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How true is this? No wonder men in western countries are at record high rates of being single and fertility rates are at record low. Its fucking impossible to find a woman who is single. What do we do to solve this?
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Be demotivated... Give up, please!
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>>534306324
not my problem, incel
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>>534306324
>Looks matter more than personality.
The kids today are fucking retarded.
Looks fade, but being a stupid bitch is a lifetime event.
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>>534306324
It is difficult to overstate just how much psychological damage occurs in the young mind in never experiencing love when it was supposed to. It creates invisible but ever present and outwardly manifesting psychological wounds that may heal over time, but never disappear. It is a lifelong crippling of the mind, affecting things like confidence, self-esteem, healthy thought processes, and inability to cope with the difficulties in life in a healthy way. It breeds attitudes of perpetual envy and anger and depression. Especially when said individuals are constantly bombarded by images and media of people having lived their best life while they missed out and can never experience, ever. Because time is only linearly forward.

A means to try and "heal the mind" which has already happened for many who have resigned themselves to apathy and quiet resentment, but it doesn't remove the scar. The scar is always there. Always present. And it will always serve as a reminder, and always influence future thoughts and decisions and actions.
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>>534306619
You have to keep trying and not give up.
God damn kids are lazy and weak.
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>>534306324
lol third world everywhere
I remember when it was normal, and I am not even that old
we had psyops like OP's dirt, but we laughed about TV and school, we knew they spew propaganda to weaken us
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>>534306324
I've gotten to the point where I physically cringe hearing women speak
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>>534306758
>just keep working for nothing in return goyim
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Incel thread. Pay a prostitute. Get drunk and try to pull a fatty. Go to Thailand. There are guaranteed methods, you have no excuse
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>>534306619
that doesn't read like a scientific study mate
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>>534306947
>spend thousands on a trip to another country goy its that simple
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>>534306947
What if I want a wife and dont want to pay for a wet hole to fuck when I can just jerk off
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>>534306619
personal appearance and grooming are a waste of time
the rest is a matter of personal choice, not if a slag kissed you when you were young
go eat some keffir and fix your microbiota instead of believing in nonsense you read online
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>>534306758
>Keep running on the hammster wheel for no reward goy!
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>>534306324
>How true is this?
False, cute females are more likely to have partners but the reality is that we have a loneliness epidemic that affects both genders, any kind of deviation from the abject reality is either cope or demoralization thread, there is a female equivalent to /pol/ on another site and its full of lonely females.
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>>534306619
when did this psyop begin?
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/It%20is%20difficult%20to%20overstate%20just%20how%20much%20psychological%20damage/
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Not completely true at all. There is no scarcity of women. As a man there is absolutely zero pressure for you to pair off when you're in school or third level, or those early years of work.

Some guys will just naturally be extroverted, maybe it's genetic or they grow up in a household that is incredibly social, maybe both. They carry that extroversion, wanting to go out, into their teens and later years. And yeah, because they socialise more, they have more opportunities. They also get better at having social skills, which are all things that will, help them get a girlfriend.

But there are plenty of people who peak in highschool. Others envy them because they got laid or it seems like they got the perfect partner that should be the perfect spouse and all of that. But it doesn't really mean shit, the real test is once you get married and have children. How do you deal when her looks fade, when you have to juggle the children, your job(s), trying to keep the marriage good. That's a test that's not difficult but it's one that lasts for a very long time, and to be considered good at it, you should have at least a stable household (income, happy spouse and children), until the children are grown up. Very rare for this to go smoothly with zero bumps in the road.

So if you're the "late bloomer" type, if you're still a virgin in your early 20s, it's not necessarily over for you. You can have a bad year or several. What matters is how you recover. You focus on things like getting wiser, getting skills that are in demand, getting your income higher, and working on your social skills. Eventually, if you grind at it, and interact with enough women, you will find someone that's both okay looking, tolerable and pretty compatible. In fact, even if she's not, you can slowly train her over years and mold her into a better girlfriend and wife.

