Why do rightwingers think real communism has never been tried?
Because communism would only work if viewed through a conservative lens. Communism requires collective sacrifice, hard work, and a shared sense of moral values. Liberals don't want to sacrifice. They don't want to work hard. They don't have a shared sense of morality. All they want is free shit and to be able to do whatever they want while society cheers for their degeneracy.
Communism works on a very small scale: Hunter-gatherer tribes, or small farm communes like hippies and cults have. Any large scale society needs a division of labor and therefore winners and losers. The biggest winner is whoever decides the division of labor which in communism is "the people" which is the party of the people, which is the majority leader/strongest personality of the party which is one guy. In capitalism the division of labor falls solely on the individual participant to sell their own time or labor how they see fit.Larger societies are both more complex and more chaotic. Their problems are more complex and chaotic. Do you want your solutions to be complex and nuanced? (lawyerdom) or simple? (king said so)
>>534296428America did have free market capitalism in the 1800s and it was wildly successful.
>>534296428Capitalism has been tried and it worked great. Communism has been tried and it has never worked. That's the difference.
>>534296428I'm sure it can work but modern commies just want to get money for doing nothing while others keep society running.
>>534296590as someone who shifted from right to left and from very hard working to very not hard working depending on the weather i don’t think most people are rigid thinkers and can adapt to situations. with the exception of mentally ill extremists
>poverty is the natural state of man>communism is the default organization of hunter-gatherer tribes>communism is the natural state of manthere you go communists, have it for free
>>534296428I just think small businesses are neat and believe socialist/communists/mentally ill transexuals are the useful idiots of the elite.
>>534296428>corporatismI swear to god, 99% of people who use that word have no idea what it means.
>>534296428>never been tried
>>534296897You dont believe that do you?
>>534296428The economic zone formerly known as America has been a (mostly) communist country for more than 100+ years. Americans gleefully practice nine of the ten planks and most of them don't even know it.Happy Saturday!
>>534297277China won.
>>534297335Its true. The great depression was caused by central banking. Central banking is a pillar of communism. You don't think we live in a capitalist world today, do you?
>>534296897The robber barons made shitloads and created the pseudo royalty we still have today, yes.At least they made some strong companies and like, built libraries and universities and shit
>>534296428These "right wingers" are e-celebs who have never sat through pol or econ 101.
>>534298371Careful, anon. Telling Americans that they're communists just pisses them off.
>>534296428>corps can collude with the government >but not amongst themselvesthe free market will never existbetween real capitalism and real communism, I'd take the one that turned a feudal state into a nation capable of exploring space in 50 years – as opposed to the one that simply inherited the riches plundered from 400 years of imperialism and claimed to be superior
>>534296428Many right wingers are poisoned by the illusion of capital accumulation, social hierarchy, financial abstraction, religious dogma, and supremacism.A communist society strives to industrialize, train, mobilize, and grow people into a mass state of the proletariat by the proletariat. It is mass societal mobilization, which to capitalists is a threat to their perceived social position and power obtained through financial domination of their own people, the working class, who are paid in wages in order to subsist themselves while they reap the surplus.The issue is that people are placated and fed slop into their heads to remain good consumers and are infantilized to the point where they see no alternative, so they continue living like second class citizens in their own nations while the capitalists short their future away.
>>534296428Why do left wingers refuse to blame the jews for the failure of communism?
>>534298867>Proletariat Cringe
>>534296590Communism works at it's best when it's applied on a small commune because everyone knows each other and know the consequences of not doing their part even if they don't like it, also it needs a leader that knows deeply every detail of what the group needs on a micro scale, and that's why you can't scale it to a country.
>>534296428Real capitalism has been tired. It never stays neutral once a group of colluding people get too rich. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with communists. They just can't get their shit together no matter what. Not even short term good. Mix of capitalism and socialism seems to work the best.
>>534296855Hippies always failed where the Amish succeeded and they got a good dose of capitalism mixed in. Funny that a group of people who are Bible oriented with an 8th grade education do better than people looking too closely into ideas from Ashkenazi Jews and Shabbos goyim.
>>534296428>corporations can collude with the government to regulate away competitionCompetition is only present in the initial, unstable phase, of a free market. After that, the market settles into an oligopoly or monopoly, which is a much more stable state of affairs.The only way to go back to the instability of competition is for the big, bad government to intervene.
>>534296590Isn’t the only difference that the workers would own the means of production (so really the state not the actual people doing the heavy lifting) so you would get fucked in the ass by the elite left instead of some guy who owns the machine.
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