Natural Borders of ItalySlavs are not a maritime people.Why give them a coastline?
>>534297027I don't understand why southern Italy is so financially backwards in comparison to the north, was it feudalism?
>>534297195probably the magna graecia genes
>>534297195north had stable republics like The Netherlands and Imperial Free Cities of the HRE. You should have a mental model that from Florence-Venice till Switzerland and The Rhine there was way more freedom than anywhere else in Europe
The blue banana mogs through lack of Feudalism + Maritime/Alpine cultures. Hence here protestantism also succeeded
>>534297195That’s a big rabbit hole that can’t be explained in 2000 characters or less
>>534297027All I know is that they can never get their dirty hands on Trieste. It would be an abomination
>>534297195because there's too many shitskins
>>534297027roman niggers did a diversity is our strength oopsie and slavs bred like rats
>>534297027I am a simple yellow region dweller. If a person from outside the yellow region criticizes it, I say my region is better. If a person from inside the yellow region criticizes it, I agree, but only because of the other cities, mine's better.
>>534297195cuz a lot of the people from south moved to US, Argentina, North Italy,...
>>534297195The capital naturally flowed North after unification with the South, the latter being left to devolve into a purely agragian economy, making it a net receiver of government aid once social democracy kicked in, with the same results as foreign aid in Africa, i.e. it’s better to be on the dole than to work for a pittance. And that’s not even accounting for agricultural hurdles due to the climate or olice tree sickness, and the mafia etc. And of course the state just keeps throwing money at the problem, making things worse.
>>534298336Can I move to Emilia-Romagnia to work in automotive?
>>534298567your country is about to be richer than the UK per capita. Why even move?
>>534297027Italians aren't even a people. Neither are the Dutsch, just listen to their "language" for a minute, it's just some form of trolling that went too far.
>>534298567I hear the climate is horrible there, i'ts always very humid and the air is polluted. But the pay is not bad even in that shithole Piacenza
>>534298735Italian is universally considered a pleasant and elegant language to listen to.
>>534297195The kingdom of the two Sicilian was rich and successful. Then the British and French engineered the Risorgemento and basically established a French monarchy that taxed the south into oblivion and installed fat French governors
>>534297027I'll, let your swamp neger ass to know, that Trentino-Alto Adige (which Mutts & other uneducated niggers mistakenly call "South Tyrol" (only province of Bolzano is an actual "South Tyrol")), is majority Italian.Also your map is missing Ticino.Everything else is correct.
>>534297195The north if I remember correctly was industrialized first.This was the same shit that happened in America where theres a stark difference between two places in the same country all due to industrialization and the transition to factory work from craftsman.I wouldn't be surprised if southern italy is more cultured than the north because of this fact.
>>534298946Which Italian? >We have made Italy, now we have to make Italians. -D'Azeglio
>>534297195House of Savoy (the royal family that ruled after unification) originated from Piedmont, and preferred industrialising the Northern Italy first due to market access, and not having earthquakes / volcano bursts, like Mezzogiorno has had to deal with through out its history.
>>534298946Not in Europe. Italians are seen as loud and obnoxious by most other nations.Now that i think of it, most european nations think of the burgers as loud and obnoxious, makes sense that you think italian is plesant.
>>534299149strike that, you're missing Trieste & Fiume & the surrounding country side Venezia Giulia.
>>534298050I still dont know how Italy managed to swing capturing Trieste after losing WWII
>>534299705Trieste has always been majority Italian, as was the land bridge that we've to it.
>>534299291>Mezzogiornoohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>534298640For the plebs, not engineers.
>>534299496Loud and obnoxious doesn’t have anything to do with the language itself though.
>>534297027Sorry but Italy lost the right to the mediterranean ater losing a naval battle to Austria (a landlocked country) at Lissa
>>534300029> Habsburg empire had no navyTruly a Moroccan post
>>534297195italians are just french rape babies
>>534299705Granted by Churchill.Churchill demanded it from Stalin, in order to have a secure landing zone for the western Allies to attack Vienna if the Germans ever got uppity again, and Stalin pressed Yugo Tito for it, which soured relations – Tito's forces evicted Germans mostly by themselves, with some outside support but no foreign boots on the ground to help them, so after winning in the field, having to give up lands to paper shuffling lefy a bitter aftertaste
>>534299090Yes precisely
>>534297195Northern Italy has better geography. It has a large plain, the Po Valley, where infrastructures are easier to build, and the Alps can be used for hydroelectric power plants.
