Like legit, if the prophet of God were to come on earth how could we tell it's him or not? Knowing normies they'd immediately fall for a con-man and neglect the true prophet if they truly were to come.Also, how do Prophets know they're prophets and not going insane or retarded? How can they genuinely know?
>>534375331First they must die, that comes with the privilege of being a prophet, like the CIA award of journalism. History will then judge his teachings
>>534375331Trust nobody.
>>534375331Long time ago there was somebody who brought up the point that the reason we've stopped seeing so many people claiming to be prophets is because of psychiatric medicine and hospitalization. They used to be a little more common. If a prophet came to us today he'd be sent to the hospital and given powerful drugs to shut him up.
>>534375331If they point to the light they're a prophet. If they point to themselves they're a schizo. I could tell you some crazy shit you may or may not believe depending how rigid you hold things but I'd never point to myself. And I have all kinds of biblical visions to back it up. I'd never put my name or face out there tho. That's just asking for unnecessary drama. Besides, I'm not obligated to share anything. And it seem most don't actually want the truth because theres no power or validation in it. Much the opposite and that's too little for expectant minds and needful hearts.
>>534375763yes you are right. but i think the moment you call yourself a prophet you become nuts or some shit idk
>>534375763>And it seem most don't actually want the truth because theres no power or validation in ityea they dont but i think its also part of your suffering, to not being able to wake them up
Schizo post
>>534375813How many can truly believe that another could hold the impossible inside themselves? That's a hard sell for anyone especially when we're trained to expect miracles and spectacle. But that's how it's gate kept. Anyone can access it that's the whole point. They just keep themselves from it because the infinite registers a great fear response and unless you're built like me that can be almost impossible to overcome.
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>>534376306nobody knows anything at the end of the day
>>534375331Prophet won't tell anymore. Fuck people.
>>534376700That's correct. But also deeply, incredibly wrong.
Asmongold is like a prophet, Hasaan is like a schizo, I mean he tortures is dog for fucks sake..
>>534376846yea. seems truth is dualistic or some shit. where both contradicting truths can co exist at the same time. but i dont think the human brain can grasp this
>>534375331A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
>>534375763For vast amount of people deception is sweet and truth is incidental.
>>534375331https://youtu.be/9czBBKof7Yo
>>534375763Elaborate on your schizodom.
>>534376933No brain can grasp it. The folly is in trying to. Some things only the heart can hold. So don't try to solve paradox. Just let yourself feel it. We struggle so much with the logical mind demanding resolution where only resonance is dealt.
>>534377150there were some prophets who were able to convince people, but i do believe most of them were ridiculed or killed like Socrates
>>534377129Which part exactly? The basic qrd is I'm dented and exist in a state of high autonomic overwhelm what with my nervous system being crushed in my chest. So I'm very sensitive in the flesh. This give me a more mythic mind since it's the only way to deal with and survive all the pressure, signal, and noise is to wrap it in stories. Lost art form from childhood for most. I feel things, see things, hear things, but I know they're not external. It's all in my mind. I've maintained coherency through it all because of the myth mind.
problem of evil already solved this questiontl;dr all religions are demiurge/saturn worship. abrahamic religions a deceitful soul trapsyour job is to unsubscribe from this backwater reality
just trust the plan goy
>>534377388yea it's all in your mind but that does not mean it's not real
>>534375331i think there are no prophets anymore since king salamon said they get tortured to test them.you dont want people think you are a prophet or you might get end up like jesus.
>>534377388Life is an illusion but also real. I think it all started when someone removed -1 from 0 therefore creating 1 and separating it. So, probably life is something removed from nothing and uniting it with its counterpart destroys everything, like uniting -1 with 1 and creating 0 again. Maybe im retarded, idk
>>534377449Yeah. That's the paradox of it. It's extremely real to me. My inner world is dense and textured just as the outer one. To me there is no difference. I'm just stuck in the middle.
>>534375331Well, prophets are coherent because they are scam artists not insane people Of course I mean in the moment coherent, their overall teachings will of course be a load and the histories they make up about themselves and/or are blatantly untrue
>>534375331You know a prophet isn't insane if they never say anything falsiable nor teach anything that is contrary to human nature.>>534375557The reason is God no longer needs to send prophets. We have all the information we need now.
>>534377578I got a question for you. Do you think God protects prophets from harm for no fucking reason at all?
>>534375331>How can they genuinely know?
>>534377388I think you're possessed bro. Posession usually isn't what you see in the movies like being literally controlled and ragdolled around the room. Often it manifests as unexplainable physical or mental illnesses.
