This thought experiment asks every human on earth to choose either red or blue. If a majority of humans choose red, all red pressers live and blue pressers die. If a majority chooses blue everybody lives.Now look me in the eye and tell me one single pajeet in India, or one single nigger in sub-Saharan Africa is going to press the blue button and go out of their way to help people on the other side of the planet. I will state with a high degree of confidence that any nation on this earth that is not white would have a majority, maybe even more than 90% of its population pressing the red button. Now to bring it back to immigration. If your country decides to press the 'red button' on immigration, you let few or no immigrants in, in the interests of looking out first for the populace of your own nation. China is a great example of a country of rising power that behaves like this right now. If you instead choose to press the 'blue button' and let infinity jeets into your country, you are no longer acting in your own best interests, and the jeets, who are, will ruin your country and make everything shit.White nations have come under the total control of Jews, who want to destroy them. Those Jews tell everyone that it is moral to let other people destroy your country. Women listen to Jews (because they are stupid) and betabux retards listen to women (because they are cucks). After about one generation of this those women pass these values onto their children and then you end up like Australia or Canada or the UK or Texas or anywhere else flooded with subhuman jeets. Indians and niggers are perfectly capable of helping themselves, they do not need to come to our countries to survive. They would rather live off of your labor in the nice society that your ancestors built rather than build a society of their own. Simple as.
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>>534258342This is just an excuse for people to boast about how moral and just they are, revealed preferences show that they would happily murder anyone in cold blood, in fact they are waiting every waking day for the government to give them a reason. Covid proved this.Blue button people would kill you the moment their telescreen said it was acceptable.
>>534258386The cat is having fun, it doesn't want to get wet.The shills are having fun, they don't want to get eaten.Wholesome webm.
>>534258342This is beyond pathetic watching you niggers argue about this basic bitch moral dilemma like you're solving some intense human psychological query.
>>534258386Plato's cat
>>534258342How is this even a dilemma?? Everyone should just press red and they'll all live guaranteed risk free. Why would you ever press blue? Not only is it dumb, it isn't even morally superior or altruistic.
>>534258342too many peoplebillions must die
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>>534259119indeed
This poll is a useless thought experiment anyway. If it was a real decision the results would be wildly different.
>>534259513The hook is that we know many people vote blue - this happens regardless of whether we judge them retarded or not.If red wins, a double-digit percentage of children die (infrastructure shock, end of life plans, follow-up suicided, etcs.) I.e. the cost of red winning is high.The optimal outcome is attained if everyone votes blue.(There's many angry red analysis of the situation that just say "but if everybody votes red", but that's moot, since we agree that there will be children blue voters. P->Q where P is false is tautological.)Now if at least 1 person votes blue, then superrational agents would all vote blue.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superrationality)Now we know not everybody (nobody, really), is superrational.There's also constitutions that make some vote for either color:* You have pathological fear of death and would not risk it even at potential loss (chaos world) => you vote red* You are convinced that Blue would never ever win => you vote red* You would anyway kill yourself if you witness millions of people die => you vote redNow if you step into the proverbial voting booth, then all other's independently vote with you. So as you vote, the ratio is fixed. This means that you voting red just saves you while you voting blue just enters a risky situation. I.e. the individual rational analysis, conditioned on votes being cast, says voting blue has no marginal benefit.The rational analysis however is not where it ends. The question is then about the constitution/outlook of the group - "will you bet with your life at stake, to avoid a dystopia, that other people will also enter this bet?"It's a neat bind with no solution that could be applied to everyone.It's pretty cool - but also yes irl the votes would also be different.
>>534258342>if the democrats don't win, the republicans will kill us all!!!!Fucking lame. I'm sure the fag who wrote that poll thought he was being profound or something, but it's just pathetic.
>>534260034Voting blue is literally the same thing as playing a round of Russian roulette (with 3 loaded chambers) just because you saw a revolver laying out in the open. I would simply assume anyone voting blue was just one of the hundreds of people who kill themselves on any given day.
>>534260034I loved your analysis Austrian anon. Redfaggots love to role play as brave, when they're picking 100% security. As I said in another thread, they're the Redfaggots running away when Bluechads are fighting mammoths. Redfaggots don't want to take risks, they rather let society burn.
>>534258342Nimwit: Presses BlueMidwit: Presses RedNot a moron: Realizes this dilemma is a problem of semantics, not morality
>>534260297as you ignored in another thread: the problem is that these arent 1:1 scenariosthose predators WILL find the human settlement eventually, someone has to purge them before they become a problem for the settlement's weak.meanwhile in the button scenario, the risk is only present once someone presses the blue button. before that point there is no inherent risk, and the only reason to push the blue button is to save a hypothetical other person that put themselves in needless danger.i think a better analogy here would be>red: the town's strong go to hunt, the town's weak stay behind. the strong trust the weak to not put themselves in danger while gone, and the weak trust the strong to not fuck up the hunt.similarly to the red button, as long as everyone makes the logical, rational choice. nobody is put into danger.you trust your fellow man to not press the suicide button. the weak trust the strong to handle the hunt on their own while the strong trust the weak to stay put.>blue: the town's strong defect from the hunt because "aaa a predator i need to protect the town!" the town's weak leave the town because "but the strong need help hunting! let me help them despite not having a weapon or strength!"the hypothetical thought of "BUT WHAT IF I NEED TO SAVE THEM!!!" creates needless danger and forces other people to cover your ass for the people simply making the rational choice.
>>534258386I disagree, this is very pertinent. How can you trust another /pol/tard when the majority picks red? Like, WTF.Anyway, when I create threads about Epstein they never last, so I rather discuss the red vs blue button.
>>534260034Yeah, Except blue voters are just dumb. Why would I have to put up with blue morality if it risks millions of people dying.
>>534260461>Yeah, Except blue voters are just dumbMen, at this point, I believe you're a chill. He explicitly talked about the Blue children and infants. You're just going to ignore that, aren't you?
>>534258386/threadherbffs
>>534260231Well the genuine framework of discussing the question is that we assume at least >10% of children press blue. Else it is not even interesting.If >10% of children press blue, the situation is not like Russian roulette, since to avoid those child deaths, you can go into the blue voting wager - which Russian roulette doesn't give you in terms of potential gain.>>534260297A good line I heard is>While only making up 58% of the population, blue voters are responsible for 93% of civilization.That said, while I book myself as blue voter, I don't say it's the "correct choice".My agenda is mostly clarifying fallacies:* the "if everybody would P, then" where we also agree that notP holds* pointing out to people that the marginal benefit analysis, while right, is not the end of the story, since superrational analyzation is possible in principle (albeit unrealsitic - which exactly makes blue voters gamblers, where it then comes down to what one can live with)* people who thing this is solely about morals - while in fact the infrastructure consequence gives e.g. a blue argument even if you hate people>>534260461Again, we assume there are blue voters regardless. The question is if you want to wager your life or not. If you are totally fine with living in "chaos world", then voting red can be the logical thing to do.
