>The report, co-authored by Michal Meidan, director of the China Energy Programme at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies and based on interviews with energy and national security experts, identified eight separate risks linked to an over-reliance on Chinese green tech. >Among the greatest was supply chain disruption, according to the authors, who argued that China was likely to restrict supply of low-carbon technology and components. Beijing has increasingly used export controls in recent years to leverage its control over global supply chains.>An under-appreciated risk was that the US could demand Europe remove Chinese technology from its energy systems — or face tariffs, sanctions or reduced security commitments, according to the report. It noted that the UK banned Chinese telecoms equipment maker Huawei from supplying kit for Britain’s 5G mobile phone networks following intense pressure from the US.>Other risks include a large-scale disruptive attack that could use so-called kill switches to remotely disable solar panels, wind turbines and other technology, according to the authors. https://archive.ph/k2uNm
>>534283849They can always pay 10x the price domestically. I suspect based on basic human greed however they won't, and the fact Europe is bankrupt in every way imaginable.
if Chinese green energy tech worked, China wouldn't be the world's largest oil, gas, and coal importer by far
>>534283849>Europe>national anything
It threatens US dominance over EU energy market.
>>534284066bingo
>>534283849Bamboo doesn't burn wumao. Kys lying scum.
>>534283849If only Germany had nuclear reactors so it could manufacture solar panels themselves lmao
>>534283897>t. country with AA+ credit rating
>>534283898They're the biggest energy user period, meaning everything is amplified. Their green tech is making up a larger proportion of that stack by the year.
Kill all eurofoids. Total eurocrat death.
>>534283898The Chinese actually need energy to produce real stuff, unlike Blacked videos like the US.
>>534285696Ooof
>>534283897its more like x2 there are very few highly specialized companies some are betting on solar paint which has been in research for 20 years now.
>>534284907>Their green tech is making up a larger proportion of that stack by the year....>we increased co2 emissions to reduce co2 emissionsnah, that's just china monopolizing production
>>534283849Lol why is it so easy to trick the master race?
>>534285696Trvke
Having economic coercion is worse than being bombed repeatedly whenever the US-jew attack dog is sent your way, apparently. With the same economic control only you get violence and no products. This is your brain on late-stage Zionism. China is winning because their deal involves something for the people who are not Chinese. The US first imperial model is dead.
>>534283849>europe>nationalwhat?fuck the EU kikes.
>>534287194>2024
>that could use so-called kill switches to remotely disable solar panelssekrit chinese tech causing semiconductors to stop semi-conduncting on a whim
>>534287194
>>534284865Fucking Germans. You dumb cunts have really landed is in it. You’re here positing shit about Americans. While you’ve completely cut Europe off from all energy sources. And you continue to poison the well with China and Russia. I’m convinced the part of the brain that handles game theory geopolitics and long term strategic planning is being chemically killed in German babies since ww2 ended. We are FUCKED if we don’t find cheap energy Hanz. And fast.
>>534283897Nigger your debt is way higher than ours
>>534287443They’ve no intention of paying it you dope. They’re just planning on being the one with the most weapons and resources when the collapse comes. While we are holding their useless fucking paper and have zero access to vital minerals, oil and gas. Do you UNDERSTAND how things work.
>>534287395And they will completely destroy global trust in the Chinese technology brand. Which they’ve spent decades building up and reply upon. For what? Reasons?This level of thinking is depressingly stupid.
>>534283849>Among the greatest was supply chain disruptionSo:>Don't buy Chinese solar panels because maybe one day you won't be able to buy Chinese solar panels.Yeah makes perfect sense.....
>>534287482>They’ve no intention of payingThat's not how bonds work.They get payed back with interest all the time.And all the time they have to ask investors for new loans to pay back the old loans at every increasing interest rates.The US government spends more on interest than on its military.
>>534283898good job on being the dumbest american on /pol/ today
>>534283849literally the reason why we don't have green tech is because chine ruined the market with cheap products with a horrible footprint. They tried to make us re-dependent.
>>534283849>it is imperative that we all install green technology because it's all about saving the planet, don't you know>OI M8 WOT THE FOOK ARE YOU DOIN INSTALLING CHEAP SOLAR PANELS FROM CHINA, THINK OF THE PROFITS YOU ARE DEPRIVING US OF EVEN AS WE DON'T HAVE ANY MANUFACTURING CAPACITY TO MAKE THE FUCKING THINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE WE MOVED IT ALL TO CHINA FOR GREEN REASONSWhy are the EU so retarded, lads?