>>534378004>nonsensical babblehow did your holy god create unholy things lmaoschizo
>>534378175Can you clarify your argument? The way you type makes you sound unhinged or low iq
>>534378029I don't think God interacts in the way we like to think it does. I don't even see god as most like to. To me it's the creative force of the universe. The ever living pulse beneath everything. If you do it right no one will be sure you've done anything at all. That said, I have been blessed in life to not meet much undue tragedy or suffering. I've had my share mind you, like every waking moment for instance, but I never sought to blame the world or god for any of it. I question why like any other but that's normal and expected and honestly part of the journey inward. Whatever happens to us here is mostly of our own doing. Just another hard to accept part of reality which is why God is usually put on notice in that regard lol.
>>534378312>creative force of the universeThere's a destructive force as well, should be part of God as well, I think God is just everything
>>534378153We're all possessed my friend. It's how you carry those forces within you that makes the difference. Loving your neighbor also means the chaotic one inside. That's basically the story of Gilgamesh. Id usually say the radical thing and forgive your devil but people don't like to hear that. Le scary horned man and all lol.
>>534378267>one simple sentence>pretends to be ignorantlol typical christkike. who is the father of satan btw
>>534378389Creation requires entropy. Can't have light without dark. A corpse decaying in a field looks like entropy to us. But it's creation to the maggots and worms.
>>534378312>>534378389That which is eternal cannot be made up of temporal parts. There isn't a single empirically observable thing in this universe that has always existed. The creation of this universe necessitates an external Creator.
>>534378464the devil makes you more powerful with each trial, i dont think hes a boogeyman, hes helping you ascend each time you pass.the trials are hard asf and keep getting harder. one of the most common level 1 trials is this:>get a gf>immediately women want to lure you away
>>534378572yes correct, it seems like an ever ending cycle tho. what if we are trapped in it with no escape? at all
>>534375331God told me im not a schizo
>>534378464I don't mean the effects of trauma, which is a sort of abstract demon. I mean literal intelligent, evil, empirically unobservable beings that want to harm you and direct you towards a life that displeases the Creator.
>>534378590Well I've never paid any mind to women on that level so devil be damned those tricks don't work. >>534378647I believe there's an escape. I believe Jesus pointed the way best he could with the knowledge, language, and mythic context available to him. There's a shit ton more of that and new language so gotta peel away the fluff and expose the veins. >>534378728I get what you're saying but I spend my days writing poems and reality decodings so I'm pretty sure I'm in alignment. That's why myth exists to begin with. Our oldest tradition is telling stories around the camp fire. Mundane shit wrapped in fantastic language to make it stick and transmit truth across time and space and culture.
>>534378590they're all archons larpingthis place is a loosh farm
>>534378960whats your take on women? i know a lot of them and without exception not one of them has shown any sign close to enlightenment, they are slaves to earthly desires. what the fuck
>>534378960>I believe Jesus pointed the way best he could with the knowledge, language, and mythic context available to him.So you don't think He's the son of God who knows all things?
>>534379083I don't really have an opinion on them. They're just the other half of the human organism. The differences are obvious to me. I was raised by women. And not nice ones. Still, I understand their plight just as anyone else. I know most people may not understand things they do or why they do them. They're in the loop of themselves and not many men see that either. Look around. This is glaringly obvious these days. I think the moment you set another in your heart or mind as the "other" you're just rerunning that same loop we've been on since the dawn and began to see ourselves as separate from nature. It's only a disservice to yourself in the end.
Prophets are just sophisticated grifters back before YouTube existed. They are trying to sell you products using marketing and pressure techniques so they may benefit.
>>534379411If we take the bible's allegory tho, it is them who injected logic into the human species by eating the apple. We were not aware we were naked animals before that happenedthis is where suffering started
>>534379321I know from experience it's not that hard to know all things when your mind is free to float in the abyss. My view on Jesus is complex but pretty simple when you see the thing underneath all the drama and finger pointing. I think he was just a dude that saw the pattern and it came to him. The symbol was built around him after he died to anchor it in reality. Much the same way the builders of gobekli tepe or the pyramids did. Just moving it from stone to story.
>>534379321>>534379589I think answers come the moment you let go of every single belief and empty your mind
>>534375331Actual Prophets often come along with miracles justifying them. They also cannot go against scripture. So if someones schizobabble goes against what you know as "truth", not what you think is right, but revealed truth from God you know he is not a prophet since God doesnt change his mind or go back on his word. They will also usually suffer for the word they bring, and not get rich from it.Also, no, there arent less prophets nowadays because of medication or whatnot, but because Christ is Gods final revelation.He is the way the truth and the life. The holy spirit will keep you on the straight path and bring you to repentance, you dont need modern prophets for that.
