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I never got around to her work until very recently. Had a copy of Atlas Shrugged as a teenager that I never got through. Too busy playing BioShock.

Tell me if I've got her right:

>government is corrupt and evil and bureaucrats and politicians are self-interested
>family is unreliable and meaningless it slows and drags you down
>all interpersonal relationships are transactional and fleeting temporary alliances based upon mutual benefit
>all religious organizations and social organizations are for show by hypocritical self-interested individuals
>the inherent value of a person is rooted in their ability to produce
>the needy are not worth your time as they restrain and oppose progress and drag you down with them
>nationalism and all notions of collective identity and action are empty myths which cannot be counted on, there are only atomized competing individuals
>you can only rely on yourself
>nobody owes you anything

You can dismiss her worldview by calling her a Jew and moving on. But did she not just basically describe modern society? Why restrict our abilities to pursue our own self interest, if that is the default state of mankind?
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wow. a jew knowing what the jewish future holds. Odd hiw they all know. Same with Jewstradamus
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>>534283312
Jewish narcissist and a woman with severe mental issues, also a hypocrite and scam artist who stole money from her siblings.
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Why didn't Alisa Rosenbaum use her real name?
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>>534283312
>family is unreliable and meaningless it slows and drags you down
>all interpersonal relationships are transactional and fleeting temporary alliances based upon mutual benefit

Nothing more satanic than this. Your family legacy is everything
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>>534283373
Complete hypocrite that says that the nAP doesnt apply to the Jews in Israel.


How come every atheist “kike” is a raging Zionist?
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>>534283312

>government is a parasitic entity

Otherwise, this is what you get when you let a non-biologist think about the problem.
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>>534283312
>Thoughts on Ayn Rand?

A Jewish whore who made a cult of licking the balls of bank Jews...A servant of the elite, like all other "ideologists" before her, like Marx, but on the other side of the scale...
The system loves to create antipodes and extract profit from all versions of HIERARCHY and ECONOMICS...even though both hierarchy and economics have caused ONLY HARM to humanity.
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>>534283312
>Ayn Rand
a jewish slut that wrote a bunch of subverting wastepapery, long story short

shouldn've been toughly executed my our Russian Czarist authorites in the young age, together with her parents, not being let out to the US.
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>>534283312
>government is corrupt and evil and bureaucrats and politicians are self-interested
>family is unreliable and meaningless it slows and drags you down
>all interpersonal relationships are transactional and fleeting temporary alliances based upon mutual benefit
>all religious organizations and social organizations are for show by hypocritical self-interested individuals
>the inherent value of a person is rooted in their ability to produce
>the needy are not worth your time as they restrain and oppose progress and drag you down with them
>nationalism and all notions of collective identity and action are empty myths which cannot be counted on, there are only atomized competing individuals
>you can only rely on yourself
>nobody owes you anything

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None of the above is Ayn Rand's thinking... anyone who adheres to individualism knows that.

It's just a shame that true Non-Hierarchical Individualists are vanishingly rare in the world, while hierarchical ones like Ayn Rand are plentiful.

Ideologically, she's inside the pyramid—and therefore, as an ideologist, she's a useless whore who hasn't come up with anything better than to submit to the superpredator and his plan within the hierarchical system.
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>>534283312
she was a kike you fucking memeflag

but you knew that
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1. The fountainhead is a better book
2. Anthem is her best book
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larpflag buddy you have access to free Ai, it can summarize her views quickly and better than us.
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>>534286164
Who is middle image?
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>>534286282
>Who is middle image?
Sid Vicious and his wife -- Nancy Spungen
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Her "philosophical genius" ends exactly where someone asks the question WHO SHOULD REGULATE THE ECONOMY WITHOUT A STATE?... she's just a dumb woman who didn't even understand basic rules and laws... like the Iron Rule of Oligarchy... she completely ignored them... not to mention human nature... a fucking half-communist/half-ancap anarchoid...
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>>534286322
Was Sid Vicious abused by his wife?
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>>534286501
>Was Sid Vicious abused by his wife?
more like both of them abused drugs, or drugs abused them

