>>534376405
no
we'll kick em back to europe

those countries will likely not abandon islam because they have laws against apostasy and legal punishments. if they didn't, people would've abandoned it a while ago, a lie cannot survive freedom of speech

>>534376407
The internet is changing that.
That's why you're seeing mass apostasies from Islam, and a spread of underground churches, even in Muslim countries with Sharia law.

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That pen is leading to a different conclusion lil bro

>>534376409
A lot of them end up becoming christians afterwards idk even know why. Probably because muslims who became atheists go full degenerate and get a substance problem almost immediately. I know a Lebanese dude who went down that same path and hes catholic or something know

>>534376409
>muzzie IQ
its both
muslims are clamoring for the exit

>>534376405
It's beneath Christians to fight over clay. Let the Jews and Muslims kill themselves over it.

>>534376411
Lol, and that exit isn’t going to be another god who equally didn't do anything for them while they were living like shit

Meanwhile....
https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/
texas-latino-catholics-convert-islam-19933045.php
https://dazzlingdawn.com/public/2024/11/22/latino-catholics-converting-to-islam-in-texas-but-why

>>534376413
>muzzdog is illiterate
there's that inbred IQ again
>>534376405

>>534376414
>no conversion numbers
Hmm..

>>534376415
I already refuted that, nobody's choosing your dead jew in muslim lands, he didn't do shit for them.

>>534376417
he's a tradcrap who's desperate for conversions

>>534376417
an anecdotal + irrelevant tweet isn't a refutation of statistics, you retarded muzzdog
muzzdog inbreeding causes retardation
>>534376418
heres the fellow muzzdog showing up to give moral support to his retarded brother

>>534376405
Why do you care? It's for them to decide.

>>534376419
>here to preach pisstianity
>spends his time hurling insults at people pointing out obvious contradictions

>>534376416
around 9% for the latinos

>>534376420
Why do you care whether someone cares? It's for them to decide.

>>534376421
calling out your retardation isnt "preaching" you inbred muzzdog
>obvious contradictions
what "contradiction", you inbred muzzdog?

Even the most rabid cucktheist here doesn't have a positive outlook on christianity, it's not a consideration at all
That being said mosques still fill up to the brim here at all times with various age groups.

>>534376423
because you're polluting the board with your propaganda

Also it's funny how your OP image points out to christians being culled down in MENA but your only takeaway is "hurr 3-4 retards converted we won"

>>534376414
Id imagine most of those are prison converts for when Muslims find the Latino chomo population there and then enlighten them that 9 years of age might actually be a little too old for Mohammed

Its a bold strategy

>>534376422
Wow, you are incredibly stupid
The link says
>9 percent of the country's Muslims are Latino converts
That doesn't say anything about what percent of Latinos have converted
We need to start teaching basic numeracy and statistics again

>>534376419
>an anecdotal + irrelevant tweet isn't a refutation of statistics, you retarded muzzdog
As opposed to... *looks around* Nothing in favor of an even deader religion? You haven't posted anything.
You're so immature, lol.

>>534376424
>uncited statistic
>vast majority of arabian apostates adopting atheism
>obvious tradcrap nonsense (looking for converts)

>>534376425
Im an atheist and I vastly prefer christians to you nutjobs, its not even close dude. Jesus was an okay guy, Mohammed was a schizophrenic pedophile warlord and your worldview would demand my execution or conversation. You guys actually suck, it should be illegal to be Muslim

>>534376426
>propaganda
Lol. Are you a muslim whose feelings got hurt or something?

>>534376432
What is the taqiyah version for christianity
Yeah whatever that is, you're doing it rn

>>534376434
he's either a religious white or a hispanic, so iq <90

>>534376425
>>534376427
>muslim lying like he breathes
They call this "taqiyya"

>>534376405
They're adopting Protestantism and similar heresies, unfortunately.

>>534376434
It has none, unlike your religion

>>221201763
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/221200573/#221201763
LOL this nigga deletes his post after realizing how retarded it is
If I start a cult with a Latino, 50% of my cult is Latino
That doesn't mean 50% of Latinos are in my cult
Muslim inbreeding and innumeracy is a real problem

>>534376434
>if you dislike my backwards rape religion then you must dislike all religions equally
Nah. Christians are cool, Buddhists are cool, Hindus it depends, and Islam is intolerable. Youre like a swarm of degenerate locusts in any country you inhabit who worship a man that was literally a schizophrenic child raping warlord who probably got killed by one of his own family members which is why you retards even have your dumb little schism to begin with.