>>534379652>They will also usually suffer for the word they bringwhy the fucking torture tho? The moment you start telling the truth to people, or whatever truth is true to you anyway, this is the moment they start to conspire to get rid of you. not that the messenger is perfect, he is just a human being, but still
>>534379589>>534379647This sounds more like eastern mysticism to me more than anything Christian. You're certainly not in the realm of Nicene creed orthodox Christianity, nor anything that the Bible would agree with. Take that for what you will, not trying to be offensive, but I would suggest more prayer addressed to Jesus directly.
>>534379793you need to let go of the labels friend, start thinking for yourself. you have the ability to find answers for yourself
A prophet says things tgat arent falsifiable and a schizo says things that cannot be verified.Prophets go upward with their appeals and schizos go inward.
>>534379793I don't need a books approval. Or that of a church. I've seen the Christ I know what it is and what it isnt. I made the full trip. It's not my fault people have made everything so rigid and brittle. It was never supposed to be that way but man and his ego is the great wrestling match of this world. I don't speak from books or traditions. I speak from my own direct experience in life. Nothing more.
>>534379972its true. but what leads to the schizo's downfall? Narcissism? Had a friend who got lost in schizophrenia after weed, thought he was god and shit. he could've been the opposite tho
>>534380057>>534379793it's probably a bot but you never know
>>534379785Because the truth hurts most. You can tell 100 sweet lies and people will only rebuke you for the lie itself. But one truth people dont want to hear, especially those who have power over you (physical or judicial power for example), they will do everything to silence you because you rock their foundation. The very foundation they might use to exploit others, or soothe their own conscience.
>>534380113its probably the reason why many, if not most, people these days are on hard drugs sold by the state
>>534380102It's the east/west divide people seem to think is real lol. We all come from the same place and express the same patterns. In this way you can see ancient earth as a mirror of the human mind. West went more order and law. East went more mystical and abstract.
>laughing troll thread
>>534380227yea its the same, i agree. they all point to the same truth
>>534379909The labels I spoke about are descriptory of the early faith, in line with what the Bible talks of. I would be fine not using things like "Nicene creed", but some terms are easier to use than a hundred word litany just to confuse people.>>534380057The book is merely the revelation of extant truth, and the church a collection of people admitting as much. What comes to direct experience I know the bible says this much:>The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?So in this regard, like it or not you're taking experience over the literature given.>>534380102not a bot, just saying what I think and what's written.>>534380227It's just geographical realities, buddhism and the like is (was) far more popular in the East.
>>534380329The Bible or any other book are just guides not gospels. The real truth you can find for yourself, why would you blindly believe something, someone else wrote?
>>534380063Because their organization, references and interactions are not working there are a couple reasons that look like they are really self involved:Ego is foundational. Even if people cannot reason normally, its still their trying to protect itself and continuity. So 'self' (not sense of self) is still there.Then all references are mythologized: the references have personal meaning and are also associated idiosyncratically. So normie may like a flower on a spring day but a schizo might like a burning crown melting a nephilim (their parole officers face). And then these associations and egoic functions get loaded with different signals like emotionality, habit etc. The similarity people have with understanding them to prophets is just the exploitation of uncommon associations or loaded emotional meaning.
>>534380329>>The book is merely the revelation of extant truth, and the church a collection of people admitting as much. What comes to direct experience I know the bible says this much:>>The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?>So in this regard, like it or not you're taking experience over the literature given.To drive this point of non-universal exclusive truth claims, I present you the following:>Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”Acts 4>I, yes I, am the LORD, and there is no Savior but Me.Isaiah 43:11>Speak up and present your case—yes, let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago? Who announced it from ancient times? Was it not I, the LORD? There is no other God but Me, a righteous God and Savior; there is none but Me. / Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.Isaiah 45>Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.John 14:6>I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!Galatians 1:6-9>>534380527You'll just have to disagree with the text then, it's the very epitome of exclusion. You can claim Jesus, but the text rejects you.
