You didn't really understand the way it supposed to
>>534243765ive never going to see it but the casting of seth rogen implies its a stoner comedy
>>534243765>A bunch of zoomers adapt Animal Farm>It's a massive pile of shit that completely misses the point of the sauce materialNobody thought this was going to be good.
>>534243765This is the equivalent of a remake of blazing saddles featuring a KKK member going to a progressive town and teaching them the wonders of racism.
>>534243765It was a sobering lesson about not letting pigs run a farm, cause pigs are dumb
>>534243765MAGA's confused if they're suppose to like war, pedophiles & israel now.
>>534243765>Here's Why Progressives Didn't Actually "Lose" The Culture War
Is "MAGA" in the room with us right now?
>>534243770They're sheep, they aren't confused.
alrighty anons. let's see if you're media literate.what was the point of george orwell's animal farm?
Buzzwords are strawmen to twist the long accepted basics of a topic. Reject all corrupt corporate sludge.
>>534243765Ancom trannies will try to tell you that it's ackshually about "authoritarianism". As if that's not the natural end point of Marxism.
>Take anti communist book>Make a movie with a anti capitalist message >Here's why you're wrong, actually
>>534243774Egalitarianism is an utopia because in the end it always falls into an autocracy/oligopoly
>>534243765Animal Farm is about communism though and based on Orwells own experience
>>534243777Communism is based.
>>534243767>>A bunch of zoomers adapt Animal FarmThe director is a baby boomer, the screenplay writer is gen x, the lead actor is a millennial
authoritarians behave the same way no matter what system they originally propose. a new class is created exclusively for them where they don’t have to abide by the rules of the rest. currently large banks, large corporations, and the wealthiest billionaires are protected from any sort of failure, to the point where they’re allowed to openly commit financial crimes that would land anyone else in prison.
Reminder that MAGAchuds would press the red button (nuke anyone who didn't press red if 50%+ do it), they are not really known for media literacy or high IQ
>>534243774Power corrupts and just because someone has good intentions and started out as the "resistance" that doesn't protect them from becoming exactly like their former oppressors if they don't have a good moral and societal framework to replace the old one with
>>534243782Yeah, communism is evil and only bootlickers defend it
>>534243782>receive billions of dollars in stolen money>apologize and pay a self-imposed $900 million "fine">normalfags: "Wow, nine hundred million? That's more than I could ever afford to pay! I guess those white Republican middle-class banking executives really learned their lesson!"
>>534243782That's why I find it funny people still pretend America is a capitalist country.
the biggest joke is they spent so long forcing the false dichotomy of capitalism vs communism that peole can’t comprehend a system somewhere in between, despite the fact they’re currently living in one.
>>534243780Based on neurotic Jewish faggotryI think you forgot to type the rest of your sentence anon
>>534243783Source?Because the lowest IQ group in America is the most likely to vote Democrat
>>534243786In the end they never paid it
>>534243782>they’re allowed to openly commit financial crimes that would land anyone else in prisonLike what
>>534243792Tax evasion
>>534243787America is mostly capitalist, unfortunately there are a lot institutions controlled by leftists (Hollywood) who hate democracy and want communismThis is why they're tyring to change Animal Farm
>>534243792loan sharking
>>534243790Except democrats have the most amount of people with higher degrees of educationthere's a reason why a typical cuckservative is seen as a drooling fat retard obsessed with guns that's living in a trailer
>>534243794The problem isn't leftists lol...
>>534243792insider trading
>>534243786>white middle class bankersNice bait
>>534243794>America is mostly capitalistIt's capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich.
>>534243792Like the 2008 subprime scandal? The Enron scandal? The internet bubble? The AI bubble? Idk, geez
>>534243792extortion
>>534243791>In the end they never paid itThey already admitted wrongdoing, chuddie.
>>534243792sex trafficking
>>534243803>I'll just pay that with the revenue from the money I embezzled
>>534243774stalin is an arsehole and i hate him for ruining my marxist utopia - gerge borewell
>>534243796Except we're talking about intelligence, and the lowest IQ group in America (blacks) are the most likely to vote DemocratEven the handful of of "educated" democrats study things like gender theoryYou don't see Republicans as stupid, you're projecting because only retards support leftism
>>534243792>Like what>>534243786What do you think would happen to you if you stole $3 billion from a bank and got caught? Would you be allowed to use some of your stolen money to pay a fine and avoid prison time?
>>534243794Yes anon. Banks, billionaires, and the top of the Fortune 500 are “left” (therefore desire strong government regulations) because they occasionally put rainbows on their logos
>>534243801>right wingers are bad for inventing the internet and AISo go move to communist north Korea, bootlicker
>>534243774Horse become glue, don't fuck around, do as told.
>>534243765who is MAGA? is this some jew's strawman "dumb goyim who is always confused and needs us to tell him how to feel"?
>>534243789Nope.
>>534243810The Internet and AI bubbles have nothing to do with that, you idiot. Stop spewing the same responses anytime you're backed to a corner
>>534243809Don't pretend you don't love the country's most powerful institutions taking up the banner of your faggy moral crusades.