>>534260492>Oh no, Not the children. Wont someone think of the children? Red: Your children will never visit epstein's Island. Blue: If more than 50% of people vote blue, you'll protect all of the children, Otherwise, epstein's dead corpse will rape them.So, What's it gonna be?
>>534260492everyone means everyone.you can consider babies, but that means you need to consider black people too.
Children don't get to vote just as they don't get to press buttons deciding whether they live or die.Keep moving those goal posts, blue niggers
It's a modern Pascal's wager. Blue voters are retarded. The only way to ensure you survive is to vote red.
>>534260727Your analogy makes no sense, and you know it, you just stapled insanity onto Blue and called it a point.
>>534260843I think you are the guy from the other thread, the one that marked my post before the thread was deleted. Aren't I a black monkey according to /pol/? Well, I am picking blue.
>>534260609Well, assuming no children get to be consulted by an adult on what the best choice to make is before the vote, I'd still press red "for the children" because the majority are most likely to press red so I'm not dying to look good when odds are against me. Children need adults to be alive in a more immediate sense than adults need children
>>534261040>one brown with empathy outweighs the 4 billion that dontoh im sorry, let me fix the image to account for you specifically.and no, im not that guy.
>>534260492>THINK OF THE CHILDRENNo
it's literally red=republithug and blue=demoncrapliterally all there is to it
It is a dumb Facebook brain teaser for bored boomers and the fact that it's captured /pol/twitter so effectively should tell you something about the demographics of the unisite Elon and Hiro have created together.
>>534260971Red: Nothing ever happens. Blue: (you) get railed by a big black cock Unless 50% votes blue. hey anon, how does my cock taste?
>>534261364C'mon, don't draw me with a deformed brain, LMAO
>>534261321To an extent, this fits into my bullet point list at >>534260034. The "if I'm full certain blue can't win" reasoning.I don't think you need the "children need adults", in that case.Your line of reasoning is related but slightly different. Taking the "for the children" case you state at face value, you're not fully sure, but you want to bet in the other direction since you expect a hunch.I'll say - fair.
>>534261461>BBCMutt's law
>>534258342I basically refuse to associate with red button people, they seem brown and third world.>>534259617>using aiNot beating the third worldist allegations.
>>534258342Survives what? Does pressing blue, thanks to the vagueness of the premise, grant immortality?
The Universal Blue Beam Death Laser exists and is scheduled to fire at the Blue TargetHowever, if >50% of living beings stand in the Blue Beam path, the Compassionate Universe Protocol takes over and shuts down the Blue Beam to spare all the Blue Loversdo you:a) stand in the path of the Blue Beamsb) stand in the red safety zone that is defined as literally anywhere else
>>534261555I am actually quite the moral fag and hate "might makes right" anti-philosophy so rampant on the right wing. But red is just too pragmatic to not vote for. Dead children are bad for children, dead adults are worse.
>>534261801Fair point, but the arguments above posit that babies and toddlers will press blue just out of a lack of sufficient comprehension. (Note that this also assumes quadriplegics somehow can roll out of their wheelchair, roll over just one button, and get back in their chair... but ok, fine.)So ought parents press blue to increase the odds of covering for their kids? Or red, to ensure their survival in the event that the kid(s) DID press red by accident. It IS perfectly possible, though not probable, that all babies and toddlers and whatnot randomly press red.The parent argument might be moot. Fair reason for pressing blue OR red. What if you are truly essential to society, or at least highly promising? I guess it depends on the "survival" aspect. Is the death instant? Is the VOTE instant? If there's any delay, maybe critical technicians, in all sorts of workplaces, could train whoever would survive the Apresscalypse. Something else people may not be considering: if EVERYONE must vote, that also includes violent criminals, corrupt officials, and the ilk. One COULD argue that they by disposition would press the red button, but they could also hazard the blue button as a gesture of good will?
everyone knows parents vote on behalf of babies until after they turn 17 years 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds
>>534262509Well if parents conjecture their children pressed blue, they will also press blue. They formostly want to save THEIR OWN children, not be there for the other children in the harsh chaos world
>>534261461>Blue: (you) now owe 1 million dollars but if 50% press the button then the debt is cancelled
>I was born a blue button presser>I cannot help it, I will push blue>this means you must too, to save mebut your life depends on you pushing red>no, I must push bluethat is the only button that places anyone in danger>I must press itit doesn't have to be this way>blueeeee
>you have three babies>you have no idea what buttons they'll press, but it is statistically likely that you'll have at least one press red and one press blue.>IF YOU PRESS RED>no matter the outcome of the vote, you'll be around to care for the ones that survive the vote.>IF YOU PRESS BLUE>red wins>the babies that pressed red are doomed to die of starvation, or worse, while extremely uncomfortable and scared because nobody is there to change their diapers or comfort them>the babies that pressed blue at the very least die an instant and painless death>blue wins>same as red, you are around to care for them.if you're a parent, the objectively correct answer is to press red because the case of blue failing means your red pressing babies no longer have parents.even if you're not a parent, in the event of blue losing caretakers will be needed to replace the parents that did press blue. if you care about the children so much then you should press red to save any that end up with no parents.
>>534258342>Non white people not trying to save their precious white idols...
>>534260034>since we agree that there will be children blue votersNo we don't. Why are you adding a new condition to the scenario? You made an entirely new game.
>>534258342>this is a question about race and immigration and people don't realize itIt can be applied to many things. War for instance, Blue is enlist, Red is abstain.>>534258386People just like discussing philosophy anon
Redfags are just buckbroken faggots. Their spirits broken to the point that they dont even believe in civilization anymore, they rather hole up and wither away rather than trust their fellow man to make the right choice. Meanwhile blues are the hopechads who keep dream for a better world alive, they keep going no matter how bad things can get. The true carriers of the indomitable human spirit that refuses to be snuffed out.
>>534264248I would press blue for my race.Never would press blue for a Jew. Because I know the Jew will press red and kill me.
>>534264341Which is why you press red because you're no good dead
>>534264248When you see a heroine or meth addict waste away do you feel personally responsible? What about a repeat offender getting the death penalty?
If everyone picks red, everyone survives.
>>534264453ExactlyThe blues that get angry you don't vote blue don't believe he majority will vote blue eitherHence why they try to drag you via guilt tripping, because they don't believe in the selflessness they want to gaslit you intoSee: >>534264275
>>534258342What if that "everyone" includes niggers?
>>534260417>How can you trust another /pol/tard when the majority picks red?because I know he's going to pick red, and he even tells me he's going to. Very simple.
