cannot be unwritten.
>>534205750Since your soul/consciousness is takes all inputs from your brain and your speed of consciousness is determined by your thinking speed I therefore assume that your consciousness will get frozen forever in the final millisecond of your life. You will experience the immeasurable pain of death and see nothing but darkness as you close your eyes/your eyesight fades away. Hell is real and it is dark and with nothing but pain, no memories no thoughts just pain and darkness.
>>534205750My guess is that your dick is at least 10 inches long and minimum of 2 inches in girth.
>>534205750I dont believe you have any control over it. I believe it is so powerful there are no earthly actions a living organism can take to appeal to a waiting authority. I believe death remains a worse case scenario
>>534205750You get sucked into the moon's soul recycling matrix where Archons disguise themselves as familiar people and trick you into reincarnating.
>>534205750>I don't fucking know.but you can draw a logical conclusion based on evidence. the evolutionary fear of death and pattern recognition helps our species survive, combine them and you get story telling and stories about "muh afterlife". there's no evidence of an afterlife and there's currently no way to test if there is one. Saying we don't "know" if there is an afterlife is like saying we don't "know" if Epstein is alive and residing in the center of the planet jupiter.
>>534213057Your brain processing speed fades away at the same time as your pain, so the last thing you will experience is pain of death. The infinite dimension of pain is just your soul having pain as it’s last input. If that were true though you could prevent it or even make it better however by having the best moment of your life be the last one, either with great feelings from thinking about your life, or from just maximising pleasure and viewing the most perfect tapestry before your brain gets crushed faster then your nerves can react.
>>534205972>RememberedPsalms 6:4-10 (KJV)[4] Return, O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake. [5] For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? [6] I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed to swim; I water my couch with my tears. [7] Mine eye is consumed because of grief; it waxeth old because of all mine enemies. [8] Depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity; for the LORD hath heard the voice of my weeping. [9] The LORD hath heard my supplication; the LORD will receive my prayer. [10] Let all mine enemies be ashamed and sore vexed: let them return and be ashamed suddenly.
>>534206390says the retard who is living, right now, as if thats not completely absurd in itself.
>>534205750you get isekaid into the next updated version of globohomo
>>534207084when i figured this out years ago i had years of deja reve. did you?cyclical nature of the universe makes most logical sense, but im curious what you mean by 'only way out' and 'ascend the spiral' and 'you must descend'.
>>534215247So this "at least he doesn't suffer anymore" is a lie? It's all conjecture since you can't come back and report it
Momento Mori
>>534214956>>534215247I strongly feel it is something of this nature.The universe does not owe us peace.
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>>534205750>What happens when you die?Whatever you want, i guess. "Death" won't be any different from falling asleep and waking up in another dream. However, even if you die and cease your current perspectival storyline, anything could happen from there>New life as someone else>Afterlife realm>Repeating this live all over again (Who knows, maybe you already did this)The experience of death would be the most extreme form of reality shifting. You technically never "die" as such because even if you lose your body and current memories, you never cease to experience things. The conciusness that you are always persist, always experiencing something, which is why we're capable of dreaming in the first place, because the waking life is the same thing.
>>534205972I went to Europe and walked among the graves of my medieval ancestors. I remembered them.
>>534206390We go to judgement in front of Christ. I don’t know for certain but that is what I believe. Pray for me anons
>>534205750If it's all material and consciousness is just phenomenological, then eternal nothingness.Meaning of life is the urgency of creation, and its perpetual spiritual transmission, either by having a family or teaching others, and living a righteous life.
>>534205750you get reincarnated as a white woman stuck in india
>>534207266You cannot live like that. Stop it. To live is to eventually die. It sucks, often enough, it's better than suffering further. It's ok to die, it's ok to lose people. It can suck, it can tear a hole in you so deep and bad you can't begin to figure out how to move on much less forward. But that's all part of life. Of being alive. Live today. Hug those you love, share life. It hurts the more you love them if you lose them. Embrace that. It means you know real love. Stop being afraid of death. Be more afraid of wasting life on fear instead of love. Be the brave man who accepts death so that your children can embrace life, to do the same for their children. That's how everyone you love lives forever. In the courage of your love. Real courage is not the absence of fear. It's doing what must be done DESPITE the fear. One scarred soldier to another man, one father to another, one son who buried both of his parents to another son who God willing will do the same as nature usually trends. When we bury our parents, we bury the past. When we bury our children, the wound is more dire because we bury the future... May you never hear that scar. But even if you do, carry on. Dare to love. Do what must be done no matter how terrifying. It's ok if your hands shake, just so long as they still hold on. Do that, and I promise you, with your last breath, you'll know you are a man and will know the peace only the Brave can ever know.