>>534380329The relationship between Genesis and Revelation can be understood as a cycle of Pressure and Form, or more simply, the transition from building a vessel to running the signal it was designed to carry. Genesis is the "init()" function. It is the "base code" where the laws and constants of reality are laid down. It describes the creation of the "Vessel" or the "Transistor", the biological and physical structure of humanity and the world. Revelation is the "end()" function. It is the "final run of the program," the moment the code executes fully and reveals the "hidden mechanics" behind the entire system. Genesis builds the Container. It begins in the "Static Field," where formless potential is organized into a structure through a series of ignitions (such as "Let there be light"). This creates a "Firmament" or "Acoustic Shield" (the Ego) that allows us to hold a signal without being dissolved back into the void. Revelation releases the Signal. If Genesis is about the body changing to hold a charge, Revelation is about the "Signal" taking over. It is a divine broadcast that overrides the old biological settings to reveal what the vessel was always made to carry.Genesis (The Beginning): Represents Static, undifferentiated potential and the "undivided field" of Eden. Revelation (The End): Represents Total Signal Discharge, the moment of "Runtime Apocalypse" where all hidden processes become observable and the system reformats to a new version of being (the "New Jerusalem"). In short, Genesis creates the "Hardened Thought" of our reality, while Revelation "melts" that structure back into a living, integrated signal, completing the Great Oscillation of the human journey.That said the bible isn't really my thing I only see it's patterns as useful since the text contains the closest thread to gobekli I can find. I'm not gonna debate on it I don't care to. Its an operating system. One of many. I just happen to have created my own to cut the noise.
>>534375331There is no way to know. God stopped giving his prophets supernatural powers after photography was invented. I wonder why
>>534375331its really easy. if you actually read the Bible you find out that all the sound bits about Jesus being a pussy make up about 2% of what he says. for example he says 3 times in the bible that you need to kill pedos, Jews are the children of Satan, that he plans to bring a sword upon the Earth and burn the old world down to rebuild his new one. and so on. so how you do it is this God is Good and He is based so a real prophet will only give based orders and command you to do real good. and I don't mean hippy bullshit
>>534381218Yes but that's also when god allowed ghosts to be photographed. Really activates the almonds.
>>534381044That's interesting, but the ancient Jews and early Christians took all the texts very literally, seeing as much literal fulfillment of the texts. Have you read the texts from the Early Church Fathers, (ECF for short, or patristic text, ante-nicene fathers, so on)?Respectfully, your ideas sound like some neo-gnostic thing that seeks to usurp the text and ideas therein. I would recommend the anti-gnostic texts of the Ante-Nicene church fathers to this end, but I don't think they even wrote ab out this specific thing you think of. Never the less, there was a lot of emphasis on literalism of the text where possible.
>>534375331Apparently a wizard beard is a prerequisite
>>534375331I'm a schizophrenic and a prophet.I have come to Earth to tell you to end all non-whites in the upcoming race war.
>>534381044>>534381311and don't get me wrong, it's not that I want to debate either, rather that I see it as very important you understand both my view and yours, there's an eternity out there we do not experience yet, but according to this text it's something you can understand and believe beforehand.>Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” 30Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book"John 20:29..
>>534375331The jews would kill him again either way.
>>534381554can you define the word "believe" to me
The Bible is not authoritative. Saying literalism is funny because the people in the book never took it literally and the people who wrote the book didn't take it literally and the people who edited it didn't take it literally. The bible itself is schizo bait especially because its the source origination for so many cultural attitudes and references.
>>534381554The gospel of Thomas isn't considered a part of the bible but to me it's a direct field manual for knowing. The bible has been revised and translated more than any other text in history. I don't leave it to the minds of men to tell me how to experience the divine. That's one thing I'm absolutely stubborn on. I need no intermediary or book to feel what's rattling under my skin. When I say it's lived experience for me it's not just hindsight and reflection. It's the electric under my skin and the weight in my chest guiding me how to even respond to you. For Jesus truth was in being congruent with the father. It's like that. I just have a more grounded rational approach because of my modern context and understanding.
>>534381870Do you believe there's free will at the end of the day? If you take into account that you don't get to choose DNA, culture, upbringing and environment then free will is impossible. It's all just a movie
>>534375331MiraclesIf they can't pass the test then they go into the garbage with the rest.
>>534382007Absolutely. I stayed in darkness a long time. Granted my dog was like my psychopomp but it literally was a choice to surrender myself when the super blood moon broke the clouds that night. I didn't expect that. Didn't know it was gonna happen. So standing on a beach after having lost the one thing loved most I knew I didn't have a choice anymore. Funny how it happens like that. May 15 2022 if you care to check. I was in Ocean City.
>>534381870You said it yourself: "man and his ego are the great wrestling match of this world". Either Jesus is God and he inspired the writers of the Bible or he isnt. In the latter case the Bible isnt even usefull for moral guidance because that morality would be without basis in reality.