>anyone who disagrees with me and my dogmatic cult, even on the most minor of issues, is a "MAGA nazi"
>>534243774Gommunism bad
>>534243810right wingers are the biggest bootlickers thoughbeit
>>534243809Yes, leftists support centralization of power and have historically supported the federal government as it bypasses state rightsThe rainbows are because they know it keeps the low IQ liberals happy
>>534243815My “moral crusade” was occupy Wall Street.
>>534243766Does he play a pig or a rat?
>>534243819MIGA voters are lower IQ than Leftists.
>>534243814>no argumentWhat is stopping you moving to north korea if communism is so great?The rest of us like having freedom and technology
>>534243814I'm with you on the other stuff but how is a market bubble a financial crime? is it a crime to be a retarded gullible investor?
>>534243781God damn zoomers really fucked up this time. Also, do Zoomers know about that Mazda commercial where the kid goes "zoom zoom"
>>534243823>freedomYou're the best kind of slave.
>>534243818>>534243822>no uYou jewish samefags should try making an argument sometime
>>534243820A gay larp on par with CHAZ/CHOP? You one of those tards that thinks all these polarizing social issues were fabricated by "da banks"?
>>534243779It's about a lot of things. It's central antagonist is based on Stalin and his dictatorship. Stalin was still in power when the book was released.
>>534243781You're not going to believe waht Rodney Mullen's grandfather named his cat>>534243782That wasn't real authoritarianism
>>534243819The “left” never asserts that private institutions should essentially own government. As that is currently the case, as in 2010 the Supreme Court ruled that bribery is protected speech. Citizens united vs the FEC. Reminder: “citizen” just means “banks and corporations” in this context.
>>534243765Dumb esl poster
>>534243799It's a George Carlin reference.
>>534243828>calling for banks to experience consequences for wholesale usury is the same as anarchyYou’ve been well indoctrinated I see.
>>534243774>Oy bruv, wouldn't it be a laff if animals took over a farm?It's a childrens book, get over it.
>>534243827You're way too stupid lol
>>534243824It's all VP injecting money onto those companies
>>534243818>>534243822>>534243826>>534243836This tranny is having a meltdown lol
>>534243765>fence pakistan>fence india>the shitposts stopwhen 4chan when?
>>534243820Occupy Wallstret was an unmitigated failure and what made its leaders switch to race baiting because they saw it was a more effective means of getting socialist policies pushed. You're a faggot for thinking that shit was organic or moral.
>>534243838(You)
>>534243831Public banks are not private companies, nor are corporations. The left only hates private business
>>534243774Pigs are dickheads.Horses are bros.
>>534243834You protested for higher taxes and that's it brudda
>>534243809You do realize those billionaires have been supporting the left for years right?Like Kamala earned twice as much money for her campaign from billionaire backers.
>>534243834>>calling for banks to experience consequences for wholesale usuryIt's not the banks fault that they were strong armed into giving shit mortgages to retards so browns could build "generational wealth"
>>534243783Anyone with a brain picks red because if everyone picks red everyone is safe. There is zero upside to picking blue except getting nuked with the other bottom feeders.
>>534243842Incorrect
I can't wait for it to drop because Tim Pool saw an early screening and is having daily meltdowns telling people to not see it because the villain is Elon Musk's mom and it critiques crony capitalism. Apparently the ending has all the animals go in and destroy a dam which Tim equivalates to 'killing everyone'.Sorry but yeah this message needs to be shown. There is no small business anymore. Companies bought out by private equity or Google, Chinese slave labor outsourcing the norm, Indian tech outsourcing becoming the norm, people can't even afford a house let alone farm.Capitalism is fine but we essentially have an authoritarian oligopoly.
>>534243840It switched to “race baiting” issues shortly after Arab spring resulted in several overthrows of governments. This wasn’t a coincidence. The original leadership of occupy stepped down once “race baiting” groups demanded they do, in order to push their ideology of nothing. This resulted in the collapse of occupy.
>no one talks about the movie (or book it's based on) in a /tv/ topicfuck you guys, seriously, just drink bleach and die.
>>534243765>um akshually let me lecture you on how Animal Farm ISN'T about how communism is evil and retardedYou do not possibly hate these people enough.
>>534243845We used to call that lip service. Until occupy of course.
>>534243847Weak bait.
>>534243774animals fucking suck
>>534243850If this were true it would mean Occupy's leadership were pussies that didn't actually believe in their cause and gladly stepped aside to let race baiting be the goal of their movement. Either way Occupy looks like a complete mess and anyone supporting it is an idiot for doing so.
>>534243851The movie isn't based on the book, it's a bunch of rich communists seething about Orwell while a handful of discord trannies defend them
>>534243851Okay, I’ll talk about animal farm>all animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others>all citizens of the United States are equal, but some are multinational corporations with thousands of employees, are completely unable to be prosecuted for anything ever, and have sufficient revenue to just outright own politicians.
>>534243821he plays napoleon>uuuhhhh... dudes i think we should like overthrow the farmers or something
>>534243852The first time I saw someone say that I thought they were being facetious. Turns out they actually believe it. Then again they are Communists and Communists have a habit of believing whatever they like the sound of.
>>534243856Occupy’s leadership was white and succumbed to pressure from within, hoping the movement would continue with black leadership. Ooooooops.
>>534243774warning against communism because Orwell's socialist frendos were bootlicking commie russians and shit.