You won't have any success if you believe some demoralising screencaps on 4chan. Crabs in a bucket mindset. Focus on yourself first.
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>>534307166
Most stupid post I have seen ever. Most women can easily fuck pretty much any man they want its only when the male super model 6 foot 6 pack 6 figure salary chads dont give them attention that they start getting ""lonely"" meanwhile they have dozens of other lonely dudes in their dms trying to date them. Women literally can only choose to be lonely.
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>>534307358
>Women literally can only choose to be lonely.
women also dont want to be whores, despite what you're brainwashed to believe. Yes she can get laid at any time, but the average woman also doesnt want to be a whore.
Same way you can get laid at any time with a dude but you dont want to because you dont want to be gay. You literally choose to be lonely instead of just having sex with a gay man
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Hope I'll live long enough to watch this shithole planet be illuminated by the nuclear warheads exploding in the sky.
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>>534307358
Daily reminder that females in dating apps are a minority, the "cock carousel" theory is just a wrong extrapolation of promiscuous people on dating apps to the rest of the female population that are not on dating apps.
Also most females quit dating apps after some days due to constant harrasment.

While its true what you said about females having an easier time finding a relationship the reality is that the loneliness epidemic is something that affects both genders and it is part of something bigger that is the break up and atomization of society.
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This thread is fucking gay, kill yourselves niggers
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>>534306324
Someone who is like 19 years old wrote this. Lol
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>>534306947
>get a whore
>get a whore (in all aspects besides self identification)

neither of these count for a truecel
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>>534307786
>While its true what you said about females having an easier time finding a relationship the reality is that the loneliness epidemic is something that affects both genders and it is part of something bigger that is the break up and atomization of society.
This literally has no basis in reality other than schizo self reported polls about women being 'lonely' or 'not dating'(still having sex)
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>>534306324
we really live in a shithole dont we
every single person should have a soul mate just for them.
oh wait they do lmao
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>>534306324
>Make every aspect of life a gate kept competition
>Why are you not participating?
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>>534306324
GO BACK
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>>534306324
>men are alone because women aren't single
peak seething incel logic
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>>534306324
I'm never getting married and (((they))) can't make me. Imagine wanting to be constantly nagged 24/7 without a moment of peace, I can take care of myself just fine. Your instincts will compel you to do something stupid but always remember that women can now 'revoke' consent and ruin your life. Don't forget that a woman nowadays has every right to wake up one day and decide that she doesn't love you anymore on a whim. Suddenly you're hit with divorce, losing half your shit, paying child support if you have kids, and god forbid alimony payments. On top of all of this, there are many STDs (HIV, HPV, HCMV, Hepatitis, Herpes, Trichomoniasis, Ureaplasma, etc) going around, and I don't trust women to not lie about their past sexual history. Keep in mind that falling marriage rates will bankrupt many Jewish divorce firms.
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>>534309607
>men are alone because women aren't single
Yes women are all already taken by chad or will only date chad
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You either marry a <20yo virgin and procreate or you die without passing on your genetic material.
I'm willing to die on this hill and let the entire white race die out too should it come to it.
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>>534306324
Some of you guys need to look in the mirror and ask if you actually offer anything. Do you have a good job? Are you in good shape? Do you dress well? Are you groomed well? Do you have a fun social circle?

If you can’t say yes to 4/5 stop whining about why women aren’t jumping onto your cock and focus on living a life somebody else would actually want to be part of.
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Dude it's all pointless, hating on jews, lifting, working, self improving, going out with friends, getting women, everything. You will never make it and you will never live the life you thought you would live.
The younger generations are realizing early how fucked they are compared to the older gens.
Things weren't like this ten years ago, but they are now and they will only get worse.

Everyone under 30 that wasn't born with a silver spoon has completely given up on life.

Housing is so comically out of reach now I think the normalfag masses have finally just stopped caring. Everyone is living day to day, drinking and doing drugs, driving like they have a death wish etc. you see it everywhere now.

