I think a lot of people voting in the polls are virtue signaling. If this were a real poll with real implications, a lot more people would choose red.Also consider 1. The different societies and how they view this question. China + India + Pakistan + Bangladesh + Nigera make up half of the world's population.2. Game theory says you should vote red because the blue button is not a stable equilibrium.3. How often has society actually been cooperative throughout history when selfish motives have been involved? How often does someone betray their country as a traitor, or betray a cause (example a union leader getting a bribe)? In a real life or death situation, do you think 51% of people will choose blue? Additionally, what percentage of people do you think would choose blue? I'd say about 20%.Alternate version of the question: Only people who are capable of understanding the question will vote. So no children or dementia patients. Does this change the way you'd vote?
>>534283261Red, not participating in the Pointless Death Gamble (PDG), sorry.
>>534283309Are you Indian?
>>534283261Depressingly accurate.>>534283331Of course he is.
>>534283368So you'd press blue? What's your reasoning behind this?
>>534283261There are no negative consequences for choosing red. Pressing blue is virtue signaling, bluesimps have a hero complex. Pressing anything other than red doesn’t even make sense. The outcome will be the same for everyone. What if those who don’t press any button actually want it all to end? Blue niggers impose themselves on everyone else that way too.
>>534283261>Which button are (you) pressing?An interesting question, huh ... :)
Only cattle press coloured buttons.
kill all button niggers
>>534283454I press whichever button kills all niggers.
Why do red-chuds forcibly de-anonymize the hypothetical every time?The posed scenario explicitly says you are anonymous when you press the button. There is no "virtue signalling". You aren't announcing which button you pressed. Nobody is watching which button you press, it's not public.
>>534283261Yo this one is perfect. Can I save it, or does it glow too hard?
>>534283538Reading comprehension is hard. No one is announcing their vote INSIDE the scenario. I'm talking about people discussing the scenario. All the blue voters on reddit and twitter claiming they'd vote blue in a real scenario as well.
>>534283261Hmmmm is that assignment as done in OP‘s pic even correct ?
>>534283261Nazis would be red red. The logical choice is we all press red, ans force the Jews ar gunpoint to press blue.
>>534283261The worst part about this image is that we will end up with just Libright and Authleft and now we have to fight them to the death.Can we have a narrated story of what happens next?I want to see how the war unfolds.
>>534283331>>534283368I'm White and I'm tired of the retarded blue-button retards letting shitjeets into the country because it makes them feel good to help people.
blue of course>but if everyone just pressed red everyone would survive!yes, and if everyone just sat down and sang kumbaya we could have real communism, but thats not how real life works. if you invest yourself in any kind of collectivist "if everyone just.." thing you are low IQ
I'm not pressing any buttons because this is a stupid fucking hypothetical just like the man vs bear thing everyone was bitching over. How the fuck did this get so popular anyways?
>>534283664>Can we have a narrated story of what happens next?Just play Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare lilbro, this is basically the entire plot. Private corp takes over the world's infrastructure.
>>534283685How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today morning?
>>534283678You're contradicting yourself. Blue is the collectivist button.
>>534283604I think this is more accurate
>>534283261nazis think red button and push red button and you're a faggot for perpetuating this slide topic faggot
>>534283752Why would libright say red and push blue?
>>534283782To add to it, blue is the collectivist choice, completely opposite of what libertarians stand for.
>>534283752Thats even better here… i think thats finally correct
>>534283782>>534283802I fixed it in the last version
>>534283261Red. I just want blue cucks dead.
>>534283832Why would authleft say red? They stand for the collective. Even if they privately choose red I think they're saying blue.
Blues killed my father.
>>534283832I agree with this, so I would.press red
>>534283851Based
>>534283261Blue, im not becoming part of largest genocide in human history, and id rather die than see apocaliptic consequences of half of population dying at the same time
>>534283261Right side thinks red says redLeft Auth thinks red says redLeft liberal thinks red says red unless they are running the old Woke 1.0 software from 2016
>>534283721I'm just saying, the whole "red and blue buttons" psyop is bullshit.
>>534283743sorry you're just too dumb to understand the pro red argument ive seen time and time again makes radically collectivist assumptions about how people operate, literally using the same logic as collectivist ideologies: "if everyone just does x we can y..."sorry thats not how real life works
A popular sentiment I've noticed in the comments section of these discussions is>Have fun living in a world full of red people, I'd rather die.Which is funny because we already live in a world full of red people.>>534283971Why would you assume it's half of the population? Realistically I think only 20-30% of the population would vote blue. I can live with that.>>534284003It's a good hypothetical that reveals just how much people love to virtue signal.
