China builds them even cheaper
>>534312860That's what I like about China, if they knew they could do a better version then they would charge a higher price. With Australian products the price doesn't match the quality there's just 0 correlation.
>>534312640yeah, tard, somebody was able to scam Bangladeshi ultra-jeets, maybe they're smuggling coke into Columbia too
>>534312640That's the price for two reactors built at the same site simultaneously. Divide by half to get per unit price.
why cant a nation of engineers and scientists build their own powerplants?
>>534312860If you buy from Russia, Russia will supply the fuel rods and will take used fuel rods (most dangerous type of radioactive waste) back to Russia. China doesn't offer similar level of turnkey service nor does U.S., France, or S. Korea.
there are a bunch of topics about nuclear reactos that are not talked about> which retard made the claim that nuclear halftime would require storage for millions of years> why they still propagate this lie> why the solution was to dump the nuclear waste into the fucking ocean or expose it to ground water> why all attempts for a nuclear transmutation industry were sabotaged with bullshit reasons there is a bunch of more but thats what I never see discussed anywhere.
>>534312640>Jeet maintenance It'll be useless if not melted in 5 years or less.
>>534312640Is this Bangladesh's first nuclear plant, their first Russian built power plant, or their first plant built at a $13 Billion price point?
>>534313194>If you buy from Russia, Russia will supply the fuel rods and will take used fuel rods (most dangerous type of radioactive waste) back to Russia. China doesn't offer similar level of turnkey service nor does U.S., France, or S. Korea.Doesn't Russia just Refine it again?
>>534312640>$13 billionpocket changeread about rail train in CA costing $240 billion
>>534313364It's not economical to reprocess used fuel rods to get more fuel or get weapons-grade materials at current uranium ore prices. They just get sorted and stored in secure storage just in case Russia might need it in future.
>>534313364yes, russia has a large number of breeder reactors which are able to transmute spent fuel back to useful fuel. the closed nuclear fuel cycle would be a feasible near term solution to the carbon crisis if we weren’t under the heel of kikes and capitalists
>>53431264013 billion rupees or whatever they haveprobably a million usd
>>534313568>breeder reactorthe colloquial term is braaphog
>>534312640Russia has been ripping of India bad since the beginning. India keeps buying from them because they have too because India can't make it themselves and it's still cheaper to buy Russian than anyone else, but they charge India more than their other buyers.
>>534313715India got shut out of the western nuclear supply chain after they begged the U.S. to get a civilian reactor then immediately modified it to make nuclear warheads.
>>534313404>read about rail train in CA costing $240 billionThat's just California things, read about the 8 mile foot and bike path that was funded 365 million dollars over a decade ago. California has already blown through all of the money allocated for it and is almost done with Evironmental approval stage, now the path is expected to cost over 1 billion dollars.I'm pretty sure that's gonna be well over $1000 a square foot.
>>534313364they just recently had a breakthrough that uses nuclear waste for even more clean energymeanwhile we blew our riches on kikes and their doomed Isreal project
>>534312640It's cheap, we sell our Candu nuclear reactors for more but they also scale versus the Russian models. Basically expect to buy a couple more. N+1 is how it works.
>>534312640The U.S. shuts that in a single day of war with Iran.
>>534312640It's probably not just one but a row of several reactors including all tech of the supply and waste management chain. Each one of those reactors would cost us at least €5B to build. Russians do it for half or even less.
>>534312640The fucking trump ball room costs half a billion you absolute nonce
>>534313883>meanwhile we blew our riches on kikes and their doomed Isreal projectWe got a pretty cool bike path out of it, for a mere $1312 a square foot. >>534313876
>>534313194Yes. I'm saying that the plant itself can cost even less.What's your point?
>>534312860They buy them on temu. Which is chinese too. Win/win or ....?
>>534314087For a country that doesn't have an existing nuclear power plant support system, the Russian offering is more attractive when considering all-in cost over the lifetime of the power plant, not just the cost of the reactor.
>>534312640France was genius decades ago when they got big on building nuclear plants. Someone was smart enough to lay down the law and declare that the plants need to be built the same way without major changes to the design. They were able to crank out the same parts and pieces, and the construction became so streamlined iirc they were setting record build times for each new one.Real shame France is so stagnant these days. Theyve got enormous potential.
>>534313404240 billion no train you mean. There's effectively no rail, it's not high speed and as far as I'm aware there is no actual trains for it "yet". Somehow Newsome has surpassed Marvel on bad gay CGI on shit nobody asked for.