>>534243850Marxists switched to race baiting decades ago, even by the 90s they were attacking the working class and pushing idpol instead
>>534243857Have you read the book and seen this movie?
>>534243858>are completely unable to be prosecuted for anything ever, and have sufficient revenue to just outright own politicians.More of a reason to make the federal government smaller and less powerful eh?
>>534243847>if everyone picks red everyone is safeThis is where you reveal your room temperature IQ, for everyone to pick the red button without communication it would mean that everyone is a selfish retarded golem NPC that doesn't concern himself with future or past and is just living to satisfy his immediate needs (like a hylic).If you think that you would enjoy living in such a low trust society that consists entirely of backstabbing empty husks then yeah go ahead retard and press your red button.>There is zero upside to picking blueExcept potentially murdering millions, but again psychotic maniacs without internal monologue are totally fine with that it seems.>inb4 how is it possible, everyone will press the heckin buttonSure bro>Approximately 79% of U.S. adults are considered literate, while 21%—about 43 million people—possess low English literacy skills. Roughly 54% of adults read below a 6th-grade level.
>communists are massive hypocrites who will turn into massive authoritarians, the second they have powerLiterally how else can you interpret the book?
>>534243792cannibalism
>>534243806basically yes.
>>534243863Identity politics did not exist until it was necessary to collapse Occupy Wall Street.
>>534243865>so banks, billionaires, and corporations can just outright buy the government huh? Seems the solution would be to make it cheaper to buy the government.
>miga is so retarded they think "communism" is the threat nowadaysHoly tamoly you guys are brain dead!
>>534243870Identity politics existed for decades before OWS. It was just the most obvious example of how the modern left works
>>534243768I would watch that.
>>534243872When do you think Animal Farm was written?
>>534243867>[anyone]s are massive hypocrites who will turn into massive authoritarians, the second they have powerLike that
>>534243871No, they're the ones funding the government leftists and vice versaWhich is why leftists are bootlicking faggots
>make garbage >"hey this kinda looks like garbage">WHAT THE FUCK WHY DON'T YOU LIKE GARBAGE YOU MUST LOVE TRUMP
>>534243765Yeah I get it.
>>534243873Political correctness was the butt or just about every joke until it came to be taken completely dead serious by the entire internet overnight… just after Arab Spring, during Occupy.
>>534243871>Doesn't realize how hard it is to buy local governments>Doesn't realize it's way easier to out corrupting from your local municipality >Still thinks the federal government will somehow not abused by the rich and powerful if given more regulatory powerNigga just stop being lazy and assuming creating more centralized power will fix shit.
>>534243877>Republicans control house, senate, presidency and supreme court>...but someone needs to DO SOMETHING about these heckin GOVERNMENT LEFTISTS before they ruin everything!
>>534243876But the book is about communism, and now communists are the ones trying to rewrite it
>>534243870Zoomer brained nonsense. Watch the Homerpalooza Simpsons episode. Then watch Fritz the Cat.
>>534243809They do want more government retard. It helps them to shut down independent competition with red tape and taxes that they conveniently wheedle into the law via lobbyists/congressmen to be exempt from. It gives them a powerful military apparatus to also shut down foreign governments/businesses that in any way threaten them (see Gaddafi). The bad people at the top want more government so they can have more power. Retards like you somehow still think the government is on your side (lol) when you are nothing but a useful idiot to them. The corruption is even down in the lowliest county governments who also vote themselves more money and more power at any given chance. Can you wrap your brain around this:Imagine you are an intelligent criminal. What is a safer, more efficient way to make money- Start a gang, rob people, steal from store, sell drugs, OR, pick red/blue, say the lines they give you to say, and then vote yourself legally to get more money and more power? Now imagine you and your criminal pals have a total grip on the power apparatus. Are you going to give it up? No. Are you going to allow competition for the businesses who bankroll you? No. Are you going to give your financiers whatever they demand? Yes. See how simple that is?
>>534243877>so banks, billionaires, and corporations can just buy politicians?>no, banks, billionaires, and corporations can just buy politicians.Amazing conversation we’re having here.
>>534243882>Republicans control house, senate, presidency and supreme courtThen why hasn't Blade Runner 2099 come out yet?
>>534243875Are you not reading the replies to this thread about the present?
>>534243876Yeah, except Orwell was explicitly writing about his time spent in socialist movements, and the things he saw.You can't universalise Orwell. He was talking about communism. End of.
>>534243881>just vote locally! You can out [bought politician] in favor of [bought politician] easily!
>>534243880Everything bad is because smartphones.
>>534243880Identity politics was being pushed decades ago
>>534243887Hunter is aging rapidly and they need to recast a hotter troon
>>534243774jews shouldn’t get special privileges for being jews (baby-dick sucking cannibal pedophiles) like the pigs in the book
>>534243890You have never voted for anything other than the presidency have you?
>>534243883The book is about authoritarianism and language control. Manipulation of language was Orwell’s sexual fetish.
If you're a commutroon, you certainly aren't being put in camps like you told everyone this administration would do to you. But I'm pretty sure if you're ever enough of a problem, that you will be. I will tailgate outside the camp just to listen to you screaming btw
>>534243886Watching a bootlicker ignore what's being said and making up quotes isn't that amazingAgain, corporations and public banks aren't private
>>534243783>>534243774new shill protocol just dropped>>534243847That's what makes it an anti human psyop. Giving a slight advantage to selfishness so civic virtue and the humanity of people who make different decisions are the enemy.