So how do the blue button pressers die? this question is dumb because it lacks any context.if the actual scenario is: red button pushers go kill all blue button pushers if they "win" the election, then red pushers are murderous psychopaths. voting for blue means you dont want to kill people.
>>534284027But it's just the trolley problem dressed up differently
>>534284013I'm not dumb but I still don't understand how blue is NOT the collectivist button, according to you.
>>534284054In the trolley problem you are almost always safe since you are operating the lever. But in this scenario you are involved and your life is at stake.
>china+infia make up half the world's populationAcutally that's an interesting aspect I hadn't considered. I am an ardent red button pusher but knowing that the only people who push the blue button will be altruistic whites makes me realize that even after pushing the red button I will be left in a world with even fewer white people. I still won't press blue because I know whotes are like 10% of global pop but it's sad to think of the outcome.
>>534284048the niggers, jews, and jeets I don't like would always press red, and the people I like would probably press blue. These are the only two reasons I need to press blue
>>534284099Good point. Though I think you're being a little pessimistic about these societies, they're traditionally family oriented so there's a good chance they press blue.>>534284126>the niggers, jews, and jeets I don't like would always press redHow do you know this?
>>534283566It's all yours my friendPlease credit @BigJim66 when you do so
>>534284081Fair point. I guess this would fall in a more custom-made trolley scenario.
>>534284055because blue uses the polar opposite logic, you know that people are individuals making individual choices for individual reasons, and under those conditions, blue achieves the best outcome
>>534284144They're niggers, jews, and jeets. They always only care about themselves. Look at their home countries.
>>534283611>force the Jews ar gunpoint to press blueNew to the Einsatzgruppe, are you ... :)
>>534284167I think you have red and blue confused. Red is the survive no matter what button. Blue is the survive if 51% of the population votes blue button.>>534284195If this question was asked in the middle ages when Europe was in shambles, would your logic still be applicable?
Polling is a way to influence voters, not predict who people will vote for. Australia has the best example where a national vote to change the constitution in favour of aboriginals seemed to have universal support, 70%+ support in polling, nobody said anything bad about the idea. Then on the day of the actual vote 80% of people voted no and chuckled to themselves. The people on the far left who drank their own cool aid had a meltdown, some killed themselves, many were committed to psychiatric, they went around for months screeching in public and crying on the TV.Much like brexit, the government ignored the result of the election and did what they were officially planning to do anyway. We knew they would, our consent was never required it just didn't cost them anything to go on a political fishing expedition
>>534284261I don't know enough about the time period to say. Back then a lot of cultures weren't aware of each other and it was a disconnected kill or be killed between smaller groups and tribes, I think the people weary of opposing forces would pick red while the ignorant and optimistic in well off societies would pick blue.Yes I think it applies at least somewhat.
>>534284261no im not confused at all, you dont understand what you are reading red is literally incapable of producing the best outcome while blue has a pretty good chance of producing the best outcome collectivist ideologuse think they can game the system saying "well if everyone just presses red then no one dies and thats obviously the best choice" but "if everyone just.." is not something that exists outside of the minds of collectivists ergo red is incapable of producing the ideal outcome
>>534283261Neither. I choose to exit the matrix
>>534284424Okay I'm starting to get what you're saying. Yes, under no circumstances will red produce the ideal outcome (everyone survives). But it will guarantee your (individual) survival. By pressing blue, you are hoping the collective has also pressed blue so you don't die.
>>534284424I think it's as simple as nothing good can be made without some self sacrifice.
>>534284410Okay what you say makes sense. But this only makes sense to an outsider looking in. Ask an Indian or a Chinese guy whether they like their neighbor and they'd probably say yes. They don't understand the concept of low-trust/high-trust societies. And these are societies with large families where grandparents and uncles/aunts live together. So there's even more incentive for them to press the blue button.
Can you stop participating in jewish studies to instruct jewish niggers on how to enslave you some more? I press the purple button and unleashing Zyklon on globohomo jews
>>534283706So they beat the commie or what?
>>534284627retard
>>534284663lol no the commies are the "good" guys in the storyIt's a really good story though worth a playthrough or just watch it on youtube
You have no control over others pressing the button. Meaning the mass death is purely determined by the wider majority. Therefore pressing red or blue is only a question of whether you die as well, of the majority press red.Your button pressing has no effect on thr outcome outside of your own survival.