Christcuckery is nowhere NEAR the level of actual evil that Islam is.

>>534376429
>That doesn't say anything about what percent of Latinos have converted
Can you read. It's 9%.

>>534376431
>uncited statistic
which one? yours?
>vast majority of arabian apostates adopting atheism
you haven't demonstrated this at all
>obvious tradcrap nonsense (looking for converts)
cope

none of these are contradictions, btw
learn what the word means before you use it, dumbfuck muzzdog

>>534376441
Wow guess you really are retarded LMAO: >>534376439
Another victim of Muslim inbreeding

>>534376440
1 replying three times in a row doesn't give you an upper hand if you're so obnoxious people stop arguing with you
2
>flag
Yeah dude that's YOUR personal opinion
Islam isnt just a cultural religion or family heirloom, it's socially enforced to a certain degree in most of MENA so there is always a theological approach to the reverts here
A mena atheist is more likely to just come back to islam instead of rationalizing christian paganism

>>534376441
Are you retarded?

>>534376441
wrong, you inbred muslim fuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusion_of_the_inverse

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>>534376405
Irrelevant, but i had a friend from ethopia, pretty cool guy always treated like one of his own. Shoutout to you man.

>>534376444
>replying three times in a row doesn't give you an upper hand if you're so obnoxious people stop arguing with you
Not me, moron.
>Yeah dude that's YOUR personal opinion
No dude its an objective fact. Your faggot prophet married a 6 year old then raped her when she was 9, ordered ethnic cleansing and regularly hallucinated random shit.
>it's socially enforced to a certain degree
>socially enforced
Lmao, no you enforce it through violence. Youre a degenerate desert cult of murderers and rapists and the onlt good Muslims are ones that are barely Muslim except in a cultural sense who do not follow the teachings of your literally evil prophet.

Anything I can criticize christians for with their forced conversions and imperialism is 10 times worse with your backwards goat fuckery.

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>>534376445
>what percent of Latinos have converted
9% according to the article.
>>534376446
I'm just stating the statistic from the article.
Here was what gemini said.

>>534376449
Muslim retardation on full display

"9% of Muslims are Latino" and "9% of Latinos are Muslim" are two completely different things, you braindead idiot

>>534376448
>Your faggot prophet married a 6 year old then raped her when she was 9, ordered ethnic cleansing and regularly hallucinated random shit.
Based
>you enforce it through violence. Youre a degenerate desert cult of murderers and rapists
Good
>barely Muslim except in a cultural sense who do not follow the teachings of your literally evil prophet.
Kuffar, not muslims

>>534376444
>christian paganism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5U4vlJG4yxk

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>>534376450
You are a lying christcuck pagan larper. I'm atheist. I hate you christcuck more than this motherfuckers. And I hope the take over and wipe you larpers out. Once again.
>9% of Muslims are Latino
never said this. I just stated what the article said. From your original response.
>That doesn't say anything about what percent of Latinos have converted.
You said percent. And I gave you the conversion PERCENTAGE right here. The percentage is 9%. Even with the confusion of inverse formula applied.

>>534376452
>Literally making up verses to own le heckin muslims
This is the level of discussion we're dealing with ig
https://quran.com/an-najm

>>534376453
You said 9% of Latinos have converted to Islam, you lying piece of shit.

You're a lying Muslim doing taqiyya who doesn't understand fractions.
Go back to school instead of fucking your goat.

>>534376449
Bro 9% of US Muslims being latino doesn't mean that 9% of latinos convert to Islam.

>>534376453
9% of muslims are latino ≠ 9% of latinos have converted to islam
how the fuck are you this stupid?

