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I want to be a believer but my rational brain says no shot some guy 2000 years ago walked on water just based on second hand "trust me bro" written accounts
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>>534274951
Eucharistic miracles
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>>534274951
Then study the physical proof still in existence today.
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>>534274951
All those niggas went to their death believing his divinity. Also the shroud of turin, if legitimate, easily validates some divinity
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>>534274951
I tried this and failed har, even when I had mild belief and went to a protty church I failed. I never really got what it jack. Then one day I stopped going and started thinking, ran across the Orthodox Church and never looked back, now I feel like a completely different person and see my old self as a monster. Look into Orthodox and do not force anything.
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>>534274951
if you accept jesus then it means you accept the blue button
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I became a Christian when I became philosophically convinced of Christ. The argument is basically an argument of logical necessity combined with history-as-such to get to Christianity, but once you refute all other competing notions (including agnosticism, scientism, and skepticism) you pretty much have to open yourself to the possibility of knowledge via a relationship with a man who really lived in history, which is what Christianity is. We can reason about the world and the nature of God with our minds, but ultimately you must concede that God is known to us not through our minds but through our hearts.
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>>534275141
The Shroud is barely even scratching the surface compared to the total impossibility of eucharistic miracles at large, particularly every single one being AB+ blood (universal recipient) despite only 2-4% max of the entire population possessing this blood type, and every instance of human tissue being human cardiac muscle from the left ventricle that was evidently "removed" from a heart that was still actively beating and under impossible levels of stress beyond what even having your chest cut open and heart ripped out while you're still alive a la the Aztecs would do to a normal person.
The oldest confirmed EM is from the 750s and it too bears AB+ blood. It is complete mathematical impossibility that every single one of these could be this exact blood type only 2% of all people have across over 1,000 years of history and location.
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The point I’m trying to make is that we can use reason to say
1) the claims of all non-Christian religions are cannot be said to be strictly speaking true
2) reason alone is insufficient
There is exactly 1 religion which claims truth by way of a personal relationship which supersedes intellectual reason and that’s Christianity, and once you understand that, it actually makes perfect sense that you are asked to believe in miracles occurring through real history
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>>534275282
>philosophically convinced of Christ
not spiritually though. You must walk uphill jackass.
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>>534275468
You should read my reply carefully again. What I’m saying is that intellectual convincing is at best is an intermediate step. The truthfulness of Christ comes ultimately not by way of reason but by a personal relationship with the real living person of Christ.
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>>534274951
Christ was a test that the Jews used to seperate the most retarded goys from those who needed to be controlled through more subtle forms of propaganda.
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and in all that suffering and questioning is the silence of god.
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>>534275578
I'm sure that's why the time of the coming of Christ was told hundreds of years beforehand in Daniel and then fulfilled. Or why Cyrus is mentioned before he was born. Or why the Jews will be hunted again before Christ returns.
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>>534275621
Like a master patiently watching a pupil
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>>534274951
If you aren’t really believing in it, you shouldnt bother
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>>534274951
You don't. The Bible is not examined physically, it's examined spiritually.
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>>534274951
https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-15712935/jesus-resurrection-shroud-turin-experiment.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

I already believe in the divinity I just don't think he likes us very much because he's abandoned us for over 2,000 years
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>>534275680
You can even draw extremely direct parallels between Odin hanging himself on Yggdrasil (myself to myself) and Jesus's death on the cross. If it is not a later Christian insertion then the line that speaks of the god-to-come, the one even more beloved than Baldr, is another glaring example.
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>>534274951
The same way you force your brain to believe in the divinity of Peter Pan
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>>534275282
Christian is a religion, a creation of man filled with dogma offering you salvation if you conform.. A follower of the way is a completely different thing.
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>>534275282
There's literally not a single contemporary writer who commented about the supposed savior of humanity and the ultimate being of the universe lmao
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>>534274951
>How do I force my brain to believe
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>>534275868
That's like saying that a developer who logs into a video game as a player character gets killed by the monsters in that game so he wasn't a developer. These people have no ability to think
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>>534275836
Many of the mythologies are similar on purpose, God wanted people everywhere to believe, not just in Israel. Through time they became corrupted, but even then there were some prophets like the Sibylline oracles to fix things and pave the way. I've also noted that the very letters of ancient Hebrew, for example the proto-hebrew have prophecies embedded in their form, picrel.
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>>534275969
Jesus wasn't god he was the son of god, then the jew goes oh it was just this thing called Christianity persecuting the shit out of me and it has it's own false doctrines.
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>>534276258
You don't even know who or what God is.
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>>534274951
Either you believe or you don't. There is no forcing it. If you cannot believe without trying to ask an online internet forum then you are best to accept what your mind had presented before you.
>>534274986
You mean the thing where Christians pretend that somehow because a priest chanted a spell that somehow a glass of wine is now blood and a wheat cracker is now flesh?
>>534275141
Nigger. There's no proof any of them existed outside of the books that specific sects claimed came from them. They just happened to be the few out of hundreds of dozens of books that were not already accepted to be pseudepigrapha. Those books themselves may very well be pseudepigrapha and their mythical authors never having existed.
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damage your brain
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>>534276442
god is Yahweh
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>>534274951
He isn't God, there is so much actual evidence of this. First of all, all the ideas are rip offs. The philosophy is Zoroastrian at its core, with a fresh coating of cuckoldry, self hatred, and Jew worship. All he does is quote smarter people than himself. Second, he is a Jew, which means he is a demon by definition, and cursed. His mother was a slut to Pantera. He died for trying to reform the Law of Moses, who was a superior prophet. At least Moses was married with kids (to his cousin), so we know he was straght.

>philosophical ideas
Christcuckery is filled to the brim with logical errors that they can't answer, such as the manifest destiny vs determinism question (free will), the omnipotent tyrant question, the Epicurean paradox, etc. The only answer Christcucks have is their own metaphysical questions. One of those is "the universe didn't create itself, therefore God, therefore worship this Rabbi". Instead of trying to enlighten themselves and others about the holy paradox questions, Christcucks are ignorant retards who make more of them and use circular invalid logic to explain them.

>I'm a Jew or Atheist
No, but you can't claim to know God. We know nothing about Jesus because all accounts are secondhand at best. He, like Socrates, never wrote anything down. We only see that he claimed to be the Son of God sent to lead the Jews. A lot of Jews were doing this at the time. He was no better than a Faraoh, and worse than Moses. Moses had a better philosophy. Not that the Abrahamic (Jewish) God is real.
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>>534275868
>How can you kill a god?
What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
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>>534276547
Imagine being the only conscious entity formless in the void alone.

You desire companionship you desire to be loved, and to love but there is nobody there. You are the only one.

Forever.

So you snap and go a little insane, part of you is in despair and darkness but part of you imagines light and you imagine others who will love you and worship you and love each other but at the same time there's the dark side of you who is realizing that this is all a fabrication it's not real.

The dark side knows the truth of the matter that nothing is real except for the one. And that the one is truly alone.

So God has this split personality between God and Satan they aren't really separate because there is only one, truly Satan is just another aspect of God the part of God that knows that the void is the truth, light, and love are illusions and cope.

You and I are not real entities we are a creation by the one being who is the only one who exists.
That one being has the ability to give anybody the power of God of creation of manifestation, if it wants to it could make you God. But it wanted to make a Jew god and so that's what it did.
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>>534276258
>48 The Jews answered him, “Are we not right in saying that you are a Samaritan and have a demon?” 49 Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon, but I honor my Father, and you dishonor me. 50 Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is One who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51 Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.” 52 The Jews said to him, “Now we know that you have a demon! Abraham died, as did the prophets, yet you say, ‘If anyone keeps my word, he will never taste death.’ 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you make yourself out to be?” 54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ 55 But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” 57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
>26Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you." 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe." 28Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!" 29Jesus said to him, "Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
Why do you lie about things you don't understand?
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>>534275892
A creation of man, sure. But unlike other religions it just so happens that man was actually God Himself.

>>534275899
History-as-such refers to history as a whole story, not the parochial testimony of one person playing one part in the grand play without insight to the perspective of having viewed the whole show.
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>>534274951
Hit yourself in the head several times until you develop brain damage then spend every waking moment trying to justify the existence of a benevolent God that condemns children to suffer for sins they didn't commit.

You'll know you're ready when you want to murder your neighbour for refusing to believe the same thing as you, and you're blindly stepping over the hungry and the poor on your way to a building that cost $100m in order to donate half your income to a pastor that showed up in a ferrari
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If you wanna wake up, read THIS book. The man who wrote it spoke 8 languages and studied religion in one of Germany's best universities, in the era right before Hitler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThFvNiuvfF8
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>>534276629
then you have to autistically quote the bible to correct their christian misinfo I just leave this to the experts