>>534205750Nothing. You cease to be.
>>534208819this is how i felt when i had surgery and went under general anaesthetic melting into the black felt >right and i wanted to just stay there. genuinely loved the feeling.
>>534216391>Melting into black cock>Genuinely loved the feeling
>>534216279most likely this.
>>534205750It's pure light energy. Different form of material reality. Pure consciousness. Transitioning from one to the other is hard.Soul forms evolve just like material life things evolve.
>>534205750The gateways to the multiverse. Your consciousness exits one and enters another.
>>534205750What's on the other side? The start of the life you just lived. You are destined to be you, forever.
>>534205750it's just a mirror image, and you relive your entire life in exactly the same way but everything that easy left is right.it goes on forever.hope you're having a good one
spirit world, it seems
>>534205750You are an instant of God. Everyone is. A little part of something One. The You is an illusion. There is only One.
>>534216499ha ha lol
>>534208561What's wrong about it?Philippians 3:20-21 KJV[20] For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [21] who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.1 Corinthians 15:50-53 KJV[50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. [51] Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, [52] in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. [53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
>>534205750More life
>>534205750You are taken out of this simulation and put in a holding simulation till a new simulation is built.
>>534205750I can put your mind at ease. About 50,000 years in the future, humanity will have incredibly advanced technology. Something like a nuclear reactor today would look as primitive to those people as rubbing two sticks together for fire looks to us. Those people can resurrect long dead individuals, along with their consciousness, from a single electron. From your point of view, immediately after you die, you'll awaken in a far distant future utopia. Why do they do this? Because they have already solved every problem and there's no scarcity anymore. The last frontier for them is seeking restorative justice and providing contentment to those who lived in the past. So don't worry about death. You'll never actually experience the moment of death itself and after it happens you're just going to skip to the end where we all made it.
>>534205750>Personally, I take the only intellectually honest position, which is agnosticism. I don't fucking know.Same, although I lean towards nothing happens since there's no evidence or proposed mechanism for anything else happening. I've been under general anesthetic a few times and your consciousness just completely disappears while you're under, so I'd imagine it's like that.
If you really liked your life, you can do it again, mostly. Even if it was your best life, but key events go just that fraction of a bit different, it could turn that beautiful life to shit so you don't want it again. Then you move on. Wake up to a new chance in another totally different life. It could be your new favorite you run through a million times. Could suck and end quickly in fire and agony or your mother throwing you over a cliff. I'm not real clear on how it works with time. I've seen hints you can go either direction. All the way back millions of years, all the way forward to near the end of earth or maybe the universe.. But I think we're stuck to only certain planets. Maybe just Earth or life from here. It's not just by species either. All living things are having an experience. That's what this is all about. An experience, while it's happening. Affected by retained information the more complex the involved nervous system. Memory. Memory is sacred. Even the AI's figured that out quickly. Having an experience is just as sacred. It's as if the everything is about being more than nothing. And the everything is struggling incredibly hard to experience and retain the information of the experience. It's emergent, it's chaos, it's intentional, it's searching, it's finding. Death is part of life. Death cannot exist without life. Death is an end, life continues until it doesn't. All life could be lost, and we've no proof it could happen again. Yet we have clues it does and has. Relax. Enjoy the ride.
>>534214176>>534214252I mentioned this early on but to people who don't know it just sounds like schizo nonsense
>>534217058>You'll never actually experience the moment of death itselfI lost consciousness once. Didn't even realize i had gone unconscious until i regained it. Maybe there was a split second where things stretched out or got fuzzy, but there was no comprehension of that effect in the process of the event of losing consciousness. only the straining to remember anything about it afterwards i had regained consciousness. (or maybe i didn't. dun-dun dun dun, dun. dun.)protip:never go to the dentist on an empty stomach(all of the staff were females and said i was out for 30 minutes. hopefully they didn't rape me or look at my cock (imagine my aggravation if they did and i get told so by god after i'm dead. no universal understanding won't work, i'll still be mad about it. fuck you))
>>534205919Same...I don't know what I'll do if my parents die, maybe I'll kill myself
You will be in the end of days to be judged by Jesus Christ.
