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>men without degrees built the best buildings and Churches across the globe
Its why libs claim to love brutalism, they dont actually like it they simply arent capable of building anything that isnt completely devoid of soul
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Is Brutalism soulful or soulless, /pol/? Even during the byzantine days there was the Baroque Iconodule versus the Austere Iconoclast, we have to decide
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>>534355127
Brutalism is soulful but the soul is a dark corrupted Jewish soul that wants the world to suffer.
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that's dumb, they had a whole guild of extremely skilled people on those jobs.
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>>534355127
Soulless. It reflects the barren imagination of the jew
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>>534355042
ill say the same thing i have been saying for years now:
a degree doesnt mean you are smart
it means you sat in a room and filled out paper work according to someone
elses instructions on what to write down
then you get a little certificate that says you can “work”
so you use your certificate to get a bullshit job
because we only let people with degrees have those
and just because you got “the job” that doesnt suck
and women see you as an exploitable resource
rather than an invisible ugly
still doesnt mean you are smart or you deserve nicer things than your peers
all it means is that you are a compliant order follower
nothing more than that
i dont ever want to hear a colllege
fag get all high and mighty ever again
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>>534355235
You mossed the point jeet
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>>534355235
college is a bunch of drooling retarda patting each other on the back
and dunking on white man bad
its a joke
serious people dont take it seriously
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>>534355235
That's precisely the point.
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>>534355127
soulless but it was a necessary evil. The 20th century was the era of mass migration of the countryside to the cities. Even the commieblocks of the eastern block were built due to thr need to house millions quickly after ww2's destruction.
Since most countries are urban now I hope we can finally go back to constructing beautiful buildings
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>all that time, effort, money and energy spanning decades

>just to worship jews

are europeans just born goycattle
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>>534355042
Men with too much time on their hands built this.
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>>534355042
Without degrees but were raised into it from a child
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>>534355042
The leftist is an evil sexual degenerate pedophile rights advocate hell bent on bean incompetent and lazy-cowards while bilking the money from those that are not. If you are a leftist you are a puke.
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>>534355042
>men without degrees
Nonsense. The mason guilds were very much involved in teaching.
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>>534355331
sucks they missed out on modern progressive education
imagine what they would have accomplished if they
learned about feminism and racism
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>>534355307
Why do jews HATE Jesus Christ more than anything?
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>>534355127
Iconoclasm looks like there's spirits coming out of the mortar so you'd have to biased to say it's wrong
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>>534355042
men with years and years of training built that
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>>534355408
its amusing that peope are conflating modern college
with training or education in this thread
thats amusing but i guess its a predictable sunk cost fallacy
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>>534355408
You are SO close to getting it
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>>534355235
White men become skilled at anything they do.
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>>534355127
>Iconoclast
Cucks influenced by the muslimniggers and were either useful idiots or crypto Muslims
>Iconlatres
Christianised remnants of the pagan rome and hellas that actually were the best of both worlds and did not break icons or statues of art bcs it is forbidden.
Yesh i think the iconsimps are both more socially cohesive and respectfull of culture comparable to redacted proto cancel puritan race/religion traitors.
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>>534355042
Brutalism is a flower pot. If you don't grow anything on it, you're left with something inherently incomplete.
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>>534355394
>christcuck poster out of nowhere
Is that why jews pay you jewsus pastors to shill for israel? Jesus enslaved the white race
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>>534355042
The claim in the tweet that “people without degrees built it” is simplistic and misleading. The construction of the basilica took over a century (1549–1646) and was led by the greatest architects and sculptors of the time, including Gabriele Riccardi, Francesco Antonio Zimbalo, and Cesare Penna. While they did not have “academic degrees” in the modern 21st century sense, they were expert artists who had undergone extensive and in-depth training within rigid professional guilds.
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>>534355520
Looks like crap regardless of it being flowery or not.
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>>534355042
masonry doesnt have degrees? how about the ancient Egyptians and Babylonians? did they have doctorates given out at universities?
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>>534355307
Yes we must RETVRN to hanging people from trees and throwing little children down wells, Wotan (pbuh) must be sated with little Aryan child blood once more.
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>>534355560
The whole point being made is these people were immensely skilled experts as a result of an educational dynamic that was completely divorced from the idea of sitting in a classroom for 4 years so you can get your piece of paper. Abolish colleges. Bring back guilds.
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>>534355042
>Men without jews built this