anyway what out of this quote are you trying to say?
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>>534274951
It's not as hard as you think.
It's simply the fact that there is a lot of evil in this world and simply look at the actions of those who can't stand Him.
Granted you have to be aware of those who use His Name in vain
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>>534274951
You can't. It's a larp. Nobody actually believes the Canaanite God YHWH incarnated himself to let the Romans kill him as some sort of 4d chess sacrifice.
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>>534274951
>I want to be a believer but my rational brain says no shot some guy 2000 years ago walked on water just based on second hand "trust me bro" written accounts
the Holy Spirit experience clarifies everything, its not about belief or dogma, its about experiencing the Kingdom Here and Now, in the early days of Christianity that was what they first did for new converts, laid on hands and gave them the shaktipat experience of Holy Spirit that makes you go - Oh now I See what they are talking about, cf Job 42, the answer to Life the Universe and Everything, but now it is a Lost Art and hardly anyone has a clue anymore, sad
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>>534276760
I'm quoting multiple witness history itself, so I guess "autism" is just you having a problem with reality. The Jews themselves saw Him as God, and He affirmed as much. If you really want to malign Christianity, come up with a better excuse.
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>>534276890
He never said he was god, I know that much. Christian fag.
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>>534276678
christ niggers are worse than the Jews they emulate lmao
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>>534276446
>Either you believe or you don't. There is no forcing it. If you cannot believe without trying to ask an online internet forum then you are best to accept what your mind had presented before you.
this anon is right.
You can't just look up "how to find faith in Christ" and follow a step by step guide.
If you are serious, you will know exactly what to do to seek Christ. Intensive prayer, fasting and other forms of self denial like abstinence/nofap, studying scripture, and in essence following the greatest commandment which is to love God with all heart, mind, body and soul. Making Christ the epicenter of your entire existence, your shepherd. Seek and ye shall find.
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>>534276446
>pretend that somehow because a priest chanted a spell that somehow a glass of wine is now blood and a wheat cracker is now flesh?
No, of the eucharist physically turning into blood and cardiac muscle. See >>534275318
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>>534277002
When you have a real question or argument I’m willing to entertain it so just let me know.
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>>534274951
it was first hand eye witness accounts
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>>534276983
>missed the "I Am" eternal God statement
Yeah I guess they just tried to stone Him for fun. Why bother lying about things you don't understand?
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>>534274951
Choose to believe. It's a tough ask, i know. Faith - not being able to prove it - is part of the equation.
My brother and the doctor I used to work for are both the smartest men I've met in my life and they both believe sincerely. I'm not smarter or more logical than they are and they can deal with it.
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>>534277041
Kill yourself :)
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Just remind yourself that Jesus would press the blue button. That's all you have to do.
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>>534274951
Sometimes I’m sitting in my truck eating a piece of fruit and I wonder how many lifetimes and resources it would take for mankind to come up with all of the concepts required to be able to create a single piece of fruit. Then I wonder the probability of all the shit that must happen out of pure coincidence to create said piece of fruit. Both of these scenarios make me believe God created the earth and everything we can see
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>>534275969
Okay then he didn’t sacrifice shit for me. He can suck my juicy cock.
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>>534274951
Just worship the jew bro
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>>534275081
May we see this proof?
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>>534276760
>what out of this quote
The Christcuck quoted too much, probably in bad faith. You see, every line can be argued over. That is the nature of a religion created by Jews who are demonic liars.

>>534276629
>Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death
A religion for weaklings scared of death, who don't understand non-being.

>Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died?
First of all, Abraham was actually confirmably straight (attracted to women), while Jesus was not. Second, Jesus had to die in order to resurrect, so that invalidates the retarded death arguments.

>If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God'
Because he is the father, he glorifies himself and is therefore nothing. Buddha and other wise religious people say beware of anyone claiming to be God. This would apply to someone who claims to be half God (human Jew mother == demigod)

>Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am
This type of braggery makes Jesus the worst prophet
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>>534277077
He just said he was there at creation he was used to create the world that doesn't mean he's Yahweh. Dummy christian .
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>>534274951
It is God who calls. You can't do anything.

If you don't believe after reading the scriptures, that means God has not yet called you out of this retarded world of humanistic philosophical nonsense (which you call rationalism). You are still spinning around and around in vacuum of nothing into endless nothingness. Human ideas and human philosophy and human scams.
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>>534274986
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>>534277125
>I can't imagine fruit being created
>therefore jewish fairy tales
chiggers are low IQ
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>>534277041
>real arguments against Christcuckery
Here's a whole book of them, some of which are impossible to counter:
>>534276711
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>>534277272
>human scams
Like your religion
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>>534274951
By analogy, we are living in a simulation. God is the programmer. The Old testament was the old code (eye for an eye, etc.). The nee testament was the system update, brought forth by Jesus Christ, literally an avatar of God (Christianity).
God instructed us, within this simulation, on how to behave in order to thrive.
This is why we aren't murdering and eating each other, like the Godless civilizations, and pre-Christ.
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>>534277214
if someone actually read the bible and memorized and used it correctly that would be rare it's just the nature of the beast.
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>>534277125
>behold the atheists nightmare
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>how to prove jesus is real
just go outside and yell
>"JESUS, If thou art real then I seek proof"

after sometime your proof will eventually come
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>>534277279
Explain how every single one is AB+ (universal recipient, blindingly obvious symbolism) blood despite having specimens dating to as early as the 750s and 2% of the entire population having this blood type please
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>>534277125
>Then I wonder the probability of all the shit that must happen out of pure coincidence
When the chemicals that make our universe combine on our planet in primordial soup (ancient ocean), and lightning hits the primordial soup, organic compounds are born which can generate life as we know it. This has been proven in the 50's and is science. The probability of life is high, and we are certainly not the only life in the universe
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>>534275282
>The argument is basically an argument of logical necessity
You're confusing "logical necessity" with personal feelings.
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>>534277228
>>534277214
>>534277386
>wilfully blind
Never gets old, the prophecies of Messiah were there before any "Jew" ever existed.
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>I know it's fake
>My brain says it's fake
>Please help me gaslight myself to believe the 2000 year slave psyop by the blood cabal elite

Some people are just born golems lmao
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>>534277393
yeah except all that stuff about not tempting Yahweh. It's implied you're supposed to have faith and so on.
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>>534277398
Let's see the actual evidence
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>>534274951
According to the ultra devout catholics from the church i used to attend, the 'simple minded' are lucky because faith comes so naturally for them and they have little headspace for doubt. So apply picrel I guess
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>>534277435
Yahshua was not Yahweh on the stick. That is just christian autism, I don't even hate jews because they just know from being autistic too there's something wrong with Christianity.
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This is why smarter people usually go for Buddhism.

You can just learn to meditate and some theories about what makes people suffer without believing in any supernatural BS.
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>>534277398
Every single one of what?
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>>534277513
Buddhists have extremely supernatural beliefs, what are you talking about?
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>>534274951
>rational brain says no shot some guy 2000 years ago
It's been in front of you this whole time. It's faith, anon. You have to have faith. Always has been.
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>>534274951
>rational
If you want to get all pholosophical, the logical choice is to believe the LOGOS
Unironically read the NT. It is the fastest and best way to knowing Christ
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>>534277478
The evidence is that I literally just told you every single one of them is AB+ and there have been many independent secular examinations of them, it isn't the Catholic Church investigating themselves. Entire councils are held to determine the legitimacy of miracles before they can be accepted as genuine.
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>>534277513
besides karma and reincarnation and all that religious dogma that it spawned from
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>>534277547
>The evidence is that I literally just told you
I don't believe you
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>>534277511
You just keep showing me you don't understand, but I'm out, all the best to you and I hope you have a very long, healthy life.
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>>534277547
Every single one of WHO is AB+?
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>>534277386
It's not special. Most people only memorize sections. I tried to memorize the philosophy and themes. The people who do memorize every word are like old school Christians, who only read the Bible. It does not indicate deep understanding though. Christcucks don't have debates with antiChrists enough, so someone who knows every word of the Bible would get demolished in a debate by a random Buddhist or Hindu, or Jew, or Muslim, or anyone else. The only argument Christcucks ever make is "you're making God mad, who are you anyway?", often written as some variant of "no heaven for you" or "eternity in the flaming rape dungeons for you". They cannot into Greek style debate. Jewish fairy tales make no logical sense. That isn't their purpose whatsoever.
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>>534277609
You will run into real autism one day and you won't know what to do because you're just a christcuck npc.
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>>534277533
Eucharistic miracle containing blood. In every single specimen it is AB+ human blood, again which is a blood type 2% of all humans possess, and again despite so many of these being from so long prior to the discovery that blood types even existed. The oldest known surviving specimen is from the 750s and it too is AB+.
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>>534277513
Nigger if you think Buddhism isn't full of religion and faith you're as retarded as any christcuck
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>>534277506
The same concept is present in Buddhism and Daoism among others
You are an uneducated kike or jeet, take the rabbi's mutilated cock out of your eyes and read a book
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>>534275081
I don't think that shroud proves anything.
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>>534274951
This isn't a mainstream belief but I believe God in the flesh has manifested more than once on this earth. The Buddha was probably one of those incarnations. Obviously Jesus Christ was one of them. And after Jesus there were probably more.
You don't need to believe the literal, word-by-word Bible. It's one compendium but not the only one.
There's also non-trinitarian Christianity.
Don't stop believing.
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>>534277640
>Eucharistic miracle containing blood. In every single specimen it is AB+ human blood
Prove it
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>>534277547
>there have been many independent secular examinations of them
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>>534277653
It doesn't nor does it match what Peter saw when he supposedly looked in the tomb
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>>534277437
Go be a judenrat somewhere else
Preferably in a tunnel with no wifi
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>>534277435
Messiah literally means King of the Jews, so your statement is a Jewish lie. There can be no King of the Jews without the Jews. Also I'm sick of talking about these magic Jews. They and their golems can believe they're the chosen people if they want, but all i see is a bunch of fairy tales.
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>>534274951
Honestly, just start praying, have conversations in moments of solitud, and ask God to strengthen your faith
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>>534277685
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12491371/
Google is your friend fag, stop acting like you're incapable of using it for all of two seconds. This is literally one of the first links that appear when searching about EMs.
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>>534277731
good you are free enjoy your freedom
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>>534277513
2 weeks of studying Buddhism and you can defeat any Christcuck in a Greco-style debate. Not a joke.
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>>534274951
christianity is NOT abouth the fairytales but abouth humanism, the start of a religion fighting the bullshitism ensalvement mindcontrol system established by elites by merchants by mercenaries. this kind of systems are not only jewish, for example the indian caste or the european divine rulers. christianism put the god and the son of god in sacrifice, reverting the entire idolatry of heriarchy. you belive in money today and choosen people...the you suport idolatry... this fought christianism... the entire sionism and masonery is the same bullshit chist fought.. the idolatry of saturn the idolatry of the old ruler the idolatry of debt and govern trough fear and griddyness. this is huge, not the water walking bs
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>>534277781
>with aged and/or contaminated samples it is difficult to have confidence in the true nature of AB antigens that are defined using serological methods. In any of the above cases, the types of serological (antibody) tests that were performed would not distinguish the true source of AB molecules as they recognize identical structures in both bacteria and humans.

