Just a quick reminder: your god doesn't exist
>>534329112this fucking sucks. what if god wants to be evil? then you got to let him, after all he is god, he does as he pleasesif he is real he is definitely evil.
>>534329112gods in general dont exist. people made it up because it provides easy quick answers.
Why are you such a coward that suffering for 80 years in a crucible of the soul on a literal military campaign against evil in exchange for eternal paradise is too much to ask of you? Do you have no will to power or vigor for life? What does it actually mean to be human to you - heroism, bravery in the face of evil, loyalty, love, friendship, benevolence, justice, so on? How many of these aspects would either be totally impossible or have their substantial meaning be drastically reduced if not for the fall of man putting us in the state we are currently in? Why do you believe that you know what is good for you better than the omnipotent being that created you in the first place and you knew infinitely before you were ever even born?
>>534329112Some of you remember me constantly posting these posts.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528529495/#q528534771https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528529495/#q528534871Adam, Eve and Satan challenged God's sovereignty. Satan accused Jehovah of bribing Job in exchange for loyalty. Christianity is meant to answer those challenges. That's all.>What is it meant to accomplish?To prove three things:>Satan is a liar>Humanity cannot govern themselves>Humans will be loyal to God in return for nothing.>Was is the solution to all the world's problems?After God is satisfied with those issues thoroughly being answered and accomplished he will bring Armageddon to earth. A one world government ruled by Jesus Christ as king. That regime is simply called God's Kingdom
>>534329572Humanity wasn't meant to suffer. We were not meant to grow old, get diseases, disorders, be imperfect, and live in poverty, pollution, crime, injustice and sadness. Adam and Eve were put in an environment of perfection and Paradise. Pic related, is how Humanity was meant to live.
>>534329277This chart is for the Jewish/Christian/Muslim/Mormon/Whatever God, the abrahamic good which is>Omnipotent>Omniscient >and Omnibenevolent If God is NOT Omnibenevolent (All good/incapable of evil) then the paradox is resolved
>>534329277Sneed's Feed & Seed (formerly Chuck's)
>>534329112>doesn't know the definition of evil>yet accuses God of being evil>Let's just pretend I know what absolute good and evil is better than God :^)wow you came up with a universal definition of good and evil that is beyond reproach? Damn how come we haven't achieved world peace yet then. the whole thing falls flat once you realize it relies on the arrogance and pride of the atheist that he actually gets to define absolute good and evil for the entire human race, something even the best philosophers and brightest minds of humanity has never achieved.Just another kike trying to get people to stop calling him the synagogue of satan no doubt.
>>534329277why are you arguing with a shitstain
>>534329572>Letting children be tortured, raped and murdered is part of a bigger plan.
>>534331098Do you have an actual structured epistemic rebuttal to the paradox or not?
>>534331327Why does it matter in the grand scheme of things when the end result is eternal paradise? You can balk at this all you will but I have never had someone actually answer this within a framework of God and eternal paradise definitely existing. Profound evil exists in this world yes and it is our grave, divinely sanctioned duty to combat it by all possible means; but even when it does happen due to people's failures to protect others, why do you think anyone will care about what happened to them in this life when they are in literal eternal paradise? This life is not even a fraction of a fraction of a nanosecond in comparison.
>>534329112The idea that god is "all knowing" really does make a lot of issues for christians, because they now have to explain why the god of the bible seems to act like he's not all-knowing, like when he tested Job by killing his family which is not something an all-knowing god would need to do. Or why he tells King Saul to genocide the amalekites and then is upset when King Saul doesn't kill them all which is god was all-knowing would have known beforehand what King Saul would do.
>>534329277He is not. >>534329903 It's just that certain issues were brought up and he allowed evil and suffering to exist TEMPORARILY. Humanity will soon be brought out of this misery into Pic related >>534330005 Then pic related will happen as well.