>>534284594>Izzat>Sanhedrin/noahide laws>history or lack thereof in AfricaChina is pretty snakish due to them being constantly invaded and raped into being mutts from the extreme disadvantage of living on the plains, and I don't know enough about them to say with certainty.Niggers, jews, and jeets however are a guarantee red
>>534284027>Why would you assume it's half of the population? Realistically I think only 20-30% of the population would vote blue. I can live with that.Quarter of the world population are children under 15, they wouldnt pick one or the other based on the based on reason, so it would be 50/50, but because of the way question is phrased i would assume older members of this demographic would most likely pick blue too since they would feel bad about killing so many people. Most of their parents would have no way to know which button their kids would pick so they would too chose blue, as only way to reasonably increase chances of kids survival. There are also have people with common empathy and i believe they would pick blue, not to virtue signal as OP sugests (vote is anonymous after all) but because they realize how monstrous this choice is. And then you have people that assume that based on those assumptions, which are logical enough, you would lose at the very least bilions of kids and young productive members of their societies at the same time. Even if its just 30% of population thats enough to completely destroy society as you know it. Supply chains break down, militaries around the world are left understaffed, milions of traffic accidents happen all at the same time. It could be chaos for months or years after, and i dont want to be one to live throught it
>>534283261I press my belly button, dig out the lint, and then sniff my finger. CHECKMATE RED VS BLUE RETARDS!
>>534284873When I said virtue signal I meant people doing it in twitter polls where the risk is removed.But you make an interesting point. I'm single but I never thought that parents might have a vested interest in pressing blue.
>>534283516>>534283538>>534283596>>534284013>>534283971>>534284766Red is just "jew win" button. /thread move on.The answer is "white" button.The answer is 4chan withdrawal prevention center. It’s called the psyops sommelier society. If you're getting tired of algo slop, you should just start building your own communities or if you cba you can join my SimpleX chat : https://smp17.simplex.im/g#lzALEMkYHHloE3BusU9TrqIsv4XIQa_6fzIrnT7gz1QDesktop app : https://simplex.chat/downloads/>Inb4 : “muh you glow” “I’m not clicking that link nigga”Nope. You’re the demoralization shill. I got bad news for you. It’s only going to get worse. Especially worse, starting 2026. If you want actual anon discussion, talk about geopolitics, esoteric political pattens, finance, tech stuff, philosophy, paranormals while at the same time some banter allowed, places like clearweb img boards are no longer some sort of isolated layer where we can laugh at normiefags all day. Being able to not be seen is the real anon power. We’re not watching them anymore, we’re being watched. Become self aware and have metacognition for once you autistics anons. Discord, Telegram, X are not not really anonymous and namefag apps are inherently privacy nightmare. SimpleX is more like IRC feels - incognito mode, multi profile and no phone number needed to join. Beware : this chat is post-populist chat : woke right/woke left, insecure idpol shills don’t bother. This is not intended to be a safe-space. It was normal for people to have different opinion. But you can still joke around here and there and throw in some /pol/ memes and snarky comments in between also, unlike some faggot mods on Telegram. Come here say hi.
Not reading allat lilbro.
Something funny I found in another thread. Are all the bluebuttoners still being as altruistic now?
>>534284159Big Jim? Like The Big Jilm himself?
You reach down and flip the button on its back, Anon. The Red Button lays on its back, its Blue Button baking in the hot sun, beating its Red Button trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that, Anon?
Just tell everyone to press red and everyone will be fine. This is a stupid social experiment.
>>534283261im literally going to tell everyone to vote blue, then vote red myself. hopefully the blues will win, but if they don't im safe.
>>534285065That pic is retarded. Blue has the condition that you live if 51% of people press it. Purple is just straight up dying with zero upsides and you dont get to save anyone. Its closer to the strawman about the suicide pact redfags love to bring up all the time.
>>534283261>Alternate version of the question: Only people who are capable of understanding the question will vote. So no children or dementia patients. Does this change the way you'd vote?Yes, 100% red in that instance. That's my only internal point of contention with the original question that would cause me to consider blue.
>>534283261Red button is for childless people, with no family, friends, and sense of community. Blue botton assures all your loved ones survive. Blue is the social contract button. Red is for the most base, most selfish and most isolated of apes.
>>534285896/pol/ is full of lonely autistic faggots. Thats why you see the most unhinged takes from redfags here.
