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How true is this? No wonder men in western countries are at record high rates of being single and fertility rates are at record low. Its fucking impossible to find a woman who is single. What do we do to solve this?
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Be demotivated... Give up, please!
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>>534306324
not my problem, incel
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>>534306324
>Looks matter more than personality.
The kids today are fucking retarded.
Looks fade, but being a stupid bitch is a lifetime event.
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>>534306324
It is difficult to overstate just how much psychological damage occurs in the young mind in never experiencing love when it was supposed to. It creates invisible but ever present and outwardly manifesting psychological wounds that may heal over time, but never disappear. It is a lifelong crippling of the mind, affecting things like confidence, self-esteem, healthy thought processes, and inability to cope with the difficulties in life in a healthy way. It breeds attitudes of perpetual envy and anger and depression. Especially when said individuals are constantly bombarded by images and media of people having lived their best life while they missed out and can never experience, ever. Because time is only linearly forward.

A means to try and "heal the mind" which has already happened for many who have resigned themselves to apathy and quiet resentment, but it doesn't remove the scar. The scar is always there. Always present. And it will always serve as a reminder, and always influence future thoughts and decisions and actions.
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>>534306619
You have to keep trying and not give up.
God damn kids are lazy and weak.
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>>534306324
lol third world everywhere
I remember when it was normal, and I am not even that old
we had psyops like OP's dirt, but we laughed about TV and school, we knew they spew propaganda to weaken us
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>>534306324
I've gotten to the point where I physically cringe hearing women speak
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>>534306758
>just keep working for nothing in return goyim
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Incel thread. Pay a prostitute. Get drunk and try to pull a fatty. Go to Thailand. There are guaranteed methods, you have no excuse
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>>534306619
that doesn't read like a scientific study mate
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>>534306947
>spend thousands on a trip to another country goy its that simple
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>>534306947
What if I want a wife and dont want to pay for a wet hole to fuck when I can just jerk off
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>>534306619
personal appearance and grooming are a waste of time
the rest is a matter of personal choice, not if a slag kissed you when you were young
go eat some keffir and fix your microbiota instead of believing in nonsense you read online
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>>534306758
>Keep running on the hammster wheel for no reward goy!
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>>534306324
>How true is this?
False, cute females are more likely to have partners but the reality is that we have a loneliness epidemic that affects both genders, any kind of deviation from the abject reality is either cope or demoralization thread, there is a female equivalent to /pol/ on another site and its full of lonely females.
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>>534306619
when did this psyop begin?
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/It%20is%20difficult%20to%20overstate%20just%20how%20much%20psychological%20damage/
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Not completely true at all. There is no scarcity of women. As a man there is absolutely zero pressure for you to pair off when you're in school or third level, or those early years of work.

Some guys will just naturally be extroverted, maybe it's genetic or they grow up in a household that is incredibly social, maybe both. They carry that extroversion, wanting to go out, into their teens and later years. And yeah, because they socialise more, they have more opportunities. They also get better at having social skills, which are all things that will, help them get a girlfriend.

But there are plenty of people who peak in highschool. Others envy them because they got laid or it seems like they got the perfect partner that should be the perfect spouse and all of that. But it doesn't really mean shit, the real test is once you get married and have children. How do you deal when her looks fade, when you have to juggle the children, your job(s), trying to keep the marriage good. That's a test that's not difficult but it's one that lasts for a very long time, and to be considered good at it, you should have at least a stable household (income, happy spouse and children), until the children are grown up. Very rare for this to go smoothly with zero bumps in the road.

So if you're the "late bloomer" type, if you're still a virgin in your early 20s, it's not necessarily over for you. You can have a bad year or several. What matters is how you recover. You focus on things like getting wiser, getting skills that are in demand, getting your income higher, and working on your social skills. Eventually, if you grind at it, and interact with enough women, you will find someone that's both okay looking, tolerable and pretty compatible. In fact, even if she's not, you can slowly train her over years and mold her into a better girlfriend and wife.

You won't have any success if you believe some demoralising screencaps on 4chan. Crabs in a bucket mindset. Focus on yourself first.
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>>534307166
Most stupid post I have seen ever. Most women can easily fuck pretty much any man they want its only when the male super model 6 foot 6 pack 6 figure salary chads dont give them attention that they start getting ""lonely"" meanwhile they have dozens of other lonely dudes in their dms trying to date them. Women literally can only choose to be lonely.
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>>534307358
>Women literally can only choose to be lonely.
women also dont want to be whores, despite what you're brainwashed to believe. Yes she can get laid at any time, but the average woman also doesnt want to be a whore.
Same way you can get laid at any time with a dude but you dont want to because you dont want to be gay. You literally choose to be lonely instead of just having sex with a gay man
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Hope I'll live long enough to watch this shithole planet be illuminated by the nuclear warheads exploding in the sky.
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>>534307358
Daily reminder that females in dating apps are a minority, the "cock carousel" theory is just a wrong extrapolation of promiscuous people on dating apps to the rest of the female population that are not on dating apps.
Also most females quit dating apps after some days due to constant harrasment.

While its true what you said about females having an easier time finding a relationship the reality is that the loneliness epidemic is something that affects both genders and it is part of something bigger that is the break up and atomization of society.
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This thread is fucking gay, kill yourselves niggers
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>>534306324
Someone who is like 19 years old wrote this. Lol
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>>534306947
>get a whore
>get a whore (in all aspects besides self identification)

neither of these count for a truecel
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>>534307786
>While its true what you said about females having an easier time finding a relationship the reality is that the loneliness epidemic is something that affects both genders and it is part of something bigger that is the break up and atomization of society.
This literally has no basis in reality other than schizo self reported polls about women being 'lonely' or 'not dating'(still having sex)
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>>534306324
we really live in a shithole dont we
every single person should have a soul mate just for them.
oh wait they do lmao
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>>534306324
>Make every aspect of life a gate kept competition
>Why are you not participating?
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>>534306324
GO BACK
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>>534306324
>men are alone because women aren't single
peak seething incel logic
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>>534306324
I'm never getting married and (((they))) can't make me. Imagine wanting to be constantly nagged 24/7 without a moment of peace, I can take care of myself just fine. Your instincts will compel you to do something stupid but always remember that women can now 'revoke' consent and ruin your life. Don't forget that a woman nowadays has every right to wake up one day and decide that she doesn't love you anymore on a whim. Suddenly you're hit with divorce, losing half your shit, paying child support if you have kids, and god forbid alimony payments. On top of all of this, there are many STDs (HIV, HPV, HCMV, Hepatitis, Herpes, Trichomoniasis, Ureaplasma, etc) going around, and I don't trust women to not lie about their past sexual history. Keep in mind that falling marriage rates will bankrupt many Jewish divorce firms.
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>>534309607
>men are alone because women aren't single
Yes women are all already taken by chad or will only date chad
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You either marry a <20yo virgin and procreate or you die without passing on your genetic material.
I'm willing to die on this hill and let the entire white race die out too should it come to it.
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>>534306324
Some of you guys need to look in the mirror and ask if you actually offer anything. Do you have a good job? Are you in good shape? Do you dress well? Are you groomed well? Do you have a fun social circle?