>>534264615See: >>534264275
>>534260417By telling you they pick red they are telling you to not engage in a suicidal pact you will loseThey could instead lie and pretend to vote blueOnly for you to die in vain as they actually vote red
Question for redfags. When you keep claiming that africa and india will vote red... what makes you so confident on that? Because the way I see it, the third world is the third world because of stupidity, and not necessarily because of malice. Sure you might have some bad actors here and there, but its not the entire population. Now if we go by that theory that they are mostly retarded rather than evil. And retards supposedly press the blue button (since red is the logical choice according to redfags here) then wouldnt that imply that most of the third world will vote blue due to being retarded, yet good natured?
>>534265003Jews would vote red and they are not retarded
women are more likely to engage in blue pressing than mendoes this mean only men or women should be eligible to vote?
>>534260492Sounds like a desperate cope to try and tilt things towards a favored outcome. Infants can’t even push buttons. The can’t lift their heads up.
>>534265003Because there's normal stupidity, thats lower thought, and theres willful stupidity, and thats pressing the blue button.
>>534265003It is proven fact that turd worlders lack morals, they would almost certainly press red. Also blue button gf is incorrect the blue button is the gamble people's lives button, if it was money instead of lives would you ever press the blue button?
>>534265410that why you shou8ld press the blue button
>>534260609>A good line I heard is>While only making up 58% of the population, blue voters are responsible for 93% of civilization.uhm source for this heckin reddit fact? How do you measure “civilizational responsibility”? Seems like blue voters are actually the ones hastening the demise of civilization with their pathological altruism.Instead of promoting rationality and sane choices like NOT CHOSING TO POSSIBLY KILL YOURSELF they promote some bizarre saviour complex where we now all have to bear responsibility for the retarded choices of a tiny sliver who will vote blue because they don’t understand the question. So we now have to live in an insane world to save the retarded or deranged people who might die if we don’t all make a death pact with them. It’s kind of like the tranny issue. We all have to believe that dude becomes a woman when he dons a wig and dress otherwise he might kill himself. It becomes everyone’s responsibility to alter their perception of reality to match that of the deranged troon otherwise we all become responsible for his death. Except that’s not how suicide works.People are responsible for their bad choices.Student loans present the same dilemma.
>>534265003there's different kinds of stupidbrowns are the "cant even invent the wheel, hates the person that does" kind of stupidYOU are the "the browns can live in the first world!" kind of stupid
>>534265003my wife and I were both considering Mighty Blue, at least at firstI decided red after some second thoughts and thinking about what's at stakeshe was convinced too on red, after some discussionnow both our lives are spared in the Blue Beam Apocalypse
Reminder that if you vote blue, the suicidal empathy option, you believe red should be put to death for not joining the death cult, as you would believe voting red is a threat to your and the cult's life.Leftists literally think you're killing them all by choosing the only logical choice and would want to retaliate.
Sounds wildly similar to the COVID 'nobody is safe until everybody is safe' nonsense, and the vaccine push. I said no to that stupid mandated shot, and I'd choose red here. Not my responsibility to save retards, bleeding heart libtards, and suicidal idiots.
>>534263105>the harsh chaos world is where everyone makes the right choice to not risk their lives for no reason
>>534258342Is there some sort of a map/chart on which region voted how?
>>534258342The question is selfishness vs egalitarianism. Selfishness is obviously the order of the day.
>>534264248Civilization is based on billions of years of evolution where those who made the best choices survived. Blue retards are dead ends. They won’t be a part of the future either way. They’ll probably make a bunch of other retarded choices and claim moral superiority while doing so and their genes will die out.
>>534265410The selfish conservative faction is always threatened by the very existence of anything else.
>>534265795it seems to be a vote disconnected from all things completely, which i dont believe at all
>>534260034Obviously people who can't think for themselves can't vote or the concept would be retarded. Whoever sets up the vote wouldn't count kids and downies in as it would just be a coin flip.
>>534265003Is not that complicated. Red simply is the correct answer, the Blue button is a trap, because is a trick question. I don't get why would you keep contemplating it as an option over imaginary assumptions after all this worthless thinking about.
>>534260492>you MUST trust the other two men to go blue with you even though you know with 99% certainty they won't
>>534265802No, the question is an attempt to get you to equate the most base level of survival with selfishness or to view it in a negative light, enforcing nihilism. The whole premise of being forced to pick one is a bit mad but blue is an exceptionally twisted buttonIt's the house of candy in Hansel in GretelIt's the apple in the garden of eden
>>534258342I realized it immediately and it made me press red even faster than I would have. Of course, I would have pushed red either way, because I am not retarded and have basic self preservation instincts.
You guys realize what happens when red wins in a poll, right? The leftist myth crumbles and they can't have that. I bet you, if a poll with high visibility goes red they'll take it down.Leftists will claim you're killing them AND will claim this gives them the right to "kill you in self defense"It's identical to real life.
>>534258342when blue loses:>well at least our souls will rest in peace knowing we tried our best to save humanity and lived and died by the golden rule. praise be to Jesus amen. when red loses:>NOOOO WE FAILED TO GENOCIDE 49% OF HUMANITY BY OUR WRATH AND GREED. LIVING BESIDE ALTRUISTS IS A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH. CURSE JESUS CURSE GOYIM OUTNUMBERING US
>>534258342The most astounding thing about this thought experiment is that a great deal of redfags act incredibly arrogant and dismissive of bluefags, calling us retarded, suicidally empathetic virtue signalling death cultists and so on, despite the fact that the thought experiment opens with>Everyone in the worldMeaning that EVERYONE in the world, including your children, your sister, your wife, your mom, your closest friend's family, all have to vote, and many of them are going to vote blue, even if by accident because yes, it does include babies. The original question says so and Tim Urban said it too.Many of the same loud 165 IQ redfags are so surprised by this fact and call it cheating or that the question did not mention this (it does) or that babies cannot make an informed vote or they are not legally old enough to vote or that they would try to push the button in place of their baby or infirm parent (they can't, it's a private vote).They want to engage with the thought experiment but they do not want to entertain the thought experiment as described, and try to find cheats and workarounds. They approached this from the start as an IQ test when in reality it was a simple morality test, but they were so focused on trying to show their knowledge of game theory and trying to win and cheat the game that they skipped over the very first word>"Everyone".I can't speak for every bluefag but my first instinct was that red was the safe option exclusively for red pressers, however the implication that>"Everyone in the world"Actually meant everyone in the world and that many people would die if we didn't press blue to save them, and that many other people would also press blue to save their loves ones, and that others would realize this would happen and vote blue to save them and so on.
>>534266807Jesus expected everyone to vote red.On fact. He asked everyone to vote red.What do you mean "eat my flesh and drink my blood" meant? He died so you don't have to.He didn't expected you to take the riskThat's he pointYou are not Jesus
>>534266835thanks chatbot. hoe about not being such a faggot next time
>>534266807Red sounds BASED. blue sounds like a bunch of FAGGOTS.