Lmao
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>>534276446
A stoic kike. Stfu with your atheistic diatribes, nigger
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>>534277731
Jesus literally dismisses the title king of the jews in John 18:33-36
it's insane how retarded the antichrist posters on /pol/ are.
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>>534277926
unless you're forced to read the bible you will not
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>>534277781
>>534277894
>In many of the Eucharistic miracle reports, the evidence of specificity controls in antibody binding was noticeably unmentioned [6–9, 31], raising additional questions about the validity of the results.

Kek
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>>534277647
I'm just sharing what my christian friends have told me you fucking queer.
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>>534276711
Genealogy of Morals is much better imo. That's the book that snapped me out of christcuckery.
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>>534276446
>There's no proof any of them existed outside of the books that specific sects claimed
You're absolutely wrong about that one
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>>534277781
>>534277894
>>534277955
>it is reasonable to propose that shared AB antigens from bacteria could readily explain the observed shared blood type. Even with the use of more modern serological techniques (monoclonal antibodies, fluorescent labeling, etc.), the likely contribution of AB antigens from microorganisms cannot be excluded.

Lmao
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Transcendental argument
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>>534277513
Smarter people go for eastern religions, this is a known fact. Taoism is the greatest

>>534277540
No they don't, not compared to Christcucks. Also taoist buddhism has 0 supernatural beliefs. Also you probably don't understand Buddhism.

>but they have a guardian fox spirit and magic toooo!!
The point is enlightenment and entering a higher state, oneness with the universe, nirvana, the removal of desire. Better than your death cult retarded Jew bullshit by 1,000 times.

>>534277645
You don't know Buddhism whatsoever, nigger retard. If you see the Buddha, kill the Buddha. Buddhism is a positivist religion, in other words it prioritizes what exists, as opposed to higher bullshit that doesn't exist, such as omnipotent 100% benevolent creator deities. (Tao) Buddhism doesn't rely on faith, it relies on the nature around you. The patterns in all living and nonliving things. The literal universe itself.
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>>534277781
>>534277894
>>534277955
>>534278001
>Scientifically, there are methods to allow one to distinguish whether such AB antigens truly originate from human blood cells or from bacteria. Such techniques require examination at the DNA level, which has never been done for any of the aforementioned textiles or Eucharistic miracle events.

Ruh roh
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>>534274951
>How do I force my brain to believe in the divinity of Jesus?
Look at how atheism has caved to Islam in every single space and recognize that there will always be a religion. From there choose the one of your forefathers or the goatfucker one.
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>>534278037
Lol, lmao
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>>534278037
op is looking for something that merely helps the growth process of faith or doubt
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>>534278088
>Look at how atheism has caved to Islam
What?
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>>534277860
>mindcontrol system established by elites by merchants by mercenaries.
It was spawned by the degeneration of the priestly caste itself from a monotheistic point of origin. Really think for a moment: of every caste (simplify this to noble, priestly, merchant, peasant), which of these would be the most destructive to a society if it decided to pursue its own selfish interests, increase its own power and wealth? A god fabricated here, a useless ritual invented there, a morally leprotic dogmatic teaching over there. When one actually begins to understand the symbolism of these classical mythoi and the bronze age shamanism that preceded them, it becomes totally impossible to not believe that these originated from an antediluvian, monotheistic faith which worshipped a single, symbolically solar, capital-G God. Perverted traces of this original faith are still found in most of them, some more than others. Certain groups like the Essenes are a good example. This religion is what was brought to the world by the elusive "teachers of man", the fair haired, blue eyed, pale skinned men who came from the sea to imbue all men with spiritual righteousness only to vanish even more quickly than they came, who appear in the records of almost every single civilization in history to some level or another. Christ was the fulfillment of this original faith, with part of the reason for this ministry being to reveal the perversions that had become of it to the world.
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>>534277781
Anon that's just a editorial, there is no research or links to any research
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>>534278037
It's such dogshit
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>>534274951
You don’t believe add that’s ok.
Why do you feel that you want to so badly?
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>>534276983
Who are you talking about
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>>534274951
There are more than one way to surpass faith and into knowledge regarding the divinity of Jesus. The first is knowing history and the impact of one life on the rest of humanity and the mechanism of the change. It is in his parables as well as understanding the Trinity as it relates to the nature of the universe, Father outside, Son inside, Holy Spirit the vehicle of transmission and communication. The second in the Word itself. It is easy to get caught up in those who wrote about Jesus and thought they knew Him fully when they were just as confused about what He was talking about as anyone else. Most who wrote about Jesus did not even meet the man. How would that play out today? Nevertheless, JC's words alone provide ample information about what He was here for, advice on how to approach and interact with God, the nature of the universe albeit in peasant farmer level discourse, and how the ant farm ends when it does. The more you examine or seek, the more you will indeed find.
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>>534278088
Islam is superior to Christcuckery. Also nice Jewish argument

>you MUST pick an Abrahamic religion
Kek

>it's of your ANCESTORS
Yeah your Jew and Jew golem ancestors
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>>534277781
>>534277894
>>534277955
>>534278001
>>534278077
>In summary, the current article has evaluated the proposed idea that AB typing results among various relics and Eucharistic miracles indicates a common origin for these objects. As AB antigens are mutually expressed by both bacteria and humans, this claim cannot be scientifically substantiated. Indeed, the most likely explanation for such observations is that they result from the presence of common antigens present on bacteria.

Your "savior" is bacteria. KEK LMAO
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>>534277969
Bullshit
You are lying through your crooked kike fangs and adding nothing to the discussion
Go sit on a menorah and smash a kapparot chicken you filthy animal
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>>534278053
Kek. No faith just observation huh?

Quick question champ, what is Dharma and `His Teachings`?
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>>534274951
You cannot force yourself into becoming a Christian, God must make you a Christian by baptizing you with His Holy Spirit, only then will you be able to truly believe.

Genuinely ask God for Mercy. I will pray so that He may soften your heart.
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>>534274951
Arthurian Myth, take it very literally but also read it like science fiction.
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>>534278203
>knowing history
Don't make me laugh, fool. Mary was a hoe to Pantera, now THAT is history.

>Trinity
One of the dumbest parts of Christcuckery. Literally made to be cope. Trinity is philosophical cope to the Faraoh question. If Faraoh is God, why does he die? Jews have seen these tricks before. The Faraoh's power had to be expanded, while his obviously frail mortal shell was not to tarnish his divinity. Behold, the trinity argument. Cope at its finest!
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>>534278241
The article speaks of them being AB+ which is what you asked of me. It concludes without evidence, and without referring to any specific ones, that it was caused by bacteria, which has in and of itself been a throughly debunked hypothesis and was not at all the point of posting the link. I'd figured you'd wrap your 20 IQ brain around the fact that I intentionally posted an antagonistic secular source specifically to demonstrate that even secular sources do not deny that they all test positive for AB+ blood, but apparently I overestimated you. Last (You) because you make it more and more evident you're a neurotic kike with every post and that this is an exercise in futility because you have no genuine interest in discussing any of this.
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>>534277292
>shit randomly smashes together to create fruit
>i-it just happens ok?!
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>>534278290
>what is Dharma and `His Teachings`?
Not my Way, I don't care. Those aren't teachings I follow. Oh, and you just stumbled upon the fact that there are many Buddhas. Congratulations! I think the only technical "miracle" Taoists believe in (sometimes, as it is not a strict requirement) is that the Buddha can reincarnate. Christcucks sorta have that too.
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>>534278374
>The article speaks of them being AB+ which is what you asked of me.
No, I asked for evidence of your claims.

You gave none.

>bacteria, which has in and of itself been a throughly debunked hypothesis
Where?
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>>534276547
Jesus Christ is Yahweh incarnate in the Flesh.

We, as Christians, now have a personal relationship with Yahweh.
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>>534278374
>because you have no genuine interest in discussing any of this.
Sure I do. You just lack the ability to back up your silly claims
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>>534277400
How close is humanity to creating life out of basic elements?
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>>534278276
You're a jeet who will never know what steak tastes like and you have my pity. Sorry if what tradcon christians say embarrasses you that much. Unlike myself, you weren't there for that conversation
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>>534277506
It's always been simple, just gotta believe what God tells you. Humans (understandably) convolute the process with their worries.
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>>534277513
I’m not gonna worship a brown apostle god faggot
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>>534278414
Basic chemicals combine in water, then lightning hits the water and creates organic chemicals. Why is this so hard to imagine? Also, let's suppose your omnipotent creator does exist. What makes you sure that he's benevolent? What kind of benevolent deity names the Jews his chosen people? What makes you so sure you can be immortal in heaven? What makes you so sure he would name a random Jew as his son? What makes you sure he condemns most humans to hell? Even if we admit your Allgod exists, we are far from the validity of your Jewish fairy tales
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>>534277813
Buddhists worship rapist
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>>534278615
>just gotta believe what God tells you. Humans (understandably) convolute the process with their worries.
How do you know it's "God" and not instinct/intuition?
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>>534278523
>false accusation
>appeal to (some imagined) consensus
>you you you
Yup, dysgenic inbred gypsy kike spotted and locked on
Ask me how I know
And fyi jeets are phull sapport jizzrahell saar, but you're too dumb to even know that
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>>534274951
considering how much retarded niggers religious people are, I figure it doesn't have much with the brain.
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>>534278516
>he doesn't know about the Miller Urey experiment
We literally did it in the 50's. Combine inorganic matter in primordial soup (at least what we theorize is primordial soup) then zap it until it's organic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

>when do humans make life
Wake up, you are God. Women give birth. Even a man can grow a crop from a seed. Humans have created dogs and horses that God hasn't. Crops that God hasn't.
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>>534278414
Yes, and it still is more believable than your sand gypsy fairy tales
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>>534275549
This anon gets it.