Where the fuck do we even go from here?
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Have sex with trans, the invisible hand of market again provides the answer
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>>534309869
My genetic material is garbage so I'd be a fool to pass it on
>>534309999
Unfortunately I can't say yes to even one of your criterion, but I've seen so many men who would score 4/5 or even 5/5 get absolutely ruined by these modern women. My point is that men need to shift their focus goals away from women.
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>>534306465
Noooo keep slaving away goy don't give up you might get a blown out aged roastie in your 40s.
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>>534306324
One of the most attractive women I ever knew was an awkward autist at my work who dated men who were 20+ years older than her. I can only hope to find someone like her when I'm older. For now it's just chubbies, uggos, and Asian girls.
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>>534307320
>Eventually, if you grind at it, and interact with enough women
Just keep working goy! You totally be rewarded eventually (no not soon keep working).
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It's true. Just go to south east Asia and enter a mall. Endless Asian girls that are all attractive and will worship a white cock until the end of time. That's what I did.
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>>534307496
So? If they settled for their looksmatch they could easily get a guy that wants a steady relationship. They are choosing to hold out for a guy out of their league
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>>534309999
Kek do women have to have all of those things? Fuck off hole.
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>>534306324
>not bride kidnapping
kek. ngmi
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>>534306324
Not true, but what is true is that those who fall behind in life achievements have an increasingly worse time dating, this is why they always dream of the young love bs

What they dont realize that status back then mattered too and being the cool guy in school was equal to having full hair, decent height and a mercedes in their 30s
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>>534310023
>Things weren't like this 10 years ago
Are you retarded? Things were absolute fucked in 2016 and had been for some time already .
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>>534306324
Why does OOP want to date a soft little bitch? That’s how you get spineless fuckup kids.
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>>534310704
>Asian
>Attractive
Kek
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>>534310385
You probably shouldn’t even be thinking about women in that case. Some of those things take time/money but there really is no reason not to be exercising. Some people fixate on women, partly because of biology but it is also easier than actually dealing with your own problems. If your life sucks a gf is not going to make you happy in the end anyway, it will just temporarily distract you.
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>>534307358
This. Women have more leverage in the dating market as long as sex is always available to them. A lot of men will not even experience a fraction of the intimacy of what most women experience.

So sure, both genders are technically "lonely" and aren't able to get into relationships but it's like one side gets thirsty from time to time while the other is starving.
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>>534310808
It’s unfair, but on the other hand we don’t have to bleed every month or push a baby out of our dicks. Whining about fairness is for children anyway. Bottom line, absolutely nobody gives a fuck if you’re getting laid, not even your parents. Nobody is going to explain it to you, and nobody is going to help you do it, so either try or don’t try, but stop whining about fairness it obviously isn’t fair.
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>>534311062
>You probably shouldn’t even be thinking about women in that case.
I'm not, I've accepted long ago that there's a 99.9% probability that I'll perish alone. I just wish my family could understand that, they seem to think I'm some sort of Adonis and can't fathom the idea that I'll never get married or have kids.
>but there really is no reason not to be exercising
You're right, however I've tried maintaining a workout routine three times but I always lose motivation so I've given up at this point.
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>>534306324
NONE OF YOU SHOULD EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE

LITERAL GOYIM
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>>534311331
We could all do something about it tomorrow if enough of us got together and "whining" about it is a prerequisite. The only reason women can be completely delusional standards is that our labour funds their lifestyles and physical protection where they get to galavant and be passed around by a small selection of chads.
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>>534311501
>>534311331
And that's before they lifetime of kike feminist and misnadrist brainwashing they get to be promoscuise and hyper selective and avoid forming families. None of this shit is natural and nothing you do as an individual will change the systems that are in place. We need collective action.
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>>534307016
The truth is if you are past the age of 20 you are not going to get a virgin wife
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>>534306619
Stupid memeflag. I had teenage love and it was retarded. It cannot compare to the almost 20 years that I have been married to my wife. You are just a demoralization kike.
Anyone that listens to this kike is also retarded.
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>>534311377
>I’ve given up at this point.
There’s your entire problem. Giving up is attractive, part of what makes defeatism so alluring is that you don’t have to do anything. Just play video games all day. It’s easier to see things as futile bc if they weren’t you might have to do something uncomfortable. People lose discipline with the gym all the time, the right conclusion isn’t I should never try again, it’s I should work out today. But the former is more immediately satisfying.
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>there exist very few good looking women that are single with a good heart
womp womp, just fuck ugly pigs then, or stay single, men are fine alone unlike wahmen
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>>534311954
This. Keep slaving goy. Never realize that the rewards don't match your effort. That would be "defeatist". Be a man and keep eating shit from women and kikes.
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>>534311501
There is no army coming to lead a revolution because you can’t get laid. There is no we, there’s you. And like I said, nobody is coming to help you get laid. It’s funny to me that you’d rather fantasize about collective action solving the problem for you than idk, go to the gym, get a job, etc.
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>>534306324
Not really true, getting a woman is essentially the same as getting a dog, you don't get a trained dog, you get a puppy and train him yourself, same with women. Getting a dog from a shelter seems noble and some people do it, but you can't expect that dog to not be fucked up, same with women.
So yeah this isn't some 2% of women, women only become like that when someone groomed her and trust me you don't want that person to be her father.
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>>534312401
Kike spotted.It isn't a me problem, no one is getting laid. Fsmoes aren't being formed. The times that they do they almost always end in divorce rape. The statistics are there.

Your shaming tactics are weak you faggot effeminate kike subhuman. You're absolutely terrified of people recognizing systemic problems and proposing systemic solutions. You want everyone to think no it's their own fault, doubling down af their wage slave job and doing a race to the bottom of bodybuilding (which doesn't matter because of everyone gets fit women will still select the top 10%).
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>>534312137
What is the alternative? Play video games all day? Have no money and no means? Be out of shape? The system is absolutely unfair, but I don’t think doing nothing all day is the answer. At a minimum you’d have to be absolutely retarded to not maintain/develop your physical strength and athleticism.
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>>534312688
Maintaining health is one thing, excessive bodybuilding is another. Don't do nothing, but absolutely deprive the system of your efforts wherever possible. Do not waste resources on expensive clothing, dates or cars.
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>>534312538
>the guy telling me to exercise, dress well, have friends, and groom myself well is trying to Jew me out of supporting the incel revolution, the only true answer to my problems.
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>>534312538
>>534311501
>>534311331
All the breeders depend on the government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
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>>534313103
Making it individual problem is absolutely a deradicalization strategy. You can exercise for health, but dressing well is for faggots and costs money that you need to make by wageslaving. Having friends either comes naturally or your just faking it to fit in with social convention.
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>>534306324
We should start cloning white supermodel women, yesterday
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>>534313576
90% of men aren't reproducing.
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Jokes on every nigger on this planet I'm actually pretty intelligent and I will not be spreading my seed so have fun with your nigger kids wondering why planes are crashing down more and more in the near future.
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>>534313647
Yes so they can breed with jacked up niggers and chads who will pump and dump them
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yes it's true. Most normal people have a "ho" phase in high school and maybe early college and then settle down and find someone. Like half the people I went to medical school with had partners they met in college and many of them ended up getting married to those partners . People that are actually good catches aren't on the dating market for long. A lot of women that are on the dating market are such because they have a habit of ending relationships instead of working through issues.
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>>534313691
That's not true yet. Fertility all over the west is over 1, almost every woman is still breeding.
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>>534306619
Yeah i believe this. Most of my sadness and trauma I had in college was from being a loser incel with no bitches and it ended up hurting my studies because I couldn't concentrate even though I had lots of free time from being a loser incel
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>>534315153
Not with men under 40.
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>>534307320
>As a man there is absolutely zero pressure for you to pair off


LIES. You aren't going to find a woman in the workforce, at the gym, or "outside". College is the best time to find someone that actually likes you for you. There are very few decent women which is why guys fight over them.
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>>534307496
>the average woman also doesnt want to be a whore.