>>534283261Guess im communist now. Dont like them either btw.
>>534283261this button pressing faggotry is a retarded reductionist click-farming distraction from real world matters that are nuanced and complex that have no right to be considered binary choices.
>>534283261I am transcended, I don't press any button at all, nothing happens to me.
>>534283261>I'd say about 20%.Experiment said 56%.
Whos trying to shift the context to kill half of everyone?
Just give me the everyone button
>>534283261What if only eligible voters (adults) in your country gets to vote on it? Which button would you pick if you know for certain that a majority is gonna press blue?
>>534285794>Purple is just straight up dying with zero upsides and you dont get to save anyoneyou save greens
>>534283261
>>534283261Kill a jew on your work every day.
I picked the red button. The reasoning was the bog standard reasoning you'd see anywhere (no risk to me personally. Everyone should choose this anyway etc). But there's another reason I've found based on the way the blue people act about the red pressers. In a world where blue wins, I have zero doubt there would be death squads going door to door trying to find the people who pressed red. Just look at the way they type. Look at how angry they are. If they win, they are going to make the red button real anyway.
>>534285896My relatives being not retarded blueniggers ensures that they survive.
>>534283261Blue.
Given that some amount of people will choose blue no matter what, it is the moral imperative of everyone to also vote blue as to guarantee that nobody dies. Red voters have blue voter blood on their hands.
>>534283832correct version
>>534284476the ascendend ones influence the ones bellow.. few understand and they are non-physical. You're just green panel iteration
>>534287232That's the best one so far. 10/10.
Gotta love the "if half the people die it would be the end of the world" crowd. Meanwhile all that would happen is there would be a month or two of disorder as survivors have to catalogue all the important jobs that have been vacated and work on filling them and then literally everything goes back to normal. People genuinely do not realize how many completely useless jobs and people exist out there.
>>534287694Typical American ofcourse you press the BBC button.
>>534283454People that press blue are more social towards others, I could press red and live for sure but risk that I get to live with less social people aka non whitesI'd rather die than live in a world with the majority of whites dead and the rest being antisocial retards that think like nigs and actual nigs
This is an actual litmus test for moralizing retardsNo one is actually in jeopardy but simply implying that Blue is the benevolent choice will herd the midwits towards it
>>534289238Actually. Blue button pressers are in jeopardy. The problem revolves around local vs. global optimization, and how knowledge about the way others say they will act shapes mass behavior.
>>534283261Blue blue
I think living in a world of red button pushers would be worse than dying.A bunch of gay crypto homos constantly talking about predator eyes and shit.I'd kill myself.
>>534288092>>One of the important jobs vacated was shit like gps adjustment.>>Red button pushers worldwide panic fire arsenals and the lower quality reds are busy looting.World collapses anyway.
these are bot threads and youre all bots
>>534289729I'm not :(.
>>534288828anon, you're supposed to be social AND not stupid at the same time
>>534283261>virtue signalingTake the Swiss draft/civic duty vote: 84% of the voters rejected the idea that women should serve too in some form (not necessarily in trenches). In essence, even a good chunk of men voted against fairness and for the idea that only men need to sacrifice a months of their prime to serve the country.What it tells us is that, as a group, people are neither fair nor altruistic but selfish as you can be sure that most of these votes came from women and men who're too old to be affected - meaning at it's worst selfish roasties and boomers telling the young what's best for them.The same likely applies here, where the game theory equilibrium is not in actually voting blue, but in signaling to others that they should vote blue. In this way, you can be selfish and you can't lose even if you actually end up voting red because either the gullible idiots make blue happen (which gives you a world full of marks) or they vote for their own extinction (you're blameless).
>>534289477You seem to misunderstandBefore the problem even arises I ask, why would there be any Blue button pressers?The only reason for Blue button pressers to exist is to save people who press BlueI assume this thought experiment was performed with rational actors. What would be the point to including children, people who can't think or would flail wildly and hit the wrong button by accident?and finally let's flip the question on its headin this problem:If even one person does not press the Blue button, blues dieRed is the same as beforefrom pic related, which I presume is the source, I gather that people can't speak to each otherI'm not taking into account what they say, the voters are isolated
>>534283261There are no buttons. It is not a real choice. You are not in control.
