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Day 1,528 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research

▶Latest
>Strikes at Su-57 and Su-34 aircraft at the airfield in Chelyabinsk region - General Staff of AFU
>Another wave of smooooking accidents at the Tuapse and Perm oil refineries
>putin has now classified all decrees, absolutely no access by the public to what they are
>sPerm droned and sniffing
>A video has leaked online showing the completed certificates for freezing russian citizens' money, initiated by the Central Bank of the russian federation.
>Tuapussy tapped AGAIN
>Ukrainian FM Sybiga summoned Israel’s ambassador in protest over a shipment to an Israeli port allegedly containing stolen grain farmed on russian-occupied Ukrainian territory
>russian economy specialist Alexandra Prokopenko said the May 9 parade on Red Square will take place without military vehicles, featuring only a marching column and only several hundred guests instead of the usual thousands. The event will last less than an hour.
>three ships and a Mig-31 droned in crimea
>russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as GDP shrinks
>193 Ukrainian soldiers are returning home as part of the prisoners swap with russia
>EU's €90bn loan for Ukraine and the 20th sanctions package against russia formally approved
>Drone forces destroyed the command post and rear deployment point of the FSB’s Directorate of Mobile Operations in the temporarily occupied Donetsk.

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▶Intel
t.me/DeepStateEN
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ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)
▶Maps
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▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)
TOURS 1-4: files.catbox.moe/mpcw7p.zip
▶12 min of TZD in one ditch (Pokrovsk area) - 28 killed
files.catbox.moe/sxbxfb.mp
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kill all katsaps and traitors
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>>534316685
Trannies,

You know....we could spare the negresses and just send ukraine supporters to the african/ukrainian rape festival. -------> >>534313821

We finally found a use for you all.
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>>534316751
you forgot to post Cirillo, projooctor
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>>534316685

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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TzD
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>>534316820
the Chadkraine*
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>>534316751
Hey, so I was wondering. What kind of American are you?
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>please surr
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>>534316808
That's because he knows what reply he'd get :)
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>t-trannies!
Mearshy, go fuck danetranny and stop being a closeted faggot, why did you move in with him otherwise.
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>>534316820
You know your life is at an all time low when not only are you dressing like a woman, you're posting it on /chug/
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>>534316685
Fuck tranny and brown /uhg/
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Пыпa, итoги
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>>534316894
>TF
VPN, diaspora patriot or race traitor?
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>>534316894
Russia is more browned and trooned than Europe though. We're the less cucked side.
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>>534316685

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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>a tranny finally gets an std-riddled faggot to fuck
>an std-riddled faggot finally gets a tranny to fuck
>they still come to shit up threads instead of doing what they got together for
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Vasya gets slaughtered and cubed in a foreign country so Mtumbe is free to knock up 16 year old Natasha.
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>>534317002
two more weeks newfag
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YEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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>>534316859
>durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>534316685
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The Total Zigger Death train has no brakes.
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PLAP
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Ivan had his intestines spread over a potato field so Ranjeet can enjoy his puccocunny harem unabated.
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> Ukraine Is Now An Arms Superpower
The sun never sets on the hohol empire
https://www.persuasion.community/p/ukraine-is-now-an-arms-superpower
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>>534317158
Do you have the guts to 'pedia pypa's early life section?
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>>534317175
M-M-M-MONSTER KILL!!!!!!!!
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>>534317189
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This war will never end. Bush Sr. warned Ukraine about suicidal nationalism but they decided to call him chicken kiev.
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Shouldn't Igor be doing something about pic related instead of "conquering" land that will go back to Ukraine eventually anyway?
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>>534317237
Another "fellow American" rolls up. How's the weather in the Florida oblast today?
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>>534317317
No Igor, no problem, cumrat))))
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Sup beautiful bastards, any peremogas lately?
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Zisters, I thought they would welcome us as liberators... have we been le lied to?
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>>534317348
yet his warnings fell on deaf ears. it's incredible this thing