They don't want to fuck a million guys but they also don't want to be virgins either.
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>>534311954
Listen, I agree with what you're saying but personally I can't find a good reason to continue exercising. What am I doing it for?
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>>534315185
Most if not all white women will be bred in the future, they are importing millions of males every year into the west who are desperate for mid and ugly white women.
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>>534307786
Women don't need dating apps. They have social circles and most just use Instagram to date. That's why they post all those pictures and have their DMs open, they're hoping a gigachad DMs them
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>>534310850
The thing is that you can't make up for lost time now like you used to be able to. Before you got rich and it was acceptable to date younger women. Now zoomer women are psyoped into wanting to date a guy their own age and that guy that made it has to settle for an "age mate"
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>>534315649
You do it as general upkeep of your body and to stay healthy. You shouldn't do it to get women. The only way 90% of men will get a body attractive enough to get women wet is if they abuse steroids and dedicate themselves to fitness.
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>>534315170
This also describes me to a tee. I even tried to motivate myself by saying if I study hard enough I can get a good high paying job and girls would flock to me. Didn't work though. I've since accepted my lot in life and just pay for an escort from time to time.
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>>534306324
used to be true I guess maybe not so much now

i’m 37 and met my wife in a diner when we were both fresh out of highschool, she was extroverted too so that checks out

marriage is way easier if you kind of grew up together, not really any mysteries about their past or whatever the fuck
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>>534316225
Trust, I somehow ended up getting into professional school and even though I'm about to graduate said school and make a lot of money, it wasn't worth the isolation and loneliness I faced throughout my life. Like even if I'm going to be making 200k+ now, I've been blackpilled on betabux and realize whatever woman I find won't actually like me for me.
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>>534316044
There are non-Western women, barely any care
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>>534306324
>Its fucking impossible to find a woman who is single
its called structural hyperhoeflation and its a permanent feature of the lives of all living men. only the children born 20 years after divorce is outlawed will have a normal environment where women are eager to marry
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>>534316126
I already told you before that I'm not dedicating any of my efforts to getting women. The only downside of not exercising is dying earlier than most people, which is fine since I'm not/will not be responsible for anyone.
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FPBP
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>>534316498
True, but the thing I worry about is even if I find those women would those women's families want me to marry their daughter?
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>>534307496
>women also dont want to be whores,
100,000,000% false. furthermore, the Bible extensively uses whores and adulteresses to compare apostates to, implying that it is normal to view whores and adulteresses as disgusting
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Allow adult men to date teenage girls. Problem solved. Give men a sense of a teenage do-over if their high school years sucked.

I’d kill for going on boba tea dates and making out at the skate park even as an adult if I could. Doing the same with an older woman… doesn’t hold the same magic.
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>>534316412
>whatever woman I find won't actually like me for me.
No woman ever will anyway, they never do for any man. Only men do that

>>534316617
Only woke people care; Middle Eastern liberals are less woke than Western conservatives
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>>534310385
>et absolutely ruined by these modern women
the entire purpose of the whores live is to destroy you and then say she broke up with you because you were a broke loser
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>>534316668
>Allow adult men to date teenage girls
the problem isnt that that isnt allowed. it is allowed. the problem is that divorce is also allowed
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>>534316849
damn this is a classic
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>>534316697
Not true. Younger girls don’t give a flying fuck about your wealth. They care about how hot you are. I came from an upper-middle household and it meant nothing to girls in my teenage years. It just meant I had a nice roof to sleep under.