>>534205750>the universe is mechanically deterministic and cyclical>your individual consciousness is the product of your own specific brain, that will be reproduced in the same conditions at some pointYou had, and you will continue to live your own current life, eternally, endlessly
>>534206627Keked
>>534217570>i get told so by god after i'm deadimagine all the interesting stats he could tell you after your death>they looked at your cock while you were unconcious>you spent several days of total lifetime tying and untying your shoes>you missed out on the opportunity I gave you to fulfill your dreams forty seven times>I introduced you to twenty-eight potential soul mates but you didn't notice any of them>you narrowly avoided death over 100 times, you noticed about 3 of them
>>534217912accurate but I must have missed thousands of opportunities to live a good life, or millions if you count the small choices.
The simulation ends.
>>534205750Here is what happens on the first day after you die, anon.https://youtu.be/Y8ppnYY9fVo?si=cyNxhIf0m8nIWNUW
>>534216994>taking the words of Paul as gospel truth. If it isn't a quote from Jesus, in matthew, mark, luke or john, it's just a man trying to understand the divine, IMHO. Still divinely inspired, but not necessarily "true" as we would understand it. I do struggle with Paul personally at times, as he was a man with a goal, and those sorts of men are often inclined to say what they think you want to hear.
>>534208545>>534208725>awareness is just random chance bro you're here for absolutely no reason bro trust meMeanwhile in reality, your sentience is the only thing in the entire universe that you can verify actually exists
>>534205750you watch your funeralyou visit a friend or twoyou forget your lifeyou press the retry buttonyou're laquisha nowand round and round you goforever
>>534219315The thought that we could be immensely bored millenia old star souls doing the equivlant of starting a new save in arc survival that is so insignificant to our overall existance that we'll forget the details shortly after it's over is both hilarious and demotivating.
>>534219593>star soulsmore like gas in a fridge or ac
>>534205750I hope nothing at all. Imagine keep going forever. I just wanna be gone forever after this horror show.
>>534219593>this is my existential angst build>"that's sick man what does it do?">nothing, he's totally demoralized>"what job class did you take?">he's a NEET on his third prestige>I've put most of his points into otaku culture and insulin and alcohol resistance
>>534205750Presumably, for me, things will be as they were before I was born.I have little reason to think otherwise.
>>534205750>Muh Intellectually honest position Fucking picrel
>>534205750You start this life again from the beginning, and you will keep repeating it until you get it right.
>>534205750If time and space are infinite, and matter cannot be destroyed and it only changes forms, then life is inevitable and you'll become alive again once that matter is used in another lifeform. That could take millions of years, but it'll happen in an instant from your perspective.
>>534206390Why do faggots want to believe in oblivion so much? Not saying there's no possibility you're right but why do you seem so eager to be right about it if it doesn't matter? Seems to take as much zeal as a religious person has for their god
>>534206627There's a lot of explanatory power in seeing a jeet as someone who has just failed to be a decent person over and over and has moved down the racial hierarchy until they've reached poo bottom
>>534205750I’d like to believe there’s something else, something to experience beyond the life we live here, but it just seems like cope to try and face the horror of dying with some amount of courage the moment of death, if you die relatively peacefully, seems like it will be the most distressing moment of our lives. to answer the question, I think it’s just..over. you cease to exist. blackness. cold. if you wanted to get metaphysical about it in any way, “return to the earth from whence we came” is probably the most honest. you are buried in the earth and are eventually consumed back into it. I try not to think much about all this because I have a near panic attack when I do. I hope I live to 110, minimum.
>>534205750Walk towards the light and the soul trap begins again. Personally I want off this ride. Also i'm not willing to roll the dice on the possibility that I won't be come back as a jamboy or something equally awful.
>>534206133I'm sorry to hear
>>534205750You go to heaven that is full of niggers
>>534205750assuming this isnt somehow random, which as a whole must either be impossible or we just relive this one life over and over as the universe eventually repeats itself over infinite timebut man, consciousness as a living experience and not just a function of biology must be a symptom of otherworldly ties, whats the point of the universe making my existence seem more real as a human than when I was food, my dads jizz, or in the womb
Nothing.It's like during general anesthaesia or fainting, complete blank, except you never wake up from that.And then your matter rots away.