>>534312640Hope they have good security, would be a shame if anything "happened" to it..
>>534312640Most of the cost of a western nuclear plant is legal/paperwork or due to delays caused by legal battles.
>>534313055>divide by halfThats multiplication by two
>>534314251French nuclear got rekt by Germany which initially wanted to merge reactor efforts to create one unified European design, made France add a whole bunch of Germany-specific overkill safety features, then once the reactor design became very bloated and very expensive, fucked off from the joint project and not order a single one. France is proceeding with EPR2 design which strips away all the retarded shit first Germany then Finland and the U.K. asked France to add and slashes cost, at least in paper estimates, to below American AP1000 and on par with S. Korean APR1400.
>>534314410deranged nato copes and wishes
>>534315007Good on France.Makes me wonder if its not France to blame for the 6th gen fighter jet program issues. Maybe they are just superior and know it, and cooperation with other countries means shitting up their own good designs.
>>534312640Nuclear is really fucking expensive, and that's from Rosatom, the most experienced in the business of building reactors for other nations from start to finish.
>>534312640look up the cost of it in france and finnish oneswish eurocucks you get delays and massive budget spikes
>>534314346>>534313876>>534313404It's easy to build it if someone complains about my land you confiscate it if they try to use force to defend their land you send them to jail or shoot them.And you hire Chinese or Japanese companies to built it DO NOT HIRE AMERICANS OR EUROPEANS
>>534314410You're dumb>>534312860Ok
>>534312640we dont do that in germany
>>534312640>How can a nuclear plant cost 13 billions>BangladeshRussians probably had to ship in every last bolt and have no locals on site to not have another Chernobyl on their hands.Still a big gamble.
>>534315260Nuclear shills refuse to admit this, the Millstone Nuclear plant in my state hiked our power bills massively and now everyone just wants it shut down.
>>534313149why can't Germans?
>>534312640Here in Caliwali, we can't even build a train with $200 billion. No way a nuclear power plant could cost under $1 trillion.
>>534312860Well, Russians have to make a profit on this.
>>534313883>hey just recently had a breakthrough that uses nuclear waste for even more clean energySounds like clickbait popsci nonsense. All I could find was "Russia promises new technology that doesn't exist yet trust me bro". You should know better than to believe random claims on the internet.
>>534315548The expense for nuclear is front-loaded. It doesn't make sense financially if fossil fuel prices are low and supply plentiful for decades to come. If the fossil fuel price skyrockets or even worse the supply becomes unstable even when you're willing to pay any price, not having nuclear power plant means your state's economy is fucking done and every industry moves to areas near nuclear power plant where they can get stable supply of energy. Think of it more like an insurance that shields your state from the worst case catastrophic scenarios if you live in a country that is currently energy self-sufficient from traditional sources.
>>534312640>>534312860>in the 1980s several nuclear power plants in Washington were canceled after the estimated construction costs increased from $4.1 billion to over $24 billion (resulting in a $2 billion bond default from the utility provider.)seems like a deal compared to shartmerican workmanship.
Every part is essentially bespoke because there's no mass production of them. You can't just use shit from Home Depot.
>>534312640The Roopur NPP has two reactors with a combined capacity of 2.4 gigawatts. The cost is $12.6B in total, so $5.3B per gigawatt.
>>534312640Imagine letting jeets anywhere near a nuclear plant. Chernobyl 2.0 incoming…
>>534316482Every western pressurized reactor relies on one metal forging plant in South Korea for critical parts, and their order log stretches 10+ years. The situation is made worse by the fact that the plant has to constantly switch between making parts for different reactors instead of the reactors standardizing on interchangeable designs. The supply chain is a complete nightmare due to decades of de-industrialization.
>>534315601BN-800 fast neutron reactor.https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/pilot-operation-of-fuel-with-minor-actinides-completed
What's the point? The jeets are going to shit in the coolant water and clog up and corrode the pipes and the thing's gonna have a meltdown within 10 years.I hope it kills a lot of jeets when it does.
>>534312640The newest one in Finland cost like 15 billionShit is expensive if you don't have the experience in building them
>>534312860would you trust a chinese quality nuclear reactor
>>534317049Finland got the French reactor that got bloated by duplicate safety measures requested by Germany, Finland, U.K., and others. It wouldn't have been such a nightmare if they ordered a slightly older generation reactor from GE which are similar to existing Swedish-designed reactors that Finland had been operating for decades.see>>534315007
>>534317176China will give you what you pay for.It's their cultural mindset.If you pay peanuts, they will give you crap. This isn't some roadside thrift shop shit, NPPs cost billions, even Chinese ones. Shit would probably cost 10 billion instead of 13 and bulk of that "discount" would be China not having to ship part halfway across the world and not doing spent fuel recovery and other service shit.