>>534376454
>muslim doesn't know his own religion
oh no no no
https://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/satanic_verses.htm

https://www.answering-islam.org/Hahn/satanicverses.htm

>>534376456
>Bro 9% of US Muslims being latino doesn't mean that 9% of latinos convert to Islam.
I know. What I'm saying is the percentage of new converts to Islam is roughly 9% which those 9% being latino. According to the article which is misleading.
Better article
https://latinodawah.org/latino-muslim-survey-report/

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>>534376453
>confusion of the inverse formula applied
What did he mean by this
COTI is a fallacy you committed, not a formula you apply

>>534376459
>I know.
No you don't.
>What I'm saying is the percentage of new converts to Islam is roughly 9%
Wrong. You said 9% of Latinos have converted to Islam: >>534376441, >>534376449.
Stop lying because you majorly embarrassed yourself, you stupid piece of shit.

>>534376458
>If i make up and mistranslate shit on the spot i win and you dont know your religion

>>534376462
>make up
>mistranslate
In the age of the internet, anyone can look this up and translate Arabic.
This is why the internet will kill Islam.
Your taqiyya and excuses don't work anymore.

>>534376463
>Doesn't figure in the quran
>Doesn't figure in bukhari or muslim or even ibn dawood or nisai etc
Aka made up

>>534376453
>christcuck pagan larper
God incarnating and leading mankind by divine example while replacing outward, nonsensical superstitious semitic rituals (such as circumcision or the meme of "impure" foods) with a more rational outlook on the spiritual, is SPECIFICALLY what makes Christianity great, and what enable the western man to dominate the entire planet, and I'm saying this as an atheist.
You self-hating reddit faggots are insufferable.

>>534376405
Yep, even within muzzle circles they talk about the "avalanche of apostasy".

Then stats show a massive rise in secularism/irreligiousness IN SPITE OF the massive repression/persecution - coupled with a drop in TFR that far exceeds that of the West.

In about 30-50 years it'll be mostly relegated to a "crazy old fool" kind of thing, with the main people leading what's left of islam being a mix of pakijeets, indonesians, and pockets of diaspoo-rats in the West clinging on to what little they have left of their ummah identity.

>>534376461
Yes I do you faggot. I've said it a million times 9% according the article.
>>534376465
Go be a christcuck then. Mudslimes and Christcucks killing each other is good for the planet.

>>534376466
>Islam will face the same fate as our meme pagan heresy !!! Two more weeks !
Not even in your wildest dreams paco

>>534376407
Get in touch with missionaries and other orgs helping our brothers in MENA, the conversions are huge. I know quite a few underground churches and missionaries across MENA and the situation is incredibly promising.

The internet, which opened up an entire world of research and information + increasing English literacy in the region has allowed many across MENA to actually investigate their religion outside of the extremely tight grip the islamic leaders usually had on information, and islam is so fundamentally broken and inconsistent it can no longer keep scrutiny at bay with violence (its only option).

I know ex muslims, including entire families from Morocco to Jordan, the actual number of muslims is MENA is closer to 30%-50% of the reported number.

>>534376467
>Mudslimes and Christcucks killing each other is good
It's not even happening. The massacres are mostly one sided and coming from muslims, unless you do the reddit meme where you count US foreign policy as "Christian violence".

>>534376469
>know ex muslims, including entire families from Morocco to Jordan, the actual number of muslims is MENA is closer to 30%-50% of the reported number.
KEK !!!!

>>534376464
It was in the Quran, Surah 53:19-23, before your false prophet abrogated it because it became inconvenient.
Guess "God" does change his word, huh?

>>534376465
You're replying to a lying Muslim doing taqiyya

>>534376472
>these are nothing but names you have invented yourselves, you and your forefathers. God has sent no authority for them. These people merely follow guesswork and the whims of their souls, even though guidance has come to them from their Lord.
Oh ok so you're admitting you just made that up, glad we're on similar grounds

>>534376434
Lying is forbidden for christians, even in the face of death, unlike in islam where there are several provisions for lying and entire different forms of deception and subversion (e.g: kitman, hiyal, etc.).

The conception of martyrdom is hence so different:
>Christian martyr: slain, often brutally, often by mudslimes, to not refuse God and submit to hubal
>Muslim martyr: dies trying to take out as many non-muslims as possible in the name of hubal

>>534376432
Based

>>534376467
You said 9% of Latinos have converted to Islam.
You believed this because you are stupid and don't understand fractions.
You got humiliated.
You then lied to try to save face.