FTFY
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>>534355657
true my journeyman meat cutting skill is much more valuable
than a gender studies degree
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>>534355657
According to you
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>>534355235
Yeah but guilds are very different from universities and more closely resemble modern day apprenticeships and traineeships (although this is still not a perfect comparison).
There is definitely an over reliance on the university system for tertiary education in our society. Universities developed as a means for developing intellectual pursuits. Philosophy and theology, which at the time encompassed what we think of today as science, which is how these institutions came to be critical in more vocational fields like medicine and law etc.
But is university really the best mode of tertiary educations for all or even the majority of professional vocations? Perhaps applying a trainee/apprenticeship model to some professional careers would be more efficient and less expensive. I mean uni is great if you're parents are paying for your lifestyle but if not it kinda sucks to spend 4 years struggling to survive on part time entry level income while spending 30 hours a week trying to keep up with course work, when anywhere from half to 100% of what you learn will be irrelevant to the job you end up with.
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>>534355704
>study worthless reality bending sophistry
>ITS WORTH IT DAMMIT BECAUSE I SAY IT IS
cool story
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>>534355042
You need (((Compliance and Submission))) to be success member of our (((modern))) society
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>>534355657
Not everything can be taught exclusively with direct hands on experience. Generalizing, blue collar jobs and STEM are deeply interwoven into each other but are still two completely different fields with different learning approaches for a reason.
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>>534355704
Uh, no, according to you.
>While they did not have “academic degrees” in the modern 21st century sense, they were expert artists who had undergone extensive and in-depth training within rigid professional guilds.
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>>534355784
Strong disagree. I have an EE degree, but so much of what I know was just uncontextualised memorization until I actually started working as a controls engineer. There's no reason why I should have had to sit down and learn all this trash off by heart for 4 years with nothing to apply it to and THEN go and try to start applying it.
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>>534355127
Look at obamas library as proof my thread is correct
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>>534355042
It doesn't change the fact that it was designed by people with 130+ IQ which you usually find in the STEM degrees of the universities.
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>>534355042
>obese flyover retards who dropped out of high school to make $19.33/hour at a canned dog food factory equating their inability to perform academically with masters of their trade who were hand-picked after a lifetime of artistic achievement
COLLAGE AND DEGREES IS FOR LEFTISTS AND TRANNYS
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Pity lots of the old ones keep catching on fire during renovations.
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>>534355250
>compliant order follower
it means you are able to follow complex instructions and maybe (depending on the pay grade) make small judgement calls
like a taco bell manager basically
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>>534355042
Given the glib use of degrees, it's worth mentioning what a master mason is and what the mystery of the cathedrals is.
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this is the basilica de santa croca. skilled artisans built it over a century, often spending their entire lives on the one single project. the next generation of artisans were taught by the last for years, effectively giving them a degree.

it was designed by a jew, niccolò mata, which is why there's a giant star of david in the facade on the other side.
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>>534356087
i never knew stone burned so easily
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>>534355394
esau gambit

christian persecution fantasy
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>>534355394
there's literally a star of david on the other side of the church in op's image >>534356630

you do in fact, worship jews, in jewish buildings
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>>534355042
Anon because they don't got them papers those people where highly trained men who fucking worked in guilds who trained them from fucking birth to this shit till they die.
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AI built them.

And it's complicated... all of it. Now, then, future, now!
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>>534355042
total bs. they had to go through difficult apprenticeships before they were allowed to work on this, formal degrees may not have been a thing but they had to go through what was effectively one. they didnt pick some random pauper off the street and tell him to design and build a spire
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>>534355042
Men without degrees did this
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>>534355042
>>men without degrees built the best buildings and Churches across the globe
No they didn't. We can't build like that today. Those are buildings from the all world and history is a lie.
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>>534355328
Men with high tech machinery built that.
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>>534357018
They even had fucking decrees OP do your research man
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>>534357102
>>534357081
wow you're even more retarded than OP
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>>534357102
AI with women and men and high tech machinery build that! And, some magic that is indistinguishable from technically and vice versa.
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>>534355042
Truth nvke
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>>534355704
you people are so effortlessly detestable at every given chance with stupid fucking undermining comments like these, it should really be studied at this point
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>>534355229
>Jewish soul
No such thing, all jews are soulless beasts.
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not true, medieval architects were almost certainly of the noble or mercantile classes and would have a classical education including euclidean geometry necessary for the calculations and measurements involved, they were absolutely a separate class from the stonemasons they were instructing
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>>534355394
Because he beat them at their game (lying) and it infuriated them. When being crucified the Romans asked him who he was, and he sarcastically said he was the king of the Jews. He did it to bring attention to them, using their own weapons (lying) to beat their only defense (hiding).

