If you aren't switching to an electric car or at the very least a hybrid electric vehicle in response to the rising price of oil/gasoline, you aren't going to make it.
Lemme ask you a questionWhere does the energy to charge the battery in a hybrid car come from?Assuming you got the answer right:In what sense is it a "hybrid"?
>>534306598How the fuck am I supposed to afford buying an electric car if I can't afford gas
>>534306665It comes from nuclear power and sunshine.
>>534306723It pays for itself after a few years. The higher the price of gas, the faster it pays for itself.
>>534306821Let me rephrase: if I'm struggling to buy gas how the fuck do you expect me to have the money to buy a new car
>>534306665Hydro, nuclear, wind, bio, etc.
>>534306665>lives in an ecofriendly country with windmills and solar panels literally everywhere>is trying to make a point about being dependent on oilgo fuck yourself.
>>534307728dudes right like the entire grid is designed to burn coal
>>534306598>50k for electric carOr>25k for gasoline carOkay, so that's a 25k difference.>20 kwh/100 kmOr>7 liters/100 km>10ยข vs 14$>13.9$/100KM loss>Break even at 180 000 kmBut then, gasoline cars have the upper-hand on the second-hand market and/because they generally last longer.By the time you break even, your microwave has no value and will break eventually.My numbers are based on my province where electricity is dirt cheap and gas is extremely high.It's still a bad investment.
>>534308057My point is that he is making it from the worst vantage point possible. Being reliant on coal or oil is a thing of the history. Your mode of life should be away from these things, less dependent on them. 4chan is conservative in the best ways, being reliant on corporations that profit from oil/coal is the worst side of the Republican party. Not true conservatism and you know it.
>>534306665Coal, which doesn't have to be shipped through Hormuz.
>>534308247I'll even go further.If you take that extra 25k in your pockets and invest it at no risk in a bank, you never break even (based on the average usage per year)If you don't have the 25k and take a loan to pay for either car, then it's even worse.
>>534308645You don't have to buy that shit new, man. Most of the people here just get used cars anyway. Buy it a half decade or a little more off the market and you can get a good car for a fraction of the new price.
>>534308863Dumb move as well.Used cars have no resale value once you're done with them.They also have higher interest rates on loans.Buying a used electrical car is financial suicide.The only used cars you should buy are from your cousin selling his 90s honda for 500$.
>>534308960You should always buy used and never get a loan on it.
>>534306598Nigger my car can run on cooking oil.If this shit persists I'll switch to the cheapest cooking oil qnd thats that
>>534308960If you need a loan for a second hand car you dont afford a car
>>534308995Then we get the same problem as stated above.You don't break even until you hit high mileage.You simply reach that faster with a used car, but then you have to take in consideration how long the car with last.I.E.: if you break even after 3 years on a used car, but the car last another year, it's not a great investment.The price difference could be used to invest, making it null, at best, based on numbers very generous to the electrical car industry.>>534309160Of course.
>>534306871Yea I did the math. The monthly payment for an electric car is a lot more than i pay for maintenance and fuel for my 20 year old Toyota which will continue running nearly indefinitely. Plus I would need full coverage insurance on the new ev which costs about 5 times as much as insurance for my shit box. If fuel gets too expensive (it's already equivalent of 5.30 a gallon), then we're going to have problems beyond "I can't afford to drive muh gas car".
Also, several third world African shit holes are paying significantly more for fuel than Americans. And they somehow manage to survive. If a modest increase in the price of fuel is causing you to question your ability to survive, then maybe you're just poor and suck with money
>>534306598Serious question; whats the longevity like on hybrid vehicles? Im im the market for a new pickup (literal outdoor manual laborer, need the tow and bed for practical reasons, also been toying with the idea since last year, and the upcoming 2027 camera pointed right at your fucking face law makes me wanna do it sooner rather than later), and there are actually lots of hybrid options now that are what i would consider within my pricerange to just fuckin up and buy, no payment plan needed; but im still kinda leaning to pure gas powered because i feel like it'll last longer and have less maintenance shenanigans; this opinion coming largely from hearsay from my buddies who have never owned hybridsI get that hybrids are new and all, but at this point they've been around for years, so my question is; is it a reasonable expectation for a hybrid truck to last ~15 years like you would expect a 'normal' truck to?
>>534310657I work with 1000s of trades people and nearly everyone drives pickups that have naturally aspirated engines. No one drives a cybertruck. And what hybrids can you even buy? Maybe a tundra? But I heard those aren't built as well as Toyotas were in the past. Follow the money and ask yourself why most people don't bother with hybrids. Maybe if you want a really lightweight pick up you can buy a maverick but any real pickup is best in gas/diesel only. If it was any other way, the market would have shifted there already
>>534310920Lookin mainly at tacoma and maverick for the hybrid options, kinda leaning maverick since it's so fucking cheap and it's not like i honestly expect this vehicle to last the rest of my life.Tacomas are great i like em a lot, driven em, buddies have em, but... nobody has the hybrid trd or whatever amd the trd is like starting point at 50k while i could get a maverick hybrid +awd +tow package for 30k; My main problem with the maverick is it's unibody, and you can't configure cab, it has to be 4seat and you lose the bed size because of it
>>534306598Get a bicycle.
>>534306598had a Prius, sold it to my sister over a decade ago. Nothing but bikes ever since, happy and healthy. Kinda sad that the car sharing craze died off during COVID though, those competing services were convenient for the occasional long trip or cargo haul.
>>534306665>Where does the energy to charge the battery in a hybrid car come from?In your case? Nothing, because you shut down all your reactors.