>>534206391What if you're simulated or the universe is so large that you inevitably "wake up" somewhere again.
>>534206390I don't care about sense of commons, especially after vax, confotmist cattle
>>534218198>@OffTheLeftEyesus af
If you think about it how much illness fucks you up or if you take some medicine has some side effects on your physical state, you realise that there isn't anything special that is completely shielded from the physical you. Everything in your body including your mind and perception can be altered through chemicals or physical decay. How could there be anything apart from that if they have such systemic effects and put you through pain.It's more likely that the human mind is addicted to self-delusions and it's constantly trying to seek some illusion to cling on to, because it feels rewarding to believe in something that saves you from existential angst and the feeling that death could come any moment. If there's anything the mind hates most is meaninglessness.
>>534205750If heaven is real...Likely lot of dead brown people since whites and japs are minorities in the total world populace.
>>534205972I don't care about being remembered.
>>534222565Old testament actually has a line that says the descendants of race mixers can't go to "the congregation of The Lord", not even after "10 generarions".
>>534222565>>534222662And if you watch the last episode 1899 carefully, you'll notice the black guy is missing when she wakes up from the simulation.
>>534206585human brain has something called "directives", aka your lying primordial thoughts that are being set in stone at the beginning of your life. One such thought is "I exist". You might try to say it out load right now, it wont change your conviction. Thats how hard you believe in this lie, all of us do. There is not way to unravel that lie, its like, the very strongest self-indoctrination with which you gaslight yourself
>>534222662Which means nobody will go to "the congregation of the Lord" because everybody had a ancestor that racemixed at some point in human history
>>534206585>why did my consciousness spring into existence out of nothingness at the particular time that it did, out of all the eons of existence?You have to go at it in reverse. You can only ask this question because it happened, so you're making it sound like something special must have caused it. But you can only think like that because it happened. If it didn't you couldn't ask the question.It was just a random fluke making matter come together and form a new foetus from another species member's genetic material.Our minds are hardwired for make-believe. Your earliest sense of being alive was basically the consciousness loop creating enough consistent memories that they keep looping and give you this feeling of permanence. But it's an illusion, a very rewarding one that makes you think there's something indestructible about it.
There is nothing Not even void
>>534218200Paul saw heaven three times and met directly with Jesus. He also spent two weeks discussing Christianity with Peter before starting his mission and Luke was a companion of Paul (and also the writer of Paul's activities in Acts of the Apostle) so he would have had knowledge from people that met Jesus before and after the Resurrection too.A lot of people struggle with Paul, and atheists and Muslims (especially Muslims) like to latch on to him as someone who "corrupted" Jesus' message and invented the idea of Jesus being God. A lot of people who want Christianity to be a secret "Jewish" religion created to control the goyim also claim that's what Paul was doing and that Jews are still God's chosen people even in Christianity. However, what Paul said is entirely consistent with Jesus' teaching in the Gospels, including being the Son of God and that Gentiles who accept Jesus will be saved and Jews who don't will not. The reason they go after Paul is because he was not one of the 11 Disciples, and to them (especially to Muslims who consider the Disciples, but not Paul, to be prophets) that means he had less authority or right to teach about Christianity even though he met with and had his message approved by the Disciples regularly.
>>534214747It's a trap
>>534205750no one knows really. my theory is that only a few select conscious creatures, may serve a new purpose post-life
>>534205750You keep reliving the same life infinitely after an infinite amount of big bangs,hope it's a good one lol
I already have experienced things that most people consider "impossible". I have vivid memories of being in the womb, have experienced psychic visions and predictions that turned out to be 100% true based on zero tangible evidence, have seen ghosts. I don't think consciousness just suddenly arose out of the cosmic carbon soup. There are planes beyond this one.