It's been thousands of years and they're still mad about losing.
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>>534355487
The point is that it used to be "can you do this?" and not "we're hiring niggers for the quotas"
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>>534355307
Who makes this garbage?
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>>534355884
wrong you need to learn how to think properly, that is what the degree is for
also some fields like EE are so broad there is no way most 18 year olds would know what they want to end up as
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>>534355042
>men without degrees
>master builders
>three decades of experience
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>>534355331
Also, they had the equivalent of degrees, like apprentice, journeyman, master, etc.
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>>534357624
(((properly))) hahahahaha
“Thinking properly” means accepting jewish indoctrination without question.
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>>534355736
>>534355806
Show me where I said that
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>>534357168
>memeflag shill immediately tries to shut it down
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>>534357928
Imagine believing they built that without high tech tools.
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>>534355042
What did women build, chat?
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>>534358203
he means exposure to engineering theory. what do you do for a living -- some sort of manual labor for an hourly wage?
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>>534359245
Chisel and stone is all a determined Man needs.
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>>534359218
>act like a retard
>get called a retard
>think thats proof that youre right because theyre trying to shut you down
classic schizo reasoning
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>>534355536
>>534356846
>>534357502
>still seething 2000 years later
You will never stop, right?
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>>534355127
brutalism is kino surrounded by life elements
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>>534355560
Okay kike will give you that.
Same reason places in Brazil, Dubai, India or chink or sea monkey lands all have impressive buildings - stadiums, skyscrapers all built in the modern White way.
The leadership to plan and design the buildings is White specialists, but they use nonwhite subhumans to do the labor. Then the nonwhite trash will say "yes we did it all ourselves we're equal."
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>>534355307
there you are saying the wrong thing again
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>>534355520
It's true. Gray concrete and stone buildings get that extra something if they are combined with green.
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>>534355270
>>534355283
>>534355290
>>534355716
Masters of arts are equivalent in education to masters of science you fucking idiot zoomers.
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>>534355042
>across the globe
This is another false teaching taught in universities. We live on a flat plane.
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>>534355042
>OP doesn't has a degree
>hasn't build anything in his pathetic life
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Men who never even went to an organized School built that
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>>534361634
>Men who never even went to an organized School built that
this is 1300's italy, they would have had apprenticeships from master builders and architects and learnt geometry and design principles as part of a guild, which was effectively a school. they weren't just random men off the street.
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>>534362018
Yes, apprenticeships and on the job experience are infinitely better at training new workers than any university. The modern university system is a scam and serves as a paid indoctrination system more than a career preparation service.
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>>534357018
>tf
>tp
genuinely curious to know if you're a greasy chaser or unaware
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>>534362018
Random men off the street could join the guild and get jobs

Today you pay for a degree and maybe get a job
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>>534355127
Nigger
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>>534355042
blacks built that. undoubtably.
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>>534360243
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>>534361130
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>>534355641
You're thinking of YHWH
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>>534362255
Did you vote for Baroque Obama or are you a Brutal Legend?
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>>534362227
>Random men off the street could join the guild and get jobs
italian architects didn't want to teach grown men, they wanted prime, mouldable boipucci for the benefits
if you were a grown man already and still needing a job, it's over
there was no such thing as a man looking for a job, because that is a man who is already dead
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>>534360243
>worshipping the bronze age jefferey epstein
what the fuck is wrong with christcucks?
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>>534362558
Trump is baroque, Obiden is eclectic.
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>>534355042
Its called rule of thumb.
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>>534355042
Why does the right like to pretend master craftsmen with years of training and schooling are dumb uneducated hicks? They were learned men.
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>>534355042
These are Tartarian buildings. We didn't build them, we found them.
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>>534355641
>>534355307
here's your attempts to "restore paganism", you who would crucify Christ

>resistance in the frankish realm (6th century)
occasional revolts, no meaningful attempts to overthrow christianity.