If you can’t say yes to 4/5 stop whining about why women aren’t jumping onto your cock and focus on living a life somebody else would actually want to be part of.
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Dude it's all pointless, hating on jews, lifting, working, self improving, going out with friends, getting women, everything. You will never make it and you will never live the life you thought you would live.
The younger generations are realizing early how fucked they are compared to the older gens.
Things weren't like this ten years ago, but they are now and they will only get worse.

Everyone under 30 that wasn't born with a silver spoon has completely given up on life.

Housing is so comically out of reach now I think the normalfag masses have finally just stopped caring. Everyone is living day to day, drinking and doing drugs, driving like they have a death wish etc. you see it everywhere now.

Where the fuck do we even go from here?
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Have sex with trans, the invisible hand of market again provides the answer
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>>534309869
My genetic material is garbage so I'd be a fool to pass it on
>>534309999
Unfortunately I can't say yes to even one of your criterion, but I've seen so many men who would score 4/5 or even 5/5 get absolutely ruined by these modern women. My point is that men need to shift their focus goals away from women.
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>>534306465
Noooo keep slaving away goy don't give up you might get a blown out aged roastie in your 40s.
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>>534306324
One of the most attractive women I ever knew was an awkward autist at my work who dated men who were 20+ years older than her. I can only hope to find someone like her when I'm older. For now it's just chubbies, uggos, and Asian girls.
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>>534307320
>Eventually, if you grind at it, and interact with enough women
Just keep working goy! You totally be rewarded eventually (no not soon keep working).
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It's true. Just go to south east Asia and enter a mall. Endless Asian girls that are all attractive and will worship a white cock until the end of time. That's what I did.
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>>534307496
So? If they settled for their looksmatch they could easily get a guy that wants a steady relationship. They are choosing to hold out for a guy out of their league
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>>534309999
Kek do women have to have all of those things? Fuck off hole.
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>>534306324
>not bride kidnapping
kek. ngmi
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>>534306324
Not true, but what is true is that those who fall behind in life achievements have an increasingly worse time dating, this is why they always dream of the young love bs

What they dont realize that status back then mattered too and being the cool guy in school was equal to having full hair, decent height and a mercedes in their 30s
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>>534310023
>Things weren't like this 10 years ago
Are you retarded? Things were absolute fucked in 2016 and had been for some time already .
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>>534306324
Why does OOP want to date a soft little bitch? That’s how you get spineless fuckup kids.
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>>534310704
>Asian
>Attractive
Kek
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>>534310385
You probably shouldn’t even be thinking about women in that case. Some of those things take time/money but there really is no reason not to be exercising. Some people fixate on women, partly because of biology but it is also easier than actually dealing with your own problems. If your life sucks a gf is not going to make you happy in the end anyway, it will just temporarily distract you.
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>>534307358
This. Women have more leverage in the dating market as long as sex is always available to them. A lot of men will not even experience a fraction of the intimacy of what most women experience.

So sure, both genders are technically "lonely" and aren't able to get into relationships but it's like one side gets thirsty from time to time while the other is starving.
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>>534310808
It’s unfair, but on the other hand we don’t have to bleed every month or push a baby out of our dicks. Whining about fairness is for children anyway. Bottom line, absolutely nobody gives a fuck if you’re getting laid, not even your parents. Nobody is going to explain it to you, and nobody is going to help you do it, so either try or don’t try, but stop whining about fairness it obviously isn’t fair.
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>>534311062
>You probably shouldn’t even be thinking about women in that case.
I'm not, I've accepted long ago that there's a 99.9% probability that I'll perish alone. I just wish my family could understand that, they seem to think I'm some sort of Adonis and can't fathom the idea that I'll never get married or have kids.
>but there really is no reason not to be exercising
You're right, however I've tried maintaining a workout routine three times but I always lose motivation so I've given up at this point.
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>>534306324
NONE OF YOU SHOULD EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE

LITERAL GOYIM
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>>534311331
We could all do something about it tomorrow if enough of us got together and "whining" about it is a prerequisite. The only reason women can be completely delusional standards is that our labour funds their lifestyles and physical protection where they get to galavant and be passed around by a small selection of chads.
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>>534311501
>>534311331
And that's before they lifetime of kike feminist and misnadrist brainwashing they get to be promoscuise and hyper selective and avoid forming families. None of this shit is natural and nothing you do as an individual will change the systems that are in place. We need collective action.
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>>534307016
The truth is if you are past the age of 20 you are not going to get a virgin wife
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>>534306619
Stupid memeflag. I had teenage love and it was retarded. It cannot compare to the almost 20 years that I have been married to my wife. You are just a demoralization kike.
Anyone that listens to this kike is also retarded.
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>>534311377
>I’ve given up at this point.
There’s your entire problem. Giving up is attractive, part of what makes defeatism so alluring is that you don’t have to do anything. Just play video games all day. It’s easier to see things as futile bc if they weren’t you might have to do something uncomfortable. People lose discipline with the gym all the time, the right conclusion isn’t I should never try again, it’s I should work out today. But the former is more immediately satisfying.
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>there exist very few good looking women that are single with a good heart
womp womp, just fuck ugly pigs then, or stay single, men are fine alone unlike wahmen
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>>534311954
This. Keep slaving goy. Never realize that the rewards don't match your effort. That would be "defeatist". Be a man and keep eating shit from women and kikes.
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>>534311501
There is no army coming to lead a revolution because you can’t get laid. There is no we, there’s you. And like I said, nobody is coming to help you get laid. It’s funny to me that you’d rather fantasize about collective action solving the problem for you than idk, go to the gym, get a job, etc.
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>>534306324
Not really true, getting a woman is essentially the same as getting a dog, you don't get a trained dog, you get a puppy and train him yourself, same with women. Getting a dog from a shelter seems noble and some people do it, but you can't expect that dog to not be fucked up, same with women.
So yeah this isn't some 2% of women, women only become like that when someone groomed her and trust me you don't want that person to be her father.
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>>534312401
Kike spotted.It isn't a me problem, no one is getting laid. Fsmoes aren't being formed. The times that they do they almost always end in divorce rape. The statistics are there.