>>534243895You aren’t even American are you.
>>534243899War hawk right wingers are anti human
>>534243896The book is about communism, based on Orwells own experiences with it. No amount of cope is going to change that
>>534243774It's a satire of stalin and stalinism. He said so himself, this was never some mystery.
>>534243886So why do you think giving the government more regulatory power will magically make corporations incapable of buying politicians?
>>534243901huh?
>>534243898>I want private interest to not control government/reality>y-youre a bootlicker!
>>534243906Public banks and corporations aren't private, thats literally in the post you're seething about, low IQ bootlicker
>>534243885That’s right anon. Government is why you can’t move and shake enough to complete with the Fortune 500.
>>534243765>write anti-fascism novella>everyone interprets it as anti-CommieHmmmmmmmmmm
>>534243897*snap* Another for my cringe folder!
>>534243774all the different animals represent different races of people who shouldn't be living together regardless of State
>>534243900You probably can't even name the three branches of government let alone tell me who your state representative is.
>>534243774communism is badcapitalism can be as bad as communismunder any system the elites will always use class warfare to hold onto power and exploit the majoritythis thread is proof
>>534243896>language control.This is precisely what you're doing when you play pretend that all of his examples aren't rooted in the study of and disgust for communism
>>534243909t. bot>>534243906>>534243907I clicked through this argument and it's the most inane shit ever>>534243913it's a shill thread
>>534243904Because the lobbying system was originally invented so the richest man in the world, King George III, couldn’t just buy the colonies back. And despite a bunch of loopholes being blown open in the 80s, did still kinda protect from that. Until the Supreme Court ruling in 2010, on citizens united vs the FEC, that essentially made bribery protected speech, because it was the only speech some “citizens” were capable of.
>>534243913No ideology has ever been as bad as communism, bootlickers are the biggest retards by far
really hate how libtards use the phrase "maga" as a collective noun
>>534243910Get deported lol. Get your "trans rights" taken away (double lol)
>>534243788in europe you are living in anarcho-tyrannythhe government is deliberately importing millions of 3rd worlders and making life shit for people to keep them in a perpetual state of fear
>>534243907>banks and corporations aren't privateThey’re quite literally considered private citizens in the United States of America you absolute fucking moron.
>>534243765>you don't understand that this book criticizing communism isn't actually criticizing communism at all chudTiresome.
>>534243916Anon politicians were being bought out long before that ruling. You don't need to lobby to have a politician in your pocket. You can simply donate to their campaign or put someone from your company up for election. There are ways around and they will seek government influence especially if you and every fucking retard vote to give the federal government even more power.
>>534243916Bribery is not protected speech in the USWhy are you lying, bootlicker?
>>534243921who cares
>>534243920
>>534243911they represent different classes of people. The chickens being farmers for example (they produce their own eggs, can exist somewhat autonomously outside of the state, and end up getting targeted for this, even if they initially supported the revolution).The horse is the worker who gets his back broken with the increasing demands of the system. Dogs are policemen.
>>534243921>public banks are private citizensAre you the same leftist who keeps saying bribery is speech?
>>534243924>>534243923no one cares. you're boring yourself
>>534243912They’re Brawndo, Brawndo, and Brawndo, and my state representative is brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
>>534243914The point is all his observations apply to corporate personhood as well.
>>534243931They don't though, Animal Farm was literally based on communism, it had nothing to do with corporations
>>534243928I am not the Supreme Court of the United States, no.
>>534243931what point?
>>534243774I dunno I didn't read it, I already hate the government and recognise tyranny without a book needing to tell me to so I haven't read it or 1984 or any of those other such thingsYet somehow I feel the people making this movie who presumably have read it understand it even less than I do
>>534243932>calling an entity with trillions in revenue and the ability to be everywhere at once the same thing as a single human being (read: a citizen of the United States) isn’t the same thing as “all animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others”okay anon. You win.
>>534243935you're just a circuit board shitting out a protocol though
>>534243933So you are the same leftist. How long have you been seething now?And how is bribery protected speech?
>>534243938I don't know if he's right but you seem wrong. It's just a feeling I have.
Reminder to discord-leftists that the next Democrat candide will be a Bill Clinton 90s style moderate. You've been abandoned by your own party who want to distance themselves from you as much as possible. You have no home or platform, and your 2020 era was a fad like late 60s hippies had and is never ever coming back. You are historically and permanently abandoned and raped
>>534243938>how is bribery protected speech?The Supreme Court ruling on citizens united vs the FEC in 2010.
>>534243936Animal Farm is still a book about communism. A woke corporation has nothing to do with that, no matter if it's making "trillions in revenue", retard
>>534243940Best I can offer is 5'4" brown woman
>>534243942It’s a book about authoritarianism. Doesn’t matter where the observations came from because authoritarians operate the exact same way every single time no matter what ideology they originally pushed.
>>534243941That has nothing to do with bribery though, it's about political donations, which existed long before it and both sides takeYou said bribery was protected speech, prove it
>>534243944I think you misread his post because you lack media literacy. In fact your post communicates the opposite of what you intended because you're stupid.