>Eadbald of kent (616-640)
after his father's death, he denounced christianity, expelled the priests, and went back to pagan practices.
a few years later he changed his mind, and went back to being a christian.

>Wilduking, saxon rebellions (772-804)
pagan revolutionaries repeatedly destroyed churches and worshiped "the old gods". the rebellions were crushed, followed by mass executions, and the rebellion leader Wilduking converted to christiantiy.

>Vladimir Rasare (889–893)
his father came out of retirement (from a monastery), gathered loyal soldiers and deposed him. blinded him, and threw him in a dungeon. before retiring back to his monetary, he put in charge his youngest son Simeon (who was being trained to become a priest), which started the bulgarian golden age.

>scandinavian revolts (10th-11th century AD)
cultist rebellions put down by kings Harald Bluetooth, Olaf I & II. christian military victories on land and sea.

>volkhv uprising in russia (1024-1071)
pagan druids/volkhv demand a return to paganism. put down by princely forced, leaders executed.

>Blot-Sweyn of sweden (1084–1087)
deposed the christian king Inge the elder, because he refused to perform pagan sacrifices. Inge returned with an army and killed Sweyn by burning him alive.
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>>534362414
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>>534355042
> tartarian buildings
That's another civilization, anon.
Ours claim it's the same, but it's clearly different, isn't it? Different buildings, different values, different societies.
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>>534362743
>"“But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
- Matthew 18:6
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>>534355250
Funniest part is college mandated covid vaxsneeds for your piece of toilet paper degree.
Only the goodest goys and nigger cattle go to jewish schools.
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>>534363132
Protection of the jews
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>>534356846
>>534356930
Its really jewish of you that you spiritual niggers can can never answer the question. Probably because it would destroy your retard absolutist narrative.
>>534357502
This is the best atheist answer. Jesus outjewed the jews and ultimately took away their divinity. Not a single fucking soul on this board can top that. Faggots desperately wanting to be the most far right nigger on here can't.
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>>534355042
All of those retard are missing the point. Ithose buildings were build by extremely educated and skilled people, the difference is that people and power were ready to pay to have those beautiful buildings built, nowadays it’s all about cutting cost and fast building
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>>534362743
>what the fuck is wrong with christcucks?
narcissism, essentially. they want to feel that they're important enough that angels are watching them, that the creator of the 93 trillion light year observable universe has a plan for them and is looking forward to meeting them, that they're going to a magical heavenly place where they'll live forever and never be able to die. telling them otherwise provokes the same response as telling an anorexic bpd victim that she isn't actually fat and nobody is staring at her.
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>>534355641
Let’s back to killing little aryan Balt or burning young women to the stake then, let’s not forget murder little Czech and Occitan
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>>534363315
Retard fell for an Ezau gambit! Laugh!
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>>534363158
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>>534363094
Yeah, christkikes killed europeans while protecting jews, what's new
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>>534363315
both matthew and luke trace his lineage through the jews, through david, the king of israel, the king of the jews, right there in the bible.

the bible also tells us that he was circumcised on the 8th day, a tradition that only jews partook in, that he celebrated passover and other jewish festivals that were only observed by jews, that he hung around in jewish synagogues, whether turning the tables or teaching, that when judas kissed him he called him 'rabbi', that the inscription the romans made for his capital punishment reason was 'king of the jews'.

the bible teaches us that in the future he is to return to earth in a solid gold copy of jerusalem, which will descend from the skies over judea, and he will live on earth in israel for 10,000 years with the 144,000 most faithful jews who followed him closely and forewent marriage and women. this is the revelation.

we know all of this because it was written down by his first 12 followers, who were all practising jews. we know all this because yeshuaic messianism was founded and spread by these 12 jews, then 30 jews, then 100 jews, then 200 jews, and so on.

he is the most famous jew of all time and is forecast by your own book to return to judea and live with jews. some jews hate him in the same way that some americans hate ted bundy. it doesn't mean that ted bundy wasn't an american.

read your own jewish authored book and shh. if you're going to point out more passages written by practising jews, your entire narrative falls in on itself, but you're welcome to try.
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>>534363094
You could add to the list so- called "pagan reaction" in the Kingdom of Poland in 1030.
Basically a war between feudal lords over the throne combined with peasant uprisings, with paganism used as a propaganda prop by one of pretenders.
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>>534361375
>Masters of arts are equivalent in education to masters of science
in what way?
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>>534356846

The pic you posted is Jew cope and/or Jew wishful thinking or muddying the waters.

