>just get a job lol
>>534360638get a normal jobfactorywarehouseconstructiondriver
B-but I have 20 years experience, flipping burgers
W*rking is for nigger cattle.
>>534360638Only midwits have jobs. Do something yourself.
>>534360638How messed up do you have to be to get rejected by mcdonalds.One of my old coworkers is a felon and the first job he got as an adult was mcjob.
>>534360638Trump and the rest of them expected you to have bought Bitcoin in the past already. When you win big in the cryptocurrency markets, it changes your brain chemistry forever in such a profound way and most have no grasp of this.
>>534360638warehouse is good.
>>534360737get a better job than that holy shit
>>534363575ever been inside one of those places? they obviously only hire you if your last name is Rodriguez.
>>534360638Just keep your head up anon. Remeber to apply 30 places a day minimum and fill in any gaps in your cv
>>534364011They don't fucking exist. Anything that requires an investment of time is a gamble at best. It's the same reason why you'll just never convince me or other people to try to get a degree.
>>534364455warehouse is shit, did that for 2 years.
>>534363575Being overqualified (having any educational background beyond high school) is worse than being a felon for scoring a McJob, because they know someone with credentials applying to McDonald's is just temporarily desperate and will bail at the first possible opportunity, wasting the time and money invested in training and benefits. McDonald's actually prefers criminals, junkies, whores, and assorted other fuck-ups, because such types have no other prospects and are likely to stick around longer.
>>534364247>wahh i dont want to try i want to remain poorthats it be a good goy do the manual labor build shekleberg's mansion
>>534360638Listen buddy, I know they don't have McDonalds in your little 1 town country but, you don't just start at McDonalds, McDonalds is the big leagues where they send the mvp fry cooks and line crew you don't throw a ball with your buddies for a few hours and sign up for a MLB teammaybe get a few years under your belt where you can learn your trade at something quaint like a mom and pop dinner or a white castle
>>534364601Still not doing it, man. You say try, I say playing into the debt-based system. I'm not paying for an education that is required for society to function. A preset amount of college degrees should be free like in Finland. Only about a third of college graduates work in a field directly related to their major. Roughly half of college graduates work in a field lower than their level of education. It's not even trying, it's literally a gamble.
>>534364561Then lie you stupid fuck. Imagine bring so stupid you cant lie your way past the mcdonalds application app.
>>534363575>How messed up do you have to be to get rejected by mcdonalds.You get rejected by Maccies because the 17 year old manager thinks you will take his job.
>>534365014Why doe? The manager is going to leave in six months tops to manage a Tesco or a Greggs innit
>>534364867its your life if you want to spend it slaving away in the hot sun for 14 hours a day be my guest im not going to stop you. in fact i may even tip you a beer when you build my house but that is for me to decide.
>>534360638I got invited into a office interview at a high end US consulting group I sat there while they went on 1h how nice the job is how much money everyone makes how cool AI is etc. and then was told to come back once I have submitted my CV online with signature. I am still perplexed why the fuck they would waste my time like that.
>>534365004Kid, if you're older than 21-22 and applying to McDonald's, they're going to know you're either lying or concealing something in your background to get the job, based on your age alone.
>>534365124Keep pretending, kid. Keep pretending. The statistics back up what I'm saying. The system doesn't work. The majority of training is bullshit. Whatever you may or may not have is luck.
>>534365124Meanwhile the general contractor you hired, to wrangle the Mexicans who actually nailed your house together, probably makes more money than you.
>>534365332>muh statisticssuch a cope>>534365394i doubt that
>>534365325They dont care about hiring felons or autitic retards so the only thing that would flag you is being a pedo.Is that what youre not telling us that no one wants to hire you because you got busted for pedo shit?
>>534365599Well, he owns his own business and has employees, so it's a pretty safe bet that he makes more than a wagie like you.
>>534365100>He thinks a Maccies manager can think that far ahead
>>534363575Retarded nigger, McDonald’s gets a payout from the government when they hire felons through muh rehab policies. I know you’re some kind of nigger or mutt because you people can’t understand second order effects.
>>534365753i make $250k/yr as a senior software engineer no he doesnt
>>534365124I don't have degree and I work as a chemist at a small company after working as a general lab assistant for 2 years.(this is after proving I can show up on time and be consistent.)It's not as polarized as "no degree -> be manual laborer" anymore. There's online certification programs and online courses that cost $200-$1000 instead of $20k+.You can take online classes from unis like Harvard at edX, or get master's degrees entirely online (for comp sci related topics) from Udacity.
