You can't just pack up and leave because of a tax when your source of income is in your area. It's very difficult for anyone to find another job, and even if you could, it's a huge inconvenience to pack up and relocate your whole life just because of a tax. And even if they did, that would open up a whole bunch of job opportunities for others to take.
>>534356671the rich arent gonna pay shit, tax laws are made in a way so it only fucks poorfag retards into more poverty.
>>534356752>the rich arent gonna pay shit, tax laws are made in a way so it only fucks poorfag retards into more poverty.Poor and middle class people don't have any money to pay.Taxes by their very nature only hurt the greedy scumbags earning money because they're the ones who have money to tax. In America you don't even begin paying any tax until you're already making a metric fuckton of money.
>>534356816>Poor and middle class people don't have any money to pay.there is still plenty to squeeze out of them.meanwhile the richfags wont pay shit.
>>534356928>there is still plenty to squeeze out of them.Then they would be the wealthy>meanwhile the richfags wont pay shit.Why are they the only ones who pay taxes?
>>534356671Because shit is made up by forbes you financially illiterate nigger. There js literally nothing there to tax. And if you really go through with this your grandparents hosue is next. There is at least a hosue to tax
Because retards have been listening to boomer talk radio their whole lives and only have one talking point.>you cant tax the rich they'll just leave>you cant raise minim wage that'll cause inflation>you cant build houses next to me that'll cause my property value to go down>we cant import immigrants they dont assimilate >you cant legalize weed its a gateway drug>you cant forgive student debt its not fair to me who got my degree back when it cost a nickel >you cant do anything to help the poors because I don't care about my fellow man Its all so tiring
>>534357176It's funny how all of that has happened and then some. And now those rich cunts are opening data centers on our land because we told you none of what you are trying to do again works.
>>534357011>There js literally nothing there to taxYou're financially illiterate. The reason why you have no money is because you have no skills, you have no education, you don't understand science.You're what we call white trash. You have NOTHING of value internally or externally.>And if you really go through with this your grandparents hosue is next. There is at least a hosue to taxIf my grandfather was part of the Plutocracy and was able to take out a mortgage on a house then why on earth would he not be taxed too?Why are you dicksucking the plutocrats who have grandparents with houses? They won't give you shit. You're defending your own oppressor.
>>534356671>t's very difficult for anyone to find another jobif you have a "job"than you are not richthe "rich" have business interests and assetsleft doesnt understand this concept but feel qualified to smash the foundations of the economythe left have spent their entire lives destroying the concept of community and citizenship, so yes, the rich will pack up and move somewhere else with out a second thoughtso of course, the left will then hammer the not so rich to make up the tax short fallbecause thats how it worksevery time
>>534357176All of those examples are correct though. Being a commie faggot who is a burden on society would be tiring, I imagine.
>>534356671The reason people believe you can't tax the rich is because the rich can just say no and have an army of people to back them up and find a way around it. A lot of people who aren't rich but follow the rich do not want the same feeling of being chased after by other people and want their independence, no matter how much damage it does to themselves.The reason it's bad is not because of the general sentiment that you don't want to be chased or followed by paper and numbers, or even independence, but that you are actively hurting other people by your existence. It's on the other side of the pendulum as niggers who eat up and squander public resources.The thing is that the rich and these conservatives over time have created their own form of Christianity and metaphysics to justify their world, and it's kinda obvious to see how ugly it is on face value.
>>534357309If you have a job you are by definition rich. Assuming it's full time, minimum wage ensures you're paid at very least a wealthy income.You don't understand the concept of income, money, assets, and liability. When you have a job, you have income, you can use this income to purchase things like food, water, rent... the material things that wealthy people have.
>>534357365My family is very rich and we don't have an army of people to back us up.
>>534357376So you are a jobless bum looking to leech off people who aren't lazy losers. Got it.
>>534356671>In America you don't even begin paying any tax until you're already making a metric fuckton of moneywhat a retard. if you make $15k single or $32k married you have to file and pay taxes
>>534357499You're literally a dumb loser. You never went to Harvard, you never went to Yale. You're a non-academic bum who thinks he has the authority to talk on subjects when he's never received an education in his life.White trash who didn't go to Harvard or Yale have zero authority to speak on anything besides Nascar
>>534357562Metric ton literally means 1000, that's 1/15th the number you gave, retard.