The only 1st century Jewish group to survive to today are the Pharisees. You can tell by their Talmud that they hate Christianity.

Hell, the Talmud talks about how around the mid 30's AD their Jewish magic and temple miracles stopped working, before it's final distraction in 70 AD.
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>>534355716
thats what universities are you fuckin morons. first you study theory, then you do apprenticeships. just admit you people were too stupid for school and now think vaccines cause autism cos alex jones told you.
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>>534355042
Tartarians built these things, no bathrooms or kitchens, they had indoor plumbing systems at the time these were built, these were built before the mud floods
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>>534355042
Soulless people cannot create anything beautiful
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>>534357168
Tartaria was highly advanced
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>>534355042
Thats a church, the house of the sand nigger god aka the gay orgy centre.
Show the functional and socially responsible houses of average plebs in the same era.
What? You can't!
Thought so Mohammad
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>>534355042
It’s literally Tartaria. Look how they’re erasing Palestine and Lennon of Google and Apple Maps. It’s literally what they did with Tartaria.
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Not only. It was meds. The true gods of Europe. Anglosaxons haven't done shit besides pollute the earth with engines and plastic.
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>>534355520
To be fair, showing a dressed-up Flakturm, which was a WW2 concrete fortress built to protect Berlin, does not do brutalism any justice. It is not brutalist architecture, but a renovated bunker.
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>>534363754
>early Christians were all jews back then, same as modern jews
Instead of typing all that you could have said "My IQ is around 80" and would have said the same thing.
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>>534355042
>without degrees
That's a strawman, the men who built this had formal education, and a lot more experience than a freshy graduated architect with a degree.
>they dont actually like it
But they do, they genuinely learn to love the ugly, to hate themselves and love the other.
The same way they conquer their natural revulsion towards degeneracy and homosexuality and ugliness and consider it a triumph of their intellect over primal instincts.
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>>534364263
>tf
>tp
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>>534355042
Principal-level civil/environmental engineer here,

Churches like these were built over hundreds of years. Multiple generations of stone masons would be utilized for that facade.

As for the structural work, churches like these were fairly primitive. They used thick masonry and timber columns, close spacing, frequent expensive arches to minimize tensile and sheer stresses, and later when that became too costly, flying buttresses to permit slimmer curtain walls.

You didn't need degrees for this, only experience and training. Degrees allow you the time for focused study so you can understand millenia of engineering knowledge in 4 years. They also teach you how to build precisely, quickly, and most importantly, within the client's budget. Buildings like this cost the equivalent of tens of billions.
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>>534363754
>his accomplishments and the objectively good merits he tried fomenting in general society doesn't matter because he's a jew
>here's an extremely cherry picked minimal-context line from a passage in a book i refuse to read
Speaking of esau gambits, nobody takes you fags seriously anymore because you gave up your rationale to feel righteously indignant in a braindead absolutist cult. Even leftists don't actually give a shit about Israel and are merely copying you because, as it turns out, killing someone that fought for your 1A rights and then laughing about it is as socially acceptable as raping and killing a 5 year old in broad daylight. Ironically, you and those retards are interchangeable because you both are different flavors of bolsheviks, who btw were the group Hitler was actually targeting.
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>>534364825
>nobody takes you fags seriously anymore

you appear to be confused. do you think i'm a christian? christianity is declining rapidly in all civilised nations, and only retains a foothold in the third world. the continent where christianity is most popular is africa. the censuses from every modern country show a decade on decade rise of 'no belief' with a drop in avrahamic religions overall. it is therefore christfags who are no longer taken seriously, rather, as the gullible africans that they are. silly billy.

you should know this from the worldwide reaction to your presidents advisor screaming and chanting in israeli tongues for "angels from africa" to protect your president.
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>>534364825
You lost tranny
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>>534365198
umm swettie, do you think you can win by calling christians trannies? trannies are jesus approved in matthew 12, which suggests cutting off your balls for the kingdom of heaven is a good thing.

12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

if you read revelation, you'd know that heaven is full of 144,000 male jews with no balls who forewent women and marriage for jesus. it's called being a proud christian, ok?



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