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>>221203604
>Caliphate
heart :3

>>534376475
>Christian martyr: slain, often brutally, often by mudslime
Based. Hope some feral immigrant slays you and pisses on your corpse

>>534376478
You cooked these heathens, king

>>534376464
Aren't you the same retard who larps as a muslim but then commits kufr by rejecting almost all sahih hadith from the 6 bigboi books except maybe Bukhari and possibly muslim?

If not, please record yourself going to your imam and asking him if being a quraniyun that rejects the Sitta doesn't make you a murtad kafir.

>>534376471
https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2025/09/11/islam_is_weakening_in_iran_1134383.html
>Iran has long been labeled an Islamic Republic—both politically and demographically—with official statistics claiming over 98% of its population adheres to Islam.

>But independent research paints a different reality. A 2020 anonymous survey by the Gamaan Institute of over 50,000 Iranians found:

>32% identified as Shi’a Muslim

>9% as Sunni Muslim

>Nearly 50% identified as non-religious or having lost their religion

>>534376470
Draft is in December. Bible belt retards that fought in Iraq and Afghanistan will get draft to fight in Iran. Many wearing crosses to "liberate" Iranian Shia fire worshipers. Iranian has a large jewish population as well. Evangelism is also pushing people away from christcuckism in general.
>>534376476
*new converts
You can't read shut the fuck up.
>>534376475
>Lying is forbidden for christians
>proceeds to call me some paki schizo.
You also proved that anons point of christcucks doing taqiyya. LMAO

>>534376474
>playing stupid
The last refuge of the Muslim scoundrel.
>Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza
>And Manat, the third, the other?
>These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries)
>Whose intercession is to be hoped for.

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>>534376478
>t.

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>>534376473
I always wanted to see an intelligent christian (not an atheist, that's boring) try and establish taqiyya from the quranic scripture and sunnah. can you do it, amreki?

>>534376481
Those 50% are both Jews and Atheist. Those fuckers will never be christcucks. LMAO

>>534376482
You claimed that 9% of Latinos have converted to Islam: >>534376441, >>534376449.

Take the L, you lying Muslim pussy.

>>534376481
>Shia
Oh no
Anyways
>>534376483
Please point out what page and verse that is on any existing official musshaf with a screenshot and im ready to make a video with my face and timestamp converting to taoism or cuckstianity or whatever cargo cult of your choice
>>534376484
Nice family photo album pablo

>>534376405
>Islam spread by the sword
There is unironically no evidence for conversion by the sword, or conversion at all. Islam has only ever spread because of the demographic spread of its followers.

>>534376485
>intelligent
>christian
kek
>>534376487
*new converts
And you still can't read.

>>534376482
Okay but
>Bible belt retards that fought in Iraq and Afghanistan will get draft to fight in Iran. Many wearing crosses to "liberate" Iranian Shia fire worshipers
You're definitely a larping muslim though. Why would an atheist care about "shia fire worshippers"? That's a sectarian issue only muslims care about.

>>221204120
>If i repeat it for the 100th time it will become true
The entire premise is flawed since his message was always the destroy paganism in arabia and the world, this is actually the worst angle to attack islam from aside from outright making up shit

>>534376485
I find yelling taqqiya to be the very counterproductive. Aside from the fact that there are different forms of deception (kitman, muruna, tawriya, hiyal, etc.), most muslims lie out of reflex, following the spirit of "war is deception" (as said b myohammed), without it being the fruit of a conscious study of centuries of fuquha.

Also, your question is very unislamic and a trick question, the american would simply need to point to the theological development of the concepts within traditions of the various madhab, as they themselves will argue the position.

Lol, the moroccan got the jannies to scrub the picture of moroccan making love to his monkey bride KEK

What a thin-skinned little 9a7ba

>>534376490
The word "new" doesn't even appear in those posts, you stupid Muslim ape.

And your revision doesn't even solve the fallacy, fucking retard.

>>534376489
lol

>proselytizers are so desperate they copy paste broken latinized arabic words to hope to be taken seriously "look i can speak your language o algo please join my eternal victimhood turning your other cheek cult"

>>534376488
So, you're going to do this? >>534376480

Please make sure to also show up at the masjid and yell loudly "al-TABARI WAS A RAGING SCHIZPHRENIC LYING KEK".

That is what your position amounts to.

The classical position is to say, "yeah that happened but allah swt took him out of that error and he did not persist in it".