>>534356671deus ex said it wellin 19xx companies were paying 50 percent taxnow they pay 5i dont see how we cant bring it backto acceptable numbers
>>534357417You can get one or even 10
>>534357616>thinks $1000 is a metric fuckton of moneyoh, youre poor
>>534357732Nope, we have bills to pay.>>534357756>He thinks $1000 isn't a ton of moneyOh you're a pedophile. Say hi to Epstein for me.
>>534357245Do not worry about my money. But I appreciate the gesture.> you have no skills, you have no education, you don't understand science.1/10 cope. There is no problem.> You're what we call white trash. You have NOTHING of value internally or externallyI am actually a black wominx of color, you should listen and learn > If my grandfather was part of the Plutocracy and was able to take out a mortgage on a house then why on earth would he not be taxed too?How about you just list your ass on craigslist as well? For free. Dominate me harder daddy government, oh god i love it so fucking hard> Why are you dicksucking the plutocrats Pointing out everythung is fake bullshit including your so called „billionaires“ is dicksucking? You are the expert so tell me more. Start explaining the intricacies of dicksucking for everyone pleaseThere are billionaires, you do not know their names. Destroy entrepreneurship to destroy a nation, we got it. You fags think you are smart. Yet you are still the same faggots, curious
>>534357848Then you're not rich
>>534356671>Why Do People Say You Can't Tax the Rich?because you can't tax the rich. the rich governs. governors do the taxing. how exactly are you going to tax the taxers?
>>534357887Learn economics. I studied economics, I studied finance. I know everything there is to know about the financial system.
>>534357939They're the only ones with money to tax, and they do not govern. The masses govern.>>534357901We're richer than rich.
>>534356671Washington will be interesting to watch. Isn't Starbucks already relocating?
>>534357848it isnt. its not a life-changing amount of money at all. describe how your life changes right now if $1000 drops into your lap
>>534357945Apparently you know shit. Another testimony to the futuiliy of so called „education“. If you are so smart, why dont you explain in every detail how your billionaires numbers are calulated? Under wich matress has heff bezos his billions exactly an how can we get acess to it? You know, to redistribute amongst the poor obviously. Assuming i don’t work at ikea, nigger?
>>534358098It's objectively lifechanging to both of us.You won't worry about your next meal, you'll be able to go buy food. If you buy rice and beans you'll be able to eat for another 111 days, that's four months of food.
>>534358016The rich don't have a concept of paying bills there are accountants and personal managers that take care of that. There is no way a bill can ever affect a rich person. By saying you have bills to pay means you are affected by those bills in real and life governing ways, which means you're not rich.Regardless, it's obvious that the rich need to be more charitable. There's no way to justify otherwise, it's just that they have "ascended" to a deformed form of humanity and have created a world to justify it, and from the outside it looks disgusting.
>>534358150Holy fucking shit you're retarded, and this is my proof. Bezos doesn't have that money under his mattress, his net worth is the market cap of all the companies he owns. It's his net worth which includes Amazon Stock, Uber Stock, Blue Origin (even though it's private), and any other outstanding assets he has (like houses, gold, bitcoin, whatever the fuck he has).I'm not even talking about taxing him though, I'm talking about taxing his employees who are making over 50-150k a year.
>>534357945And explain fractional reserve banking and fiat as well while you are at it, university boy
>>534356992You're a retardPoor people lose half of their insignificant pay cheque to taxes Rich lose some small %amount of change that happens to be larger because they're rich but ultimately still insignificant to them
>>534358186lmao. what a retarded reply.>doesnt answer the question and make assumptionsi dont worry about my next meal at all. i am not poor. describe how your life changes right now if $1000 drops into your lap
>>534358217>The rich don't have a concept of paying bills there are accountants and personal managers that take care of that. There is no way a bill can ever affect a rich person. By saying you have bills to pay means you are affected by those bills in real and life governing ways, which means you're not rich.Only rich people have bills, if you're not rich, no apartment will rent to you, and thus you won't even have bills because you'll have no apartment.
>>534358293So you can't be not rich and have bills? Am I getting that right?
>>534358266I knew this shit when I was 11 when the Occupy Wallstreet was happening and I got into Zeitgiest and Alex Jones Federal Reserve Conspiraices.It refers to the money multiplier, how banks expand the money supply by holding a portion of a deposit on hand and loaning the rest out. The money is essentially in two places at once, in the hands of the borrower (Who borrowed it) and the person who deposited it. If someone deposits $100 in a bank, and the bank loans $90 out... now both parties believe they have the money, the depositor has $100 and the borrower has $90. This process can repeat and the extent to which it repeats depends on the reserve requirements.>>534358269If a poor person got a paycheck they would be the rich. You're dumb and can't formulate a coherent argument.