It was never an intellectual issue, after all, everyone already knows that God exists, it's simply that the majority suppresses the truth in their unrighteousness as per Romans 1.

It was always a heart issue.

>>534278701
Jesus Christ lived a perfect life, performed miracles that everyone around him witnessed, died to pay the blood price of our sins, and resurrected into eternal glory.

Only God is capable of doing this.
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>>534278374
They don't test positive for AB+ blood, they test positive for AB+ antigens which can come from plenty of places other than blood. I'm sorry you have the reading comprehension of a favela chimp
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>>534274951
I share your struggle OP.
>>534275133
Eh... this is close, but he doesn't really understand what he himself is talking about. Like we're talking about computational limits and Godelian reference. Like you can prove there are true things that cannot be articulated or referenced even in theory. Holes in mathematics itself that exist but cannot be explored.

The trinity is not weird to me. A thing can absolutely be multiply instantiated. That's not weird or confusing at all. This poster just lacks imagination.

God the father is not hard to understand precisely because I understand the proofs that show there exist things that cannot be understood even with infinite computation. And Godel incidentally left an unpublished proof of God that validated given pretty unobjectionable premises.

The Holy Spirit- maybe I understand it? If its noticing patterns in providence that guide me towards Christ. Yes, I do see patterns, however strange they may be to me as a non-believer of 29 years.

I'm confident in the reality of a spiritual being. But Jesus? Seems much more likely he was a prophet and his followers lionized him to god himself as a cope. And yet providence guides me to the Church all the same. Why? I fail to understand.

>>534275239
I've been doing this. Pascha didn't move me as much as I hoped. Wrote a long letter to Fr. Basil and am patiently awaiting a reply. So far Orthodoxy is by far the most agreeable theology I've seen. Grace as therapeutic. The incarnation as a mechanic of identity logic.

I want to believe. But can I truly confess the creed in such a state? There is wisdom in the Church- without a doubt. But it is also clear it is not without error. Do I truly believe this man was God himself?

I think I can tell myself it doesn't matter if he was- the Church still has spiritual insight. But that seems to be missing the most important part, no?
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>>534274951
tribal animals have a unifying idea for town hall meetings, not exactly a long hunt more a den.
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>>534278670
Buddha doesn't claim to be God, and there are many Buddhas, and none of them claim to be God.

>rapist
At least Siddharta Buddha was confirmed straight because he had a wife and kid. This makes him (and Moses, and Abraham, and others) superior to Jesus.
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>>534276100
Sigh, many Hebrew mythologies are flat out stolen myths. Mythologies evolved along side the humans that carry them; and as such emerged, diverged, & converged alongside them as well.
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>>534278791
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions but I see no reason why I or anyone else, should believe them
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>>534278771
At best we’ve reshaped the shit that’s already here, and the experiment (((proves))) amino acids not the creation of life
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>>534278628
Hinduism =/= Buddhism, but both are superior to Christianity. Hitler agrees
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>>534278772
When you argue with that fucking logic you have to accept given enough time a super computer, rocket, etc. will appear out of thin air because muhh randomly smashing atoms
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>>534275549
>The truthfulness of gender comes ultimately not by way of reason but by a personal relationship with the real living person in you.
Trannies and Christians are 2 sides of the same coin..
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>>534274951
Just don't believe it.
Even if it were true, such an Evil God would have to be rebelled against, not praised or aligned with.

Pascal was a coward.
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>>534278917
>you have to accept given enough time a super computer, rocket, etc. will appear out of thin air because muhh randomly smashing atoms
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me"

Kek
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ITT: godtards fabricating layer upon layer upon layer of bullshit to help make magic invisible floating sky faggot seem plausible, because their pride will not allow them to face the obvious fact that they got scammed.
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>>534278870
You're being retarded. Legit low IQ

>(((proves)))
Nigger, yes, without the ((())). It's proved in a reproducible study. You, a mere Jew golem, can do this experiment from the 50's. Meanwhile, it's your Jew magic that requires (((proof))) as opposed to actual proof. Because actual proof goes against you. Your god is fake, and you're talking to air and to yourself.

>it's reshaping what was there and "only" creating amino acids
Uneducated nigger, this counts as creating life. Taking inorganic and making organic is creating life. Synthesizing life from chemicals is creating life. Also humans give birth because life creates life. Your retarded argument fails once again.

>but amino acids aren't real life
They combine into it eventually. You're dumb for not knowing this middle school science class shit. Let me guess, you've never taken chemistry in college either?
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>>534276547
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>>534278449
Hold the phone. Jesus said he came from the god most high. In the pantheon, Yahweh wasn’t the god most high; el elyon is. Yahweh was just a war god.
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>>534278917
Lightning hitting oceans full of methane, ammonia, and hydrogen is NOT as complicated as you make it seem! You've never heard of the Miller-Urey experiment!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment
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When political situations deteriorate, people often become mentally unstable and turn to religion.

Although the Christian church has a 500-year history in Japan, only 1% of the population is Christian here.
This is because very few people experience mental instability in Japan.
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>>534278791
>pic related
"You must only preach to those capable of being golems"
KEK
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>>534274951
Try inducing some form of brain damage. You can drink and do drugs heavily for a few years and that might work. Or you could give yourself a stroke or perhaps a car accident. What matters is you have make yourself a retard because only retards believe in christkikery. Alternatively you can become gay and just only suck jewish dicks and you will get all the benefits of christkikey without the brain damage.
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>>534279211
>This is because very few people experience mental instability in Japan
Absolutely wrong. I read Hagakure and watched Japanese anime and porn. You are crazy motherfuckers. The real reason Christcuckery never took root in Japan is because your Buddhism is superior, and proved its logical superiority. It's because you're closer to Ubermenschin culture than Westoids. Christcuckery simply cannot compete with Buddhism. Japan even hosted a great debate once. Christcucks were brought down with one question: "If God made the universe, did he do it for some purpose?"
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>>534274951
Hahaha you instinctively know it's bullshit but you want to lobotomize yourself. Step 1: sniff glue to bring your iq under 80, the rest will follow
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>>534275081
The first mention of the shroud literally says that it's forgery
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>>534275141
All those witches went to their death believing that they were right.
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>>534275282
>ultimately you must concede that God is known to us not through our minds but through our hearts.
Ok then you'd be on page 1 of the Tao Te Ching. You still have a long way ahead of you. Also, if you truly understand that the Dao that can be said is not the eternal Dao, you wouldn't talk of it like that. And you would realize that since you do not know the Way, because you cannot, then the magic Hebrew fairy tales are of no help. No help because the Hebrews who wrote it didn't know God either.
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>>534275239
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>>534279104
"El Elyon" is a Title, similar to El Shaddai.

eloah/elohim is a category noun.

El Elyon is a Title that belongs to Yahweh and Yahweh alone.

>>534278860
Jesus Christ came only for His flock, it's alright.

>>534279241
Bear witness to everybody, but it is ultimately God who has mercy and saves souls from death.
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>>534274951
Everyone who has ever lived, is living, or will live has to make a choice in their life on Earth--"Is Jesus' story is truth".

Look at the historical evidence, witnessed testimony, archeological data, eschatology that was written in books like Isaiah that has come to pass, etc. I would start with prayer.

Pray; "God, this is a step of faith. I admit that I have gone astray and I am the lost sheep that you talked about in Luke 15:3, Matt 18:12. Come find me where I am lost and bring me to the cross. Isaiah 1:3 says that even Oxen and Donkeys, not intelligent and stubborn creatures respectfully, still recognize their master but through rebellion I neither `know` you or `consider` you. There needs to be a change in my heart so I can grow close to you. Lead me to crucifying my sins to the cross, turn away from my ways and live free in the righteousness promised to believers in 1 Peter 5. That same chapter in first Peter v7 says you care for me. Reveal, Redeem and Restore me. In faith, amen."

Good luck, brother. Don't let these heathen "christcuck" you out of knowledge of God. A meme is not worth your eternal destination.
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>>534274951
> how do I believe a divine figure did divine things
??
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>>534279559
The Synagogue of Satan will be made to bow at our feet.
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christians love to use the fact that god exists to justify their belief in a jew god
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>>534274951
>>534275081
Shut the fuck up you LARPing-as-a-semite monkey brain niggers.
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>>534275282
>Logical necessity
Muh uncaused cause is a laughable concept.
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We can keep going. Do you know why the Jews/Zoroastrians came up with the omnipotent God? Because of arguments about my god being able to beat up your god.

>Aries can beat up Zeus
>nuh UH because Zeus can beat up Aries like he beat up Cronus
>enter rabbi
>NUH UUUUUH MY GOD CAN KICK ALL YOUR GODS ASSES, HE'S LEVEL INFINITY, ALL POWERFUL, INVINCIBLE, ALL KNOWING, AND HAS NO WEAKNESSES! I win, give me your drachmas!
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>>534279570
>muh "SAVE ME FROM DEATH"
Pathetic. Only cowards fear death, so your religion only works on cowards. Bullshit cuckoldry intended for cowards who fear death (detachment from self) due to attachment to self. You preach only to those with earthly attachments. Cowards, who dare not shed blood.
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>>534279570
>Jesus Christ came only for His flock
Which is everyone lol
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>>534276678
>It's MY religion that just happens to be true
Absolute state of christkeks
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>>534274951
There arent many people from 2000 years ago that people talk about on the daily.

2 billion+ Christ believers.

Something happened.
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>>534279780
You are free to follow the path of death, I am following the path of eternal life.