>>534365864>i make $250k/yrMe too bro! So crazy how well, financially, everybody is on this website. Even while bitching about how nobody pays enough, everybody on here is smart and got it figured out! Poor normies
>>534365864>senior software engineerFucking software kiddies thinking that they work. Lol, lmao.
i applied to some factory type job and then went in for some interview. there was like 3 or 4 guys doing it. i think one was more HR type of guy, or corporate, the other guys were more regular workers from different departments but were higher on the food chain than just grunt.one of them was like senior citizen aged, one was a literal mexican gang banger with face tattoos, and one was more of a regular white guy. it was a complete humiliation ritual. i remember after getting up my back was soaked in sweat and i must have left a snail trail on the shitty plastic cafetria chair i was sitting in. after quite some time i received an email that said i wasn't hired. fuck wagies and fuck companies.
>>534366065Retarded nigger, this is as straightforward as selection bias gets. People who don’t make much won’t post about it, people who do will.Not complicated! You’re just STUPID! (That’s why you’re poor lol)
>>534366200Man, I was making fun of anon asshole. I was being patronizing to him
>>534366265I’m aware of that…I used retarded to be insulting but I see now you actually are so it isn’t as fun
>>534366200>you’reyour*
>>534366265Nigger
>>534366383nice ID
>>534365864Yeah, most any general contractor with his own business building custom homes makes more than that. But, in defense of your education argument, most places today require a four year degree for a general contractor's license. I agree with the other anon though. Education today is overrated, and I say that as someone with a master's degree. You think the argument is white collar vs blue collar, but all that matters is business owner vs wagie. A blue collar business owner will usually make more money than a white collar wagie does, and enjoy a better quality of life. College used to be a necessity. That's where all the knowledge was stored, universities, libraries. But, since the advent of the internet, knowledge is free and available anywhere. The only reason to get a degree is to become a wagie. Also, I can go open a hospital or engineering firm without ever going to medical school or engineering school. I just have to hire some doctor or engineer wagies.
>>534366178What had you so fucking nervous.
>>534364100>>534364561Where I live, McDonald’s will only hire you if you’re a teenage girl. In-n-out only hires white chads still in high school. They’d absolutely reject a grown adult trying to apply.
>>534366441after you include all my benefits i always make more. i got a 40k bonus last year just because. if youre a valuable wagie you own your employer. in your hypothetical scenario of owning a hospital your doctors would own you not the other way around.
>>534363859>when you win at gambling, you become addictedthat's the grimmest assessment of the state of america i've read in a while
>>534360638This person was probably over qualified
>>534360737>factory>warehouse>constructiondead end jobs that will wear down your body. if you want crippling arthritis in your hands in your 40s or 50s, go for it.
>>534360638You had the wrong last name.
>>534360638do nightshift, normies with a social life dont want to do it so theres more openings and less competition.
>>534360638We need to freeze hiring because the manager read that Tesla's Robots are coming in a year.
>>534366800>i always make moreNo, you don't. I made more than you do now, back 2005 as a custom home builder and that was before I started building my own homes.>you own your employerLol, this is just flat out ridiculous wagie cope, but if it makes you feel better, go ahead. There is basically a never ending supply of midwit software developer, doctor and engineering wagies in need of a boss to tell them what to do.
>>534365222They get off on it. Unironically.
>>534360638That is not the problem, but like >>534364011 had stated>I can't get a job>N-NOOO NOT THAT ONE I WANT SIX FIGURE ONE IN AN AIR CONDITIONED OFFICE WITHOUT ANY ROASTIE I DESERVE IT I DESERVE IT I DESERVE ITThis is the problem. Delusional fools who think they are hot shit and that they are entitled to anything.
>>534367157>no 401k>no health insurance>no dental>no pto>no company car>no company phone>no bonuses>no free lunch>pay the employer AND wagie side of taxessure, enjoy paying for all those things yourself. i hear from my self-employed friends all the time how much theyre paying out the ass for basic shit like dental. you may make more on paper but you certainly do not bring home as much as i do.
>>534367360Oh good, the namefag low level government wagie who gets bossed around by females all day is here to clear the air.
>>534360638No love no job, simple as.
>>534365325i'm 23 and i've never had a job thougheverbeit
>>534360638you need two or three masters degrees these days to get a job at mcdonalds.