>>534266807Fucking retard, you will be proven wrong a thousand times and a thousand times you will ignore it and keep going.Red is the 100% alive choice which means the overwhelming majority of people will take it. You will never have 51% blue when there's already 35% migrants and niggers ruining the pool just in your country alpine and whites being 15% of the world population at best and indians being 18%
>>534267405Population alone*
>>534267167I bet your whole family said that they would vote red, and that you explained this experiment to them exactly as worded and not something like>Imagine there is a red button that does literally nothing if you press it, or a blue button that literally kills you unless 50% of the people in the world also press it. Which one do you press?
>>534267463Country alone*
>>534258342Morality compels you to press blue.Logic tells you the only risk free choice is red.The safest path is to propagandize people to pick red, so nobody gets the short stick.In terms of what it actually implies (just tell people to integrate and become one culture instead, so no blue vs red bullshit)
Absolutely no personal downsides to picking red.Picking blue is a gamble and with stakes this high gambling against a sure thing is just retarded no matter what reason you pick.People who pick blue simply don't want to be socially ostracized if blue won like they know or are planning to do to red pickers.So this really is a question of how much does social perception affect your decision making.If you pick red I assume you also didn't get the coof vax and didn't watch game of thrones, the office, or breaking bad no matter how many times people around you told you it was great or that you should watch it and all they talked about were those shows for months maybe years.If you pick red you are a person who does not bend to peer pressure
>>534266835Picking blue implies you believe most people are the same retarded kind as you are and will gamble with their lives for the sake of feeling good. That's not how it works. People are not supposed to gamble with their lives. Ever. That's first. Propagandizing people gambling with their lives is also not ethical. Because if you pick blue and other 10 people pick blue under your influence and red win, not only you have effectively killed yourself, you also killed 10 other people.The only sane choice is read, the only ethical position to propagandize is all people voting red. Everything suicidal messiah complex, it's evil under the guise of better good, because it always based on assumption that all people are stupid retards incapable of picking safe choices and rely on hivemind making the right decision. That's basically stripping agency from people. Vile and arrogant.
>>534265885>The selfish conservative faction is always threatened by the very existence of anything else>threatened by the very existence of anything elseKek thats funny coming from a bluefag seething at the existence of redchads
>>534268149I was thinking this as well. Imagine losing all of the midwit blue voters if red won. How many idiocracies exist because those faggots' unwitting support of deepstate shenanigans?
>>534258342An internet poll on a post written in English on a predominantly English-speaking platform is just about the most weighted poll you could get for this question, and even then Blue barely makes the majority.What do you think is going to happen when it is extended to "EVERYONE IN THE WORLD"?
And how is a baby or mentally ill person going to press a button?
>>534268385You didn't read a single thing I said.
>>534258342>>534260034It's gay to include people who we normally don't let choose anything anyway.Everyone on Earth, except toddlers and children, mentally addled elderly, and mentally disabled, are teleported to separate, and private, extradimensional rooms with a single table and on the table is a cyanide pill. They have an unknown force applied on them that stops them from moving. Everyone then gets information zapped to their brain, not needing to read anything. Eating the pill will kill you but is painless. Option 1: You can leave this room right now. Option 2: You can eat this cyanide pill. If more than 50% of people also eat it, you will get a cure and won't die.They then have the unknown force removed and can move.After you make your choice, you are teleported to a separate, and private, extradimensional waiting room till everyone is done. Then everyone is teleported back to Earth at once.
>>534267584I shopped the OP twitter image to not show the results, held it up to my wife while staying silent, and after reading, her face screwed up. My wife simply asked, "wait does red just let you live no matter what?"
>>534260034I agree.However, i'm still pressing the red button because i don't belive +50% of people would press blue in a situation where they actually believe they're risking their life.
>>534269438Do you know what they say about low IQ and their inability to entertain hypotheticals and abstract thought? Even with the benefit of the doubt, why are you engaging with a thought experiment while unwilling to work within its rules?By the way I am not saying that I am smarter than you. What I am saying however is that when I saw the first words "Everyone in the world" and read a follow up from the same poster confirming that it includes babies and that a magic wizard alien thanos snapped everybody into a private room my first thought that it was no longer about what would I do to save myself, but what I could do to save loved ones?>>534270031What is your thought process here? That you can change the framing of the question, the rules, the choice method, the death method, who can participate and most importantly the consequences for people that cannot make an informed option, and that bluefags will just go "Durr yeah I still pick blue"?Do you honestly believe that blue only does it over a sense of virtue signalling, suicidal empathy, group think, or plain old retardation?The original question exactly as it is written is precisely why so many people pick blue, because it includes every single person in the world who will pick blue out of ignorance or inability to think so it forces the question away from "How would I survive" into "What can I (and the rest of the world) do to save THEM?" and is worded in such a way that it makes everybody a participant in the survival of others.No shit that if you rework the experiment into something like>there is a POISONOUS PILL don't eat it unless you're retarded oh and only adults in a healthy state of minds can participate, no babies, children, mentally disabled, elderlyThen the amount of blues would drop drastically.
I choose to press red because all the subhumans you mentioned will press red. I have to because they will. This goes back to my criticism of the west in the current year, that being a White man feels like I'm playing a sportsball game where I have to pass to the other team but they don't have to pass the ball to us. BECAUSE all those shitskins were allowed into the west and to proliferate because of aid from the west their numbers have exploded and the number of people from low trust societies who would press red is insurmountable making it fucking retarded to press the blue button. Open that poll to the entire planet, it'll be 90% red button pressers.
>>534270687if the original author actually clarified that every living human if those incapable is forced to *personally* choose, it makes the very premise nonsensical and not further worth of discussionGame theory dilemmas involve rational actors capable of Free Will, it's the entire point of the exercise
I love all the beautiful Latinas, Asians and big breasted Africans coming to my country. You must be gay.
>You stand before Saint Michael the archangel in his full glory, blocking The Gates of Heaven>His voice booms, seemingly from inside your own body and all directions:>Mortal! Your kind’s time has run out. You must make a choice:>you may enter the gates behind me, joining your Holy Father; I will not forbid you>or, you can kinda stand off to the side here next to the pillars while we run through our registry. It might take a while, but I guess that’s fine too>HOWEVER: if less than half of humanity joins you, you will be sent to Hell… FOREVER!!!>otherwise, you have to come inside when we are done, because we are going to close the gates and clock out.What do, /pol/?
>>534270687Because it's just a stupid thing to even include those unwell or unable to make decisions in the real world. And then people go "oh well these people might not be literate!" It's very silly. However, although I am both a cart returner, and a red presser, if this was announced for a month later, and the worldwide news could blast people constantly about how we should all press blue, I would still press red. Only because we still cannot trust Chinese, Indians, and Africans to press blue.
>>534270843Yeah it'd be interesting to somehow get this big on each country's twitter and see the results. I'd love to do it in the West and account for race, but that's impossible.