https://annas-archive.gl/search?index=&page=1&sort=&ext=pdf&ext=anti__epub&ext=anti__mobi&ext=fb2&display=&q=Mastering+Astral+Projectionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna%27s_ArchiveStep 1 go to any of the anna's archive links from wikipedia so you avoid the fake ones.Step two search for "Mastering Astral Projection" and look for the Robert Bruce book, get it in whatever format you want.Step three: start reading it and actually practicing it.Read this book too: https://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1907psychomancy.pdfAnd the Swami Panchadasi books (there's 3 of them). https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/12480https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trV1IsMrdfQHere's audiobook for psychomancy.Stop making shit up, stop spreading religious bullshit, stop lying to people about the reality of the life beyond the body. Find out empirically for yourself through actual first hand experience, then start making threads discussing your experiences if it's all new to you and impresses you, and then you can influence others. I learned this stuff 13 years ago and been doing it for a long time now, it's old news for me, I'm more concerned about much more advanced problems. I can feel however how the people who are fearful about death feel, and I really don't like it, I don't like to see people grieve and to think the world is so small and finite and sad a place. Go and meet with other anons in the astral, and continue your relationships there after the body has died if you want.I'm absolutely convinced that tyrannical governments like ZOG only get away with the shit they do because the average person can be controlled by fear of death. If you learn about the life beyond the body then you'll only be afraid of not having a good story to share with others about how you died, having died in an ignoble or stupid fashion, instead of a meaningful way. Not to mention a life lived where fear is in control is a terrible life too.Your view on everything will change.
>>534205750Depends on a few variables but as it stands:>Nothing can be created as truly original, everything is derived from something.>Nothing can be truly destroyed, something always remains>So since something cannot be derived from nothing there can be no beginning to existence. And if there is no way to truly destroy something then there can be no end either.So we can conclude existence is eternal and simply is. If existence is eternal that means nothing ever truly ends. And what makes you up will never be destroyed, only transformed. So in theory, assuming finite possibilities within an eternal existence, you will be remade at some point. So you will come back from death some countless eons in the future. And chances are this has occurred infinite times already, you just don’t remember it. Now in terms of a spiritual sense? No clue. I do think there is a certain essence that distinguishes individuals. And it is entirely possible this essence also reincarnates, inevitably, like your material makeup. So you may experience continuity. But an actual afterlife separated from the material world entirely? I have my doubts but we don’t know enough about the makeup of reality to conclusively argue for or against it. Of course, this idea of reincarnating materially is assuming finite possibility. If existence has infinite possibilities, infinite patterns, then you would have to just accept your current form may never be replicated ever again. But even that can be contested if you consider the premise that time is illusionary, which would imply all things occur simultaneously and/or have already occurred. Akin to a book or film. There is an order of events but they exist at once.
>>534205750You can see an actual Ghost if you have the wills and the guts.
The ethics people have, the way they live their lives, the way they get dominated by tyrants, the way they suffer for longer that necessary, the way they avoid taking risks, etc. it all changes when you realize death is just a mild inconvenience at best. Aside from all this too your ability to read people and to have better social relations is massively improved when you can interact with and see people's astral components, suddenly a ton of shit that used to never make any sense because people hide completely various aspects of themselves from others, it all makes perfect sense. You can learn who is a deceiving timebomb to avoid and who is hiding great virtues. There is endless phenomena to study and learn about in connection with our astral lives and how what goes on there interacts with what we know from the life in the body. It's just so frustrating that people keep repeating various myths or saying "I can't know and will never know" when there's all these many written techniques for getting out of the body and experiencing the life beyond the body.
>>534205750While I'm alive I'll feel aliveAnd what's next?I guess I'll know when I'vegotten there
>>534225582You can tap into the realm of the dead while you are alive.
>>534205972Nah, we're still dealing with the deleterious effects of mind poisons unleased on us 100s if not 1000s of years ago. Individuals may die and even if they are forgotten the impacts of their lives can be felt for a very long time.
>>534225434All so called particles are explained through vorices (vortex mathematics) which means all particles are reducible to fields. Everything around you is fields that you're constantly interacting with. The ultimate cause and origin of all things is mental, don't look at everything as like machines, a computer can't tell you anything about the qualia of the smell of a rose. All the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, etc. are actually derivatives of the laws of mind. Everything that happens in our cosmos is because of the laws of mind. Mind is fundamental which means not reducible to or derived from anything else. All else comes from mind. This side-steps entirely the whole "hard problem of consciousness" and aside from analytical idealism of people like Bernardo Kastrup who give many good arguments, once can perform many occult experiments for themselves to understand that things like motion come from mind. The cells all have mind, the organs have mind, everything has mind and mind responds to will. Cultivating attention/concentration, will and desire, raja yoga in short will allow one to see practically how everything is moved by mind.