>>534358262> his net worth is the market cap of all the companies he owns. It's his net worth which includes Amazon Stock, Uber Stock, Blue Origin (even though it's private), and any other outstanding assets he has (like houses, gold, bitcoin, whatever the fuck he has).Good think you also changed the memeflag. Otherwise this would be confusing. Exactly right! And what you posted should give you your own answer already. You are now at his‘ level: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MkyD-SvV3pcAnswer me: how are we gonna distribute this all amonst the poor? And be precise
>>534358271You're a moron who just makes assumptions.I'm wealthy and even I worry about my next meal.>>534358333Before I was wealthy my parents had to cosign my apartment.
>>534358434>Answer me: how are we gonna distribute this all amonst the poor? And be preciseTheoretically if you tax Bezos, you could tax his capital gains or his dividends. Even if he borrows against his shares, you could tax him at death where he's forced to realize all his unrealized gains. Many countries do this, it's only a few like America where you have the Step-Up basis which lets them bypass this. The Federal Government would use this money to fund programs.But again. I'm not talking about taxing Bezos, I'm talking about taxing his EMPLOYEEES
>>534358442>I'm wealthy and even I worry about my next meal.no youre not. youre just a sad poor zoomie>I was 11 when the Occupy Wallstreet was happeningi'm going to come laugh at the rest of your retarded replies later
>>534356671people say this because they're mentally buck broken. they recognize that the police and brutalize and murder the lower classes but it's LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the same to happen to the rich.
>>534358217>There is no way a bill can ever affect a rich personbezos pays $12k a year in city fines for his illegal hedge fence. he probably doesnt even know this is happening lmao
>>534358510You're a pedophile creep lol
>>534356671Its why you need a socialist revolution where you just claim everything they own and split it. Owners get to keep 10% and 90% should be divided between the workers. First 10 years a 15/85 split is also fair. Jews will never allow redistribution of wealth tho. Why do you think the jews spent the last century eradicating socialism? Lol.
>>534358507Why should he get the capital out if you just going to tax him? Smart thing is to leave it. Regulations change. Anyway, ignore this.The federal government is like a drug addict, the more it gets, the more it needs. But surely the solution is just to throw more money at it. This time it must work. We must believe hard enough and try againI believe your intentions are good. But you need to realize you are opening a can of worms that cannot be sealed ever again. Once the fictive money can get taxed, it’s over. Because this fictive money will run dry quickly (it was never real) and they are coming for (YOU)r stuff next, I dont need to cite studies from France about wealth taxes I hope. Collective worker actions is nothung bad, but there is a habd that feeds, and we have been feeding of imaginary things for way too long, there is no way this works out. You just decapitate the whole system by introducing another fairytale imaginary tax onto so called „billionaires“ (they would love that, because they are actors, acting for a reason)
>>534356752You can only hurt the foundation so much though. So tax them, tax them to death and when they bail or they act like greedy fags and push too much burden on the population, erect other institutions to replace them.
>>534356671They put all their money in assets or leave it in their company.
>>534358751The entire point is to tax the employees. Employees are getting all the money and they're hoarding it.>>534359020Honestly I don't even care if the end result is good. I just want to get revenge on all the people who have jobs, all the people who are employees.I have spent my whole life seeing privileged scumbags get jobs, and they think they deserve everything for it. It would be nice to see them lose it.And im not even innately socialist, i think in a free market these people wouldn't have jobs, I would have a job in a free market since I'm willing to work far harder and far far less.
>>534359382>I just want to get revenge on all the people who have jobs, all the people who are employees.A s there we have it. Pure aversion. Did the screens tell you this? They never tell the truth. It‘s not easy to make it, but it’s (still) possible. Taking away the possibility for everyone won‘t make a single thing better for anyone involved. It‘s ok, take some more time to think. Take time to think about the actual point of the funny game we call economy. You can do it
>>534356671The rich feed a propaganda machine that warps the weak minded. Do you think conservatives really believe rich people are better than them?
>>534359553Can't I just push to raise income taxes? That will take away money from all the people with jobs who I don't like
>>534359619I don't get this meme, the guy on the right is the rich, he has all the cookies. Look at how much construction people get paid, they have all the money, they're hoarding all the wealth.
>>534359666 these digits>Can't I just push to raise income taxes?
>>534356671If California actually wanted to solve their homelessness and poverty issues, they'd repeal proposition 13, heavily raise taxes on land, and eliminate taxes on improvements. This would result in a massive boom in housing construction, but all the rich democrats would lose out on their home values, so they'll never do it.