>>534243927>classes I know what I said
this thread is lacking in media literacy
>>534243945>it has nothing to do with bribery, it’s about [bribery]
>>534243944It was based on Orwells own experiences of communism, that's why he wrote it.
>>534243948you might have tried to post that, but it came across differently to the audience
>>534243950Doesn’t matter where the [experiences] came from because authoritarians operate the exact same way every single time no matter what ideology they originally pushed.
>>534243765>Soviets bad>Authoritarianism badHow is that hard to comprehend?
Why the fuck are literal commie blue share/CTR shills here? Doesn't BlueSky satiate your delusions and lack of logic in your life?
>>534243949That isn't bribery though, and still doesn't involve protected speech.Why are leftists so stupid? Did you even read the ruling?
>>534243952This post is really about communism.
>>534243949NTA but is your issue is with campaign donations? Okay how is someone supposed to run for office on no budget? Self funding? Great you just made it so only the rich can be in offices of power. What's your solution to this?
>>534243957concession accepted
>>534243952It does matter it's communism, because that's why he wrote the book in the first place, to show how commies behave.You know it matters thats why you're so angry
>>534243958Umm what? I literally just asked a question.
>>534243960I perceived the true nature of your post through media literacy.
>>534243957He didn't understand what the policy is and was hoping no one would call him out on itIts amazing how often leftists will just lie then throw a tantrum when they're caught out
>>534243955The campaign contribution and lobbying system were originally invented so the richest man in the world, King George III, couldn’t just buy the colonies back. They were “controlled” bribery, an admission that bribery would happen and controls on how much a politician could be bribed by one person/entity. Both have been blown open to the point where there are no limits and the Supreme Court ruling on citizens united vs the FEC granted “protected speech” (first amendment rights) to lobbying and campaign contributions, establishing that any limitation of such, is unconstitutional.Read: bribery is protected speech.
>>534243806>>534243903only correct answers itt. either the other anons havent read the book or they have and were too retarded to understand it
>>534243962>shill switches back to the opposite political faction againhow about I just don't trust you ever.
>>534243931>all his observations apply to corporate personhoodCorporate personhood is not great, but it's a low-grade partial hack of a capitalist democracy that is largely working pretty well for most normal people in it who aren't retards or drug addicts.Communist countries do things like shut off food to entire districts or send you to snow hell if you aren't a productive enough coal mine guy, which is the scale of perversity that animal farm is attempting to describeYou could say "my parents took away my Xbox because I sassed them it's controlled speech just like orwell it all applies equally" and technically you'd have a point, but you'd look like a histrionic retard, which is how leftists look when they apply animal farm to ebil American republicans
>>534243951that's just your truth tho
>>534243964It's a shill thread, you should know that from OP>>534243967you may have typed those words, but you don't understand the context of them as well as I do.
>>534243774Is this one >>534243806Orwell was left-wing, but he began to grow disillusioned with the Soviet Union, especially as events like the purges became more widely known. Many left-wing writers and thinkers in the West tried to adopt a critical stance toward totalitarianism, while at the same time seeking to avoid the “original” forms of totalitarianism associated with the right. They did not want to abandon the left, but rather to distinguish themselves from what they saw as a form of totalitarianism. This is clearer if you read any western philosophy from the post-WW2 era, specially from the "german" exiles of the inter-war period, though it is pretty boring topic.
>>534243963Dude, this is way to articulate and educated to be posted on /tv/ no one is going to understand what you just said.
>>534243940>Reminder to discord-leftists that the next Democrat candide will be a Bill Clinton 90s style moderateIf only...
>>534243966Yes anon, the fact I, a human being, has all the same rights as a multinational corporation that can afford to just outright buy the entire media, house, and senate, is “corporate personhood” working purdy gud.I just need to move and shake more to out bribe banks so my voice can be heard.
>>534243970multiple people noticed he's the human talking to a shill, it's easy
I always saw it as a violent overthrow will enable someone just as bad to replace the original oppressor. If you let populism run unchecked in that vacuum, someone will take advantage of it.
>>534243972Of that ruling is overturned then what stops a corporation from using their funds to get the candidate they want elected via different means? You don't need to directly lobby to get your desired legislation passed. In any case wouldn't removing federal power be the better option? Limiting the amount of control the legislation has on people so that corporations couldn't have direct control over how our laws are made to begin with?
>>534243975A campaign finance and lobbying system that puts hard caps on the amount that can be donated by one “citizen” that establishes a politician needs the support of more than one “citizen” in order to run an effective campaign. Ya know, how it used to work in this country.
>>534243948>actchually, everything is about Dolan Trump- owner of media literacy award
>>534243976So the the corporation just spends money on an independent campagin. Pays influencers to push a certain candidate. Has their employees donate to certain politicians. Pay people to attend rallies and marches for candidates. Provide venues free of charge for candidates as those wouldn't be campaign contributions. There are so many ways around that ruling. What do you do about those issues?
>>534243978That would be propaganda targeting US citizens, which also used to be illegal.
>>534243767>zoomers accuse things of being millennial writing>millennials accuse political cringe cartoons as being zoomer writing >they're both actually made by the exact same Boomer + Gen X combo that's been behind everything since the 90sIt's all so tiresome
>>534243886There's a subsect of political posters who automatically assume that everything in the system is being used against them by the other party and that their party has never and would never seep to that low. After all, why would profit driven companies ever spend money to influence laws that would benefit their profit?