>>534279824
Do you have proof that everybody is part of God's flock? After all, God saves everybody who is part of His flock, there are many people who died unsaved, and will resurrect to the Great White Throne Judgment. At that point they can only pray that their names are found in the Book of Life.
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>>534275969
>I sacrificed my avatar for two days
What a generous god
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>>534279828
>MY branch of my religion

>>534279824
It's potentially everyone, but Jew King said most wouldn't follow.
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>>534279959
>I FOLLOW THE PATH OF LIFE MUAHAHAA
Ok Faraoh. If you are following the path of life, why do you die? Why is my path going to cross yours eventually? And why is yours the way of "life", when you only get the good stuff when you die? You're the actual death cult here
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>>534279963
Yes, His blood paid for our atonement, now we will be glorified along with Him.
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>>534277926
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>>534280026
These bodies are already marked for death, we resurrect and receive glorified bodies after.
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>>534279959
>Do you have proof that everybody is part of God's flock?
When the bible says God man in his image. Then Jesus telling his disciples to go and baptize all nations in his word.

>God saves everybody who is part of His flock
And anyone can be a part of the "flock"
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>>534280035
Atonement for what? What exactly did humans do that was so bad? Eat a magic apple, after being tricked by a snake? Killing, raping, and maiming each other? Your God does all that as well. Besides, this type of behavior is the way God made us. We are made to act as we are, so clearly it isn't a sin. Sin isn't real. God created us exactly the way we are. Humanity is not in a fallen or corrupt state, and he don't need atonement from some Jew king. Sin isn't even real.

>I'm going to hell
Nice try but what you call Hell is a pagan concept, or at best a concept stolen from Zoroastrianism, which is a superior religion.
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>>534274951
Stop sinning
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>>534280183
>Sin isn't even real
Exactly. It's just a more spooky/scary term for mistakes.
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>>534280155
>the cool stuff happens AFTER you die
And yet you claim you're not a death cult. Hinduism is superior to you again in this regard. Your religion is inferior to literal Jeets. Shame. At least Hinduism says find enlightenment while you're here
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>>534275282
Why was it necessary for a Jew to be crucified for everyone else to be "saved"? Why couldn't god just forgive just like he did before that?
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The Bible speaks of this. Keep reading.
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>>534278414
Where did christgolems get the idea that the natural selection is random?
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The only thing that can bring you to is death, it doesn't have to be your death either, but conditions have to be ideal for the epiphany you seek to take place. Once and if you understand you won't be able to go back, its as potent as terminal red pills or black pills, but is not given/taken lightly. The answer is in between. His arrival is not tied to a singular moment/location.
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>>534280204
You can't as a person. Also sin isn't real so technically no one sins.

>>534280232
Flawed logic. Let's get Socratic. If sin is a mere mistake, then consider a murderer. Luigi the murderer kills Brian the Jew. Luigi makes no mistake when he slays Brian the Jew. His plan works correctly and he stands by his actions. His actions were no mistake. Same would go for a thief who successfully steals something. No mistakes made, but it's still a sin. This is because Christcuckery isn't a positivist religion.
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>>534277272
Yass kween A-men and A-WOMEN
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>>534280286
They don't even really understand what randomness is

>>534280293
>more death cult shit
Not gonna worship your Zombie Jew
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>>534274951
> rational brain
You don't have such a thing, you are not even human.
You are a beast of burden created to work for the gods. You don't have free will. You will do whatever we say you must do.
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>>534280323
>If sin is a mere mistake, then consider a murderer.
Mistakes have varying consequences. See your example of Luigi. He murdered someone, regardless of how "flawless" his plan was, he still made a mistake and is suffering the consequences
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>>534277728
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>>534280323
Stop sinning
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>>534280454
You first
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Christianity = whypeepoo's Cultural Revolution
Change my mind
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>>534280422
The last jew was Christ. After the jews murdered Christ, all the leftovers were God damned.
Until the last jew breathes his last Earth will be terraformed into hell.
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>>534280170
You're ignoring how Jesus will separate the goats from the sheep.

>>534280244
Nope, the cool stuff starts happening upon Salvation. We are gifted with the privilege of conforming to the Image of Christ.

>>534280541
Christians are the true Jews. Israel is the Church, the spiritual Body of Christ.
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>>534280541
>the jews murdered Christ
They persecuted him but the Romans carried out the act

Also, why be so upset about it? You should be thankful they followed God's plan
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>>534279938
>2 billion+ Christ believers.

And there are +1 billion Muslims who believe an angel talked to Muhammad in a cave and Jesus was only a prophet.

Most people don't know shit about their own religion or history or how to think, really.

They just believe because it's what they grew up with and everyone around them does too. If they ask too many questions they might get ostracized from their group and that would make them feel bad so they just avoid thinking deeply about it.

t. grew up in a protestant household and saw how retarded and shallow my family and church was about their "beliefs" but also irrationally certain and would get irrate and feel personally threatened if you asked too many questions
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>>534280454
Prove that sin is real first

>>534280408
>consequences of sin pitfall
In the first example, sure. In the second example, no. Someone like Baron Rothschild is able to steal legally without suffering any consequences. He makes no mistakes, steals to his heart's content, and faces no perceivable consequences. Gets out clean. We can all name examples. What then? Karma shills always have a hard time explaining why karma doesn't always manifest in this life.

>but karma manifests itself in next life according to Christcucks
At its core, this is a solid idea. Solid because it's not Christian, it's stolen from Zoroastrianism, a superior religion. The problem is that now, Christ forgives evil by offering a karmic shortcut. Christcuck karma argument fails because Christ is a cheat code for infinite karma. Not how karma works.
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>>534280580
>You're ignoring how Jesus will separate the goats from the sheep.
Not really, you just have poor reading comprehension
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>>534280035
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>>534280599
>t. grew up in a protestant household and saw how retarded and shallow my family and church was about their "beliefs" but also irrationally certain and would get irrate and feel personally threatened if you asked too many questions
Until the last jew is destroyed, I dont care what other fake Christians think.
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>>534280609
Incorrect, according to the Bible, it is impossible for a non-Christian to truly comprehend it.

It is technically you who fail to comprehend as you remain spiritually deaf & blind.
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>>534280541
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>>534280586
No, Jews killed him. Pilate literally didn't want to do it. Pontius merely obeyed the will of the people he governed (the Jews).

>>534280580
>Salvation
Does this salvation come before or after death?
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Read True Christianity by Jared Young
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>>534280649
Until the last jew is destroyed, all this is just demons deceiving. The synagogue of satan must be destroyed utterly and to the last.
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>>534280646
>It is technically you who fail to comprehend as you remain spiritually deaf & blind.
You have no idea how deaf and blind you are. You haven't made 1 solid argument all thread. You're using circular arguments and borrowed wisdom from superior schools of thought to defend your Jew golem religion magic sky Jew fairy tales about the chosen people of God being Jews. You are a good goy.
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>>534280422
Based Slovak brother I shake your hand through screen. I've never in my life understood that urge to worship some joo
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>>534280642
>other fake Christians

Oh yeah and Catholics and Protestants accusing each other of being "fake Christians" and saying God is going to send the other to hell to suffer to eternity for believing the slightly wrong doctrine. Yes I'm very familiar with that too
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>>534274951
Whenever i struggle with this i look to the apostles. Its irrational that they would abandon their livelihoods and travel to the ends of the known world proselytizing and being martyred for something that they didnt witness firsthand.
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>>534280714
Jesus was a Jew you fucking retard. You worship a Jew. You helped Jews more than you realize. Without Christcucks, Jews would have been Holocausted 1000 times.
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>>534280732
>Oh yeah and Catholics and Protestants accusing each other of being "fake Christians" and saying God is going to send the other to hell to suffer to eternity for believing the slightly wrong doctrine. Yes I'm very familiar with that too
Unless you are actively destroying the synagogue of satan and cleansing this planet of the jew utterly and to the last, you simply arent part of the remnant. Its not hard. The only side are those cleansing the jew and those who are not.
Hitler is far more Christian than most who kneel before crosses these days.
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>>534280715
>You're using circular arguments

That's most Christians AND Muslims.

I'm not surprised Muslims are convinced by circular arguments because they're mostly double digit IQ browns but I'm always surprised at how many white Christians also get lost in their own circular arguments
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>>534280773
Jesus was the last jew, there is a new covenant. Read more. All those who say they are jews but are not are the synagogue of satan.
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You can't de-convert the cognitive dissonance having /pol/ e-crusader. They are golems who are Olympic gold medalists of mental gymnastics. They NEED to base their worldview off of Jewish mythology and will generate any rationalization out of thin air when you press them. If they lose rabbi yeshua, they will ack themselves cuz it's all they have in their life.
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>>534280605
>Someone like Baron Rothschild is able to steal legally without suffering any consequences. He makes no mistakes, steals to his heart's content, and faces no perceivable consequences. Gets out clean. We can all name examples. What then?
2 options, move in with your life or don't, end your life by ending his. That's what Luigi did.

What did his killing do exactly? Nothing, nothing has changed. Cutting off one head of a Hydra doesn't kill the beast. It'll grow another head in its place. Exactly what happened.

>>534280646
>Incorrect
Correct

>according to the Bible, it is impossible for a non-Christian to truly comprehend it.
This is equivalent to a tranny saying they can't tell me what a woman is because they aren't a biologist. Lmao
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>>534280838
>bruh we are the true jooz you know
>it's le hecking based to be a spirital joo
L M A O
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>>534280838
Even if your babble is correct, you still worship a fucking Jew
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>>534280667
>No, Jews killed him
Nah, Jesus was beaten and killed by Rimans. The Pharisees couldn't outright kill Jesus, they didn't have that authority so they needed the help of the Romans.
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>>534280870
All the "jews" must be destroyed. Jesus was the last jew. There is a new covenant. The word jew is now only a way of identifying demons.
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>>534280840
>They are golems who are Olympic gold medalists of mental gymnastics
Not just gold medals. Ultimate platinum medals studded with diamonds.

Their choice is to larp as a spiritual joo and dedicate their whole life to some joo. The ultimate goy-golem
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>>534280884
>Even if your babble is correct, you still worship a fucking Jew
There can be no connection with God until the last jew is destroyed.
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>>534280422
>>534280717
Matthew 2:2 "and asked, 'Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him"

Their own book tells them plainly that Christ was a Jew and they still worship it nonetheless.