Your shaming tactics are weak you faggot effeminate kike subhuman. You're absolutely terrified of people recognizing systemic problems and proposing systemic solutions. You want everyone to think no it's their own fault, doubling down af their wage slave job and doing a race to the bottom of bodybuilding (which doesn't matter because of everyone gets fit women will still select the top 10%).
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>>534312137
What is the alternative? Play video games all day? Have no money and no means? Be out of shape? The system is absolutely unfair, but I don’t think doing nothing all day is the answer. At a minimum you’d have to be absolutely retarded to not maintain/develop your physical strength and athleticism.
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>>534312688
Maintaining health is one thing, excessive bodybuilding is another. Don't do nothing, but absolutely deprive the system of your efforts wherever possible. Do not waste resources on expensive clothing, dates or cars.
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>>534312538
>the guy telling me to exercise, dress well, have friends, and groom myself well is trying to Jew me out of supporting the incel revolution, the only true answer to my problems.
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>>534312538
>>534311501
>>534311331
All the breeders depend on the government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
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>>534313103
Making it individual problem is absolutely a deradicalization strategy. You can exercise for health, but dressing well is for faggots and costs money that you need to make by wageslaving. Having friends either comes naturally or your just faking it to fit in with social convention.
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>>534306324
We should start cloning white supermodel women, yesterday
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>>534313576
90% of men aren't reproducing.
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Jokes on every nigger on this planet I'm actually pretty intelligent and I will not be spreading my seed so have fun with your nigger kids wondering why planes are crashing down more and more in the near future.
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>>534313647
Yes so they can breed with jacked up niggers and chads who will pump and dump them
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yes it's true. Most normal people have a "ho" phase in high school and maybe early college and then settle down and find someone. Like half the people I went to medical school with had partners they met in college and many of them ended up getting married to those partners . People that are actually good catches aren't on the dating market for long. A lot of women that are on the dating market are such because they have a habit of ending relationships instead of working through issues.
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>>534313691
That's not true yet. Fertility all over the west is over 1, almost every woman is still breeding.
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>>534306619
Yeah i believe this. Most of my sadness and trauma I had in college was from being a loser incel with no bitches and it ended up hurting my studies because I couldn't concentrate even though I had lots of free time from being a loser incel
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>>534315153
Not with men under 40.
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>>534307320
>As a man there is absolutely zero pressure for you to pair off


LIES. You aren't going to find a woman in the workforce, at the gym, or "outside". College is the best time to find someone that actually likes you for you. There are very few decent women which is why guys fight over them.
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>>534307496
>the average woman also doesnt want to be a whore.

They don't want to fuck a million guys but they also don't want to be virgins either.
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>>534311954
Listen, I agree with what you're saying but personally I can't find a good reason to continue exercising. What am I doing it for?
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>>534315185
Most if not all white women will be bred in the future, they are importing millions of males every year into the west who are desperate for mid and ugly white women.
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>>534307786
Women don't need dating apps. They have social circles and most just use Instagram to date. That's why they post all those pictures and have their DMs open, they're hoping a gigachad DMs them
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>>534310850
The thing is that you can't make up for lost time now like you used to be able to. Before you got rich and it was acceptable to date younger women. Now zoomer women are psyoped into wanting to date a guy their own age and that guy that made it has to settle for an "age mate"
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>>534315649
You do it as general upkeep of your body and to stay healthy. You shouldn't do it to get women. The only way 90% of men will get a body attractive enough to get women wet is if they abuse steroids and dedicate themselves to fitness.
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>>534315170
This also describes me to a tee. I even tried to motivate myself by saying if I study hard enough I can get a good high paying job and girls would flock to me. Didn't work though. I've since accepted my lot in life and just pay for an escort from time to time.
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>>534306324
used to be true I guess maybe not so much now

i’m 37 and met my wife in a diner when we were both fresh out of highschool, she was extroverted too so that checks out

marriage is way easier if you kind of grew up together, not really any mysteries about their past or whatever the fuck
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>>534316225
Trust, I somehow ended up getting into professional school and even though I'm about to graduate said school and make a lot of money, it wasn't worth the isolation and loneliness I faced throughout my life. Like even if I'm going to be making 200k+ now, I've been blackpilled on betabux and realize whatever woman I find won't actually like me for me.
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>>534316044
There are non-Western women, barely any care
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>>534306324
>Its fucking impossible to find a woman who is single
its called structural hyperhoeflation and its a permanent feature of the lives of all living men. only the children born 20 years after divorce is outlawed will have a normal environment where women are eager to marry
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>>534316126
I already told you before that I'm not dedicating any of my efforts to getting women. The only downside of not exercising is dying earlier than most people, which is fine since I'm not/will not be responsible for anyone.
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FPBP
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>>534316498
True, but the thing I worry about is even if I find those women would those women's families want me to marry their daughter?
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>>534307496
>women also dont want to be whores,
100,000,000% false. furthermore, the Bible extensively uses whores and adulteresses to compare apostates to, implying that it is normal to view whores and adulteresses as disgusting
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Allow adult men to date teenage girls. Problem solved. Give men a sense of a teenage do-over if their high school years sucked.

I’d kill for going on boba tea dates and making out at the skate park even as an adult if I could. Doing the same with an older woman… doesn’t hold the same magic.
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>>534316412
>whatever woman I find won't actually like me for me.
No woman ever will anyway, they never do for any man. Only men do that

>>534316617
Only woke people care; Middle Eastern liberals are less woke than Western conservatives
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>>534310385
>et absolutely ruined by these modern women
the entire purpose of the whores live is to destroy you and then say she broke up with you because you were a broke loser
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>>534316668
>Allow adult men to date teenage girls
the problem isnt that that isnt allowed. it is allowed. the problem is that divorce is also allowed
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>>534316849
damn this is a classic
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>>534316697
Not true. Younger girls don’t give a flying fuck about your wealth. They care about how hot you are. I came from an upper-middle household and it meant nothing to girls in my teenage years. It just meant I had a nice roof to sleep under.