you literally have Bush Sr and Trump warning against this development
Obama getting cold feet on Crimea

yet the retards kept droning on. Ukrainians are truly retards
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Zisters... how do we respond...
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TUAPUSSY BEACH PARTY 2026
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>>534317436
You dress like a woman and then show that content off to a 4chan thread
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Zisters... why does pypa pynymirovich have to beg allies for groceries? I thought Euronazis were the ones supposed to freeze and subsist on hamster goulash?
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>>534317555
checked & rekt
how do we end the Z-tranny epidemic? I suggest glide bombs.
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>>534316751
Mearspidor? Is it really you?
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>>534317557
By the way how are you guys doing in this brutal winter? I heard it snowed 1 meter there today and you're resorting to burning starved corpses to keep warm
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>>534317680
How do we end it? It ends itself half of the time
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T O T A L
Z I G G E R
D E A T H
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>>534317557
>>534317541
>>534317359
>>534317235
>>534317030
>>534316912
>>534316884
>>534316851

Do you find it funny how the mods delete threads spreading the gospel about superior asian cuties, but the mods dont delete tranny ukraine supporter threads?

------> >>534317290

Reminder, none of you trannies are authorized to look at asian women. You are all too lowly.
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>>534317716
Is of true, I just ate another hamster(((((((((((((((
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>>534316751
>>534316751
>>534316751
>>534316751
>> 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026,
YEAR FIVE
OF SEETHING SHITSKIN
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>>534317716
indeed, it's very uncomfortable, misery inducing even
please send gas mr puten
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>mearshy kwetches about trannies instead of fucking his tranny roommate
How loose is danetranny, mearshy?
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>>534316948
>>534317046
>>534317178
>>534317317
>goymanny flag
All your women are whores who are fucked daily by refugees, and all your men are cuckolds
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>>534317772
>asian women
Why would I look at animals with piss colored skin, flat faces, black hair and eyes, no internal monologue and a compulsion for lying? Disgusting
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>>534317880
>the brownest man alive describes his retarded fetishes
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>>534317880
>turboprojection
better bring your shades, too many lumens of projOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOcting
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>>534317880
>>534317880
>>534317880
NICE
SELF
PROJECTION

>> RUSSIA IS DOING THE SAME THING THE WEST IS DOING
>> BUT FASTER

UHH OHH ANON
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>>534317773
Don't worry just watch some ecuadorian chef videos on youtube and you'll learn how to make it gourmet!
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>>534317772
Mearshy, why are you ignoring us? Did your handler tell you not to communicate with anyone and just spam your pointless bullshit?
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>>534317945
>literal african country that doesnt allow racial statistics or paternity tests
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>>534317817
And I heard there will be another meter of snow next week. If only we didn't shut the pipelines down!
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>>534317772
Did the original really get sent to the front and you're just a cheap imitation?
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>>534318044
kek
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>>534318044
Devilish
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>>534318032
womp womp poorfag
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>>534318032
indeed it shouldn't even be possible to be more cucked than Europe, but Russia managed to be just that
>>534318046
F
if there are survivors, please let them know that puccians are stronk, fearsome, and not at all diseased, addicted, demented Untermenschen on a warrior LARP
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>>534318044
lol
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>>534318185
>le nigguer of europe has an opinion, please listen to him
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>>534317928
>cherry picks known chinese dysgenics/inbred traits

trannies generally are this dishonest.

you also exposed your plebian tastes in women. you just ran your hands through the fur of a fake fur coat, and you said to yourself, "this feels fine!"