>>534356671>rich>having a job>your source of income isn't dividends or some other passive income method that you can collect while sipping champagne and sitting on your arse on your yacht in the bahamasit's very easy when the source of income isn't in your area though. as if richfags actually have to work.
The last time the US debt exceeded its GDP, we taxed the richest people fairly.They all remained rich, and the debt was fixed.
>>534358621If they increased the fines they would quickly find that entire city government would be replaced next election.
>>534357245>be billionaire>put all income and property into a trust>in the eyes of the law I own nothing and am taxed like a pauperand you accuse others of being financially illiterate.
>>534359788If you have a job you're rich, people with jobs are making cash every day.>>534359955When you draw from the trust, you'll be taxed.You are financially illiterate, you're also historically and scientifically illiterate. You don't have a post-secondary education in anything
>>534359666You can, but answer first: Whats the governments job in principle? To gradually bereft those who they are supposed to serve of the fruits of their labour? Yes, then you can raise the income tax indefinitely. Why does government even have a right to exist? Elon musk makes a dollar per year by the way, how hard do we want to tax him? 0.75 pennies per dollar looks excessive in my opinionHave some sympathy anon, they are only just able to finance their lifestyle (the things you see on your screens) by basically giving their shares to some funny bank in the city of london (not the same as london, England)
>>534360034Ideally to protect property rights, but we don't live in a free market where these ideals take place.The people with jobs don't have them because they deserve them, people with jobs are just those with the best connections to the Epstein
>>534360119The general job of the economy is to satisfy the desires of the peoples partaining in the same game. They ecchange labour for labour. There cannot be an economy withiut the labour.I remember mark zuckerberg lost dozens of billions in a day due to some news (cambridge analytica? - good rabbit hole btw) where did the fucking money go? This whole display is fake. And you are wasting your time and energy even thinking about it, especially getting all emotional and calling me names. See through this shit, now!
>>534360324The people with jobs are those who are breaking the laws, people only are getting jobs through mafia blackmail.
>>534360119Epstein is one heir of a very peculiar banking dynasty, also worth throwing your eye - these names you never hearHis name was derived of a german village called Eppenstein.
>>534360437Who does the law serve? They would be stupid not to exploit every possibility they gotWhy is lawfare even a thing? Think, anon
>>534360530Right now it seems to serve the people with jobs, people with jobs have everything.
>>534360018>durr if you have a job you're richthe kind of rich you're talking about is the kind of rich where they don't need to work, you dimwit>When you draw from the trust, you'll be taxed.oh no! i have to pay a fraction of a percent of what I would when I draw on the line of credit I have with a bank backed by my trust assets if I ever need to dirty my hands with fiat currency, the charges incurred in doing so can be written off against tax! do you seriously expect that rich people have a billion dollars just lying around in a bank account depreciating every day, and that they would draw all that value from the trust in huge tax-liable chunks? only peasants like you deal in fiat currency on a regular basis.
This is probably the most Indian thread in the catalog right now and that's up against a lot of competition.
>>534360119you can get a job at mcdonalds, i'm sure they don't have links to the Epstein, unless that's what you tell yourself every time they reject your application. just joking, you've never applied for a job in your life. I think you might be hasan piker.
>>534360449My point: My own fucking government is paying his family to house our fucking own fucking government. Connect the dots. The banking families are th problem, not the fucking „billionaires“ you see on your screens. We surely got a common enemy, but its not the people they show you on tv (lmao)
>>534360601>the kind of rich you're talking about is the kind of rich where they don't need to work, you dimwitNo I'm talking about evil fucks like you who are so wealthy that you're able to get jobs and afford to post on /pol/ on a Sunday afternoon. Evil pedophilic dirtbags like you belong rotting in a hellscape.>oh no! i have to pay a fraction of a percent of what I would when I draw on the line of credit I have with a bank backed by my trust assets if I ever need to dirty my hands with fiat currency, the charges incurred in doing so can be written off against tax!You're so fucking retarded. To use the money you have in the trust, you have to pay tax on it, if you aren't using it, then it's as if you don't have it. You're taxed when you realize it. Nobody keeps their money in bank accounts where inflation depreicates it, money is INVESTED in assets.May God strike you with bone cancer and gut cancer. I take pleasure in seeing the evil rot with pain and agony.
>>534356671There are countless examples of corporations and large companies either scaling down in one state and shifting focus to another, or outright packing up and moving to another state specifically due to tax burdens imposed by overbearing state governments.Muh taxing the rich is fucking retarded because increased costs are always passed through to the consumer.