The only time material wealth mattered back then is if your parents bought you a car right away, but nothing else meant much.
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>>534317331
This exists only in the West, nowhere else because dating in the West is fucking around till they hit the wall
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>>534317331
Same here bro.
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>>534316849
>It is allowed
No it is not. I would be arrested and thrown into a sex offender registry for dating a girl under 18. I would be tackled by dads, simps, mall cops, and anyone else for even trying to get a girl’s number at the mall. Once the four-year window called high school is closed, it’s locked behind you. If you missed out, you’re told to basically deal with it and live with scraps.
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>>534316668
I love older women but they are sadly only for sex. I tried to date a lady in her 40s who was an amazing person and gave me everything i wanted. In the end all i could think about was how happy she was on her marriage day with her exhusband and her 8 year bf after that. Older women have done everything with everyone else trying to train them shows that...its about novel experiences together thats what builds love and a relationship. She couldnt actually love me. Been single for a year now, zero interest in sex or dating unless its with a virgin. Its to gross and sad otherwise, all the time money and energy lost. All into a chick that just had another cock in her mouth a week before meeting
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>>534317331
Well to be fair it probably didn't matter because the girls around you would've likely also been upper middle class. It would've mattered if you were around girls in a lower socioeconomic class though
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>>534316636
God even had a prophet marry a whore and the whore couldn't stay faithful, but modern churches ignore the old testament for this reason. I'm actually really upset that Islam gets to be red/blackpilled about women but Christianity doesn't even though Christianity is super based on women.
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>>534317613
Young women in the West are incentivized to live it up until they are no longer young. Then they seek for stable betas for which they develop rigid criteria to go by. Dating in the West is very cucked for men. The age of marriage is right shortly after the wall. It is literally a scam of Western women. The same men would abroad be very desired since women from elsewhere are not raised to operate like this. Doesnt make them better genetically, just culturally. Western women effectively select for weak cucks
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>>534316668
They don't even want guys in their mid 20s to date a woman that's 19 anon. But yeah most guys get sad because the "first loves" they see in anime are forever locked away from them.
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>>534317811
Islam also allows men to marry much younger women, nobody cares. How is the West supposed to compete with that lol. In some countries they needed laws to not marry women more than 20+ something years younger because it started to affect the demographic pyramid. I think it was Egypt. Meanwhile mutts cry about 5 year age gaps
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>>534317331
This guy gets it. It's like Elliot Rodgers came from a rich family and he was an incel. Money helps, but the guys with money that get girls would still get women even if they were middle class but maybe just not as many. Giving an unattractive guy money won't make likable to women
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>>534306324
>if you can't marry a supermodel then just don't bother spending any time around girls at all
Gee, what great advice Mr. Demotivational-Glowfag. I'll get right on that.
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>>534317848
Yeah but the thing is in other places money is more rare so most men are broke. Here even "poor" people have cars and electricity and can go on vacation.
>>534317613
Even those women don't care that much. Maybe if you buy them lots of gifts or you're super rich but they'd still rather give their pussies up to a chad.
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>>534317939
Well that's the real reason Islam will take over the West soon. It can actually promise men something they want which is young virgin women.
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>>534318199
Idk, I am dating a woman from Iran she wasnt a virgin but is indeed much younger than me. It never was an issue either.
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>>534318199
>Even those women don't care that much. Maybe if you buy them lots of gifts or you're super rich but they'd still rather give their pussies up to a chad.
This will also never change because the West is focused on fun and women want to get serious only when they are not attractive anymore. It is a rotten trade and no self-respecting man should accept it. I would never date a Western woman again because with non-Western women I can date younger women pretty much till I cannot get it up anymore if I intend to do so.
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>>534318369
>she wasnt a virgin
That makes sense though because the ones that actually care about that stuff would never date someone outside their culture but see at least she is willing to date you. I did have a friend who had a sister that was super against age gaps though she was 23 and considered a guy that was 28 and older too old for her.
>>534318458
And even then there are medications for that and you can always go on testosterone replacement as you age and get the libido of a teenager again. It's a shit trade but it's the only trade most men can make.
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>>534306619
Image is unrealistic I don't even listen to music anymore.
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>>534306324
We continue to make the same fucking thread every single day. Sometimes multiple times a day. Sometimes even the same hour.
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>>534318530
> That makes sense though because the ones that actually care about that stuff would never date someone outside their culture
No woman truly does, they tell you what they want to hear and post-hoc rationalize their actions. Conservative women like this Sarah Stock would cheat her hubby with a Muslim if she felt like this and many Muslim women who act trad would cheat on their bf / hubby with a Western chad if they saw the opportunity to get away with it. It is simply how humans are and cultures that want to survive need to suppress that. If you fail at that you simply will die as a people as only cucks will continue to marry are awful prices while chads pump and dump and chadlites are pressured into xenophilia + exogamy into cultures that benefit them more
>she was 23 and considered a guy that was 28 and older too old for her
Who cares there are a bazillion other women out there.
> And even then there are medications for that and you can always go on testosterone replacement as you age and get the libido of a teenager again. It's a shit trade but it's the only trade most men can make.
I dont see it as a downgrade, Austrian women arent really pretty.
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>>534317902
>anime
I never got this trope. The girls I liked are ones I saw in person. Real crushes. The same time when hormones were raging and told me what kind of girls made my dick hard. The same ones nature told me I had great taste in.

>>534317991
Money also meant little at that age. Like I said, it just meant I had a nice bed to sleep in when I got home and a full fridge. I never got the spoiled life like a Ford Mustang at 15, fancy pool parties with teen girls, or even money for plastic surgery to help me be liked by my peers.

I didn’t get a car until 19. It was a cheap 1998 car. I didn’t get to go to prom. I didn’t get laid until 21. I didn’t get the teenage dream with sneaking out to a movie, making out in a fitting room at Spencer’s, or looking at the moon with a girl at 1am at the park. I had boomer parents telling me to study, that people will act more mature after high school, and that I should just focus on a career which would attract a career woman.

Don’t get me started on how a mother always thought their son was handsome and had nothing wrong. I was fat during my teenage years and my mother and father didn’t think that was wrong and that it was just a cute little phase.

>“He’s just a growing boy.”
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>>534318530
>though she was 23 and considered a guy that was 28 and older too old for her.
Also never fall for this shit, they almost all say that sometimes while dating older men even. I am not saying it is possible for every guy but it is more a value question than a "I am not attracted to older men" question. If he would be chad she would be. She just doesnt like being seen as such because it conflicts with their self-image.
> I am not a hoe
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Another reason they dont like it is because it confronts them with the fact that their options decline with age while chads can date women her age well into middle age, they find it to be "unfair" so they just talk it away. The reality is that if men realized that no woman will sincerely love them the way men do women the dating landscape would change overnight. Women basically force men into an underbidding race which incel men happily engage in. The result are these weird guys in their 30s who act uppity because they had a child with a post-wall woman. Magically met her right when she hit the wall, what a coincidence.
> Women arent the enemy bro, just man up bro, the fact that I was incel in my 20s was because I lacked social skills bro, suddenly at 35 my 35 aged gf found me attractive bro, like bro I never paid for sex bro
If these guys ever lose their jobs or the wife gets a better one that relationship is done by supper
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>>534318927
Orlando Bloom was 30 when he first played the role of Legolas in Lord of the Rings. Guess the ages of the women and girls who swooned.
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>>534319221
Probably around 20, he probably is able to still date 20 somethings today. He could even get a sub 25yo still but I doubt he will do it, the pushback for his career would be too strong to make it worth it
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> If these guys ever lose their jobs or the wife gets a better one that relationship is done by supper
Kind of proves itself by the increase in divorces. As women started to make more money the started to divorce more. So if you at 35 marry a guy you dont respect simply because you see it as a last anchor to have a child then well, yeah you're probably quite likely to divorce that guy a decade later if his career slumps or yours improves
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>>534306324
i think you know deep down you aren't a good enough person to be a father, it also requires shelving your narcissistic media habits which most people wont do. Basically we have a nation of people that think they are temporarily embarassed influencer millionaires. You don't deserve a mate in your current state and you wont do anything to change that state so here we are. Its well known that the anti-woman thing was an Epstein group psyop so everytime you parrot that shit a jew rubs his hands together and imports another nigger family.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS4J6Pm2bNI
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>>534319784
>the anti-woman thing was an Epstein group psyop
COPE
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>>534318752
What is more important? This is affects everyone and it's like why do I care about the Straight of Whoremuz if whores don't want me?
>>534318758
Oh yeah most don't but some have strict parents and don't want to be cut out of the will or disowned. She may just take a Chad and go with him but her family safe guards her. Especially true with the ones that are adult virgins.
>>534318792
Lol you might be me. Most of us turned to anime for romantic needs because they weren't being met in the real world. At least you got a car, I didn't get one until I was 24 and it was a shit car, didn't get my first gf until 28, and yeah I missed out on all the "fun" stuff about being a teenager.
>>534318927
If he doesn't "look his age" maybe, or if she doesn't know his age maybe, but once she hears the number and talks to her friends about it they may tell her it's inappropriate lol.
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>>534319272
Younger. Even girls I went to middle school with swooned for him.

What people also need to understand is that there’s a difference between handsome and hot. Handsome is something your wife should call you on your wedding day, or what a mother calls their son. It’s a more matured and distinguished look. But that doesn’t equate to attractive. It just means decent and taken care of.