>>534287194Based China. Laughing at muh golbal warming CO2 cucks
>>534284651hows that related to what OP said? Is this a bit?
>>534283849>save the planet>not like that>>534285696bodied that mutt lmao
>>534283849>dont use coal>dont build nuclear plants>dont buy Chinese solar panels>dont buy Russian oil and gasso what are we supposed to do
>>534283849We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. Trying to argue with 90% of Europe is a waste of time. Their people are beyond demoralized. Intergenerational cucking has completely drained them of the will to stand up for anything virtuous, even the basic animal values of self-preservation. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it. Euros are educated in self-destructive nihilism from birth, and the fruit of this despondency is a complete spiritual collapse of the continent.The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim.A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out? No. When an attack happens, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!" Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry.It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)
>>534287433>We are FUCKED if we don’t find cheap energy So start drilling, Padraig. Make your worthless mami happy. Stingy little cocksucking catholic island monkeys.
>>534285696kek
>>534283849>Let's rely on chinks, what could go wrong, it worked so well with russians
>>534288335Import overpriced burger LNG
>>534288335diewe are supposed to die
>>534283849lol what should we do then. Russia sanctioned their oil, US cut of off from middle east and sells us their oil at 2x the price.Europe is so fucked.
>>534288666thanks but no thanks Satan
>>534288698Reopen the damn coal mines.
>>534288934There's no future for EU w/o normalizing relations with Russia and hooking up back to their oil and gas however I don't think this is possible with current EU matriarchy, will have to wait till people like Lyen and Kallas expire.
>>534289078American capitalist controlled puppets( all educated in west with masters in America or American universities) and their propaganda machines in social media and TV will not go away untill communism comes. Organise. Eat the rich. Deport USA embassies and military. Europe will self correct itself without American interference
>>534285696Mutt got Sansom'ed. Brutal.
>>534283849>potential supply issuesJust build while we have supply and if supply gets cut we just source it from elsewhere or make it ourselves
>>534285696The Blacked Porn Industrial Complex is owned and operated by Israelis, no Americans involved on any level.Nice try though.
>>534285696KEEEEK
>>534287526it's the same mistake they made with russian oil, so they're right to take it into account
>>534287632And yet here you are with virtually no military.
>>534287311>china is winning
>>534290863>real estate marketthe only people that care about real estate are faggots and jews
>>534290620It's not to same because oil gets consumed to extract energy but solar panels you install once and they produce energy for decades.Sure it will be annoying having to look for new suppliers but all the solar panels already installed will keep working.
>>534290927So, the chinese then.
>>534290965the Chinese did themselves a favor by poping the real estate bubble before it got out of control like in the US. Housing is a right not a commodity.
>>534290942and why shouldn't we do it ourselves, it creates jobs for something that is immediately useful for us in the long term, why rely 100% on a competitor country
>>534283926lol this#1 threat to the national security of European countries is the EU
>>534291026>the people losing 70% of their entire families wealth is a good thing actually
>>534283849>An under-appreciated risk was that the US could demand Europe remove Chinese technology from its energy systems — or face tariffs, sanctions or reduced security commitments, according to the report. It noted that the UK banned Chinese telecoms equipment maker Huawei from supplying kit for Britain’s 5G mobile phone networks following intense pressure from the US.True, and this is why we should also treat reliance on the US as a national security concern.
>>534291109the wealth is virtual. What matters is having a house over your head. The jews managed to convince the silly goyim (like yourself) that virtual wealth matters more than actual wealth.
>>534283897>Europe is bankrupt in every way imaginable.More jeets and other economic refugees will certainly fix that problem!
>>534291174Whatever you say man. Try explaining that to them.
>>534287395It is more dependency on a hostile nation and software vulnerability. If you buy a computer from someone else they might have backdoors and kill switches.
>>534291071Go ahead, I won't stop you.I just think it's dumb to name possible supply chain disruptions as a reason not to buy something that lasts decades.In fact all the arguments seem very convoluted.Clearly they authors just don't want you to buy Chinese and then they try their best to come up with arguments why.
https://pollmill.com/ja/f/what-is-the-size-of-riyoko-takagi-s-nipple-28slerb/answers/new.f
>>534291358it's not about never buying it, it's about not become dependant on it, because any weakness will be exploited in the world where we have cast away international lawour best interest is to be able to provide for ourselves for critical sectors like energy, for as much as possible. And there's no reason not to if we can do it, we can sell it among ourselves. People shit on EU but it's the only thing that can compete in the world's future against china and usa.