depends how you look at it philosophically, i guess
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>>534286501
who knows, he did stab her to death during a drug binge
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>>534286164
Wasn't Sid just a drug addicted talentless asshole? Sort of like the Lil Peep of his day? I know punk became this left wing mainstream thing and maybe that is why history has not been kind to Sid.
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>>534283312
>Why restrict our abilities to pursue our own self interest, if that is the default state of mankind?
The ability to pursue your own interest is not restricted. Quite the opposite in fact. It's been taken to the extreme.

And anti-social behavior is restricted in order to maintain a healthy society.
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People like Rand and libertarians tend to think their likes and dislikes are less arbitrary somehow. It's just that most people think it's nice to not have people starving. Could view it as a form of self-interest even if that's how you're wired.
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>>534283312
Ayn rand had some great ideas but objectivism is a goofy cult.
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>>534283312
absolutely a nobody outside the US, this is a jewop.
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>schizo jew ancap on welfare dreaming about richistan
True American Icon™ (made in Pale of Settlement)
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>>534283312
The real question is why you needed a book to tell you things you can observe with your own eyes. I could dismiss her for being a Jew but I'm gonna dismiss you for being stupid and blind.
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>>534283312
I can agree with most of this but except her views on family and friendship.
But i also hold nationalist/cultural pride, but how can nationalism work if all layers of government can and inevitably will be corrupt?
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>>534283312
going on wellfare in her later years kind of sabotaged the message she was trying to get across.
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>>534283312
What was her real name?
Last name was Rosenbaum... From a Russian Jewish family...
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>>534283312
>All that matters is your ability to produce
>Other people slow down progress
If nothing matters what are you producing for and where are you progressing toward?
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>>534283373
>wow. a jew knowing what the jewish future holds
fpbp
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>>534283312
she was in favor of american money being sent to israel for them to expand territorially as much as possible but was against widows receiving taxpayer money
make of this what you will
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>>534283461
/thread
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>>534283312
You misunderstand.

Look at when Reardon's brother wants a job. He doesn't ask for a basic sweeper's job. He asks for some high paying office job that doesn't even exist. He's not asking for a job, he's asking for pay without work. At no point does he show respect to Reardon for his position to even offer him a job. He expects it, as he's a leech that wants what other's make.

The moral of Atlas Shrugged is to judge people based on their merits, not due to superficial bullshit. When Dagny buys the Reardon steel from Reardon, they don't bullshit. She needs the metal, and he needs to sell the metal. The Price is low, but not so low as to kill Reardon. They're both benefiting.

As for interpersonal relationships, this is covered in Gault's Gulch. You're not going to request rent from your wife. That's absurd, the family unit isn't transactional. But it's still mutually beneficial. The husband will go out and work, make the money that provides all the wife needs. And in return she cares for the husband, ensuring he's running at peak efficiency.

The moral isn't one group bad. It's that there's two kinds of people. People who like life. Who push to live, who fight for every breath. And as a result produce goods and services that allow them to not just survive, but live. And the useless class, leeches who don't really want to live. Who will live off the hard work of others and all the while, want to reduce their ability to make that money, and overall want to destroy what others have made.

Just look at Canada. Alberta keeps the county alive with oil. Who's tax revenue funds the east. What does the east do? Push to limit oil production and as a result, reduce the money they live on.

This is further seen in the breakdown of society in AS. Canada wants to ban firearms as the leech class is scared of the workers being fed up with their shit. But they still need to collect taxes while they destroy the country. So they bad guns.

Atlas Shrugged is my Bible.
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>>534283312
I couldn’t imagine investing any time into the ramblings of a woman. Wrote one gay little book now I gotta keep hearing about it forever



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