absolutely disgusting creature.
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brb piss
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>>534318192
Yes I will let them know that they are indeed the trad aryans they told us they are
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>>534318185
>having to live in France or Russia
oh no!
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>>534318044
lmao
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>plebian tastes in women
>t. mearshy
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>>534318268
>NO U
Asians are incapable of original thought, just more proof that you're not human
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>>534318244
>gets droned by ahmed, tuareg from azawad
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>>534317990
>turboprojection
The truth really hurts, doesn't it?
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>>534317928
How do people with no inner monologue know how to lie? Genuine question, I'm curious about the neurology of it.
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>>534318268
Why the need to try to derail the thread? Dont you want to talk about russia's achievements on the battlefield?
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Pobieda ctatyc?????????????????
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здpaвия жeлaю!
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>>534318364
>Why the need to try to derail the thread?
Thirdies think they can magic reality into being.
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>>534318346
A lot of improvising as they go
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>>534318341
Like the truth of Z-trannies never ever being able to pass, yes, hurts a lot.
Remember, no matter how cucked Europe is, Russia is more cucked than Europe.
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>>534318326
Cope, your country is a pathetic african dump
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>>534318407
imagine the smell
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>>534318319
liking your women without a penis is peasant shit, you didn't get the memo clearly
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>>534318481
>gives the holy book the wettest smooch
>still gets killed by al qaeda
the tragedy of the russian race
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>>534317928
you're posting in an asian cartoon imageboard
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>>534318407
Definition of the word billowing.
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>>534318481
But how do you rate the ethnic Russianness of the Chechen cocks that railed your mother and sister?
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>>534318479
>Remember, no matter how cucked Europe is, Russia is more cucked than Europe.
You can only silently envy the whiteness of Russia and Belarus, western castrated golems
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>>534317773
my surname is Хoм'як
topzozzle
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>>534318637
But anon, any white Slavic citizen of puccia and belocucks is a confused Ukrainian or Pole. Russian culture is khazar-mongol.
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>>534318567
Ok what does that have to do with my statement that piss skins aren't human?
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>>534318637
>What a nice day to just lay down on your back in the middle of Crocus City Hall
>Oh hello my ethnically diverse dagestani tovarich how are you g-ACK
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>>534318538
the tragedy of the french race
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Saint Pidorsburg with a red air alert, looks like drones came through the baltics again ))))
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>>534318637
This one is fake, there's no subway in Belarus. We travel either on foot or tractor.
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>>534317928
Shy and nerdy Asian cuties force sex upon the white man
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>
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hohol anons ITT, how do you celebrate zigger-communist burning day today?
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TZD
is telegram banned in russia yet?
haven't kept up with the war for a while
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Whenever I feel down I remind myself that there are losers so mentally ill they shill for pidorstan.
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>>534318852
it is indeed, and the ban caused lots of extra cubing at the front too
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>>534316685
I cannot put into words how much i hate natoniggers and their propaganda.
>haha when we get rid of nato we hecking will live the european dream.
filled to the brim with niggers, because the young ones died in the war.