>>534258342If red wins the survivors are left in a world where everyone is out for themselves and themselves onlyYou can't maintain civilization with this
>>534271390there's two major groups left with red>hur me selfish (the niggers, as they always were)>i trust my fellow man to not take needless risk and press the suicide button (the actual backbone of society)and blues are>"NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO IMPORT EVERY THIRD WORLD SUBHUMAN NIGGER!"in other words, the useless fat impeding red group #2 and making red group #1 much more of a problem.
>>534260034You say "children," I hear "my argument doesn't work without hypothetical invalids you're morally obligated to save."It's actually an interesting distillation of leftist moralfag discourse, because you can always invent hypothetical dead kids to browbeat people into anything.>"We have to give billions to Africa, or else dead kids!!!">"We have to support Israel, or else dead kids!!!">"You have to vote blue no matter who, or else dead kids!!!">"Corporations need to be allowed to censor what you say, or else dead kids!!!">"Defund the police! DEAD KIDS!!!">"Ban swimming pools, or do you want dead kids?!?!">"They need trans surgeries, or else they'll suicide!!! Do it or kids will DIE!!!"At some point, make-believe hostage crises can't be a basis for decision making. You retards live in a state of constant hysteria because of it.
>>534271390As far as I'm concerned, striving to live is a tremendous virtue. There's not a chance that third world countries, which are most of the world population, will be majority blue. And even the West is just barely majority blue. It'll suck pretty hard, but that's that I guess.
>>534270999>>534271125You want to see it from the lens that it is a simple IQ test where it all boils down to picking the right option to survive as if it is something you are there for personal gain, but it was worded in such a way and the author confirmed that it includes everybody meaning babies too so it is a morality test.I can't speak for every bluefag and I know that some are from the crowd that actually want to import infinity browns, but the most salient thing to me in all of this is seeing how many redfags did not realize that it does in fact include babies, and their initial surprise and denial followed by anger, trying to argue that babies cannot vote or make informed decisions, that this test is unfair or gay, that it does not make sense, which really just exposes how much they wanted this to be an intelligence test of sorts.
>>534258342gay jewish psyop
>>534272108Blue people don't want to kill other people because being a person means you rely on a group for survival. This has nothing to do with importing niggers and jeets to satisfy the 1%.
>>534271390Red wins by default because unfortunately for all of us, shitholes like Brazil and India exist.Even if I thought blue was the "right" choice, which I don't, I know for a fact red is going to win. It's just obvious. Not only is red the most logically coherent, but it's also just totally necessary.Rational, sane adults pick red. Selfish niggers also pick red, but this is a case of strange bedfellows. If they're going to pick red, I'd be a fucking idiot to pick red.Bluefags are just killing themselves out of raw stupidity or they're actually willing to commit suicide in a bid for martyrdom.
So where does this attitude of "humans are naturally selfish" come from anyway? Did we also forget that humans are naturally collaborative in nature too? How'd you think we survived as a species back in the primative age? A tribe that stuck together, helped each other and looked out for each other was a successful tribe. Blue makes the most sense because humans instinctually know that what's best for the collective is ultimately, the best for themselves too. Red only makes sense if the only thing you care about is IMMEDIATE survival at the cost of your own survival later on.
>>534272216>babiessee >>534260843 and >>534263465>>534272253why'd you change your ID, brazigger?
>>534258342only red makes sense, it's in our DNA to ensure our survival over others, you can't feel guilty about ensuring you live and letting cucks die
>>534272216Including babies wasn't even confirmed by the OP twitter guy until later via the replies. It just turns the question into an irrelevant hostage situation instead of the morality test you claim it is. And honestly, even the original OP question is framed in such a way where the blue button seems like the automatic moral pick, using a colored word like "survives."
I think the question is whether society is obligated to make itself shittier in order to save people from their own self destructive behavior. pushing the red button is letting druggies od and kill themselves. pushing the blue button is giving them narcan and wasting money trying to rehabilitate them.
>>534258342actually this problem makes no sense. everyone should just press the red button then everyone would live, there's no penalty and 100% of people can press red, why the fuck would you even press the blue button
>>534272347If red wins by default then the eternal angl* is to blame for sentencing all caucasians to be 2nd class citizens after WW2Hitler and his volk would never press the red button, where is the social cohesion in that?Oh but you don't have that anymore, do you, kike slave?It's always amusing to see some golem trying to claim superiority on anything these days
>>534272216yea if you include people who are quite literally incapable of pushing a button in your button pushing dilemma it makes the whole thing a farce and the choice meaningless
>>534272216Most redfags even go as far as saying that morality doesnt even exist. That its all relative and whatnot. Its like asking a blind person to describe you the color of something. It makes sense why the insist so much on this being a logical test since they literally cant see it any other way. Their hylic brains lack a sense of morality to even understand what the question is even about.
>>534272565Okay, say what you want; still not killing myself.That's the thing with you blue retards, everything is about peer pressure with you, you'll even sacrifice your life over it. Sorry, but that makes you a dumb faggot. Period.
>>534258342You are presented with only two choices, do you have free will?
>>534272430More than one person understood the assignment when it said EVERYONE IN THE FUCKING WORLD you mong, and if you didn't want to leave it up to interpretation then the author confirmed it.
>>534260034>muh childrenThe only thing the children hypothesis does is legitimize the reason why we don't allow children to vote in the first place. It also explicitly means that you agree pressing the blue button is irrational. What this thought experiment really proves at the end of the day is that the world would be better off if all irrational blue buttons pushers were not allowed to vote for the same reason children aren't.
>>534273041i never denied babies being in it.those posts are simply saying>everyone means EVERYONE. red pressing niggers outnumber you 10 to 1.>if you actually have a child you have a moral obligation to press red because if blue loses, your children and babies who press red on accident still need a caretaker.respectivelyi know its hard to accept the former point as a shitskin yourself, but its the truth.
I have a hypothetical to propose to red button pressers. Imagine that you are actually the final vote and you have certain knowledge that the tally is completely tied, everyone has voted and you are the tie breaker. No one will vote after you, yours is the decisive vote. What choice would you make, red, or blue button and why?
>>534272347>its a fact red is going to win because of *unproven headcanon*Meanwhile, blue has actual polls where they win every time and red has nothing.
>>534273193That's great and all but I'm whiter than you.
>>534273269they don't answer the decider vote question or they admit their talmudic nature
>>534273949the fuck is that trying to prove, spic?you're mexican, that last quote i responded to the only brazigger in these threads thats been persistent on a "MUH GROOP EFFORT!" angle.i wouldn't expect a fifthly subhuman to be capable of reading or complex thought, explains why you're a blue presser.>>534273269i am pressing red specifically to kill the mexican and brazigger in this thread.
>>534259513this/threadOP is a nigger
>>534274099My bad but all I read if you mass replying and calling somebody a samefagging vpnigger.