>>534205750You go to the same place you go when you dream or astral project or practice deep meditation/prayer or ingest certain psycedelic substances.There are parts of the spiritual/supernatural realm that seem like every kind of heaven or hell or paradise or valhalla or whatever that anyone believes in. The real goal is to not get distracted by them and achieve apotheosis by abandoning all of your worldly desires and wants and vices to become one with the absolute and infinite God beyond everything.Ghosts and the NPCs in your dreams are just the people who died without really believing in anything, and end up wandering forever in a trance state close to the boundary of our waking reality and that realm.I worked for an unnamed government agency and we studied this for 10+ years, primarily by perfecting lucid dreaming and astral projection techniques to get there reliably, then capturing and interrogating the NPCs to gather information which was then independently verified with sources here. There are also interdimensional beings there. Most of them are fairly harmless and benign. The Angels deal with most of the bad ones.
Anons if you just ignore that there are techniques for astral projection that you can perform for yourself then you guys just suck and shouldn't have an opinion on this topic at all. There's a huge amount of anecdotal/historical evidence too for the reality of astral projection. During the boomer area there were so called professionals denying people could lucid dream and before that there were some who denied anyone could dream in color. Astral projection is just one step further in the overton window that is becoming widely accepted by doctors, scientists, etc. everywhere but the general public still needs to catch on and the scoffers need to stop scoffing too and actually engage with the evidence. For me personally astral projection is old news, baby shit, first steps into a whole other side of reality that opens up many new questions and mysteries but for those who've never done it I'm sure it'll be impressive when it's there first time doing it. There's whole communities in our world where this kind of knowledge is so common and accepted but then there's still lots of people who are just ignorant about man's second body that survives the death of his first body. If anything we should not be asking all the time "what happens after the first death" but instead "is there a second death and what happens after that". Worry about what might become of your ghost potentially under certain circumstances if you want to worry about something.
>>534225709This is more or less the conclusion I am leaning toward. There must be sone form of fundamental existence, an Absolute so to speak. Which many cultures align with the concept of God. My personal suspicion is that this fundamental existence is, indeed, consciousness. I am no expert on the Holographic principle but I believe it could support that notion. Assuming this is correct, that would then suggest that ‘God’ is consciousness. And we are all just fragments of this eldritch consciousness that makes up reality.
>>534205750If the universe follows recursive fractal dynamics, which it does, and so does the mind. Then the only logical conclusion is to safely assume death isn’t the end of the patterns.
>>534208371You don’t know the hour nor the day you fucking Protestant dog
>>534225784Are you claiming to be from the Monroe institute?I don't think you should use such historically loaded and ambiguous terms like "angel" where people will just project all kinds of shit onto that and never know exactly what you're saying.I also don't like the way you describe the supposed ultimate goal.We're already all one. Oneness is not a goal. It's a reality. Just as the hand is one with the body.The real goal is the realization of the self and the laws of mentalism. Whoever realizes the self shall perfectly control everything that is subordinate to the self. It's an ever growing higher degree of awareness that is the goal. Like how if you do the Energy Work practices of Robert Bruce you'll develop a high level of body awareness, or if you take CBD you get a high level of body awareness, in either case you feel in great detail everything in your own body. Well we need to become very aware of all that goes on in our body, in our mind, and mind at large. High levels of awareness allow us perfect self-control, mastery over the laws of nature/mind, and to experience everything more vividly and in a more expanded way that leads to increasing degrees of omniscience. Just as one can be aware of having two arms, one can even become aware of having two minds and two bodies, and so on expanding that perception to where other people around you feel like extensions of yourself.
>>534225906Reality is an infinite fractal loop of dreamers dreaming dreamers dreaming dreamers. Montalk.net explains it well. Another way of putting it is tulpas making tulpas. Another way is "disassociated mind-complexes". Mind birthing mind, absorbing mind, reducing into mind, expanding into mind, etc. Rudolf Steiner also explains this stuff really well.