this war will be lost no matter how it will go.
don't care or like any of these slavic savages.
poles/czechs are the last slavs i even recognize as european, the rest are barely human to me.
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>>534318767
>But anon, any white Slavic citizen of puccia and belocucks is a confused Ukrainian or Pole.
>What about the talk about Russia and Belarus being even more cucked than the West? Now you've swapped your pathetic tactics for an even more pathetic one. Don't call Belarusians cuckolds, you castrated slave
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lmao Hallemöngi snorted too much meph again and came to visit
no pidorposting under my flag pls
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>>534318767
>What a nice day to just lay down on your back in the middle of Crocus City Hall
You have finally proven that you have brown skin
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>mearshie had to get a gook
couldn't even get a regular girlfriend, so sad
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>>534319003
>>534319052
lmao seething nigger fag
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>>534317557
>subsist on hamster goulash
you should take a page from the new 2026 russian cookbook
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>>534318841
>Fuck the piss skins and make mischling children
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>vpn petuh cant keep track of which ip he's shilling from
grimdark
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>>534319008
Are these the trad aryans they keep telling us about?
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>>534318889
cool any cool new videos of ziggers getting cubed?
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>>534318739
>>534318767
Take a look at the western metro now? Do you feel the difference?
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>>534319135
he's an incontinent dog being hired to shit and piss at a certain place, I don't think he cares
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>>534319167
for me it's the NA BERLIN rocket jump
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>>534316808
I actually like the vatnik projoctor.
Requesting more.
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>>534318847
>French and German flags are white
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>>534319220
this one is my favourite zigga goes to space
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>>534319254
t.
post full hand and outlet with timestamp, Magomed
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>>534318322
bots are incapable of original replies
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>>534319273
Mine is the anime blood geyser decapitation drone
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>>534319273
>KOKLIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>534319254
Yeah let's see a hand and outlet with a timestamp "beer slav"
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>>534316685
Why do pro-ukraine poeple smell so bad? This protest went by and the smell of poop and BO was so bad I had to call the city.
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>>534317773
You still have hamsters?
We ate the last ones two years ago.
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>>534319342
>incapable of
More proof, asians have to steal my verbiage because they can't even think of their own
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>>534319167
he couldn't even do the "putin's kiss" on himself, since his hands were blown off as well.
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>>534319273
they fly so well
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>>534319220
Sick Quake 3 move
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>>534319347
>>534319350
they fly now???
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tee hee
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>>534319238
been a while since I made any OCs of this kind, gotta get meself inspired for more soon
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>>534319385
>>534319333
You should post your hands in every fucking thread, because the western flag is the same as the flag of a brown garbage dump
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>>534317379
That's how they treat the ballots? You want them to count and not get thrown away?

>>534319516
Take it as a compliment then.
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>>534319570
>can't do it
yep, verified brownie orc, probs a VPN turbochurka
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>>534319570
Why are you deflecting so angrily? You dont need to answer, I would be pretty angry all the time too if my skin was the same color as poop.
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>>534319657
>turbochurka
kek
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>>534319420
I have a feeling, call it a hunch, that you are neither white nor American. That your skin is the color of shit and emits a foul odor, your hair and eyes are black, you have no internal monologue and a compulsion for lying
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>>534319570
I accept your concession, you are not a beer slav, you're an asian with a VPN. More proof that asians are compulsive liars!
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>>534319657
why do you all always show women in positions of dominance over men?

ukraine supporters are dudes who create memes that try to emasculate other men. Not only is that weird/awkward but its also incredibly gay.

Its as if you are all a bunch of lesbians or something.
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>>534318970
How do you treat german rapebabies by soviets? Are they hafu still out demihuman already?
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>>534319689
>I would be pretty angry all the time too if my skin was the same color as poop.

Finns, who closely resemble ukrainians, are spiritually brown.