>>534274194>link two of my own posts and call out the brazilian for trying to make his opinion seem more popular>HURRRR MASS REPLYINGagain, wouldn't expect a fifthly subhuman to be capable of reading or complex thoughtthe world would be better off without you and thats why im pressing red.
Voting blue is the one of the most irrational and insane choice you can make. It's simplicity reveals everything wrong with not just the person voting blue, but with the core of Western civilization. If we lived in a Civilization, where blue was the "good" choice, then we would see many examples of our Civilization following similar suicidal tendencies like blue voters all for the same insane reasons, masqueraded by rationality and logic. Ooops! We actually live in exactly that society. Immigration, the Criminal Justice system, taxation, welfare, women's rights all follow the same INSANE principle blue voters follow. Blue voters are literally responsible for everything bad going on in our society.We should vote Red, not because we want to survive, but because we would INSTANTLY live in a paradise, where women could no longer divorce-rape men, all low-life career criminals just get executed, prisons get abolished, everyone who needs imprisonement gets executed, the rest just serve their sentence by having a percentage of their paycheck deducted, all non-White immigrants would instantly be rescinded their citizenship and be deported. We would live in the world blue voters think they would live in, if only blue voters were alive. In a happy, high trust paradise, full of people, who can be assumed to have a basic level of intelligence, who ARE NOT SUICIDALLY ALTRUISTIC for alien races they will never know, have never met and aren't related to.Blue voters would literally sacrifice Human life, want all of Humanity to vote blue only for the game to also include all Alien life in the galaxy, just to save a retarded illiterate alien baby.
>>534274292the toddlers and infants should have their right to vote exercised by their legal guardian since they are not of age.Some people are paralyzed or in a coma, what kind of stupid shit is this
>>534274394meanwhile the other brazigger has stopped posting.real organic>inb4 the """other""" brazigger suddenly comes back just to call me stupid as well
>>534274430>the toddlers and infants should have their right to vote exercised by their legal guardian since they are not of age.That's clearly not part of the deal. Otherwise it would have been in the enunciate. It is what it is, sometimes you gotta take the L
>>534274099>i am pressing red specifically to kill the mexican and brazigger in this thread.And kill half of the world's population and possibly his own family as well. Peak reasoning skills from the smartest redfag. Are all redfags this retarded? Seriously, why are they so fucking stupid? Its like they cant think ahead at all.
>>534260034>superrational>doesn't use rationality at allwhat ?>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superrationalityofc it's made up bullshit meant to be confusing that came after 1950
Actually, I think I went too hard. I didn't mean to offend you guys, or drive you towards a cliff. It's alright if you want to pick red, it's your individual choice. I am picking blue. Don't take too personal.
>>534274470it's a retarded dilemma is what I'm saying
>>534258342There is zero reason for reds to piss and shit their pants about this so much.It's genuinely weird how much you all care here. It's simple as, I don't want to live in a world without blues.
>>534258342it's actually just a test to see if you are a suicidal altruist, which all libs are, which we already knew, so kinda pointless
>>534274495oh no, im killing>a notable chunk of non-whites (at least 45% of them, since thats the bare minimum to make the red/blue be 50/50)>all the liberals dragging white societies down to save those niggers>guilt trippers that want you to press a suicide button to save them because THEY pressed it!>all the over caring faggots that think the only way to help someone is to save them from ALL of their mistakes.>the parents that sacrificed themselves to save some random nigger baby instead of pressing the red button to ensure that someone is there to take care of their own (anti-family)while leaving behind>the people that trust you to not press the kill yourself button (the ones that actually make a high trust society work)>the last 45% of self destructive niggers (with no white liberals to prop them up, they'll die out FOR GOOD)>the parents that understand that if the vote fails, someone needs to be there to protect the children that that accidentally pressed red (pro-family)oh no! how horrible!things will be hard for a few years but we'll ultimately be better for getting rid of the useless fat and parasites.i will willingly bear the weight of being the sole cause for four billion deaths if it means that the world is better off for it.what you dont understand is that even in a hypothetical perfect 50/50 where im the tie breaker, the blue side is more of a net negative for the globe than the red side.due to the fact that you are suicidally empathetic you see anything less than potentially killing yourself for an unknown number as pure evil.and for that reason, getting rid of (you) and all your ilk is the greatest good one can accomplish no matter the cost.>>534275057i want you to not die.but if you willingly press the blue button even after all the discussion about why you shouldnt, then there is something deeply wrong with you that proves you are incompatible with civilized society.
>>534275441Cope and seethe
>>534275581the hypothetical specifically puts me as the tiebreakerso sorry, 50% of the planet dies.
>>534275581He literally did the meme lol
>>534275619At least you are honest about it. Most redfags cope hard by claiming they had nothing to do with 50% of the planet dying.
>>534258342>There are 2 buttons>Whatever button you press will kill the other colour-pressers>It doesn't matter what they press you will survive anywayWhat button do you press, anon, red or blue?
>>534275858Do i get to know which ones my immediate family pressed before I press my button? What about a list of world leaders and important billionaires?
>>534260034Your thought process relies on the assumption that the great relief of death is bad.I would press the red button because I want good people to be free from this hellish plane. That's why superrational agents should press red.
>>534274308You said a single word and replied to 3 posts and it looked to me like mass replying shit so I didn't bother to look into it. But now that I did, your rationalization for pressing red even after knowing that some of your closest family pressed blue follows a trend that redfags continue to see only themselves and their most immediate circle to a fault.You would think that your wife would want to press blue wanting to save her baby, her parents would want to press blue to save her and their grandchildren, your own family would want to save their newphews and your wife and their family in law, your friends save your family, their family save your friends, their family save their family, their neighbors save their family and so as interconnected effort to save every single person they know. But you instead see a billion families as units entirely separate from one another who will all ironically vote red at the cost of half of their loved ones dying because in the end it is all game theory. Truly an ugly, ugly world. Browns are not that heartless by the way. If this happened in real life blue would win again because redfags would have to actually follow the rules and be aware that their families are at risk, no matter how much they boast that every single one of their family member would vote red.
>>534275154Here's the kicker; every single one that's had an abortion or advocates for abortion is a red picker IRL.On my end there's no hypocrisy, I push red, openly admit it, and am pro abortion. However, many of them (maybe most) are making the argument that everyone, no matter what, must be saved. Children that can't comprehend what's happening most of all. Then they proceed kill their unborn child because it poses a potential threat to their own life.
>in a homogenous society Blue, always, or you're a selfish parasite >in modern multicultural society Anything but red is suicidal
>>534276246let me rephrase it like this>you have two babies>you know for a fact that one pushed red and one pushed blue>you know for a fact that every possible caretaker for these two babies pushed blue>you are the only possible caretaker for that baby that pushed reddo you push blue, knowing that if it fails the little one will be left to a horrible fate, or do you push red so that in the event that blue fails the baby that accidentally pushed red can be cared for?i want you to actually THINK about this.