>>534360638>a slav shitholer trying to get a job at an American company that has way better pay and benefits than his shithole local companiesYeah I'd assume there's some competition. Mcsharts may be low level employment for us but it's high level for you.
>>534367490>>no 401kYou do understand that you don't have to have a boss to open a 401k, right? And, if someone is making twice as much as you are they will be able to put more in it?>>no health insurance>>no dentalSo, what is that? Another $25k a year?>>no ptoNo need, the business owner already controls all of his time, unlike the wagie. >>no company carFalse, as a business owner you can basically get a free full-size truck or Tahoe every three years.>>no company phoneSo, $1,200 a year?>>no bonusesNo need when you already keep all the profit anyway.>>no free lunchLol, you do understand that business owners write off lunch? That's why your boss gets you pizza on Friday, it's a tax write off.>>pay the employer AND wagie side of taxesI don't think you understand how taxes work at all. Probably because yours are taken out before you even get paid, with no say from you or your accountant.Look, you can spin it all you want but being a business owner will always be the better option for anyone who isn't a midwit. I agree that if you're going to go the wagie way, it's better to get your participation degree and try for a white collar wage cage. But, from my point of view this whole white collar-blue collar argument seems like two slaves arguing over being a house nigger or a field nigger.The main problem with being a wagie is the lack of upward mobility. There is no way to scale your job up like there is when owning your own business. I was able to up scale my business of building custom homes for other people into building custom beach vacation homes for myself. In just a couple of years I was able to take my business from making close to what you make, to over ten times what you make. I was retired before 35. $250k a year isn't bad, it will give you a decent life, but you will be 65 before it gives you enough to leave that wage cage. They will give you just enough to make your wage cage comfy, but not enough to escape it. Jobs are designed that way.
>>534367118I've been doing that type of work for a long time. I'm currently 46 and still move faster/better than 20 year olds. The only issue I have is sore muscles and well, that's because as you age muscle recovery becomes slower.
>>534368922I beleive you. Anyone claiming that sitting behind a desk all day is somehow more healthy than being active all day is retarded.
>>534363575I was rejected from an entry-level job cleaning out disgusting lived in storage units because I have 15 years of software and technical project management experience. They assume you will not be able to pick up some human shit and a piss jar, or that you can't handle exposed used needles if you're soft enough to have worked in an office.If you have had better career progress than the manager reviewing your resume (i had a chip in my shoulder to progress) you will be rejected outright.Linkedin locks you into a story so you can't even lie about being dumber or more mediocre than you are.It's the job market, not the individual. We've done tests for state DOJ to prove Workday-esque complaints.
>>534369117if you were affiliated with workday in any capacity you deserve to suffer
>>534364247Companies won't even provide basic-ass fundamental paid training (even with conditions that the employee stay on for x-years) for positions they are desparate to fill, then illegals bring fake A-Class CDLs (NAFTA etc didn't fucking help) permits to operate cranes, bulldozers, heavy machinery.If there was real enforcement against hiring illegals... You think through the second-order consequences there.
>>534367799>thougheverbeitfuck off proxyfag
>>534369423I work in the fishing industry in Alaska, and we do shit like using cranes and all sorts of shit we theoretically need licenses for, but don't have them. It's all basic shit that can be taught. Driving a millions of dollars boat isn't hard, either.
>>534369423Ya dude, this is were over regulation gets you. All that matters is that the company doesn't get in trouble with Uncle Sam, they don't care if you are actually "qualified", they don't care if you accidentally hurt someone. They just want a piece of paper (even if it is fake) so they can shift blame when disaster happens
>>534369261>in any capacityReread that.to: "Prove","Workday-esque""Complaints""Against""Other Platforms"
>>534369679>Driving a millions of dollars boat isn't hard, either.maybe not anymore now that everything is done by computer if you actually had to go analog you'd kill the entire crew
>>534370281>ass covering culture. shifting responsibility.This stems from the insurance industry, lobbying our politicians for requirements that benefit them.Every. Single. Time.
>>534360638Even McDonalds doesn't want subhuman maga-tards. Neeting is the only way they can stay alive. Lmao
>>534371103kek our entire business empire is built around risk avoidance and transference
>>534368922you also most likely had access to food with better nutrition than today, eating shitty modern day food also wears you down faster and makes the recovery slower
>>534360638fucking lol
>>534370605I'd kill Poseidon for creating sandbars
>>534360737>Zero percent chance of property ownership or a family Moms basement is really comfy