>>534331641God's selective foreknowledge is only associated in the Bible with free will and the freedom of humans to make choices whether good or bad. Not the inability to see the future but censoring himself from people's individual choices. .These verses below give people the freedom to choose right from wrong and either obey or disobey.>De 30:19, 20; Jos 24:15Here Jehovah admits lack of knowledge of specific individuals or people based on their choices or future choices.>Genesis 22:12; Genesis 11:5-8; Ge 18:20-22; Exodus 3:7; Joshua 22:22; Psalm 14:22Here you can hurt God's feelings for the bad choices you make. It is not possible to get your feelings hurt when you knew and allowed someone in the future to do something you WANTED to happen. So it's obvious God censored himself from these people's choices and as a result they hurt his feelings AFTER they committed their wrong deeds.>Hebrews 3:16; Ephesians 4:30; Psalms 78:40,41; Genesis 6:5-6Here you can make God REGRET!! Regret is only possible when a certain outcome you expected results in something unexpected. God had certain expectations for people but instead he felt regret after their actions changed those expectations. God cannot make mistakes but those around him can AND DO!! As a result they can make him regret their existence or position he put them in.>1 Samuel 15:10,11; Gen. 6:5, 6; Jonah 3:4-Jonah 3:10; Jer. 15:5, 6.ConclusionJehovah's selective foreknowledge is based only in free will and making good or bad choices. Outside of that he can see everything.
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>>534331327Trust the plan fellow christcuck.2 more millennia.
>>534331929Jehovah just chooses not to see the futures of individuals BY CHOICE. Its the equivalent of your parents respecting your privacy growing up when they stayed out of "your" room, drawers and closets. Remember that "your" room is really theirs since they own the house. However, out of love and to show you they trust you they gave you your own personal space and let you manage it on your own without them constantly monitoring you and flipping your mattress over every day like a prison cell. They chose to risk you doing something wrong or hiding something bad in there.God did the same thing. He chose to respect your privacy(future) by censoring himself of it
>>534329112The basis of this argument is false. Evil does not really exist. Just like shadow is a lack of light, evil is a lack of goodness. This lack of goodness is due to the ability to make our own decisions. And the only way to compel choosing good is to remove free will. It is not about choosing evil, but not choosing good.
>>534331969We are actually at the end now. Pic related.
>>534332059>it's the end-times for real this time>trust the plan>2 more weeksYawn
>>534332155We are at the bottom of the feet.
>>534329112God doesn't stop the evil since it's people that are evil. God saves the good from more evil. You wouldn't understand as someone from the global south.
>>534329112You don't understand free will and purpose. Shame. Keep thinking. Stay in silence for a whole day. No distractions. SILENCE.
>>534329112Its very obvious that the god of Abraham doesn't exist, its been 2000+ years of pure cope.>b-but if the universe exists then something created it and thats god!Is not proof of an omni-benevolent god who gives a shit where you stick your penis. >YOU'RE GOING TO HELLyawn
>>534332680This shit is why Judeao Masonry is incompatible with Orthodoxy and Catholicism. Go read Maccabees dumbass.
>>534329112It's a bullshit strawman flow chart. You go from asking "Yes" and "No" questions (which is fine), but the responses to the arguments are all stuff you wrote yourself.Thus; the reader, if following your conversation chain, has no choice but to chose a path that you argue on their behalf, even if those responses are dumb as shit.The debate will ALWAYS end up with the reader sounding retarded, because the person who created the flow of the debate is a fucking retard himself.
>>534331929>>534332015So he's not actually all-knowing. In fact he's very far from knowing anything since he knows nothing about what humans may do which makes up most of what's interesting in history and what God seems to take an interest in.The "all-knowing" here seems limited to knowing where rocks will roll to and such.
>>534333540So write your own answer that makes sense. The namefag tried.
>does God want to prevent evil?>no>stop there because you can't apply base human logic to a completely alien higher dimensional beingWow, paradox solved, so hard
>>534333724He doesn't know BY CHOICE, not inability. >>534333510Apocryphal nonsense.
>>534329277no there's a logical flaw in that chart.>>534331374yes: you are the 'evil' in god, and he allows you to exist out of love.the "then god is not good/not loving" branch is a fallacy.>>534331098evil is merely 'disunity', not "bad" as we typically interpret it.see 'unity' (the instantaneous container of all possibilities) must necessarily also contain 'disunity', however 'disunity' cannot occur in a state of unity.so disunity necessarily perceives itself as separate and apart; this is the cause of the "illusion" of the "simulation", but it's merely The God ("monad") unconditionally loving the disunified portions of it's own infinity.
>>534329112Have a half assed deboonker image.God bless, Hylic.
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