The only time material wealth mattered back then is if your parents bought you a car right away, but nothing else meant much.
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>>534317331
This exists only in the West, nowhere else because dating in the West is fucking around till they hit the wall
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>>534317331
Same here bro.
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>>534316849
>It is allowed
No it is not. I would be arrested and thrown into a sex offender registry for dating a girl under 18. I would be tackled by dads, simps, mall cops, and anyone else for even trying to get a girl’s number at the mall. Once the four-year window called high school is closed, it’s locked behind you. If you missed out, you’re told to basically deal with it and live with scraps.
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>>534316668
I love older women but they are sadly only for sex. I tried to date a lady in her 40s who was an amazing person and gave me everything i wanted. In the end all i could think about was how happy she was on her marriage day with her exhusband and her 8 year bf after that. Older women have done everything with everyone else trying to train them shows that...its about novel experiences together thats what builds love and a relationship. She couldnt actually love me. Been single for a year now, zero interest in sex or dating unless its with a virgin. Its to gross and sad otherwise, all the time money and energy lost. All into a chick that just had another cock in her mouth a week before meeting
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>>534317331
Well to be fair it probably didn't matter because the girls around you would've likely also been upper middle class. It would've mattered if you were around girls in a lower socioeconomic class though
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>>534316636
God even had a prophet marry a whore and the whore couldn't stay faithful, but modern churches ignore the old testament for this reason. I'm actually really upset that Islam gets to be red/blackpilled about women but Christianity doesn't even though Christianity is super based on women.
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>>534317613
Young women in the West are incentivized to live it up until they are no longer young. Then they seek for stable betas for which they develop rigid criteria to go by. Dating in the West is very cucked for men. The age of marriage is right shortly after the wall. It is literally a scam of Western women. The same men would abroad be very desired since women from elsewhere are not raised to operate like this. Doesnt make them better genetically, just culturally. Western women effectively select for weak cucks
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>>534316668
They don't even want guys in their mid 20s to date a woman that's 19 anon. But yeah most guys get sad because the "first loves" they see in anime are forever locked away from them.
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>>534317811
Islam also allows men to marry much younger women, nobody cares. How is the West supposed to compete with that lol. In some countries they needed laws to not marry women more than 20+ something years younger because it started to affect the demographic pyramid. I think it was Egypt. Meanwhile mutts cry about 5 year age gaps
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>>534317331
This guy gets it. It's like Elliot Rodgers came from a rich family and he was an incel. Money helps, but the guys with money that get girls would still get women even if they were middle class but maybe just not as many. Giving an unattractive guy money won't make likable to women
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>>534306324
>if you can't marry a supermodel then just don't bother spending any time around girls at all
Gee, what great advice Mr. Demotivational-Glowfag. I'll get right on that.
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>>534317848
Yeah but the thing is in other places money is more rare so most men are broke. Here even "poor" people have cars and electricity and can go on vacation.
>>534317613
Even those women don't care that much. Maybe if you buy them lots of gifts or you're super rich but they'd still rather give their pussies up to a chad.
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>>534317939
Well that's the real reason Islam will take over the West soon. It can actually promise men something they want which is young virgin women.
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>>534318199
Idk, I am dating a woman from Iran she wasnt a virgin but is indeed much younger than me. It never was an issue either.
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>>534318199
>Even those women don't care that much. Maybe if you buy them lots of gifts or you're super rich but they'd still rather give their pussies up to a chad.
This will also never change because the West is focused on fun and women want to get serious only when they are not attractive anymore. It is a rotten trade and no self-respecting man should accept it. I would never date a Western woman again because with non-Western women I can date younger women pretty much till I cannot get it up anymore if I intend to do so.
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>>534318369
>she wasnt a virgin
That makes sense though because the ones that actually care about that stuff would never date someone outside their culture but see at least she is willing to date you. I did have a friend who had a sister that was super against age gaps though she was 23 and considered a guy that was 28 and older too old for her.
>>534318458
And even then there are medications for that and you can always go on testosterone replacement as you age and get the libido of a teenager again. It's a shit trade but it's the only trade most men can make.
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>>534306619
Image is unrealistic I don't even listen to music anymore.
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>>534306324
We continue to make the same fucking thread every single day. Sometimes multiple times a day. Sometimes even the same hour.
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>>534318530
> That makes sense though because the ones that actually care about that stuff would never date someone outside their culture
No woman truly does, they tell you what they want to hear and post-hoc rationalize their actions. Conservative women like this Sarah Stock would cheat her hubby with a Muslim if she felt like this and many Muslim women who act trad would cheat on their bf / hubby with a Western chad if they saw the opportunity to get away with it. It is simply how humans are and cultures that want to survive need to suppress that. If you fail at that you simply will die as a people as only cucks will continue to marry are awful prices while chads pump and dump and chadlites are pressured into xenophilia + exogamy into cultures that benefit them more
>she was 23 and considered a guy that was 28 and older too old for her
Who cares there are a bazillion other women out there.
> And even then there are medications for that and you can always go on testosterone replacement as you age and get the libido of a teenager again. It's a shit trade but it's the only trade most men can make.
I dont see it as a downgrade, Austrian women arent really pretty.
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>>534317902
>anime
I never got this trope. The girls I liked are ones I saw in person. Real crushes. The same time when hormones were raging and told me what kind of girls made my dick hard. The same ones nature told me I had great taste in.