They know they're worshipping a Jew, they will say and do anything to convince you to also worship the Jew. This is just the nature of the Jew, a lying conniving snake
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>>534280667
Salvation comes before death.

>>534280715
There are no arguments to make against irrational individuals detached from logic.

>>534280869
It's not my problem that you're incapable of comprehending. How does one describe the color "Red" to a blind man? So it is for a spiritually alive man to explain what it is like living in Christ to a spiritually dead man.

Just ask God for mercy.
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>>534280869
I didn't mean what then in a literal sense. I was disproving earthly karma, on my way to disproving Christian version of karma
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>>534280982
>It's not my problem that you're incapable of comprehending
You mean you have a problem with me seeing through your bullshit.

>Just ask God for mercy.
For what?

>>534280989
I gotcha
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>>534280982
>There are no arguments to make against irrational individuals detached from logic.
Nice self own
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>>534280978
my favorite is Matthew 15:24: “He answered(to a gentile woman that asked him to help her", ‘I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’”

The mental gymnastics that chrestcucks do while explaining Matthew 15:24 is my favorite kind of mental gymnastics olimpics
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>>534274951
Have you even tried talking to the guy? Like earnestly?
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>>534280183
>which is a superior religion
You're oddly invested in every religion but Christian. I take it you don't get along with your father?

>actual death cult
Buddhist's explicit objective is the atheist default. They seek oblivion.

They have plumbed the depths of human psychology to impressive levels in their millennia of introspection.

>if you truly understand that the Dao
Tell me you're not Chinese without telling me you're not Chinese. If you understood the history in the slightest, you'd understand Dao is sorcery, not religion. And you don't tell people because you don't want competition- not because its ineffable. Have you ever even bought fire immunity pills from a Daoist temple? Ever fed your Grandma arsenic disulfide and bovine gallstones to treat her cancer? Fucking hippies pretending they understand eastern religion is so cringe. And then you bitch about Hebrews stealing Zoroastrianism- like you're not just making up your own shit and slapping an oriental label on it to make it seem more exotic.

>>534279122
On this I agree. Roman era Israelites would not understand microbiology and amino acids even if it were explained to them clearly. If we steel man Christianity half as much as you fellate Asian religion, we would approach it with the understanding this was a limitation of the people to whom the revelation was given.

If that feels like moving a goal post, its because you're trying to score points while talking to a crowd of anons. And you care more about posturing than you do exploring ideas.

If you do care about exploring ideas, then try steel-manning Christianity as much as you do Buddhism. Or perhaps, understandably, you're as ignorant of Christianity as you are of Daosim. You almost certainly haven't attended catechism of any sort. And no protestant can deny that there aren't some other protestant denominations that are completely batshit filling the space with lots of schizo retardation.
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>>534280953
Shalom, I'm Rabbi Yeshua and I approve this message!!!
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>>534280919
Pontius literally didn't wanna do it. You are Jewish, only Jews blame the Romans. Also the Farisees were Jews.

>>534280974
You still worship one though, and he tells you to be a cuck and let your enemy have his way

>>534280982
>Salvation comes before death
Ok, so in this world. How does it appear, in this world? Here comes your magic Jew shit, I can feel it

>irrational individuals detached from logic
I showed you nigger retards an experiment that shows how the universe can be made by random chance, while all you do is spout Jewish fairy tales. Christianity and logic cannot exist in the same room. Come back when you've solved the manifest destiny question that Paul was seething about in Romans. Pro tip, you can't. Especially not with the rest of your scripture in the way. You worship Jewish fairy tales. It's like someone who distorts their reality through drugs, then accuses others of being illogical for not seeing the pink unicorn crossing the street right there. Kek
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>>534281085
Dear goyim hand over thou precious and delisious foreskin to me for I can eat it (Johny the Kike 4:20)

And after this how could you say that christcuckery is not based?
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>>534281085
All that matters is destroying the jews right now. And the man you keep calling rabbi instructed the cleaning of the jew.
You are the jew here because you are getting in the way of cleansing the jew.
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>>534281066
Kek the golem truly is an abomination that can be cured only by fire
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>>534281031
Incorrect, you are incapable of comprehending biblical truth, and that's alright. All pagans are incapable of understanding.

>>534281048
Only Christians, who are rooted in the divine source of Reason (Yahweh) are truly logical.

Those who deny God, deny Reason itself.

>>534281147
>I showed an experiment that shows how the universe can be made by random chance.
Which rabbi did you learn this from, anon? In any case though, I'm not interested in the delusional fantasies of those who are cut off from Reason. I'm not too keen on deceiving myself as you have deceived yourselves.
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>>534281147
>You still worship one though, and he tells you to be a cuck and let your enemy have his way
Jesus is the path to bypass the demiurge. You are stuck on Earth with jews. Destroy the jew utterly and to the last and this insanity can end.
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>>534281147
>Pontius literally didn't wanna do it
And still did it.

>You are Jewish, only Jews blame the Romans.
I blame both. You're sounding exactly like those you're arguing with here.

>Also the Pharisees were Jews
And so was Jesus, different type of Jew though
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>>534281218
>Incorrect,
Correct.
>>534281218
>ou are incapable of comprehending biblical truth
Truth is unfaithful, adding on "biblical" means nothing.

>Only Christians, who are rooted in the divine source of Reason (Yahweh) are truly logical.
Too themselves

>Those who deny God, deny Reason itself
Which God? Your personally favorite one? Kek
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>>534281221
>Jesus is the path to bypass the demiurge
Says who? 99.99999% of christians don't say that and don't believe it. And even if we, for the sake of argument, take this statment as true I would still not believe that the only way to escape the demiurge matrix is to worship some joo.
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>>534275081
how would it imprint his hair as if he were standing for a photo?
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>>534281288
I have to add on "biblical" as I am interacting with pagans who have trouble distinguishing falsehoods from other falsehoods as it is. Otherwise, Truth itself is inherently Christian (after all, Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life).

>Which God?
Yahweh obviously, He is eternal & living, unlike your dead idols.
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>>534277728
ok bro keep praying to rabbi yeshua and hope jews enslave you and build a third temple

it's part of gods plan according to you christcucks lol
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>>534275282
>but ultimately you must concede that God is known to us not through our minds but through our hearts.

Get your estrogen levels checked
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>>534281357
>I have to add on "biblical"
I know, it's called bias and circular reasoning.

>Truth itself is inherently Christian
Which brand of Christian?

>>534281357
>>Which God?
>Yahweh obviously
Your favorite and personal one.
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>>534281357
>unlike your dead idols.
I don't know what that means. Sounds like a retarded assumption though.
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>>534281069
>You're oddly invested in every religion but Christian
Because Christcuckery is inferior to every religion. Trust me, I've witnessed many, many spiriual debates. Christcucks lose every time. You simply can't into Greco style debates as a Christcuck. Your "logic" insists upon itself. You are actually utterly incapable of arguing with no fallacies like superior religions can.

>i don't get along with my dad
First of all, this ad hom fallacy is already a declaration of forfeit by you. It's not even remotely true, either. My dear mom was the Christian one, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because you're arguing in bad faith, and bringing out the ad homs. The only ad homs i use is calling you a Jew golem retard, after using real logic to defeat you. However, calling you a Jew golem retard isn't an ad hom, because i base no other statements from it. It is merely a statement of fact, and you can draw whatever conclusions you wish from it.

>Dao is sorcery, not religion
You are out of your league here. Magic and religion are sister disciplines. No way to have a good debate on this here, as you'll just move the goalposts every time. I don't wish to speak on magic vs religion. Jesus said not to cast your pearls before swine, this was a true saying.

>Hebrews stealing Zoroastrianism
Blatant falsehood, it was Christcucks (goyim) who stole Zoroastrianism. Abraham existed before Zarathustra. Your mind worms won't let you think straight.
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>>534275282
>bla bla bla bla look i'm so smart so I worship a joo bla bla bla

Weird flex but ok
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>>534274951
the same way 6 year olds believe in santa claus
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>>534281357
it's time for bed, goodnight fellow brothers in Christ. We look forward to the day when all pagan idolatry is destroyed as Evil will be destroyed.

>>534281461
Again, Christians operate on a higher mode of understanding that the pagan cannot contend with (which is why the pagan relies on fighting illogically & irrationally as they know that they are wrong). You will not understand how you destroy yourselves by worshipping the false gods you worship.

You are incapable of realizing how self-defeating your illogical fantasies are, it is why you need God to help you.
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>>534281227
>>Pontius literally didn't wanna do it
>And still did it.
Because he was a good official and he let his people have their way, but not before washing his hands and proclaiming very clearly that this is a crime, of which he is innocent. Because he didn't wanna do it.

>>534281218
>Which "rabbi" did I learn the Miller-Urey experiment from, anon?
Whichever one follows the same principles that created society and all the underpinning sciences, crafts, trades, and philosophies. In other words, men of pure fact and logic. Science! Not modern fake science, but real science. As real as Newtonian physicsand the Mendeleev Table. Also kys

>>534281221
Jesus can never be anything other than controlled opposition and a spiritual trap. Also, leave with all your schizo nonsense. Easterners have already figured out how to escape Samsara, what more do you want?
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>>534281598
>Again, Christians operate on a higher mode of understanding
In their personal feelings.
>that the pagan cannot contend with
I'm not a "pagan".
>You will not understand how you destroy yourselves by worshipping the false gods you worship.
I was right.
>>534281461
>Sounds like a retarded assumption though.
Good job retard
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>>534274951
It's good to want evidence. Unironically look at the Shroud of Turin (Jesus burial cloth), a Catholic priest named Father Spitzer has made a ton of great videos explaining how it is evidence of Christ's resurrection and evidence for Christ's divinity.
He also explains how the studies of it from the 1980s were debunked and newer dating tests have proven it is from the first century.

Look up other videos by Father Spitzer and also Chuck Missler videos. Chuck Missler was a physicist who created apologetics videos and Bible study videos.