>press red: you survive>press blue: you might dieI'm pressing blue, but you better deliver and kill me for real this time I'm still upset I got all those covid vaccines for nothing.
>>534276514I understand your point perfectly, you're being pragmatic, rather 1 dead son than 3 dead sons and yourself. You seem to believe that you're speaking on a level above what I can comprehend because I'm brown or whatever, but what I am saying is that you must realize the incredible irony that 100% of families around the world would lose several loved ones, between 20 and 49% each because in your world they all voted red as individual units following said pragmatic approach.In my world I know that people are much more emotionally driven and knowing that their loved ones are at risk they would vote blue, and without the need of planning or coordination it would become a worldwide net of blue pressers because in truth by wanting to protect your baby your wife wants to protect your baby and you and her mother wants to protect your wife, and her cousin wants to protect your mother in law, and her daughter wants to protect your mother in law's friend, and her son wants to protect her mother and his friend wants to protect his best friend, and his brother wants to protect him, his teacher wants to protect his brother, the teacher's boyfriend wants to protect her, that guy also happened to be a beloved person in his community and they all care about him in some level and they all have people that care about them.You may not know any of those people past the third level but they are all connected to you. I'm not a bluefag just because I know people I love and care about would die, I know they we all become a net. The fundamental flaw of red is that many a great deal of redfags are completely unaware that this test includes babies and other people, just look at literally every single discussion about this here or any other platform.
Chance the requirement for 100% of the people to press the blue button, and watch their moral high ground crumble
>>534276344There is never any moral justification for pressing blue
>>534260034the presumption is that you are presenting the choice to those too 'vulnerable' to understand the consequences. and then a flood of 'saviors' using that presumption to justify their rush to rescue.are you presenting the choice to those incapable of understanding it's consequences? Y or N
>>534260297are you a one box or two box?different question but similarhttps://youtu.be/Ol18JoeXlVIIs there overlap between 'blue' and 'both'? I suspect yes
>>534277587>just completely change the hypothetical so that I cant be wrong and watch the moral high ground crumble
>>534273668>>534278480>>534276262
>>534277291>entirety of mexico dies not making a good point in favor of blue.that aside, you have danced around my question entirely.again, everyone you know has pressed blue except for one of your babies who couldnt understand the question.do you truly, TRULY believe that there is a 100% chance of blue winning? i dont think you do, i think you know that deep down that there's a chance that blue loses and that baby is left to die a horrible death.>muh worldwide net of blue!your shitty net gets shattered the second india, africa, and china are included into the vote. every single one of them, without fail, will press red because>mannn why dem pepo be pressin bloo n sheet! im livin today yo!!>SARRS IF I DIE THAT MEANS I SCAMMED ALL THOSE WHITE PEOPLE FOR NOTHING! IM PRESSING RED!!!>ching chong i am genetically evolved to backstab whenever possible. i'll convince my boss to press blue and then press red myself so i can take his place! (his boss also pressed red with the same thought process)thats the main issue with blue, you can NOT beat infinite subhumans from the other side of the ocean.the net is, ironically, pressing red so that after the vote there's more of your people to maintain your way of life and defend it from infinite subhumans.there are ~133M people living in mexico.africa, india, and china combined are ~4.5 BILLION. there are 8.3 billion people on earth.you are playing chicken with a stream of fucking lava.you are going to DIE.
>>534258342didn't care the first time I saw this thread a week ago.don't care 753 of the same thread now.faggot.
>>534278733He already stated that he thinks most chinks/jeets/niggers will vote blue because they have a web of human connections they want to save. So you're not really engaging with his point.Whether they would or not, who knows. You just have 2 different opinions on what other people would do. This is boring and gay.
>>534278733See, the thing is I don't live in your world, I see that people are much more than individual units, that they have much more reason to care and that you're projecting your reverse-niggerdom into niggers and jeets. I don't abide by your terms and refuse to fall into your world.I'm going all in on blue, and we will win (again) and you will seethe impotently as 100% of your friends and loved ones live full lives together with you. Then one day, when you have enjoyed a great and wholesome life, raised a great and beautiful family and have experienced all the happiness the world has to offer, you will bitterly tell to yourself "fucking bluefags I wish they had all died." Sucks to suck buddy.
>>534278733>every one of them without fail will press redretarded, but lets just say its hyperbole and excuse the absolutism. Those societies and cultures are all magnitudes more collectivist than our own, their races are much more ethnocentric than our own, their countries outside of some asian countries have massive birthrates compared to ours so their families are bigger, and africa has almost 200 million more christians than europe does.They have every reason to vote blue in higher magnitudes than western countries. In fact, they are generally communist/socialist/ethnic narcissists when they vote in western countries or take political polls.
A baby is born and has a penis. Do you:a) cut the tip of his dick off to conform to the massesb) admit that is suffering and not do that
>>534258386Sigh
>>534275581
>>534271390You actually can. Altruism is often rational. What can't maintain a civilization is hordes of naive self sacrificing virtue signalers. Nothing of value will be permanently lost.
id vote red on sole principle of watching you blue faggs die
>>534272216I can't save the millions of babies that die every year as is. Will pick red without a shred of guilt. Even if it is sad and unfortunate.
>>534273668>public hypothetical pollsDo the buttons where "living" becomes "gets $10,000" and I'll take that as evidence blue has a shot.
>>534279146you are operating on the hope that other brown people think exactly like you.i am operating on the reality of the situation.niggers are defined by the fact that they have extremely weak family cohesion and constantly tear each other downjeets are defined by the fact that they will scam anybody and everybody to get the leg up. and chinks are defined by the fact that they are at best indifferent to the suffering of their own kind.these people do not care if they'd lose everyone that they love, their mindset is purely "they should've pressed red!", they cannot comprehend any greater or more complex line of thought than that.i mean shit, the whole reason africa is still the third world is because they are incapable of cooperating long enough to even maintain any infrastructure that we give them. if you think those "people" will press blue you're fucking insane>>534279157they're only collectivist by name.if you think that china is communist to help the worse off people then you are poorly mistaken.
>>534279761>without guiltFuck youuu at least feel guilty redscum reeeee
>>534279428So these people would vote red and proclaim they voted blue. And if I vote red I get to live in a world with people like your picrel? This just solidifies that I picked the better option with blue.
>>534258342It seems to me like an economic analogy, communism sounds great if everyone works equally for it but there will inevitably be people that don't. With capitalism/individualistic systems everyone is reasonable for their own wellbeing and no one can mock but inevitably there will be a hierarchy that is sometimes unfair.
>>534279836>completely change the hypothetical so that pressing red goes from "intentionally vote to kill a massive amount of humanity for your own skin" to "deny people some money so you can get your bag"No running away from it red. You gotta play the same game everyone else is playing
>>534277291Unfortunately the CCP will force all their citizens to press red. Then inherit earth. Directed collectivism will choose red in all likelihood.