>>534243766>>534243765>>534243767Capitalism is flawed and so is communism. Furthermore, both capitalism AND communism have been used by kikes to promote their sinister agendas. And we don't even have REAL capitalism right now, we have CARTELISM. We have so-called 'private companies' that are controlled mostly by kikes and most governments in the world are also controlled by kikes (albeit from the shadows). And these kike-controlled so-called 'private companies' and kike-controlled governments are merely two different sides of the same coin, they're both parts of the same kike network. That's why it annoys me when people say ignorant shit like "Twitter doesn't have to provide its users with freedom of speech, since it's a private company." BULLSHIT! Twitter is just another part of the same kike network. WAKE UP, CAPITALISM SUCKS DICK BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE REAL CAPITALISM RIGHT NOW, JUST THE ILLUSION OF REAL CAPITALISM!!!!!
>>534243774Communism sucks, equality is a fantasy, eat more pork.
>>534243980I wont accuse anything of being zoomer writing, unless it's a Tiktok meme.
>>534243979>Propaganda is illegalAnd who was responsible for that? I think his name rhymes with Joe Mama.
>>534243969youre not wrong, but you also dont need anywhere close to this level of background knowledge>This is clearer if you read any western philosophy from the post-WW2 era, specially from the "german" exiles of the inter-war period, though it is pretty boring topic.to understand the book is about stalin. its about as heavy handed as it could possibly be. theres a stalin pig, a trotsky pig, a zhukov horse(? i think? its been a while since i read it), and the events that occur are basically 1:1 with the key events in stalins rise to power, combined with a general "muh pigs are hypocrites" timeline to drive the point home for children.someone reading animal farm and being unable to recognise that means theyre either functionally illiterate, or have no knowledge of irl history whatsoever, and were too lazy/stupid to perform the slightest bit of reading into what the books about (though most copies these days probably come with baked in forewords/afterwords that explain "THIS IS ABOUT STALIN")tl;dr: someone not knowing animal farm is explicitly about stalin outs them as either only pretending to have read it or being severely mentally retarded
>>534243813Then you’re a retarded kike, got it
its funny you are fighting over some imaginary left vs right while you have AIPAC controlling both sides and politicians getting paid 100s millions in donations and 'lobbying' basically legalized bribes your whole system is fucked and common people always get shafted no matter what party is on top
>>534243774So there's this horse, rightThe horse represents- uh represents->shuffles through notes>starts to sweat
>>534243982political ideology is memes all the way down.You're supposed to just find your tribe and support them regardless of circumstance. That's the natural way of the world.>I fell out with my brother because he is team poopoopeepee and I am team fartfuckvaginaYes, this is normal, and not obvious divide and conquer tactics.
>>534243765>No having seen it, I cannot be sure how far off it goes in that direction>No having seen it [sic]Do these fucking people not proofread their shit? I wouldn't care if it was just someone's blog or a comment but they're paid to write this crap.
>>534243765>just lumping everyone that isn't a woketard leftist as MAGAI really hate these people and think they should all be killed no mercy.
>>534243985He was also presiding when bribery became protected speech. But I guess you think it’s some kind of gotcha to point out banks, billionaires, and corporations have just outright owned both “sides” since occupy, and even have gone as far to make people think a rainbow on a logo is “left.”
>>534243767>adaptation of anything into anything>people think it won't just be a much shittier version of the original material for the umpteenth timeNormies really can't learn
>shills try to shill product>shill narrative falls apart due to being confronted with facts>reee mods move the thread move the thread tv mods can be bought with a can of bacon grease
>>534243765What's the book's message, /pol/?
>thread about a movie>not allowed on the TV and movies boardFucking gaynigger dumb retard mod
>>534244305thread got too real, pls understand
>>534243781>The director is a baby boomerEven worse
>>534244413>>534244138>have cookie based system for bans >poster id is ip addressyep nothing suspicious here. samefag btw
I might see it though deep down we all know its Animal Farm in name only.
>>534243969My god a real person who's rational and intelligent. What are you still doing /here/ anon?
>>534243784>power corruptswrong, the corrupt characters in the book are corrupt from the start>>534243911see>>534243927>>534243774It's a bit of a flawed question in that there's not a point insofar as a prescriptivist message of what should be. The book merely portrays different parts of society and studies their aptitudes and shortcomings. These parts of society exist in any society, regardless of government or economic system. It falls on the reader to recognize the significance of the material and choose what policies are necessary to make these societal parts work properly with each other om their own system.
>movie is against mega-corporations and capitalism instead of autoritarism>critisize this fact>NOOOO YOU DIDN'T GET THE BOOKfucking kikes i swear
>>534243765We should probably kill Ej Dickson with hammers just to be safe.
>>534243831>The “left” never asserts that private institutions should essentially own government.But they know by now that socialism in one country doesn't work, because everyone just leaves and outproduces the socialists. Marcuse wrote about this in his criticism in the USAR. So they need the world united under a single centralized power so that way, after the revolution, there is no escape. An easy way to do that is to utilize corporations to subvert governments until they're all congealed into a single monopolized international one world government.The left is a dialectical self-fulfilling prophecy. They will ally with liberals and capitalists and anyone else that they feel serves their purpose temporarily, in order to create the conditions they need to seize power. They've done this historically in Russia, China, Spain, elsewhere. This is why Russia had two revolutions and why the Chinese communists used to be part of the Guomindang. Engles was a factory owner, Hassan Piker is a millionaire, and Neville Bingham is a billionaire. The left is not a product of the people, it is a product of elite overproduction, using people just as the capitalists do.