>>534298735Houd je smoel onze taal is gewoon mooi
>>534298735> t. Sulejmanovicv
>>534297027>Slavs are not a maritime people.Basically this.Can you name any slavic country with a powerful navy at ANY time of their history.For example, Russian navy was always a laughing stock.In 1905 they lost to Japs, people that 20 years earlier moved beyond the Middle Ages to the Industrial era.
>>534302048> what's the Soviet Navy / RF NavyTruly a shoe size IQ NAFO faggot
>>534302048>Typhoon class attack submarine
>>534302048Peter the Great once tried to learn Dutch shipbuilding when he visited us and became such a fanboy that he stole our flag and made it the flag of the Russian navy, which is now their national flag.
>>534302200And what Soviet navy achieved?Ahh..nothing>>534302265Overengineered expensive shit that was scrapped already.Slavs aren't sea-faring species. Deal with that.Even Turks have stronger maritime traditions.
>>534297027>not including Aquelia>not including Trieste >not including Ragusa>not including Albanianot fully natural mate>>534299291Even beyond the political decisions, Sicily has been treated as a colonial holding since the Roman Empire and endured 1,000 years of being passed between Moors, Normans and Spaniards before returning to Italian rule, and even that was mostly colonial in nature until post WWII when they were granted autonomy. Sicilians didn't really rule themselves since the days of the Sicels. The Romans basically destroyed the island's native ecology to make it one massive wheat plantation.
>>534302750>even Turks have syronger maritime traditions That's almost entirely from converted Greeks
>>534302750> what Soviet navy achieved?You Euro-faggots truly have African level education these days, reminiscing the times of the great empires.> Largest nuclear & non-nuclear submarine fleet in the human history> anti-ship missile systems> Navy created for Artic, Pacific & Mediterranean environments> all created from scratch as an agrarian societyWhat has your home country of Albania achieved?
>>534297195Southern Italy was more focused on agriculture while the North was around commerce. There is a lot of money and potential growth in commerce and little in agriculture.
>>534303078Turks don't have any sea tradition. Greek native families are the largest owners of Cargo + LNG container ships on Earth, Greeks have a larger shipping fleet than China
>>534303073Sicilian Autonomy is not a grandiose one outside of local agricultural & fishing regulations, retaining about 95% of their own collected taxes & can organise their health service, education & infra projects as they see fit.More or less the same as province of Bolzano (they have the highest per capita in the country), yet are still losing people, because mafia syndicates have managed, with their tax avoidance Olympiad, to nullify all of the benefits of their autonomy.None of that will ever change until the locals hang every single mafia family member.>>534303310They had a decent oil & gas production in the past, and probably have a great number of riches in their lands, but very few are interested in developing them.
>>534303499It's not great but you don't undo ~2,300 years of being ruled as a dysfunctional plantation economy in two or three generations. Things only ~100 years ago were so bad that an American negro visited and was so shocked by things he had to admit that the blacks were better off than Sicilians. Sicilians would sell their kids to sulfur miners around Etna and very few of them would survive to adulthood.
>>534302750I hope your wearing a radiation suit, I recommend it.
Based. Corsica people are utter retards btw>muh we stronk muh we terrorismjust join Italy you dumb fucks
>>534303742> one sentence, zero elaboration of made statementsI thought only Nordcucks were naive enough to take everything they hear as an unrefutable truth - truly a Tuskegee Negro IQ take.
>>534297027wrong, serbia and croatia are the best at waterpolo slavs are much better in the water than italian manlets lol
slavs with much less time by warm waters have already totally eclipsed a people who have been in the same place for thousands upon thousands of years LOL
>>534297195Spain.
>>534300200Having a navy is not the same as having a naval tradition. Russia has a navy and has always sucked at sea because they are spiritually a landlocked country. But the Habsburgs are on another level, both Austria and Hungary, the two political and military centres of the monarchy which would have produced most of the officers, are fully landlocked. For a country with a 7,600 km coastline and numerical superiority to lose to madman who thought ramming was still a good idea in the 1860s is just downright embarrassing.