>>534317991
Money also meant little at that age. Like I said, it just meant I had a nice bed to sleep in when I got home and a full fridge. I never got the spoiled life like a Ford Mustang at 15, fancy pool parties with teen girls, or even money for plastic surgery to help me be liked by my peers.

I didn’t get a car until 19. It was a cheap 1998 car. I didn’t get to go to prom. I didn’t get laid until 21. I didn’t get the teenage dream with sneaking out to a movie, making out in a fitting room at Spencer’s, or looking at the moon with a girl at 1am at the park. I had boomer parents telling me to study, that people will act more mature after high school, and that I should just focus on a career which would attract a career woman.

Don’t get me started on how a mother always thought their son was handsome and had nothing wrong. I was fat during my teenage years and my mother and father didn’t think that was wrong and that it was just a cute little phase.

>“He’s just a growing boy.”
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>>534318530
>though she was 23 and considered a guy that was 28 and older too old for her.
Also never fall for this shit, they almost all say that sometimes while dating older men even. I am not saying it is possible for every guy but it is more a value question than a "I am not attracted to older men" question. If he would be chad she would be. She just doesnt like being seen as such because it conflicts with their self-image.
> I am not a hoe
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Another reason they dont like it is because it confronts them with the fact that their options decline with age while chads can date women her age well into middle age, they find it to be "unfair" so they just talk it away. The reality is that if men realized that no woman will sincerely love them the way men do women the dating landscape would change overnight. Women basically force men into an underbidding race which incel men happily engage in. The result are these weird guys in their 30s who act uppity because they had a child with a post-wall woman. Magically met her right when she hit the wall, what a coincidence.
> Women arent the enemy bro, just man up bro, the fact that I was incel in my 20s was because I lacked social skills bro, suddenly at 35 my 35 aged gf found me attractive bro, like bro I never paid for sex bro
If these guys ever lose their jobs or the wife gets a better one that relationship is done by supper
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>>534318927
Orlando Bloom was 30 when he first played the role of Legolas in Lord of the Rings. Guess the ages of the women and girls who swooned.
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>>534319221
Probably around 20, he probably is able to still date 20 somethings today. He could even get a sub 25yo still but I doubt he will do it, the pushback for his career would be too strong to make it worth it
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> If these guys ever lose their jobs or the wife gets a better one that relationship is done by supper
Kind of proves itself by the increase in divorces. As women started to make more money the started to divorce more. So if you at 35 marry a guy you dont respect simply because you see it as a last anchor to have a child then well, yeah you're probably quite likely to divorce that guy a decade later if his career slumps or yours improves
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>>534306324
i think you know deep down you aren't a good enough person to be a father, it also requires shelving your narcissistic media habits which most people wont do. Basically we have a nation of people that think they are temporarily embarassed influencer millionaires. You don't deserve a mate in your current state and you wont do anything to change that state so here we are. Its well known that the anti-woman thing was an Epstein group psyop so everytime you parrot that shit a jew rubs his hands together and imports another nigger family.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS4J6Pm2bNI
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>>534319784
>the anti-woman thing was an Epstein group psyop
COPE
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>>534318752
What is more important? This is affects everyone and it's like why do I care about the Straight of Whoremuz if whores don't want me?
>>534318758
Oh yeah most don't but some have strict parents and don't want to be cut out of the will or disowned. She may just take a Chad and go with him but her family safe guards her. Especially true with the ones that are adult virgins.
>>534318792
Lol you might be me. Most of us turned to anime for romantic needs because they weren't being met in the real world. At least you got a car, I didn't get one until I was 24 and it was a shit car, didn't get my first gf until 28, and yeah I missed out on all the "fun" stuff about being a teenager.
>>534318927
If he doesn't "look his age" maybe, or if she doesn't know his age maybe, but once she hears the number and talks to her friends about it they may tell her it's inappropriate lol.
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>>534319272
Younger. Even girls I went to middle school with swooned for him.