>>534279157China alone will tip it red. Point deer make horse. Strategic tang victory. Etc. Their history is people presenting face and being ruthless individual survivors. And they have the centralized authority to direct their people to defect red and use the power vacuum. As racial supremacists they will do so. The one child policy and would you like women in your trade deal country is not going to "do the right thing". They intentionally spread covid after they realized they weren't going to contain it internally so that their relative disadvantage would be less.
>>534261801>I am actually quite the moral fag>I will risk being the percentile that kills half the worldAmazing.
>>534280079But it's a better approximation. The current version is actually "look good to shitlibs on the internet" or "look bad to shitlibs on the internet". It's even farther from simulation the actual dilemma.I'll give you this. The money version should be randomly selected entire families. Like 100 families playing together. Preferably from different nations.
>>534280518Then i might pick blue so my naive neice gets the bag too.
>>534280048>I voted blue to kill myself>This is not egoistical even thought some want you to live
>>534263746The question as phrased, before redfags twisted it, was "will you press the button where every one lives (blue) or will you press the button that will save you but guaranteed kill people (red)"They will not look at it with magical thinking and say "well if every one presses red every one wins" It has always been a guarantee that the blue button will be pressed. It has never been the case that the blue button requires convincing others to be pressed. There is a 100% guarantee that a large proportion of children, especially brought up, as they would be, on very simplistic moral dilemmas (fairytales) will press blue. I'm willing to risk my life to increase the likelihood that blue button pressers live. This isn't even that insane a response given that the very act of gambling on it increases your odds. If you had two horses, a blue and a red, and the red was a guaranteed 1:1 payout, but the blue one was a guaranteed 100:1 payout, and it was guaranteed to win if half the betters bet for it, you'd actually have to be insane to pick red, or not care about the wager at all.
Red is all upside.>on loss nothing happens>on win you inherit a world with less competition.Meanwhile blue has no upside.>On loss you die>On win nothing happens.Its like the world's most retarded prisoner's dilemma where the greedy option is also the one without any risk.
>>534272405It's a western abstraction born of looking at westerners voting to save the browns every single time, and browns voting to save themselves. This has given us the idea that we alone are suicidal altruistic whereas the rest of the world is innately selfish. When in reality the rest of the world acts almost purely with in-group altruism and have no compunction taking advantage of the resources of another tribe intent on divesting itself of all power and wealth. We look at them not voting for the greater good as selfish when they see it as voting for the greatest good for their own kind. The primary conflict here is that we as a society have been pathologically stripped to understand what "kind" even is. We are of all one kind, humankind.
>>534260034No, voting blue is retarded under any circumstance.Red = preserving your own life and the life of anyone else who made the same choice.Blue = risking your life based on the possibility of maybe helping people who are too stupid to have a sense of self preservation.The optimal choice is for everyone to simply press the red button.
>>534259702Your pic but with All Star by Smashmouth playing faintly in the background.
>>534258342>this thought experiment represents every human on earthTHAT'S NOT HOW CONVENIENCE POLLING WORKS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. GO DIE IN A FIRE.
>>534258342I have a genuine question here, as someone who keeps seeing this stupid bullshit pop up.Why does it matter if people clicked blue if 57.9% of people clicked it, ergo they won't die? If the red had more people who voted sure, but the people clicked blue ergo they live and red lost. What's the point here people keep trying to make? Join the winning side or lose, retards. Am i going insane here? What am i missing that's not clear about this. If 50%+ choose blue they win, 50%+ chose it.
>>534258342>Now look me in the eye and tell me one single pajeet in India, or one single nigger in sub-Saharan Africa is going to press the blue button and go out of their way to help people on the other side of the planet. I will state with a high degree of confidence that any nation on this earth that is not white would have a majority, maybe even more than 90% of its population pressing the red button.So whatchu tryna say is, wypipo be retarded n shiet?
>>534258456>Blue button people would kill you the moment their telescreen said it was acceptable.I got the reference.
>>534279157Individualism, universalist morality, guilt based culture, these are stereotypical of white people, especially westerners, and they're all related. Not caring as much for your tribe is the prerequisite for universalism, and it's because white people are motivated by guilt instead of shame that they have a kind of inner conscience, that they'll stick to ethical principles even if no one's watching. Those are the kind of people who choose blue. Not every white westerner of course, so the difference maker is really how much of a self preservation instinct they have. If someone has enough of a self preservation instinct, they will probably choose red even if they're individualistic, universalist, and guilt based. Other people may be collectivistic but they are not universalist, and they don't have the same moral conscience white people do. That's why they'll choose red, they care about their tribe, and they care about saving face. They do not have the same kind of ethical disposition white people do.
>>534260034Game theory says you should vote red because the blue button is not a stable equilibrium.
>>534258342this is called the 'prisoners dilemma' I think
Here's something to consider: How often has society actually been cooperative throughout history when selfish motives have been involved? How often does someone betray their country as a traitor, or betray a cause (example a union leader getting a bribe)? In a real life or death situation, do you think 51% of people will choose blue? It's suicide, plain and simple.
>>534265003There is no winning. >vote blue = thirdies are retarded>vote red = thirdies are selfish
>>534282847To add on to that, the people who vote blue are probably the same people that are committing civilizational suicide in the west today. It would do is some good to have more of a self preservation instinct while still maintaining the kind of individualism, universalism, and guilt based culture characteristic of the west, these traits are what lead to high trust society. But if you don't have some kind of self preservation instinct, if you aren't exclusive to some degree, it's all going to go crash and burn as other peoples take advantage of you.
>>534280736At least somebody's white on here. Browns aren't even people. More monke. This thread captures that. Thanks to whoever came up with this, it really does show who's a pajeet.
>>534258342Which is why there’s large groups in Western society that are incompatible with it at all which are the blue button pressers. Immigration itself is a proxy argument, people cast the most scorn for the jeets & chinks that are being dumped here & understandably so, but the real evil that has to go away are the faggots who want them here in the first place.
>>534260034>press blue button I would press red
>>534282974This, but I don't care better selfish than retarded
>>534260034
>>534281265It's a private vote, you wouldn't know the percentage. And if it's theoretical it's just virtue signaling.Like leftists voting for more migration yet not living in the areas where the migrans will move to.
>press red>nothing happensI choose blue
>>534284326kek
>>534258342This is a test about how absurdly mindbroken it can make red button pushers, and the result keeps getting even more absurdIt's ltierally become "the blue button is everything we don't like">blue button is muh immigration>blue button is muh trannies>blue button is muh COVID vaccinesThe only explanation for this is that they know that their answer is selfish but they don't want to accept that so they're breaking their brains trying to turn a selfish self-preservation decision into some kind of 200 IQ moral and ethical decision.