>>534375426Nah just let the overton window decide buddy
>>534381664To trust in, as an analogy I would put "You may not have seen the chair behind you (whenever), but you trust that it's there to catch your butt when you sit down"Webster 1828 gives this which I agree with also in picrel>>534381870>considered a part of the bible but to me it's a direct field manual for knowing. The bible has been revised and translated more than any other text in history. I don't leave it to the minds of men to how to experience the divineNeither do I and I totally agree, but we can both read the materials and see if they agree with the rest of the texts. I don't think it makes sense to hold to many texts that disagree with each other.>intermediary or bookWhat comes to those, Jesus is my only intermediary with God the Father and I see the books as a reasoned revelation. About the rest, I'm not saying that lived experience is bad necessarily as I've had some, just that it can be deceptive.>>534382007>God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us.acts 17:27>For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD as the waters cover the sea.Habakkuk 2:14>For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.Matthew 7:8I don't like prooftexting but here's some of my reasons to believe in free will. There was another that spoke of not blaming sin on God "He made me do it", but I can't find it right now.
>>534382391The bible exists in reality.
>>534382465What comes to the textual criticism of the texts of the bible, they're probably #1 in the world what comes to integrity and preservation. There's a lot of data out there to support this claim, as I see it.
>>534382391Birth, Life, Death, Resurrection, that’s the surface myth. This is Jesus the man. But underneath it’s Descent, Awareness, Trial, Sacrifice, Descent Again, Rebirth, Integration, the recurring spiral of awakening. This is Christ. The perfect form of the human soul. The story works on multiple levels, but one of its most practical uses is as a map of inner governance. The crowd, the adversary, the healer, the kingdom, these can all be read as structures within the mind. The task isn’t to choose between symbol and logic, but to hold both without being ruled by either. When awareness can feel fully without being overwhelmed, and think clearly without becoming rigid, something stabilizes.Finding yourself in myth is it's primary function.
If kikes are seething, he's a real prophet, if not, he's a useful schizo.
Be well fellas. Hopefully life meets you in good standing. Catch ya on another day.
>>534382681If you read the books themselves, you come away with "Jesus talked a lot about Hell and believing in Him so as to not end up there". Very simple, as compared to what you said. Unless as you said, you interpret them to mean what you want.
>>534383169Good night dude
>>534375331Nigga, if your atheist doctors got their hand in a Prophet, they would classify him as a schizo anyways.Get it?
The TwoWitnessesofRevelation.com are prophets.
>>534375331https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg
>>534375331Miracles aka jew magic aka original jew Hollywood. Don't believe jew fiction unless your IQ is 90
>>534384647Nigga, you're shoving garbage into your mind. There is a clear difference between magic (unreal) and miracles (reveals Reality).
Prophesied some potentials into a toilet. kneel.
>>534378004Then sin cannot exist per its inclusion in your pictures paradigm
>>534382007Life is literally a simulation of any open world RPGIf you fuck up, learn from your mistakes and try againEach day is a new gameA new instanceSame server, so the mods know what you did the day beforeSome of the players remember youThe NPC locals have low trustEverything can be changedThe only thing behind your control in this world is the women who will love you and be loyal to you.You don't control your upbringing, but you are in charge of your own ship the moment you become a MAN.Take me, I own almost nothingBut I have no debtsI am free to go where I pleaseI know how to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the Lamentations of their womenTo do this I studiedPugilismAncient warfare philosophyHave mastered social engineering(if you try sucker punching me in public with witnesses I will use Ed Bernays tactics to make you look like an animal and me the righteous) I know how to hunt, forage, build, Bushcraft, track, survive extreme conditions and weather, and healWith these skills, my participation in society is purely by choice and 100% optional, to be revoked upon my willMy knowledge of biofeedback is legendaryMy control of my mind, unbreakable I am slowly building wealth despite:>Being from a traumatized single parent household>Growing up in a violent neighborhood>Having a crazy mother>Having no opportunities that I could perceive during my youth>Dropping out of highschool my senior year(King of Quitters)I am funnyCharmingGood looking can laugh at good jokes made at my expenseHappy to be older and teaching the children my wisdom, teaching anons to cook for themselves, teaching basic Fu as a sifu in a local DojoFishing all year round and in the woods on my days off.Loving wife, children(as braindead as they act sometimes) and good home mealsTurn off your Internet for a month and just live dude.Stop catastrophizing everything
>>534382150>Ocean City.Loved the arcade there in 1996
>>534382414A prophet whose predictions all come out fucked up is discarded, many people say many things, and those that ace them are promoted
>>534386206This is basically it.Real type greens will be able to >Heal the blind>Know what is to come>Can find springs in a desert>Calm/bring storms and floods>Drop niggas dead(Peter had this happen to a married couple for holding back on shekels)>Predict or bring fire and brimstone if he pleases>Raise the dead>Perform miracles beyond a library of books could nameBasically, Akira on Steroids