Also, in the old testament, there's a lot of embedded evidence pointing towards Christ.
>Hebrews had to camp in a formation that looked like a cross from the air
>God stopped Abraham from sacrificing his son Issac and then provided another animal to sacrifice, which is similar to how God provides Jesus, His son, as a sacrifice for our sins
In proverbs itself it talks about the messiah being a priest after the order of Melchizedek, whose sacrifice was bread and wine (like Jesus and the Eucharist and Communion).
Proverbs 30:4 which is old testament and written before Jesus was born says:
Who has ascended to heaven and come down?
Who has gathered the wind in his fists?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is his son’s name?
Surely you know!
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>>534281661
>>>Pontius literally didn't wanna do it
>>And still did it.
>Because he was a good official and he let his people have their way.
So we agree that the Romans killed Jesus then.
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>>534281598
>God
Why are you using this english word? Your "God" that your worship has a name and his name is YHWH (Yahweh).

Become true christian and stop using pagan word "God" and just type YHWH everytime you're talking about your "God"
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>>534274951
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>>534281186
>And the man you keep calling rabbi instructed the cleaning of the jew.
Everyone called him Rabbi, because he was a Jew. In fact, KING of the Jews. You can't logically be both Christian and an antisemite at the same time.
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>>534281296
Nobody has to do anything until the last jew is destroyed. Once the last jew is destroyed, we can have all these pilpul arguments.
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>>534275245
http://reichandlowentherapy.org/Content/Character/Oral/oral_communicator.html

The inclination of the oral is to find out 'the right thing to do' and do it. Therefore the oral is capable of greatly moral or pro-social acts. But implementing good ideas may be difficult. There is a tendency for orals to focus intensely on their intentions and plans, past and present, and treat results as fairly inconsequential or the responsibility of others. Ideas are untested in the world, and while that idealism may sometimes bear fruit, often naive and unrealistic positions remain. The 'way things should be' is much more important than 'the way things almost always are.' This can lead the oral to be at odds with instinctual tendencies in others and society that prevent 'things from being the way they should be'.
Large abstract global causes may be championed, with no real demands on the ego, but smaller specific injustices to specific known people closer to home may be unopposed because the ego strength is not present for an actual fight. They often champion the cause of under-dogs and minorities, idealizing those with little power. This comes from the feeling of having been deprived and cheated, which is repressed and projected onto others. It is sometimes said that orals dislike the people they know, and like the people they don't know.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_ultimate_ends
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>God God God God
Why do christians use this gentile word? Their god-father has a name YHWH. Their god-son has a name Yeshua. Why aren't christians so hesitant to use their true jewish names?
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>>534281661
>Easterners have already figured out how to escape Samsara, what more do you want?
Every jew destroyed utterly and to the last. There can be no breaking of the cycles until that happens.
You with all your distractions. Its like you want to keep the jew around.
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>>534281598
>it is why you need God to help you
You can't talk directly to God without pagan drug rituals so
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>>534281711
>You can't logically be both Christian and an antisemite at the same time.
Jesus himself said there are those who say they are jews and are not. The synagogue of satan.
It is you and you jewish allies, who work for the jews either directly or manipulated into doing so, that constantly distract everyone from destroying every last jew utterly and to the last.
Who cares who is telling you to destroy the jew utterly.
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>>534281802
>Every jew destroyed utterly and to the last.
Lead by example
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>>534275133
>>534277125
>things exist therefore jews are Gods
lmao MIGA intellectuals
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>>534281860
>Jesus himself said there are those who say they are jews and are not. The synagogue of satan.
He's saying they are fake jews and not a real jew like him.
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>Everything our book says is true
>Except the part where it explicitly says the god we worship Is a Jew
>That part isn't true

Christ cuck cope is too funny kek
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>>534281864
>Lead by example
Fair ask. My children hate them. And plotting against them is difficult, but these things take time. Its been 2000 years.
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>>534277002
>lower case c in Christ
>upper case J in jews

you've played your hand too early shlomo
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>>534281903
>He's saying they are fake jews and not a real jew like him.
There are no old testament jews left. So the word jew is meaningly. Those that call themselves jews must be destroyed. Its really that simple. Stop distracting from that.
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>>534281906
you forget the part where 90% of their book is just TORAH. Yeah. It's just TORAH. Liketally TORAH. Imagine studiying torah your whole life and accusing someone of being a jew kek
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>>534276559
Jesus never once claimed to be God, only that God was his Father. It was the council of Nicea, with pressure from the Roman governemnt, that declared Jesus was God. And Jesus was a jew as he was a decendant of Abraham, a lineage he clearly denied to those who claimed to government, were of their father devil who persecuted and killed him and yet still claim to be jews to this very day.

All the other shit you spew in just pagan and jewish subversive of Jesus' teachings.
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>>534274951
It sounds like your problem of conversion is intellectual. I was like you. Look into TAG, the transcendental argument for God. Jay dyer has many videos on it. Women tend to have the emotional angle, and divine liturgy tends to be their pivotal point. That's not to day you're gay for needing that, it's just not a one size fits all problem. Good luck bro, and ignore the negative idiots you find here.
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>>534281921
So you will do nothing

>>534281954
>Those that call themselves jews must be destroyed. Its really that simple
Then go do it.

Oh yeah, piss por excuse of
>it takes time
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>>534281696
No, retard. If USA bombs Israel's enemies, was it the Americans who blew the civilians up, or the Jews? As a good public official, you must let your people have their way. If a lynch mob comes to you and demands a man, who is from among their tribe, who is to be executed due to the decisions of the tribe, under the tribe's customs, then you should allow them to kill him. They demanded he die. Pontius wasn't gonna do it on his own accord. You're like the retard who blames the gun for the shooting, or the car for the DUI. The romans were mere tools used by Jews to kill the Jew King. Come on, we see this all the time in 2026.

>>534281802
>kill every Jew
I agree
>worship a Jew
I disagree. You're not a real antisemite if you still worship a fucking Jew
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>>534281975
>claimed to be God
>only that God was his Father
What god are we talking about? Yahweh(YHWH)?
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>>534281954
>Those that call themselves jews must be destroyed
Grand canyon logic gap. So Jews can avoid the oven simply by changing their names and customs a little? Genius plan there.
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>>534282014
>No, retard
You just did.
>>534281661
>>>Pontius literally didn't wanna do it
>>And still did it.
>Because he was a good official and he let his people have their way
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>>534281975
>Jesus never once claimed to be God
KEK, illiterate Christcuck joins the chat. I love it when Christcucks are so retarded they don't know their own Jew fairy tales.

There are many, MANY quotes like this:
John 10:30, "I and the Father are one"
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>>534282067
If i programmed a golem robot to murder you and rape your daughters, would you put the golem on trial, or me? Retard
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>>534282166
Both. Retard.
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>>534281218
>All pagans are incapable of understanding how to worship a Jew and yet simultaneously still want to remove all Jews
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>>534274951
No one doubts roman history but everyone doubts the veracity of the Bible despite the fact that no other historical document is as attested for and verified as the Bible. Not even all the manuscripts for the history of rome, they don't even come close. Every day massive amounts of biblical archeology is undertaken that further corroborates the bible.

Read The Case for Christ. Then watch the film.
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>>534282189
You're the retard. The golem is fucking mindless, you might as well put a dog on trial kek. Imagine blaming the golem for the master's actions. Yet another brilliant display of logic from one of Earth's smartest religions.
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>>534282366
So by your moronic "logic" niggers can't be held responsible for their actions when kikes control them.

You are a fucking dumbshit
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>>534282366
>Yet another brilliant display of logic from one of Earth's smartest religions
I'm not religious you colossal clown shoe
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There's more evidence for Jesus than a roman god.
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>>534282411
>niggers can't be held responsible for their actions
Not really, they lack the intelligence or reasoning required to be held accountable for anything. You might as well just put a chimpanzee in the defendant seat. Sounds like you see them as human...
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>>534282473
Jesus the man? Yes. Jesus the demigod? Hardly.
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>>534282142
Jesus also wanted to make the disciples one just as he and the father are one. Are they going to be God too?
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>>534282494
>>niggers can't be held responsible for their actions
>Not really
>niggers get a free pass!
You've never lived around them. That much is clear.

You're stupidly ignorant like a nigger.
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>>534274951
Liars make bad martyrs. Those who witnessed his divine miracles never redacted their faith even when being tortured or killed.
> But other religions have martyrs too
None of them have a multitude of people martyring over a witnessed set of miracles. Muhammad supposedly split the moon in two but the Quran never revealed whom he did the for other than the Quraysh tribe, with nobody present being named. And such an event would have been seen over the entire nighttime side of the world.
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>>534282555
I live in a third world nigger shithole. The place i live is mostly black niggers. My roommate for 3 years was a nigger. Now all my roommates are niggers. I'll outnigger you any time of day

>niggers get a free pass
No they don't. They fill American prisons and ghettos. They suffer for their own condition, primarily at the hands of other niggers. None of that changes the fact that they don't have the intellect required to take accountability. That requires a higher level of thinking.
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>>534282704
>I live in a third world nigger shithole
And still remain willfully ignorant.
>I'll outnigger you any time of day
You sure will
>>niggers get a free pass
>No they don't
So they should be held accountable for their actions then?
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>>534282522
Yes according to Mormons i guess. You act like i understand these Jewish crackpot fairy tales
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>>534282704
>None of that changes the fact that they don't have the intellect required to take accountability
Thats why we hold them accountable.

Dumbass
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>>534281468
>can't into Greco style debates
I'm not sure why I'd care about mimicking Aristotle when he confidently asserted women have fewer teeth than men and never bothered to check. The most critical flaw of Roman Catholicism is that it tried to base itself on Aristotelian metaphysics (transubstantiation). Even a Hegelian dialectic feels dated to me. For the most part I say truth is fundamentally about prediction, and actually smart people pick stocks for a living while pretentious intelligentsia frauds teach philosophy. Too bad prediction markets degenerated into sports betting.