>>534290126this. the whole premise is that someone's retarded enough to do it by accident. or "everyone in the world" literally included infants and small children, which is probably why someone would do it in the first place
>>534283261in germany we have a saying that roughly translates to "if everyone minds ones own business then everyones business is minded" (Wenn jeder an sich denkt, ist an alle gedacht.). so yeah red is the correct answer.
>>534283832This version is definitely the best but there's just one thing. Why would someone lie and say they're hitting red only to hit the blue button? The whole blue gambit rests on convincing as many people that more than half will press blue or at least that's how I see it.
>>534283309FPBP>If you don't risk your life based on this gamble you are not White.I'm White. I'm just not a suicidally empathetic "white".
>>534283261bluetards: are you saying that those who push red are not to be trusted? so you be better off pressing red actually?
>>534283261The question can be simplified down to:"Will you risk your life to save someone you don't know and who put themselves in danger?"For me the answer is I won't.
>>534283261>"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."you either die a blue button pusher or live long enough to become a red button pusher.
>>534283538You're announcing which button you pressed right now..
>>534290296Gesunder Egoismus.
>a man below the age of 30 who doesnt push blue has no heart, one who doesnt push red after 30 has no brains.
>>534283261I'm genociding the jews.
>>534290584my fellow germans are like children:“The terrible events of the World War also taught us how deep the differences between the various peoples and races are, and how all pronouncements of humanity and the brotherhood of humankind have been unable to bridge national and racial hatred. Apart from the Germans, no other people in the world has yet taken the idea of brotherhood seriously; all are filled with ruthless national selfishness and proudly call it sacro egoismo (sacred selfishness).”Theodor Fritsch, Handbook of the Jewish Question (29th ed.), 1923—german original„Auch die furchtbaren Ereignisse des Weltkrieges haben uns darüber belehrt, wie tief der Gegensatz zwischen den verschiedenen Völkern und Rassen ist und wie alle Deklamationen von Humanität und Menschheits-Verbrüderung nicht im Stande waren, den nationalen und Rassenhaß zu überbrücken. Außer den Deutschen hat bisher kein Volk in der Welt es mit den Verbrüderungs-Gedanken ernst genommen; alle sind sie von rücksichtsloser nationaler Selbstsucht erfüllt und bezeichnen sie stolz als sacro egoismo (heilige Selbstsucht).“Theodor Fritsch, Handbuch der Judenfrage (29.Aufl.), 1923
There is literally no consequence to pressing red. The blue button just filters out all the retards.
>>534283981> Left liberal thinks red says red unless they are running the old Woke 1.0 software from 2016Wait I don't get this one... why isn't left liberal blue blue anymore?
>>534283865>>534290325Yeah.
>>534283261I choose red specifically to kill the virtue signalers
>>534287537Yes they literally think red is attempted murder.
>>534283261>>534291897This makes the most sense.>Authleft cares about appearances but doesn't actually care about the fate of others>Authright isn't empathetic to the point of suicide and has no sympathy for those dumb enough to make that mistake>Libleft is fucking retarded>It's in Libright's best interest for everyone to survive, but he's not dumb enough to risk his own life
>>534283261Pushing BLUE because when RED wins, I can get the fuck off this gay Earth.
Hilarious that bluefags’ best argument is that only retards, children, and other mental invalids would press blue and now you have to bet your life on that population being larger (and that they ALL pressed blue) versus the number of izzat farming jeets and other undesirables.We don’t force people who make swimming pools to play Russian roulette because some niglet fell in and drowned.
>>534290565Anonymously, yes
>>534283261I do not give a shit about blue pushers. Their attempts at shame look so pathetic.
>>534293640They the equivalent of white feather bitches
>>534283261not a single red argument holds water. not even the talmudic suicidal empathy claim against blue makes sense. the instant 51% red wins, half of all humans die, obviously everyone who has an ounce of altruism, so the only ones living are the worst self serving, backstabbing opportunists humanity has to offer. everyone left alive knows they pushed red so when the game runs a second time, everyone will know everyone is pushing red again. needless to say only a fraction of these sociopaths are truly determined to stay alive as resources dwindle and are not going to wait to play the gay button game again to eliminate their competition. this smaller fraction of a fraction red psychopaths will kill the retarded /pol/ reds in their sleep, meaning reds have a shorter lifespan than blues who can play the button game indefinitely because they have an intuitive trust in humanity for a mere plurality do the right thing.therefore reds are unquestionably MORE suicidal than blues. reds lost. get raped by trannies
As a right wing vegan I want to reduce the number of omnivores to zero and think Thanos was partially right.