Thanks, Jannies, this board needed another shitty slide thread.
>>534243765why adapt it at all? does the book not still exist? why is a movie needed if you can just read the book? it's not even a long or hard to read book.
>>534243774>alrighty anons. let's see if you're media literate.
>>534243774george orwell was really mad about how soviet-backed spanish communists subverted the left-wing forces of the spanish civil war in an attempt to seize power, leading to their defeat by the right-wing forces, so he wrote a book depicting stalin as an evil pig that ruins everything
>>534243765Reminder that every aspect of leftism is jewish.Leftists are the ultimate NPCs who fall for the most basic jewish tricks. The Bolsheviks were funded by Wall Street. There has never been an organic communist revolution and everything that leftism has evolved into is the product of jewish marxist academics. Resist the brainwashing lefties, and deprogram yourselves.
>>534243806>gerge borewelllads, how will he ever recover?
Which board was this thread moved here from?
>>534243982You're mentally retarded and probably poor
>>534244544>that posterJesus fucking christ it looks like one of those bad Disney AI posters we make here
>>534243774Political revolution can't succeed because normies are way too retarded to look out for each other and (((pigs))) are just smart enough to be able to exploit that for their own benefit. The only solution is to let the farmers continue squeezing horses and sheep because that's all they're good for.
>>534243765It nevercstops being funny how the right idolize this commie.
the conclusion of animal farm is to never be a horse under socialism.
>>534247059Nobody idolizes the commie. Everyone is saying the new movie is retarded and has fuck all to do with animal farm.
>>534243765>shitty movie full of stoner retard wash ups doesn't do well>y-you didn't understand it!The jews are shaking rn
>>534243765>You're interpreting the propaganda wrongOkay
>>534243792Treason and counterfeiting are the only two crimes mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, and yet the Federal Reserve does both every day.
>>534247059I think it’s funny because it’s like he lacked perspectiveHe constantly criticised and knew the evils of communism and authoritarianism, yet still championed the vehicles that lead straight to them
>>534247658Maybe Orwell was up his own ass and caught in propaganda himself
>>534243774>alrighty anons. let's see if you're media literate.>what was the point of george orwell's animal farm?It's an allegory of the Russian Revolution and the rise of Stalinism per Orwell himself. More broadly it's about the traps of propaganda, victim class culture and centralized political power in the communism to authoritarian/Stalinist pipeline.
>>534243774George Orwell was a capitalism loving, pro-Zionist, future MAGA Trump supporter who hated all socialism and communism and basically keep voting for Republicans and Israel
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>>534243774stalin was...le bad!!!
>>534243774from what I took from it, consolidating power into the hands of a small(growing?) group of people even in the interest of self preservation and not having any means of checks and balances(lol america) is a road to ruin
>>534243774four legs good two legs better. the masses will bootlick for the pigs who look a lot like pigs
>>534243774Any political movement started with good intentions will work really well because the early adopters are invested in it, but it will inevitably be usurped by those fluent in the rhetoric who seek to exploit the sincerity of others for their own profit. This disenfranchises the original members of the group and the structure crumbles, often leaving you in a worse position than you started.
>>534243765what happened to the flag?
>>534247658maybe george orwell had a nuanced view of how russia went from communist to authoritarian, and how it didn't have to be that way, and you anti-communist zealots are the ones lacking perspective
>>534243915>botBeep boop faggot
>>534243982>At least it's not the governmentAny company that receives subsidy or grant of any kind, or any kind of special protections from the government, is the government.
>>534243774(((Pigs))) are jolly trustful fellows and should be in charge of pulling every levers of notable importance of our society. We are fortunate to have them representing us.
>>534250737thread got moved from /tv/ because mods are trannies
>>534244215The book's message is that the fight doesn't unfortunately stop with overthrowing your oppressors. When the capital is the labor of (you) and (others), then unless you are fortunate enough to have equitable like minded allies the new order may prove to be just as bad if not worse than the old.
>>534243870>Identity politics did not exist until it was necessary to collapse Occupy Wall Street.dudeMarx was complaining about identity politics diluting his message in the 19th century
>>534243921They're considered legal persons, not citizens. I'm guessing you have no idea why that is, or even the distinction between the two.
>>534252609Marx was a retarded faggot, all he had was identity politics>muh workers>muh proletariatI wish I could go back in time and rape him to death with a 24" horsecock
>>534243765Isn't it supposed to be a sequel, where all the kids are forced to come to the decision of "do I support Stalin or do I support Trotsky?"
>>534243774>what was the point of georgeequality is not about equality but power
>>534247726He's like the anti-propagandist, he was a colonial police officer as well as fighting fascism in the Spanish Civil War. Basically he had exactly the kind of experience that leads to a unique perspective, and he was never dishonestly ideological. Tankies hate him for that reason. Anyway, everyone should read this. Dishonesty is a mental habit, it's not unique to anyone. His objectivity is sorely missing is today's landscape.https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/
>>534243774Some animals are more equal than others
>>534243765So you’re saying that critiques of Stalinism could apply to Trumpism?Huh, wonder how that happened.
