Does this dude really think the pardon is going to save him? If the pardon itself is part of a broader crime (e.g. do this illegal thing and then I will pardon you for it), does he think that makes him beyond the reach of the law?A presidential pardon can absolutely, 100% itself be acomponent of a crime. Because you cannot pardon future actions and only actions in the past, the act of pardoning itself can be illegal. >but the pardon is legal because the president is allowed to do it!!!Driving a car is legal. If you use your legal right to drive a car and decide to run people over, a legal act is a component of a broader crime. I think these morons are 100% fucked unless they manage to end democracy and seize power.
>>534363432They'll try.
>>534363432i mean has anyone ever been prosecuted after receiving a presidential pardon? Where's the president for that? i mean where's the law even at after the Epstein debate or LA? You do understand the country just spent 10 years screwing over law enforcement so they could do whatever they wanted right? *But...but...muh rules!*>And? When they beat you up and put you in jail like they did those J7 guys what are you going to do about it scream about the rules?There are no rules only the guy with the biggest stick has the rules now.
>>534363432If he's getting rid of wokism I support it, but I fear he may be purging anyone not also working for Mossad.
>>534363951I read that in Londo's voice. Out loud.
>>534364255One parasite or the other, there can be only one.
uh oh trannylooks like you lost again
>>534364248>i mean has anyone ever been prosecuted after receiving a presidential pardon?It's unsettled. The theory behind it, however, is ironclad in its simplicity. If a pardon cannot extend into the future, that means the pardon cannot itself fall under its own pardon, as it is the precise point at which some past action was pardoned. If the pardon cannot be pardoned, its only protection is that the president is allowed to perform it. The act itself is afforded no special constitutional protection. That means it carries no special exception as far as its own legality or otherwise. Like crossing the street or driving a car, it is an action. Its own legality is established by the broader context in which it was performed. Crossing the street is legal if done at a crosswalk, otherwise it's jaywalking. Driving a car is legal unless you use it to drive into someone, then it's murder. Pardoning a friend of yours is legal... unless you did so as a component of a broader illegal action.
>>534363432This guy will never get over the fact that his military career was hot garbage and a rock would make a better officer.
>>534363432Why the fuck do presidential pardons even exist? is there any historical reason? Every time I read about pardons it's always some incredibly degenerate scum of the earth jew or nigger getting pardoned.
>>534364255>letting wedge issue decide if you should put up with jews pickpocketing you and living in a $2000/mo cuckshedYou reap what you sow, all because you hate others more than you care about your own wellbeing
>>534365590They were for a time period when the president wasn't a corrupt retard who could be bought with bribes.
op has it right. What they have already done, what they're doing right now, and what they plan to do in the future means they can never accept losing power or allowing a peaceful transition. Either MAGA loses the next election, and tears the country apart refusing to accept it (including violence and assasinations) or MAGA wins the next election (through gerrymandering and outright fraud) and continues tearing the country apart with their policies. Either way, the problem is MAGA.
>>534365705So like what? 200y ago in the case of the usa? It's stupid and outdated and I think it should be abolished.Also the whole pardoning thing reminds me of the story from the bible with Pilat or whoever it was that that asked the crowd who to pardon. Jesus or some cutthroat thief. Of course the (((crowd))) chose the degenerate criminal.Seems to me pardoning is in itself tied to villainy.
>>534366094It's essentially our Framers' biggest mistake. The idea was that mercy is important for a number of reasons, and that it's best executed by the individual. Some Framers worried about literally and unironically exactly what's going on right now, but they convinced themselves that the independent interests of Congress would always act as a check against executive overreach. The error was that they imagined a broad group of political parties instead of two disciplined parties. Instead of a group of parties, almost immediately sprang up a very few number of concentrated, powerful parties... with presidents acting as members of the parties instead of, as they had envisioned, acting independently. The Framers made more than a few bad decisions, but most were compromises necessary to placate (predominantly) southern states to bring them into a union. The biggest unforced error was designing a system in which private political parties, by virtue of coordinating the executive and Congress, could function as an end run on so many of their protections. We fought a Civil War over their other failures -- namely slavery. I hope we don't have to fight another one over this failure.
>>534363432Trying to install loyalists?
>>534363432Ever since war has existed there's been people that protest against war. Spend enough time looking into the issues and you'll support the war. Not all wars are just, but this one is
>>534367127Get back in your grave, Mr. Hitchens.
>>534364255I trust hegseth he seems incredibly competent and knows more about war than those gay woke generals do