Meanwhile, being called hot is what has the real impact. Hot equals sexual characteristics that invoke primal urges. It’s what also shows good health and virility.
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>>534306465
I'm so demotivated, I already gave up but I'll give up even more now.
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>>534320165
Women just dont find most men attractive mates, if they find an older guy attractive they wouldnt mind. It is just cope. If you think that women arent into Orlando Bloom you're insane. They are and its not because of money alone, he simply is better than most guys. Hence suddenly they can compromise. The same woman would be icky about 5 years for a man she respects less. Age gaps are frowned upon in the US because most women just dont respect men in general but also not the long term mate they intend to get with long term. It is always settling.
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demography is the only thing that matters

>>534320023
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>>534320313
Dating non-Western women is like shooting fish in a barrel
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>>534320413
Western demographics cannot be saved
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>>534320413
*only in retarded democracies in which you let the scum of the earth have a say in how your country is run
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>>534319433
A lot of women now are just having kids without the marriage now. Blacks have a 70% out of wedlock rate, and other groups are copying that.
>>534320261
Handsome is who they ideally want to settle for. Hot is who they want to get creampied by when they're ovulating.
>>534320365
I mean I don't blame them, most of us are ugly. That's why looksmaxing is so big now. Before women had to settle for ugly rich guys but now you pretty much need everything including looks.
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>>534306324
It is all true... however it takes a big fucking domotivated loser to not take the appropriate lessons:

1) Girls are taken young, of course. But it's not the highschool kids and college Chads taking them.
The lesson here is invest on young girls.

2) Sure, the girls with no social circle don't get the girls.
The lesson here is get a social circle.

After being completely demotivated for almost a decade I got a dog recently and I found out that even in my shitty immigrant filled corner of the world I found a few nice and extremely good looking girls (HB8s and above, including a rare HB10) living near me that I had never noticed before.
Simply because I walk the dog now, and notice the people I didn't notice before, people who are discrete, don't dress to call attention and are not out and about and compliment me on account of my dog.

Don't despair, fucktards.
But improve. If you're not improving you're sort of committing the sin of despair or negligence or other shit like that.

SIG has always truly been the most important of all generals here.
Too bad too many faggots like to pretend it was a thread for gymn fags to mog you.
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>>534320542
Man women have the same looks distribution as men do. Most Western women are in fact not attractive.
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>>534316636
Women don't want to be whores.
Whores exist because of lack of education.
That is because the family of the whore did not orient her properly. Nor the media. Nor the society at large.
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I would actually go as far as to say that there are more women that are fugly than fugly men for the simple reason that there are a lot of women who are attracted to ugly men who are masculine, dangerous or tall. Meanwhile men are only into women larping as submissive, true love bs or looks. So technically men have more of what women want, women just have more of what men accept. This sort of creates a race to the bottom since men will accept worse and worse offers till they land in the gutter where we are now
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>>534320365
Age gaps are mostly frowned upon in the US by men, usually two types:

The first is a virtue-signalling type. It’s basically morally just in a social sense to beat up a man trying to date a 15 year old. These people just want praise and the legal green light to inflict violence. It’s like someone with an itchy trigger finger.

Then you have the biggest group. Teenage boys and young adults. Most of this is out of spite, hating on older men they’d love to punk on, and not wanting to see them happy with a younger partner. It’s a form of cock blocking and flexing for the sake of that alone. Any teenage boy or young adult saying “She’s too young for you” would happily steal the young girl you’re trying to get to know. They’d happily separate you from a girl you may already be dating and see it as a form of conquest.

Sure, old bitter women may complain, but most don’t. They were into age gaps when they were young too. Some may even kindly reminisce of it and give you a nod.
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>>534309999
None of those things are going to prevent you from the problems a woman will bring into your life. Being able to get one isn't the problem. It's how you handle it when you do get one. In most cases, your life is going to turn into a living hell. Only men that can turn their brain off or have the emotional vibrance of a stump will be able to deal with it long term. I've had plenty of girlfriends, and I've always refused to put up with their bullshit. That's why I'm single. The only way you're keeping a woman long term is to put up with them doing shit you don't like, and pretending that you're ok with it at the same time. Most of these guys get cucked.
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>What do we do to solve this?
We get rid of women's rights after we deal with the simps.

>>534306619
I hope for your own sake these posts are automated.

>>534306869
Insanely based. Keep up the good work.

>>534307320
>you can slowly train her over years and mold her into a better girlfriend and wife.
enjoy your divorce rape lmao
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>>534320733
False, wrong, gay, homosexual and delusional Brazilian speaking brown man from Andalusia.

Women literally want to live that life, to be desired and pursued, to make men kill each other for her wet cunt... its no coincidence that violence gets women off. Verbal violence, physical violence, emotional violence. Women are controlled completely by their pussies, sorry to break it to you like this and their pussy wants to be smashed violently by a tall, strong as fuck dude who knows what he wants and acts like he is prepared to kill everyone including her if he is displeased.
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>>534306324
You can just date single moms, you know
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>>534320733
Women want to be socially accepted first and foremost so if they are whores they must make this popular. This is also why if one woman gets divorced her friends are likely to follow. They do shit in the moment that is fun and situationally makes sense to them, then spend enormous time and effort to normalize the shit. Just look on reddit, bitches even ask there can something be normalized. It is insane but its how they work, they are herd animals.
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>>534320856
>Most of these guys get cucked.
Make that "every single one."
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>>534320434
It’s also like downgrading as well. Show me a “non western” girl who’s white and isn’t a Slavic town bike.

>>534320542
>Settle for
Settle with. You start hot and then you settle down as handsome. Boomers did this but never gave that advice. A whore just wants a man to go straight into the settling phase with no romance.
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>>534320848
These people exist in every developed country because they attempt to find groups that they deem to be save to attack to raise their own status. Beta men always attempt to raise their status with feminist women in order to be worthy of mating, for that they are willing to push their own father in front of a bus. Its not incels who I hate, its these performative cunts who are the worst. Even women hate them, they are selling their fellow men out for fake smile and an insincere thank you
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>>534321048
>It’s also like downgrading as well. Show me a “non western” girl who’s white and isn’t a Slavic town bike.
I hate to break it to you but Western women are the town bikes. Moreso than anyone else. Even Africa has less single moms than the US now.
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>>534320867
It’s a bot. OP’s screenshot and the fascist meme flag doomer post are the same bot. The same bot that posts the image of the football quarterback kissing a cheerleader.
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>>534320542
Looksmaxing is big because your men are of a generation of cowards. Not entirely of their fault though. And yet... cowards. Most men in America don't get dates and don't approach women. This makes women more prone to approach. Who do you think they will approach? The "good looking" guys.
Girls don't even want "good looking" guys nowhere near the same way we want "good looking" girls.

Looksmaxing triumphs in a gay society where men are approached because the dynamics of the sexes have been inverted.