ukraine is the misplaced african nation located in europe.
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>>534319809
Could you bring back the original mearspidor, even if that requires collecting bits and pieces and some necromancy.
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>>534319689
>>534319657
Should I put my hand out and you shouldn't? I wonder why the brown dirty slugs?
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>>534318637
Didn't Luka sign an agreement with Pakistanis last year to mass import them?
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>>534319809
You sure you wanna call anyone effeminate while cheerleading puccians, the twinkest most lightweight and emasculated twinks to ever strut the Earth?
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>>534319803
Post your fucking hand
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churkoczech got found out and is seething
sad!
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>>534319750
post charging port, clanker
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>>534319930
>ukraine is the misplaced african nation located in europe.
Couldnt come up with anything that hasnt already been said about the russia?
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>>534319970
Why are they so often found lying on the floor? Is it a drone evasion tactic to lower their profile or are they actually napping and the drone rouses them from their slumber?
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>>534316685
TZD
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>>534320116
Where the fuck are your hands??? Jeets, goatfuckers, niggers
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>>534320202
you first
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>>534320058
>NO U
Yep confirmed
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>>534320202
bro, you ride the underground alongside all the other poor people, you have no right to order others around
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>>534320129
As long as these questions and statements remain unanswered, I will keep posting them. Simple as
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>>534319970
He's even using fallen branches as a pillow. Do they sneak about at night to sleep during the day?
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>>534319930
>Finns, who closely resemble ukrainians, are spiritually brown
That's a lie, fingols are closer to chinamen because of the great jaden tianshi exodus in 350 A.C.
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>>534320240
>>534320256
You fucking started this thread with your hands, you're the first. I'm waiting to see your hands, or are you really afraid to post skin the color of shit?
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>>534320277
Then why the fuck are you ordering me around? Put your hands out, I automatically have a white flag, not a western brown trash flag
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>>534318637
>golden horde mongoloid rape babies and their buffer state cucks
>white
nice joke, danetroon. when do you move to pidoria if it's so awesome and white?
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>>534320388
Ukropilled thread for an ukropilled board. I did nothing wrong.
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>>534320529
>>534320539
/uhg/ is a brown trash heap, you proved it yourself
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>>534319460
They fly now!
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>>534320291
Based asker of questions.
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>>534320670
t. churkoczech
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>>534320670
shut up nigger
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>>534320773
t. turkroachman
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>>534320818
truly puccner is a satanic muttmania
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>>534320818
shut up turkish rape baby
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>>534320388
You come here talking shit and then when you get called out you go on the defensive, that's rich!
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>>534320987
You started this topic about posting hands but you don’t want to post them yourself, you fucking jeets, niggers, goatfuckers
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>>534320933
Bulgarians are based, pic related
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>>534321113
You should go back to Bulgaria
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>>534321069
I could've posted my hand but I'm a bit shy.
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>>534321359
Are you also on the side of these niggers, jeets, goatfuckers? Ungrateful whore, kill yourself, you should pray to Lukashenko every day for saving Belarus from homosexuality and multiculturalism
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>>534321200
Why do you think I come from Bulgaria? I just think those posts are funny. They really capture the "friendship" between Serbia and Russia.
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>>534321515
But homosexuality and multiculturalism are beloved in the puccia, brownie.
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>>534320670
Only because you're here shitting the place up
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>>534321812
Because you are a bulgarian migrant
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>>534321813
AI
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>>534321956
Prove it. And even if I were, then there would be no need for me to leave the UK, as long as I were legally residing in the UK.
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>>534322023
lmao, you win the cope of the day award
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>>534321842
You brown trannies have attacked and ruined everything for us on /chug/ more than once. We should have done the same to you at least once
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>>534322130
>Implying you're not a self-healing mulatto yourself
Wew lad
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Self-hating*
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is he sick?
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>>534322220
>putin dying after failing to rebuild the soviet union and cement his name among russia's greatest leader, instead being know as the comically long table clown who humiliated and ruined it.
I fucking wish
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>>534322220
Much worse - he ran out of copes. Defeatism is spreading in the puccia. They now suffer the agonizing realization that we were right all along.
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>>534316685
>putin has now classified all decrees
What an odd thing to do...
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>>534321515
I'm on the anti-kike side. You can deduct the rest by yourself.
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I think Europe would be in a better place if the whole continent shared Poland's justified wariness of R*ssia
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>>534322161
Whiter than you, Muhammad
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>>534316685
There's nothing wrong with being a communist
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>>534322754
Lol no you're not and I can guarantee that
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>>534322781
Guz, get the helicopter. Another free ride has been won.
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I did a 50 mins pomodoro and you fags are still arguing with a commie homosexual using a czech VPN, jesus christ.
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>>534322902
I don't argue, I agitate.
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TzD
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>WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE SHOULDN'T KILL OFF ALL OUR MALES FOR ZOG AND DRAFT WOMEN TOO?
>WELL YOU MUST BE BROWN AND HAVE POOR ENGLISH SKILLS
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>>534323161
what lack of pussy does to a nigga
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>>534316871
Good for him.
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Ukraine is winning though
their manpower situation is stabilizing, a lot of Chadkrainian fighters will soon be demobilized and return to their families
unlike the poccnigger army, the AFU isn't shrinking
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>>534317772
>Do you find it funny how the mods delete offtopic threads, but the mods dont delete ontopic threads?
Truly mysterious times we live in
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>>534318238
Hey I that's the portable crane from Snowrunner.
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>>534319108
>table mouse
mother of Christ KEKAROOOOOOOO
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>>534319108
>>534323676
Nice find but it's 10 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xUxxOeUqYI
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>>534324212
I see, oh well, not really OP pic material then. Wish we had more insights into the undoubtedly dystopian circumstances inside the so-called DPR/LPR + ratmea.
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TzD
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the rusnig empire urgently need more meat for rations