>>534376486
False claim followed by a non sequitur.
Sad display of inbred Muslim IQ in this thread.

>>534376497
Oh no, I don't speak darija (sounds like a mix between dogs barking and a pig getting its throat slit).

>>534376407
morrocco's king and royal family don't care if they rule christians or muslims just that they're in charge and have access to western markets for iphones and whores

algeria will become french again

tunisia borders italy

>>534376496
Look at the Ottoman Empire in Europe, outside of a few cases almost all Muslims were Turkish speakers, because they descended from Turks.

>>534376492
>destroy paganism in arabia and the world
By installing a pagan cult to hubal? KEK

islam is quite literally the most anti-YHWH cult out their. Even outright satanists are nowhere near as bloodthirsty and drenched in the blood of followers of YHWH (Christians and Jews).

>>534376495
"new" converts was the entire premise of the argument. You denied it repeatedly like the gay little cross worshiper you are.
>>534376491
Catholic converts to Islam would also be a sectarian issue for Christcucks. According to your logic. Christ is in hell btw.
>>534376499
Christ is in hell. kys christcuck.

>>534376492
Are you stupid? Momo said it when he was weaker in power so the pagans would tolerate him.

>>534376498
>If i make up a boogeyman quranist in my mind and throw around broken arabic words i can escape from bringing up a source that's not a schizo blogpost from 2003 and move the goalpost somewhere else
You're grasping at straws, i can sense your desperation through the screen

>>534376501
Except your fantasy logic ignores that religious people always outbreed the more secular. So as more people become secular in these countries, it actually has the opposite effect by strengthening the more radical elements overtime.

>>534376502
>red herring

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>>534376489
Lying paki. I'm actually shocked, usually the bloodshed is one of the few things muslims are honest about.

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>>534376507
This is why Tartarstan is going to become a nightmare for Russia in the future. Volga Tartar nationalism is inseparable from Islam.

>>534376488
Are you claiming al-Tabari, Ibn Sa'd, Al-Waqidi, and Ibn Hisham all lied?

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>>534376489
>>534376509
I have a full library on the scourge pisslam and mohammedans have been upon humanity, with picrel being a wonderful starting point.

>>534376501
Muslim Mexicans will save America!

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>>534376489
>There is unironically no evidence for conversion by the sword
They've been doing that since the 600s. Half of the history of Southern Europe is repelling muslim attacks and counterattacking. They only calmed down after France and Britain made them stop.

>>534376489
>>534376506
So you accept all 6 Sitta?
So you don't think al-Tabari was a raging schizophrenic lying cunt?

>>534376504
Again, you lying Muslim piece of shit:
1. The word "new" wasn't even in your posts.
2. Tacking the "new" doesn't resolve your fallacy.
I'm glad you're dissuading even more people from Islam by being a lying piece of shit.

>>534376514
What is that city in Italy where there is a museum to the bones of the slaughter of the whole city by mudslimes?

I recall reading an account that was just horrifying. The demonic slaughter and rape of thousands... As always, they lose against an army so they fight against women and children

>>534376504
>Christ is in hell.
Your Quran says God raised him to heaven (3:55, 4:158).

>>534376511
None of these are quran musshafs, or hadith books, none of them relate it from anyone and all their sections start from "it is said" as rumors, not as hadiths or proper recounts
You know what this is called ? Made up.

>>534376509
>>534376512
>>534376514
I'm not really interested in fiction. If we look at well attested Muslim polities, like the Ottomans or Mamluks, they preferred to exploit Christians, rather than convert them, either by taxing them or enslaving them.

>>534376407
>a lie cannot survive freedom of speech
then why are lies so popular in america?

>>534376515
Al tabari was not a hadith recounter/archivist, he was a theologist who tried to explain quran.
The 6 are bukhari, nisai, ibn majah, tirmidhi, abu dawood, muslim
Can you find the supposed hadith or ayah there ? Oh what's that i'm hearing ? "No"
Figured as much

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>>534376519
Wrong.

>1. Al-Tabari

>In his Ta’rikh (History), Al-Tabari records the following regarding the Prophet's desire to reconcile with his people:

>"Satan cast on his tongue, because of what he had meditated in himself and what he desired to bring to his people, two phrases:
>'These are the high-flying cranes (al-gharāniq al-’ulā); verily their intercession is to be hoped for.'
>When the Quraysh heard this, they rejoiced and were happy and delighted at the way in which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him."