>>534317551you never worked with chink suppliers theyll happily scam you
>>534317635I know you hate competition, but re-read the first sentence.
>>534317703i know my post isn't longbut reread my first sentence
>>534317786you want cheap shit, the cheapest shit in the world, and you will get cheap shit, with shit underscoredif you didn't want cheap shit, you wouldn't even be talking to chinksand they know itand they fucking hate you for itand they act accordingly
>>534316482Pretty sure Russia actually has a mass production chain set up for their reactors, at least, it's fully vertically integrated.
>>534312640Rosatom is the only company in the world that controls whole supply chain
>>534317635My ranking of best workers/ best business partners> West Europeans> Americans > Japanese> Strayans> Est Europeans> Koreans > Chinese> Jews> Mexicans> South Est Asians > Dogs> Indians and other shit flavours of Indians > Favelitos> Middle Easterners> African Niggers
>>534313825and they got it from Canada
>>534317927no again you never worked with themfor example a common one isship perfect samplesand when they secure a large order send worthless out of spec shit while pocketing the difference and you can't do shit but take that loss
>>534318154i don't believe you worked with half of these even
>>534318236It was a complicated deal where India begged U.S. then the U.S. decided American designs were too risky for weapons proliferation and had Canada sell CANDU to India but with some American parts swapped in (probably for CIA monitoring uses) and the heavy water delivered by the U.S. instead of Canada.
>>534312640I thought we were required reading confessions of an economic hitman at least once before posting
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>>534317635ayy lmao unlike the greatest merchant
>>534318648How do you know so much about nuclear reactors? In the field? Autism?
>>534315555the law, probably
>>534312640So the nuclear power plant will break down constantly but you can easily fix it with a bit of wire and a screwdriver?
>>534312640This is a can of nuclear grade anti-seize for things like bolts and fasteners and is about $150 CAD. A similiar size can of regular copper anti-seize is $50. Now imagine the 3x price difference for every pipe and bolt, in addition to the low volume, highly engineered reactor parts like the pressure vessel, fuel rods, pumps etc.
>>534314410This guy gets it. They'll use to produce plutonium if feasible just like the pajeets and make a nuclear warhead
>>534313328Yes.
>>534319841>This is a can of nuclear grade anti-seize for things like bolts and fasteners and is about $150 CADyou pay more for kilo of rib eye, this doesn't work with Canadian prices
>>534313244>> why all attempts for a nuclear transmutation industry were sabotaged with bullshit reasons>there is a bunch of more but thats what I never see discussed anywhere.redpill us on this pls
>>534312640Russia better be planning to RBMK the jeets or we can't be friends
>>534312640Don't need overpriced muttnigger shit
>>534316883So it's a gen 4 molten salt reactor from 2014?
>>534321860jews want America interested in the Middle East. The end.
>>534315555we did. we build the first one in 56. they were torn down for the same reason why you are flooded with poo. and btw, we had to pay the energy jew for allowing us to destroy them. ask any german if that was their decision. ask any american if they really want immigration. or niggers.
>>534312640>Is Russiadon't care
>>534314087The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where "feed" and "seed" both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck".
>>534318343the universe must balance, it is imperetive , it is LAW. ask yourself why that chink is ripping you off? ponder that question......and then ask yourself what will balance blowing children to pieces with bombs dropped on schools, dropped on tents, drooped on hospitals, children sniped in their parents arms, prisoners of war raped, prisoners of war raped by dogs, grandmas shot in the head waiting in line to get a little food for her family. >you will cry out in pain as you gnaw at a baby boys penisTKD
>>534313194Russia provides more than that but yes, they do the whole package togeather. From start to finish, from the first shovel to decommissiioning. They provide the entire package of a NPP. China probably could cover all of construction but as of right now, they dont provide dealing with the fuel and nuclear waste. Which is why Rosatom is getting a lot of deals and the biggest exporter of NPP.
>>534324215imagine thinking soulless insects care about you ahmed it's the most common scam they do
>>534317176Aren't the Chinese reactors licensed French tech?
>>534316954>pajeets create a nuclear poop meltdowncannot wait
>>534318154no way in hell are indians better than favelitos, middle easterners and niggers
>>534325265no idea