This was true in early 2000s scandinavia. Scandi fags would go out (in Sweden and Denmark and I hear in Norway it was the same) and they would not approach girls and would wait for the girls to approach.
Southern and Eastern Euros were kings in that environment, because we were out to hunt Scandi girls and bringing them from their gay Scandi girl groups doing nothing (yeah, lots of whores but who would invest on whores?) and drinking thinking to approach only the few 5 or 10 good looking men that were already being approached.
We would bring a Scandi girl to our group, then we'd get the other Scandi girls from their group. Then we'd mingle.
The ugly (actually normal) Scandi guys who were never approached loved us for it... but they are a wierd culture so they only liked us in the bar / disco environment. Really strange.

My main point though is... girls don't want good looks. They want real men. Aproach.
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>>534320625
>Man women have the same looks distribution as men do

That's so fucking stupid and retarded that makes me REEEEEE!
Do you really believe what you wrote? Why? what would the phenomenons be that could explan that? Soulmates?
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>>534321218
>Aproach
>Yes... approach the 25 year old whore with 100's of bodies.
Do you ever realize you are both a whore and also retarded?
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>>534321264
There are as many ugly women as there are ugly men. The idea that women are innately more attractive is internalized self-hate. I see fugly women every day and usually to make matters worse thay also have bad personalities on top of it while ugly guys at least are humble most of the time.
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>>534317576
All the attractive women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to
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>>534321355
This shit is literally a psyop. Western women do not want to marry early. Especially not the good-looking ones. It is against all social signaling. You live in your own reality. Can't even blame them, it would be dumb of them to do so since realistically speaking at age 20 or so it is very likely a better guy in fact does come along.
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>>534320876
Good bait, made me answer.
I am not Brazilian nor from Andaluzia.
But being from Andaluzia is still better than being from fucking Argentina.

If your women want to "live the life" of the whore it is an indictment on the low statues of you and your family. You're so fucking low status that your women are whores who want to sell themselves for money... or worse still... thrills.
You think whores are "desired and pursued"? What the fuck are we even talking about?
You do not have th eslightest idea of what you're talking about. So please write less and focus on one topic in which progress can be made.

Girls want real men. If girls wanted violence so much the lower classes of Argentina (and Mexico) would be universally desirable by women.
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>>534321422
I literally lived the "teenage romance" so many of the faggots in this site want to push and you know how it ended? She went off to university and broke up with me because of it, women literally just hitch a ride in whatever man is available at the moment and acceptable and then move on to the next one and yet the people pushing demoralization don't even comprehend that if you ask them for marriage they will laugh in your face straight up (happened to me unironically).

I hate these fake demoralization posts because they aren't even realistic and shows that whoever wrote them is probably a mentally ill tranny with no experience on the subject
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>>534321422
They do not marry early, they get locked down early and marry in their high school sweetheart in their mid or late 20's. Anyway I didn't realize this was in the OP.
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>>534320945
Women have no power.
Exactly because they are herd animals.
What can they normalise as herd animals?
Also... what women want to be socially accepted? And by whom?
You see girls function in a pyramidal fashion: The few cute young hot ones at the top and then the rest... and in the bottom the used up old masses...

Girls want to be socially accepted, sure, but not by everybody. And the higher she is the least socially accepted she wants to be by the lower ones.

It's complicated. You're giving women way too much "agency" and then you pretend the lesbians of reddit are the average girl next door or some shit.
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>>534321475
>thrills
This is what most Western middle class women are aiming for.

>>534321546
I too dated in my teens and women at those ages just did whatever the fuck they wanted. In a way the real demoralization is that Western women only want to commit by the time they are spoiled goods. That is the real issue

>>534321547
They arent and if you werent an incel you would know
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>>534321343
Not really. Women are uglier than men by a wide margin. Try to imagine women without their hair. Shit is blackpilling as shit. None of them are attractive. A 7/10 girl has the face of a 4/10 guy. It's literally just the long hair and the idea that you could fuck her that makes her seem like a 7/10.
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>>534321475
You are retarded, does chat GPT write your posts? You are fake, gay and write like a ledditor.
Go back faggot.
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>be an autistic high retard
>first day at a new gym, its tiny and there's one other person there
>it's a very attractive girl
>she basically follows me around the gym
>I go to switch between machines and she gets on the machine I was just on
>I awkwardly go do something else instead and she follows and smiles at me
>I have headphones in so I don't respond and just look away
>finally leave the gym because I'm so flustered
>this goes on for 3 months, she's getting really fit because she's doing whatever exercise I do
>finally work up the courage to talk to her
>get her name and she says she can't hangout on the weekend because "her boyfriend is in town"
>feel like complete shit
>show up to the gym on the weekend
>she's there
>don't talk to her
>eventually start going to a different gym and never see her again
and that's why I'm a 36yo virgin
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>>534321654
>Women have no power.
>What can they normalise as herd animals?
They have manufactured group interest that they selectively break away from if they perceive it as a winning move for themselves personally. For example women are against age gaps but then still date orlando bloom despite him being twice as old
> Also... what women want to be socially accepted? And by whom?
Hard to say, their peers and guys they have on the backburner I would say

>>534321727
I think its about equal
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>>534320625
Eh, most women are just fat. If a woman is at least thin or has big tits or a nice ass most guys will fuck her. Women have a much lower bar to get dick than men do pussy.
>>534321048
Because they view sleeping around as degenerate and that as a man you need to just have kids but they didn't actually follow this advice.
>>534320848
Regardless, it's socially taboo, and most women will cave into the peer pressure of their friend group for dating an older guy. I guarantee there have been women that have turned down guys like Leo because they thought he was too old for them while accepting to get flown out by a celeb their own age.
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>>534321661
>They arent and if you werent an incel you would know
Some do. But, generally speaking, you are correct: they don't.
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>>534320605
>Just get a social circle bro
Never been able to put up with normies, and we are now post covid where all semblance of respect for them has evaporated.
Its not happening. It sucks, since I even get approached by women often and my main issue is just lack of opportunities to meet any. But its over.
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>>534321547
You’re literally the same meme flag posting the same copy-and-paste black pill shit every day with the same images attached. Tell me how this isn’t an orchestrated psyop of sorts.

>>534321833
Copypasta
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>>534321343
Women are ugly at different rates depending on their age.
Men being ugly or beautiful means fuck all. What girls want is a real men: Back in the day it was called socio-sexual dominance. That is a man that has power over others.

And by the way women are always imensely more valuable than men. It's not even comparable. Imagine an island with either one man or a one woman and many people of the opposite sex. Which one would be thriving?
Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive.
Quality eggs then...
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>>534321327
You do not deserve a reply.
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>>534306324
Im wizard and for the most time it was a painful reminder. Over the years tho, when I saw the relationships crumble of family and friends and the nasty divorces, I’m actually pretty glad that I didn’t touch the hot stove to burn myself. Those who are still in a relationship are basically non existing. They have zero freedom, nagging wives and have to remodel their kitchen every 2 years. Sometimes I wish for a woman by my side but then again I would probably ghost her if she gets to annoying or to clingy. Its just after a certain age you don’t give a shit anymore. I cannot simply fall in love with a woman the way I’d as a teen or young adult. When I see a woman my mind automatically calculates how much she’d cost me, emotionally and financially, and what I’d get out of her.
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>>534320829
Nah, at least in America she just needs to not be fat and some dude will want to fuck her. Doesn't necessarily have to be that pretty since makeup can make most of them look okay.
>>534320733
I went to a "prestigious" undergraduate school, most of the women were whores and were sleeping around with the rich frat bros trying to get wifed up.
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>>534321986
Cope
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>>534321903
>They have manufactured group interest that they selectively break away from if they perceive it as a winning move for themselves personally. For example women are against age gaps but then still date orlando bloom despite him being twice as old

You're so much in the wrong mindset... can't you see you contradict yourself?
Why are you caring about le Marlon Brandon or whatever one exception you're focusing about?
What truth are you trying to approach?