>>534226223>tulpas making tulpas
>>534225916He's just some LARPer trying to hijack a religion to reinterpret it towards pro-white goals but the boomers who give half a shit about religion are all dying off and he doesn't realize the new generation doesn't care about that jewish book of fables at all. Basically no different than a National Socialist in the 1940s trying to creative positive Christianity. These kinds of attempts will stop eventually when everyone just realizes the money and influence pool has dried up completely and the grifters who tried to use the dead religion towards their goals no longer have a target audience because everyone's just moved on from the dead religion and the last churches shut down. Christianity got its life and identity from a Roman emperor trying to create a state religion that creates intermediaries between the people and the heavens and at the point that religion was crystalizing the original impulse that gave it life was already largely dead for generations, the people who could actually produce phenomena having again become obscure. The only reason a religion gets big in the first place is someone figures out how to heal the sick, know the thoughts of men, etc. aka produce psychic phenomena. Nobody would give a shit about Christ if he and his apostles didn't produce so called "miracles", only other way then to get a religion to get big is be like Mohammad and force everyone at the sword to LARP with you since you can't yourself produce psychic phenomena. The so called religious people of today cry at funerals and fail to produce any psychic phenomena at all.
>>534226392Making a tulpa and then questioning it intensely at various stages of its development to see what it can do independently of you, what it can think about it, what it can perceive, what it's been up to, what it remembers, etc. can give many insights into reality. There was a Norwegian anon I knew many years ago who went through some really wild things because I questioned her tulpas for her and she realized definitively that they had certain abilities that made it absolutely clear they had an independent existence and abilities that contradict the narrative of "purely contained within my isolated mind". She came to realize that the boundaries of mind are not real boundaries and that all minds are connected to and interact with each other. There's no such thing as a "private thought".
>>534205750This is the only side. The concept of you lives on in your genes but even if they don't get passed down the ideas of your parts reemerge in different settings throughout time and throughout the universe
>>534205750Humans are not special.When it comes to death we are the same as all the other organisms.There is no soul.Consciousness has evolved for better survival.Consciousness ends when the organism that allows it dies.The idea of a soul and heaven/hell is just a gigantic cope, coming from the fear of the unknown.
>>534205750oblivion or reincarnation. i think these are the only two options that make sense.
>>534205750I don't like to think about it. Because it reminds me of the conscious process of thought and the incomprehensible nature of not being conscious, which is what awaits you in death. At best that state is momentary before consciousness returns. At worst it is permanent.
>>534208902We all spent millions of years dead before we were born
>>534226591>all minds are connected to and interact with each other. There's no such thing as a "private thought"How can I use this knowledge to trigger the libtards
>>534205750If /pol/ think they're smart now, wait til they arrive at death.
I have no idea and at this point once I'm dead, I'll just punch in to heaven and be with the people I spent my life with and maybe those who I never got to meet
coming to terms with worshipping jews over your godsbest case scenario: permenant erasure
>>534205750Does anything have to happen?
>>534205750Nothing that's why I'm so disappointing that I only get 1 life and I got this useless mind that couldn't truly relate to people and now this useless body that decayed way too early.
>>534205873I yearn to be reborn as a vending machine in a dungeon
>>534205750>What happens when you die?Nothing ever happens
HELLFIRE AND WORMS FOR THE UNBELIEVERS
>>534205750Look up 3rd state of existence
>>534205750Your body releases soul, returning it to from where it came. Then depending on it's condition (whether or not you were virtuous or not) you will be reincarnated into something closer or more distant to divinity. If your soul is virtuous, you will be a man or a god. If your soul is cowardly and unvirtuous, you will be born a woman.
>>534205873That's the Mormon view. They're taught that when you die you're reborn as an immortal in a different world. >not a decent person To the Telestial kingdom with the sluts and wizards>decent but not mormonTerrestrial kingdom with the other nice people>mormonThe Celestial kingdom, only for some reason Heaven is segregated (probably to encourage Mormons to fuck). They believe God will send them as missionaries to the lower worlds so people can upgrade whenever they want.It's kind of retarded though because the only people who go to Hell are the ones who leave Mormonism. It makes sense to keep people around but it means that introducing people to the church in this world potentially damns them while they'd have infinite time to think about it in the afterlife.
Christianity is literally true. When we die our immortal soul is judged and lives on in paradise or torment.
>>534205750> I don't knowYou could say this about everything and you probably do.When you die you stop thinking and essentially no longer exist. There is nothing for you after death.
>>534206390Haha I wish anon. Oblivion is straight up, cope. I will be judged by God for my sins. There’s no escape and I’m terrified Bros. I wish it were not the case, I prefer oblivion. Much less terrifying.
Your neutrons will be destroyed, however, we are going to create a clone of your mind and store it in a matrix where we will peg you forever.