>ad hom, I win button yay!
It is ad hominem to note someone is a schizophrenic as it doesn't logically say anything about the argument itself. And you're a childish fool if that doesn't nonetheless convey information by which you should judge the speakers arguments.

You stopped thinking after "ad hominem". That was never meant to logically imply you were correct. It was meant to punish violation of discourse norms. This is 4chan. Here you are a faggot. If you stop thinking every time someone on 4chan calls you a faggot you will actually achieve a negative IQ score.

>calling you a Jew golem is merely a statement of fact... your mind worms...
I am not a Christian. You are not as smart as you think you are. You could become much smarter if you prioritized humility over posturing on the internet.

>Abraham existed before Zarathustra
I stand corrected.

>You are out of your league here
I literally own (through inheritance) a Daoist temple in Shandong, child. Daoists believe God is either dead or has abandoned us, but is not here anymore (very strong evidence of this if you live in China). It is explicitly and literally not a religion- just an esoteric theory of physics that rejects the standard model (and also modern medical practice, hence TCM).
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>>534282753
You don't understand theory of mind. If a dog eats a kid, do you make the dog take accountability? No. Taking accountability requires higher intellect which the dog lacks. You kill the dog to prevent more kids from being eaten. You watch for that type of dog. But you don't make the dog "accountable" for its actions. The dog wouldn't know why it's being held on trial. Things like trials and accountability only exist in advanced societies where humans are capable of higher thought. Not everyone is capable of such higher thought. We like to think all humans are capable of higher thought these days, but they're not. Humans are getting dumber, no matter the race.
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>>534282856
>If a dog eats a kid, do you make the dog take accountability?
Yes, you put the dog down.

How fucking stupid are you?
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>>534282856
>Taking accountability requires higher intellect which the dog lacks
Again, that's why WE hold them accountable.

Fuck man, you are a moron
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>>534282818
I wouldn't mimic Aristotle, I'd mimic Socrates.

>Daoists believe God is dead
Yes, this is a positivist position which truly makes the most sense.

>you didn't know Abraham predated Zoroaster
You implied in your other post that Hebrews copied Zoroastrianism. It was actually Christians that did so.

>you own a daoist temple
Lao Tzu didn't hang out at temples too often
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>>534274951
Listen to the father Malachi Martin interviews with Art Bell on YT. If you understand evil you will understand the real Presence of Christ
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>>534282873
Putting down an animal is not the same as making it take accountability. Accountability is when a human realizes they fucked up and were wrong.

>>534282915
We don't hold them accountable. See other reply. They can't be held accountable. They're too dumb. If a gator eats a human, do we hold the gator "accountable"? No. We just kill it.

>holding accountable == rendering due punishment
No, being accountable means realizing you were wrong and accepting the punishment. This is a human ability that requires high thought. Animals are not accountable for their actions.
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>>534275282
Based and Augustine pilled
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>>534283057
>Putting down an animal is not the same as making it take accountability
You still don't get it.

>>534282915
>Again, that's why WE hold them accountable.
>>534283057
>We don't hold them accountable
Sure do. That's what the law is for. Amd ending someone's life for their actions IS holding someone accountable.

Whether they understand accountability is irrelevant to holding them accountable.

Grow the fuck up kid.
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>>534277398
Vatican owns the labs. Next
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>>534274951
Read Confessions of Augustine. He had the same question. Nothing new under the sun
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>>534283134
They don’t. They are independently tested specifically by atheists. That is a key point of protocols
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>>534278053
>Multiple realms with demons, gods and bodhisattva powers aren't supernatural
Kill yourself my man
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>>534283186
>They are independently tested specifically by atheists.
Turns out it's not provable.
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>>534283134
There have been many instances where proposed Eucharistic miracles have been debunked by the Vatican and independent labs. The Vatican is extremely conservative in this regard
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>>534283237
My friend I feel very sorry for you. The Vatican itself spends an enormous amount of resources debunking claims
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>>534283292
My friend. Your reading comprehension is abysmal.
>The Vatican itself spends an enormous amount of resources debunking claims
Agreed. And none of the Eucharistic miracles are provable because the AB antigens are also commonly found in bacteria
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>>534282959
>Lao Tzu didn't hang out at temples too often
Are you actually trying to imply you know and understand Daoism better than 9 generations of native Han practitioners? You are that terrified of admitting you don't understand something more than the people and culture who created it?

And in the same breath, compare yourself to be as humble as Socrates?

Socrates asked questions and sought wisdom. You have done nothing but make assertions about the stupidity of others and what beliefs are superior. If you had made the slightest attempt at a Socratic dialog, this would be a very different conversation.

One so proud cannot be taught. All I can say is you need to reflect on yourself if you wish to grow, anon.

>>534282856
The other anons literally didn't read your post before replying, and what I'm saying is not an actual argument against your claim. But I thought you might find it amusing to know that medieval Europe did in fact put animals on trial. I think at one point some court in Spain sentenced the mosquitos to some penance for being a public nuisance.

I readily admit I do not understand this baffling European behavior.
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>>534275969
So no sacrifice
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>>534280035
>he-h he needed to pay himself in his own blood!
Truly Jewish
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>>534283122
Do you know what a competency hearing is? The legal system in USA wants the guilty party to actually feel guilty. The defendant is encouraged to take accountability for their actions in various ways. The legal system does not work if the defendant has such low IQ that they don't know if they're in Dallas or Houston. In other words, the criminal justice system requires to criminal to FEEL like a bad person. To KNOW that they did something wrong, and they deserve to be punished. Niggers don't feel like bad people, because they lack self reflection. They don't know they did something wrong. It's the same exact thing as if you wasted taxpayer money by holding a trial for some pit bull. Why? The dog has no idea why it's being punished.
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>>534283528
>Do you know what a competency hearing is?
Exceptions to the rule doesn't negate accountability for the majority.
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>>534280204
Sin is Jewish morality debt. Kill yourself
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>>534283212
Positivist religion at its core. Study more, achieve enlightenment, then kys
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>>534283528
>Do you know what a competency hearing is?
Also, if found incompetent due to mental illness or defect, the trial is paused, and the defendant is sent for treatment to restore competency

They don't escape accountability
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>>534280541
Wrong cunt. Old testament jews carry out sister rape and genocide with impunity
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>>534280974
So why did your christcuck ancestors save them 110 tines? Were they all misinterpreting the Bible? Are they burning in hell? Retard
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>>534283392
>Are you actually trying to imply you know and understand Daoism better than 9 generations of native Han practitioners?
I have read the Tao te Ching. I understand it. I try to embody the Way. The discord between us isn't necessary. We aren't retard westerners arguing about Jew magic.

>Chinese know the Tao best
Maybe, but you don't have to be Han to know it. Also, not all Chinese even know of it, let alone embody it.

>Dao is magic
Yes if you focus on such things as the Kick of Life and the manifestation of the Flow State into reality. However, Lao Tzu didn't ask for temples to be built in his honor, or in any spirits' honor. All we have is the Tao Te Ching, an ancient book. Yet, it is quite natural to understand. I suppose it is not enough to understand the Tao, because you must also embody it.
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>>534281357
The one who loses to chariots? Lmao
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>>534283705
It's retarded to think that kicking all the Jews out of a country because one or a few Jews in a certain bumfuck town got accused of something is an appropriate measure.
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>>534283582
>>534283630
You still don't understand what accountability means. Accountability doesn't mean being held to justice. It means repenting for your misdeeds. Something dogs and most niggers are incapable of. Something very few criminals actually do. Forcing accountability through sentencing is not the same as an individual having accountability. US justice system requires the criminal to know why they are being punished. This is key.

>being ruled incompetent == still being accountable
No, just because you still have to suffer doesn't mean you're accountable for anything. You're so low iq that you don't know what planet you're on. How can such an individual truly be accountable for anything? We are talking about what is essentially an animal
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>>534283909
Listen, moron, you can hold someone accountable even if they do not understand or accept it, but the method shifts from fostering shared responsibility to setting firm boundaries and enforcing consequences. Accountability is ultimately about delivering on commitments, and if a person lacks that understanding, you must focus on clear expectations, consistent consequences, and protective, proactive boundaries to manage the situation effectively.
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>>534283887
>Jews were actually innocent
Nice try kek
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>>534283977
>the method shifts from fostering shared responsibility to setting firm boundaries and enforcing consequences
Animals don't understand consequences. For example, if a cat spills soda on your new Macbook, then you hit the cat, the cat will have 0 idea why you're attacking it. We humans can "enforce consequences", but the party upon which said consequences are being enforced is ignorant to the flow of cause and effect. Therefore, you are not enforcing consequences. You are doing something else entirely.

>what else?
Ideally you're representing the common good by removing those who do not fit within society
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>>534284091
>Animals don't understand consequences.
Doesn't matter. You still enforce consequences
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>>534284147
They're not consequences, at least not from the point of view of the animal. If the animal doesn't understand cause and effect, then what the fuck do consequences have to do with anything? You're using the wrong word. That's not the right use for the word.
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Would you call clearing a termite infestation "enforcing consequences?" No. You're simply doing something that needs doing. You don't have to overcomplicate it any further than that.
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>>534284199
>They're not consequences, at least not from the point of view of the animal.
Irrelevant

>If the animal doesn't understand cause and effect, then what the fuck do consequences have to do with anything?
To send a message. That actions have consequences.
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>>534284247
>Would you call clearing a termite infestation "enforcing consequences?" No.
Yes. As the termites damage is a consequence already. So the appropriate consequence is to remove them.
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>>534283770
>All we have is the Tao Te Ching
And the I Qing. And Penglai. And Shiji. And Shan Hai Jing. And... nah, nevemind. You know everything already. Everything about Dao. Everything about Christianity. Everything about Greek Philosophy.

Pray that someday, you manage to see beyond what you know and learn more still.



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