Girls do not want the respect of their (perferably lower) peers like men do.
Their need to be socially accepted depends widely on their social position, age, percieved quality as a mate (hotness / attractive), etc.
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>>534306324
Its 100% true. Tradwomen, by definition, are compatible with virtually any guy, and they WILL get permanently hitched by the first or second guy that realizes their worth. You have to get them young, and that's the only time they will be on the market.

Dating as an adult is a compounding punishment for all the time (You) squandered since your own youth. Thinking otherwise is Jewish zogwash. It truly sucks to suck.
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>>534321923
Alright.
It's still better to have a social circle than to not have one.
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>>534321932
Good.
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>>534321991
They were whoring around trying to wife up?

Oh boy! It's as if they weren't whoring around just for the thrill of it...
...
... it was as it if it was a mean to an end...
oh boy!
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>>534321932
>Tell me how this isn’t an orchestrated psyop of sorts.
I am convinced he is a middle easterner of some sort copy pasting something written years ago, this happens every now and then, as I wrote in my previous post it is wrong because it is not even realistic. In modern times "locking up" a woman at all is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE. I really cannot stress this enough but it simply does not work like this anymore, the women just get up and leave, it is impossible to get this across to someone that has never lived it. WOMEN DO NOT CARE, THEY DON'T CARE HOW LONG OF A RELATIONSHIP OR THE THINGS YOU'VE DONE WITH HER, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT GIVES MEANING TO YOUR MEMORIES TOGETHER, SHE DOES NOT CARE AND NEVER WILL.

MEN ARE JUST AN ENTERTAINMENT FOR WOMEN, THEY ARE PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF LOVING YOU.

PLEASE STOP FALLING FOR THE "LOVE" PSYOP
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>>534321833
Why would you feel like complete shit? She found you attractive and was ogling you. Just use her the same way.
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>>534309869
U dead right, anon
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>>534320876
>Women are controlled completely by their pussies

This guy gets it. It's how women operate and it never changes. It influences everything they do.
>>534320951
you either placate your wife by cucking or you break up.
>>534321102
Of course, all our women are on birth control and college basically socializes people to have casual sex.
>>534321218
Men do approach it's just usually third worlders and black men, but I've seen men approach. Also women will approach a guy they like.
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>>534321906
Leo isn’t hot anymore. He’s fat and round, but with money. It makes sense for a woman to be repulsed by that. She’d feel like a whore. That’s entirely different than an older man who still could pass for a heartthrob pop idol.

Like I mentioned before. Girls swooned over Orlando Bloom when he was first seen as Legolas at age 30. Him being famous and with money had little to do with that.

>>534321923
I noticed the only place to meet women as a single adult man is at a bar, a place where you’d never find a quality woman. Where do single girls even go? Are they just kept in a virtual enclosure such as a school or a job?

>Nah, this office is full of ugly women. I guess I’ll quit and find another job.
>Years later and 1000 applications later…
>Ha! Found one! She works at McWages! But she’s already got a boyfriend…
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>>534322207
>In modern times "locking up" a woman at all

Yeah, it's way more difficult.
However all girls want to lock up with a superior mate.
If you're good enough - not even that great - most girls will want to lock up with you.

You speak like you never had a girl who actually loved you in a relationship with you . And so you believe it is not possible.
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>>534321547
Somewhat true. They may "take a break" to sleep around but yes people get locked down in their early 20s, live with them for a few years then get married. You're right about women not wanting a serious relationship too soon. Women get horny and want to try out different dicks
>>534321546
This is true there's a meme about guys sending their girlfriends off to Arizona State (notorious party school) and the joke is that she's going to leave him and cheat. Society doesn't want you to win, even if you lock the girl down in high school, college is designed to break you guys up
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>>534322117
Did I squander it or was I sabotaged?
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>>534322350
You are a cuntoid I suppose? there is no other explanation for why you keep insisting on this.

You lie to yourself, you lie so much you cannot even tell the truth apart from the fiction in your head.
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>>534321833
Even if a woman has a boyfriend she still wanted you to fuck her. Most decent looking women will have someone already but that doesn't mean she wouldn't fuck you. She just said that to let you know "hey lets try another weekend"
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>>534322504
Probably objectively a mixture of both, but a masculine mindset will ultimately place the blame on (You).
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>>534322467
>They may "take a break" to sleep around
Not the kind of women I described, that's not happening. You are thinking of the average woman, I am not. The type of women I described will invest and uplift their boyfriend, they will guide him and stand by him until the end.
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>>534322289
You should approach groups of women.
But be careful, you should not approach in order to fuck them... you should approach in order to offer them a good enough time (by all means buy them shit just don't spend too much) so that you can build your social circle and eventually get them to introduce you to other women, etc.

Unironically if you can pull it and if you can stand it a starbucks is an awesome place to do just that. Or any other liberal gay central.
You can visit colleges every now and again and focusing on the not so great looking girls in order to build your social circle - focus on girls that are social, not basket cases, or she'll only introduce you to their group of witches.
If you live in a big enough city / area go for a walk to the same place for a month, I don't know... river front, near a monument, a good view, a fucking high school (not in America though, make it a college campus or something) and get to know the people there.

But if you really want to get to know hot young girls... you'll have to invest in becoming friends of young guys who could or would be swimming in such an environment.
It's great that high school and college boys are always happy to recieve a ridiculously small quantity of money...
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>>534322708
>The type of women I described will invest and uplift their boyfriend, they will guide him and stand by him until the end.
This does not exist and has not existed for almost a hundred years now.

You are delusional for hoping that this sort of woman exist
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>>534307320
I walked the money first, bitches later path, because I fell for the meme back then (tons of adults were pushing it on me too). If you aren't married by college, you are FUCKED. It's OVER. I say that as a dude with a house, car, 6 fig job, who is also 6'3" and has a decent dick. The only thing left at that point are social reject females - the ones who scam for meals, fuck 100s of dicks, and hate your guts. There are no single women at decent paying work, don't fall for that shit.

All of my chances were in MS, HS, and college, and I threw them all away thanks to this shit ass combo of advice and shyness. Getting laid early MATTERS. DO NOT WAIT under any circumstance. Not laid yet? See a fucking pro, get over the virgin jitters, it matters a whole fucking lot to confidence levels.