>>534291332The vast majority of software is made in Europe and America.Just because the hardware is Chinese doesn't mean it has to run Chinese software.It's also possible to use Chinese PV panels with European control electronics.Especially in industrial scale solar farms.
>>534287632a wise man once said you have to pay the cost to be the boss *splits* *sniffs* *unintelligible*
>>534291521>we can sell it among ourselvesWho gets to decide where it gets manufactured and who buys it?Should Germany manufacture and Belgium buy?
>>534291521>we can sell it among ourselves. People shit on EU but it's the only thing that can compete in the world's future against china and usa.lol anon, how about being competitive?what you're proposing is becoming next soviet union just with socialism for corporations instead workers.
>>534291521OK fine let's import oil from the gulf and gas from Russia for the next 30 years while we all wait for Belgium to set up solar panel production...
>>534283898>if Chinese green energy tech workedI have 70kw of chinese solar power running since two years ago in my factory i can i say that it actually works. Can they disable it online if they want? Yeah, probably. But just changing the inverter can stop them from do it.
>>534291580>The vast majority of software is made in Europe and America.*in India
>>534283849>national security problem for EuropeEurope isn't a nationThey are literally revealing that the EU's plan is to transform it into a single state
Europe will be able to match Chinese technology if it imports 100,000,000 Africans. They are doctors and engineers.(You laugh, but this is unironically how the EU thinks).
>>534283849Europe should have gone full nuclear decades ago but the (((powers that be))) have succesfully subverted europe in to going green and in return destroying the euro economy.
>>534291628number one, competitive is one thing, security is another. You can't import all your needs otherwise you eventually become a slavenumber two, competitivity only works if you play by the same rules, not in the current world where european workers need to follow certain rules, while indian workers don'tAgain, I'm not saying we have to only buy european, just that I prefer to buy belgium as much as possible and that I hope european countries have learned from the covid situation, the russian ukraine war situation and the iran war situation. that is all, I'm not going to debate for hours about our political models
>>534283849>kill switch your client>nobody ever buys shit from youYeah yet another NGO funded by mutts, spreading scaremongering about le bad China.Not implying Chinese are innocent either, but they have no interest in selling you something that they plan on remotely disabling. They'd be sabotaging their own industry.
>>534283849its because chinks subsidized solar so hard no company on the world could compete with that shit. basically selling solar under value just to kill every other producerthat said, at least a lot of solar modules got produced. could be worse.>>534287407thats really bad for chinks, over the last 20 years people kept repeating: but look! per capita usa is much worse than china! hopefully that will open some peoples eyesall that being said obviously europe can produce solar. who do you think the chinks stole the tech from? its just not worth it when chinks effectively gift us some of their taxes via under value solar panels
>>534293187>per capita usa is much worse than chinaIt still is. That chart is for the UK.I'm not surprised a German cannot read.
>>534293187Yeah Europe can and does produce solar gear, but chinks are unbeatable in terms of scale and cost. Especially on batteries.And the market won't buy more expensive just because it's made in Europe.it's a similar situation in the USA, the chinks also beat all its American competition in the solar panels sector.
>>534283849>Chingchong solar panels unsafe>Release hexavalent chromium into the water supply when broken>Turbo fucking aids cancer, even a small amount contaminates an entire water table>Chinese wind power uses a special fiberglass that catches fire when not if it's struck by lightning. >Spreads contaminants over hundreds of square kilometers. >Fiberglass pollution. >EU has a fucking boner for these planet saving alternatives.
>>534293294what kind of little faggot are you? lmao
>>534293829Says the nigger who can't read.
>>534293579>>EU has a fucking boner for these planet saving alternatives.Not really, like VW was poisioning whole Europe with their TDI engines for two decades. No arrests being made over it other than one of CEO's going to Florida for vacation and getting arrested by burgers there but...>In late September 2020, Schmidt was transferred to Germany where he was incarcerated at Hanover Correctional Center. In January 2021, he was released on parole after serving a bit more than half his sentence.... he still got free pass in the end
>>534283849>don't buy Chinese because Americans might not like itCuck yuropoors
>>534284651Aren't both of those Hong kong?
when was China ever hostile towards Europe?
>>534283898China's economy is rapidly growing. For example, in 2025, China's electricity consumption increased 5%. China can't build out green energy fast enough to replace hydrocarbons.