send another 1000 homomongols to rush into drone fire on donkeys
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All anons died instantly. Crazy coincidence.
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tzd
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TUV (Total Ukrainian Victory)
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>>534325282
I'm lurking for more rare monkes
but also falling asleep, tormenting pidors is hard work
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>>534319635
>Russia counted them as 'Yes' anyway
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>>534325282
Incorrect
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>>534317541
just some brave workers from Norilsk taking their deserved Summer vacation on an Earthly paradise (by comparison)
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>>534324212
considering it's russia we're talking about, I wouldn't wonder if they would have stuff like that which was produced in 2016 still in their shops
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A daddy Holland mommy Russia would be the absolute solution-solution
Why would this be it....
Preparing to explain.
Also just think about it. Just the impression that may be just right. Nothing more what would happen. See the light I am sending you to.
The experience and also the English speaking ones (except from England. The neighbours here)
One would have to begin about it somewhere
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>>534325282
All ziggies will die.

TZD
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>>534325702
hue
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The Dutch thread in /pol/ in its own language.
Only one.
The aggression seems to be here...
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Also "daddy Holland"
Literally, Holland = a number of treaties, and not just bespoken established treaties.
Not just what so described et al
It would be nothing more, nothing less the whole world benefits equaly

>O gawd he says equally
What needs to be dealt with is THINGS blotted that no-one that be blotted.

Also will meet existing contracts concerning how the Kremlin or Putin.
Longer story. Anyhow the only current for more growth in ANY WAY THINKABLE.
However to see or put it.

In literally ANY way thinkable
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>>534326132
keeeeeeeeek
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>Germany took in Holland in ww2
>Typically Germany takes in Holland a daddy Holland mommy Russia
It is just how it is
>How it is how it is how it is
Be it not the same way
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What is meant here>>534326501
Holland simply won't care
They.simply.won't,care
THEY DON'T WE WON'T WE DON'T
gtfo
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Like simply being enabled to get the Russia everyone wants and wouldn't
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kek, food status ukranisisters?

>“The longest they went without food was 17 days. They weren’t listened to on the radio, or perhaps no one wanted to listen to them. My husband shouted and begged, saying there was no food and water,” she said, adding that the problem was bigger than just one case.
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And I am of Jankees
>Wat does this mean???
What is this going to mean
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>>534326990
Ukrainian commanders get dishonorably discharged for transgressions like this, moskal ones get medals and commendations. Just the difference between a civilized European and a quasi-human asiatic.
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Every American gets a copy of the yKPAIHCbKA NPAuA delivered in its original language right to their yurt every day.
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As thread's going a bit slow, i just wanna say i like UUVs and want to build one to drive it into a zigger tanker :)
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Ye all a bunch of clown in anli-speaking
Why not some neutral aux-language?
I can't even in (***) cunt enli, really
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>>534325282
I'm here, just tryna' be productive in between shitposting sessions
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>>534327198
It was linked from here dumbass... lol
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and leningrad is being visited by some friendly FP-1s
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10-12m seems to be the big boy range. 4weeks under water and whatnot.
However for a simple torpedo crawler to sink a simple tanker leaving kaliningrad? I'd say 6m is more than enough. No sensory extra gimmicks needed either.



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