>>534360714Only Epstein connected pedophiles like you and your family can get jobs. If your daddy never knew King Charles and Epstein you wouldn't have all the wealth you have.Your daddy got you everything thanks to his friends.
>>534356671If you even bring up income, you have no idea what you are talking about. Being rich has fuck all to do with income. Income is the first derivative of wealth over time and not something you should penalize with taxation.
>>534360970You have no clue what you're talking about. People with jobs have income. How else are you supposed to hurt people with jobs without income tax?
>>534360839>No I'm talking about evil fucks like you who are so wealthy that you're able to get jobsif I was wealthy why the fuck would I want to get a job? lmao.>afford to post on /pol/ on a Sunday afternoonHEY LOOK EVERYONE, HANG THIS RICH BASTARD OVER HERE WHO CAN AFFORD TO SHITPOST ON A SUNDAY FROM HIS METH TENT ON THE STREETS OF PORTLAND, HE MUST BE AN EPSTEIN PEDO TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD SUCH UNTAXED LUXURY
>>534361080>if I was wealthy why the fuck would I want to get a job? lmao.If you were wealthy you would be able to get a job so you can afford to buy shit like a computer to post on /pol/ and of course... food, water, shelter.>HEY LOOK EVERYONE, HANG THIS RICH BASTARD OVER HERE WHO CAN AFFORD TO SHITPOST ON A SUNDAY FROM HIS METH TENT ON THE STREETS OF PORTLAND, HE MUST BE AN EPSTEIN PEDO TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD SUCH UNTAXED LUXURYTHe difference is I acknowledge my family are evil scumbags. The only reason I was once able to get a job after Univeristy is because my dad is so powerful and politically connected. Unfortunantely he retired from his position so I got ousted and replaced with someone who is well connected.
>>534360839>afford to post on /pol/ on a Sunday afternoonholy shit i've made it. i'm the elite now. stand back anons, this anon is on his way to the top
>>534361287You're definitely a bad person
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>>534357417> My family is very rich and we don't have an army of people to back us up.congratulations. They surely earned every single dollar in a genuinely honest way. Seems you already know you next job. Get that fucking army. You will need it faggot. I am coming for your shit, if noone else does
>>534361360so are you. posting on /pol/ on a sunday afternoon. how fucking evil lmao
>>534356671Define “rich” in California if you’ve got a couple million in assets (Real estate, investments) that puts you upper middle class. If you have six homes and three sit unoccupied valued at 10-20 million dollars you’re getting taxed appropriately.If the US as a country is to move forward then the tax burden has to be equal to the income growth.
>>534356671There is a problem with the inherent assumption that you need to collect revenue for the government to spend.In reality, this process is reversed. The government spends FIRST, then taxes.If you want to tax the rich because you don't care for their money corrupting the political process, that's fair. If you want to keep a tighter lid on inflationary pressure, that's also fair. But taxing them because you are under the misconception that you physically need to collect some portion of their money before the government can spend is not true.
>>534361287>>534361449Disco hitler is the vibe the zoomers yearn for
>>534356671The rich are people and people don’t like being thought of as sentient piggy banks. You’d be surprised by the lengths they’d go to to spite you
>>534361524It would be interesting for a country to try this. A government that creates all its own money, therefore making inflation the only form of taxation. I presume it would fail because there would be no checks on government spending and would end up looking like Zimbabwe.
>>534361360fuck you richfag, we're coming to redistribute your wealth to The People(tm). I hope you reported the $0.30 you made from giving 60 blowjobs yesterday to the tax man.
>>534361542its a good step in the right direction
>>534361877Literally me on every computer like all the times
>>534356816>Taxes by their very nature only hurt the greedy scumbags earning moneyKill yourself
>>534361791Zimbabwe's currency collapsed because their agricultural sector collapsed -- their number one export to acquire foreign currency which they used to buy what they did not produce.What I am explaining is not novel. It is describing the system as it already exists. In order to buy government bonds you need currency or bank reserves -- so it immediately becomes clear that those things need to exist independently of and prior to bonds.Any government that issues its own currency can always afford to purchase something that is 1) for sale and 2) priced in its own currency. The more you produce and the more resources you have at your disposal under your law, the more effective you can be doing this.
OP did you give up? sorry i shat on your thread
>>534362613I doubt the hitler edits did it. We genuinely hurt gavins feelings. Sorry man, no hate on ze internetz
>>534356671Eat the rich