What people also need to understand is that there’s a difference between handsome and hot. Handsome is something your wife should call you on your wedding day, or what a mother calls their son. It’s a more matured and distinguished look. But that doesn’t equate to attractive. It just means decent and taken care of.

Meanwhile, being called hot is what has the real impact. Hot equals sexual characteristics that invoke primal urges. It’s what also shows good health and virility.
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>>534306465
I'm so demotivated, I already gave up but I'll give up even more now.
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>>534320165
Women just dont find most men attractive mates, if they find an older guy attractive they wouldnt mind. It is just cope. If you think that women arent into Orlando Bloom you're insane. They are and its not because of money alone, he simply is better than most guys. Hence suddenly they can compromise. The same woman would be icky about 5 years for a man she respects less. Age gaps are frowned upon in the US because most women just dont respect men in general but also not the long term mate they intend to get with long term. It is always settling.
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demography is the only thing that matters

>>534320023
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>>534320313
Dating non-Western women is like shooting fish in a barrel
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>>534320413
Western demographics cannot be saved
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>>534320413
*only in retarded democracies in which you let the scum of the earth have a say in how your country is run
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>>534319433
A lot of women now are just having kids without the marriage now. Blacks have a 70% out of wedlock rate, and other groups are copying that.
>>534320261
Handsome is who they ideally want to settle for. Hot is who they want to get creampied by when they're ovulating.
>>534320365
I mean I don't blame them, most of us are ugly. That's why looksmaxing is so big now. Before women had to settle for ugly rich guys but now you pretty much need everything including looks.
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>>534306324
It is all true... however it takes a big fucking domotivated loser to not take the appropriate lessons:

1) Girls are taken young, of course. But it's not the highschool kids and college Chads taking them.
The lesson here is invest on young girls.

2) Sure, the girls with no social circle don't get the girls.
The lesson here is get a social circle.

After being completely demotivated for almost a decade I got a dog recently and I found out that even in my shitty immigrant filled corner of the world I found a few nice and extremely good looking girls (HB8s and above, including a rare HB10) living near me that I had never noticed before.
Simply because I walk the dog now, and notice the people I didn't notice before, people who are discrete, don't dress to call attention and are not out and about and compliment me on account of my dog.

Don't despair, fucktards.
But improve. If you're not improving you're sort of committing the sin of despair or negligence or other shit like that.

SIG has always truly been the most important of all generals here.
Too bad too many faggots like to pretend it was a thread for gymn fags to mog you.
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>>534320542
Man women have the same looks distribution as men do. Most Western women are in fact not attractive.



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