Otherwise you end up like me, comfy and alone, with no women or kids. Sure I won't ever get divorce raped, but I also don't get to have kids. Shit is all scams when you are a working adult, you MUST get a women BEFORE social media fucks her up and she's out of school where you get free daily contact with hotties that normalizes you to them. If you wait, you become a stranger and women judge strangers HARSHLY. VERY HARSHLY. To the point 99% of men are fucked. Don't wait. Don't play this strat. Get in early, or you lose the game permanently. The difficulty curve spikes HARD post school, especially since aging will fuck you at the same time too.
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>>534306324
im unloveable
ive been shown and told this over and over again by different women
why should i care for anyone else, we are all prisoners now
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This is a weird jeet cope about no arranged marriages in the West you guys need to stop acting like shitskins and get a grip lol
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>>534322626
I was a kid. How was I supposed to know? I was doing what I was told by parents and teachers.

One of the worst bits of advice teachers, media, and parents have told their kids is to “be themselves.” I did that and it crippled me socially. I became bitter and called everyone “posers” for following mainstream fashion and music to get laid. They were happy. I was miserable.
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>>534306324
>How true is this?
Not at all. There are plenty of high quality girls out there.
(You) fags just never meet any of them because you are terminally online shut-ins with Avoidant Personality Disorder and no social life.
You waste all of your free time sitting at home, alone, staring at a screen and wallowing in self-pity. What else did you expect to happen? Did you really think your imaginary fantasy cute virgin tradwife was just going to randomly show up one day and knock on your door and ask you to marry her?
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>>534322862
>The difficulty curve spikes HARD post school, especially since aging will fuck you at the same time too.

True.
But you really have to invest in young girls, anon.
You can get out of school, but the hotties always gather there.
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>>534306324
That's written from the POV of a teenager.
You believe such things, because your 30s seem so far away. It's unexplored territory. You have no idea how 30+ year old people think.
Irl, people don't get married to their high school sweetharts. Most people have forgotten the face, name, and events, of the first gfs/bfs in their lives.
Your teens and twenties are for the vast majority of old adults, irrelevant.
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>>534322944
>They were happy. I was miserable.
I used to be a normie for the first half of my life you wanna know the truth? None of them are happy, not the women nor the men, they are all faking happiness to seem attractive.

Normies are spiritually buckbroken in a way I cannot show you with words. They truly believe that being happy is the same as pretending to be happy, it is no wonder they fall into drugs and hookups.

Unironically the first thing anyone should be taught in life is to learn to live being unhappy, happiness is not normal, being happy is not even fucking natural, happiness is something you were designed to feel when you murdered some fucking animal in the woods and ate its corpse with your bare fucking teeth.

Normies are addicted to that pursuit of happiness and they end up completely enslaved to a system that wants to exploit them for everything they are worth.
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>>534306324
>How true is this?
Not very true at all anymore, really. Women are just as chewed up as men by the dating scene and apps and social media, not to mention that they're also the main targets of most propaganda campaigns. There are definitely good ones who are way more likely to slip through the cracks and end up single way past their early to mid 20s than they would have been say 20 or 30 years ago.
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>>534306324
>extroverted women
Ok fine, dont want those
Now what? OPs entire gay post falls apart
I want a shy introverted one
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>>534322709
>But if you really want to get to know hot young girls... you'll have to invest in becoming friends of young guys
Lol.
College kids don't want to be your friend, unc.
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>>534323149
Serious but off topic question. Are you a Pole living in Argentina?
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>>534323440
Not to mention they don’t want a millennial to be happy.
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>>534323452
No, I was born and have lived all my life in CABA and have never left this country.
Why'd you ask?
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>>534307786
>the reality is that the loneliness epidemic
The reality is that there is no loneliness epidemic. Whiny, insufferable losers just have an outlet to incessantly complain about how lonely they are. In the past, these people would just be local hermit living alone in a shack innawoods, or some old spinster aunt living in a relative's spare bedroom.
But today, the internet makes it possible for all of the losers and failures and fuckups in society to make contact with each other and create communities and turn being a fuckup and failure at life into their entire identity.
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>>534323452
I am a big fan of this guy though.
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>>534323029
Men who don't go out, because normies are NPC, and every activity out there, is overpriced.
>But I save a lot in not eating out, and not going places.
Yes. And you also win nothing, because nothing happens when you stay locked inside your home. Many things happen out there, but you're too cheap to experience it.
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>>534323440
They are not my best friends, sure, but they introduce me to cute girls, invite me to their parties, and are nice enough to me.

It's a win win situation.
I don't know why you're so mad about it.

>>534323076
This is not true at all. Your teens and 20s is the most important time of your life. After 30 your life is just a consequence of what came before in 99% of the dimensions of your life. Especially with girls.
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>>534309999
You honestly don't even need all of that. There are plenty of ugly broke fuckups who get laid all the time.
The male role in the human mating process is to be aggressive and take risks and make the first move and keep pushing things forward sexually. The guys who consistently do those things get girls, regardless of what they look like or how much money they have or how popular they are. The guys who never do those things don't get girls regardless of what they look like or how much money they have or how popular they are.
EVERY incel in any western country in 2026 is either some ugly weird foreign shitskin who shouldn't even be here, or is a guy who could get laid and could get a girlfriend, but isn't actually trying. That's literally all there is to it. Anything else is just complete cope.
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>>534323788
>After 30 your life is just a consequence of what came before in 99% of the dimensions of your life
Not really. Unless you did some nefarious things like crimes or accidentally lost a limb or some shit like it.
In the over 30 world, almost nobody ever thinks about their teen years. By 40, you're not even the same person.
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>>534323841
>EVERY incel in any western country in 2026 is either some ugly weird foreign shitskin who shouldn't even be here, or is a guy who could get laid and could get a girlfriend, but isn't actually trying. That's literally all there is to it. Anything else is just complete cope.

Get a load of this retarded fucking take.
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It may be true but the issue is not the women, it is THE STATE.

The state that allows her to divorce rape you and take your children while forcing you to pay for the kids and her well-being via the state. The state that has removed you from your natural rights as a man, to run your family and control the minds and lives of your children.

Every father in the Weimar West cannot tell his daughter to not dress and act like a whore because the mother, a female programmed by jewish media and surrounded by weimar laws meant to ensure you can't control her despite her relying on your provision, can use the state to deny you access to your kids while taking every penny and asset you have to fund her and the kids.

So, once again, the issue isn't the women, sure there are more whores than chaste women, but nothing can be done about this unless men control women as things are naturally. And that has been denied AT THE STATE LEVEL via STATE-ENFORCED FEMINISM.


Right now, every single man under a state-enforced feminist system, that is the entire Western World, is a mere serf. Nothing more. He is being robbed, humiliated, and spat at while wrapped in chains every time he pays any tax or does any labor for the state.

Only active dissent will fix this. Or the upcoming collapse due to natural forces the jews cannot control. Whichever comes first.
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This shit is GAAAAAAY kys op
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>>534321989
This, literally me.
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>>534323841
One of the best comments in this thread.

I read it to the sound of
>All I wanna do
>Is have some fun
>I have the feeling
>I'm not the only one

The 90s were glorious... this was common knowledge, now we die before even letting that pass through our minds.
I blame the jews and their minion immigrants, obviously.

>>534323955
My 30 and 40 yo friends are always reminescing about the past.
Come the fuck on!

Ask any old people. It's their 20s, their teens if they were lucky and then kids and grandkids...
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>>534324143
>a serf

98% of the serfs had their daughters marrying virgins instead of being the village whores.
You wish we were serfs.



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