>>534249272Leftists don't like to hear this for some reason but Trump in 2016 was the first time since Carter that the winner of the US presidential election wasn't the person who spent the most money
>>534243988i understand that you have not personally felt the negative effects of open borders policiesbut the two parties really are wildly different despite the rabid israel support being unanimous
Animal Farm is part of the real communism hasn't been tried cinematic universe
>>534243774You will be sold out no matter what.
>>534253802>The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.That's a direct Orwell quote. /pol/ is a long way from memeing about centipede videos these days, isn't it?
>>534255314Isn't that Schopenhauer?
>>534254138Anon, any 'leftist' has known the entire global political system has been captured for decades, this came out in the early 00's. In fact, this was made the same YEAR 4chan was founded. Nobody who 'discovered' politics though the algorithm era internet should be trusted on anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v8e7dUwq_Q>>534255463No, it's a direct quote from the essay I referenced here. >>534253638I appreciate you even know his name, I feel like all you see these days is treating politics like a team sport, you know, direction-brained reactionary thinking. It's so sad I don't even bother talking about it most of the time. Who would listen?
>>534243765I’ll have to take their word for it
>>534243774It's a look at human hierarchy. It has nothing to do with forms of government whatsoever, but how people naturally structure their social hierarchy. You're all fucking retarded, sincerely. If you watch humans enough you understand that they are not trying to form a new government based on what you learned in high school you fucking idiot. It is about dominance and wrath. It is not about communism and fascism. Those are just retarded ass words that summarize things in an effort to hide things that should be studied individually. It is propaganda that introduces you to fictional topics. You all clearly fell for it. Communism doesn't exist. We just kill people that try to be tyrants. That is reality. We don't discuss it. That was the point if Animal Farm. To make you argue about something that isn't an argument. You simply kill tyrants and that's the end of the argument. Don't reply to me retarded ass niggers unless you're agreeing. I spent my entire life figuring this shit out and you are just sone retard reading what other people say. Hyperbole.
>>534250754You guys are fucking morons.
>>534248284Another fucking retard
>>534243774It's about absolute power, corrupting absolutely...albeit through the consent of gullible people who bought into a grift out of fear
>>534246917>Political revolution can't succeed because normies are way too retardedYou think the current world leaders are not normies and all the people serving them? What the fuck? You guys seriously just need to stop talking and asking questions. Go get some non fiction books and learn some shit
>>534257700Those that bought the grift would have been the grifters if given the chance. There is no "it only happened because of that bad person" because that bad person used to be "good". The veil of decency.
>>534243774It's not very well written but it's more a critique of Stalinism and people who come to power claiming they are going to make everyone equal. It doesnt directly criticize things like socialism, welfare state or collectivism.
>>534257328Notice how you're trying to be a tyrant in your own post by forbidding replies that disagree with you. It outs your whole sperg as projection.The root cause of governance issues is that humans are wired to promote the benefit of their in-group, while societies by definition are above that. The only effective way to run societies is both by creating the most convincing in-group that extends to the whole country, and having the leaders be firmly invested in it. Unfortunately that's nearly impossible. Tyranny comes close to it, but no human can remain sane with absolute power for long, so I agree that ultimately tyrants must be overthrown in short order. However the Greeks already knew that periods of tyranny are necessary to renew in people their social in-group allegiance before sniveling bureaucrats and oligarchs have a chance to establish a new small in-group that preys on society. Today's problem is further that globalization has created an internationalist in-group that has 0 allegiance to any society and there are many uber-rich with insanity-causing amounts of power, only barely held back by public opinion and social media, which is why they sell to control it. The solution is regional economies based around religious traditionalist in-group reinforcements prioritizing lifestyles and ethnic characteristics over economic superiority or technological progress (which should happen in public labs, not corpo product development ones)
>>534243774just a retarded urbanite projecting his delusions into the ruralites
>>534258030>but it's more a critique of Stalinism
>>534243774That the commies will send the useful idiots to the glue factory. And equality does not fucking exist. Do not give power to the "idealists" they are the same monster they rail against but worse becausethey lie.
>>534258348>Notice how you're trying to be a tyrantRight... except I'm just some guy on 4chan you have a choice in interacting with as I have a chouce in responding. Am I a stalinist now or a communist? Or am I just a human asserting a form of imaginary control over you? You are not equipped to argue with me you fucking retard. That's why I said don't respond. I read 1 sentence and I already know yoy're a fucking moron that us speaking with feelings while ignoring the definitive meaning of words, such as "tyrant". I didn't read anything else, because you need to learn to shut the fuck up and listen.
>>534243766it implies its going to just be bad. if i watched tel avivision, seth rogen would be my ace. guy is the posterboy talentless jew with zero acting ability shitting up everything around him, making things worse by his mere association.
>>534243766>>534260143seth rogan is the reason you never ever hear the words "i thought jews were supposed to be smart/funny"because nobody thinks that. they think of seth rogan, being fat, stupid and useless, contributing nothing of value to society, living in a massive mansion for what can only be from the consequence or a christcuck having sold out your nation so fully grown parasites like seth rogan can thrive and engorge themselves in openly parasitical behavior