>2. Ibn Sa’d (The Tabaqat)

>Ibn Sa'd describes the moment of recitation during Surah An-Najm:

>"When he reached the words: 'Have you thought on al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other?' (53:19–20), Satan cast upon his tongue these two phrases:
>'These are the high-flying cranes; verily their intercession is accepted.'
>The Messenger of Allah continued his recitation to the end of the Surah and then prostrated, and the Muslims prostrated with him... and the polytheists of the Quraysh and others who were in the mosque prostrated because of what they had heard him say concerning their gods."

>3. Al-Zamakhshari (Tafsir al-Kashshaaf)

>In explaining Surah 22:52, he recounts the incident to provide context:

>"It is related that when the Prophet (pbuh) saw his people turning away from him... he sat in a gathering of the Quraysh and desired in his soul that nothing should come to him from Allah that would cause them to flee from him... and he recited: 'By the star when it sets...' until he reached: 'Have you seen al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other?'
>At this point, Satan made to flow upon his tongue:
>'Those are the high-flying cranes; indeed, their intercession is to be sought.'"

>>534376523
jew propaganda

>>534376520
>calls academic texts of history "fiction"
Okay, you're not even being serious, not surprised coming from a pakijeet. Go watch some Zakir Naik o algo

>>534376525
Correct, she was a little younger given the timekeeping mismatch.

He married a 5 year old and banged an 8 year old.

>>534376526
Yes poorly attested history is basically fiction. Why focus on the mythical history of Early Islam instead of the Mamluks or Ottomans?

>>534376523
Don't forget Momo the pedophile sexually thighed her even before then:

>She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed his [male] member between her thighs and massaged it softly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers.

>Aisha reported: "The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) married me when I was six years old, and he mufākhadhah (thigh-contacted/embraced) me and kissed me [before the age of 9], but he did not enter me."
- Sunan Abu Dawood 2123

>>534376524
>Not tied to hadiths in the sahih or even a hadith hassan
>No mention of the name of the recounter or line of retellers
>None of them were contemporaries
Into the trash kek
This is like arguing against a christian based on mormon books or apocrypha

>>534376525
> "Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death)."
- Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 (and similarly in Sahih Muslim)

>>534376528
>schizophrenic paki calls the entire field of History bogus
Holy shit I'm dying of laughter

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Even AI agrees with me.

>>534376518
WTF doesn't this prove the Christian narrative to be false? And that Christ didn't rise?
Christcucks is this true!

>>534376528
>mythical history
Muslims will deny their own history in a debate
The absolute state of Dawah bros

>>534376535
I'm not a Muslim. I am a /his/torian.

>>534376533
fountain magazine is on the case!

>>534376534
Bizarre response.

>>534376530
Are you mentally ill or just trying to lie? Lmao

Do you seriously think only muslims know what tafsir is?
Do you think the greatest mufassirun aren't known by people that criticize islam?

And I was right, you ended up throwing your scholars under the bus (even though we both know behind closed doors you wouldn't)

>>534376530
>the most renowned Muslim scholars all lied
Ok.

for christians, the old testament is something that is sometimes really hard to defend with all the genocides etc
I dont know how muslims defend their shit

>>534376537
Please, show me examples of mass-conversion to Islam in Anatolia or the Balkans.

>>534376533
>generally preferred
>generally

>>534376535
>History is fake o algo except for when that mentally ill hallucinating bedouin would discuss bronze age history, that was totes true
Dose of Truth needs to add this to the latest dawah fails compilation

>>534376534
christians don't accept the quran, stupid goatfucker. you do.
you contradicted your own quran.

>>534376542
why don't you just ask your robot friend again, chump?

>>534376536
>I'm not a Muslim.
Yes you are.

>>534376520
>Invading countries and extorting the inhabitants with the same tactics mafia bosses use to subjugate populations is not forced conversion
Redditbabble.

>>534376504
It's everything about you. Something is off and you're clearly not being honest.
The way you insist on insulting weird branches of Islam which no atheist gives a shit about besides muslims gives you away as a sunni.
The way you attempt to upset me by insulting elements of Christianity despite knowing that I'm an atheist gives you away as a retard.
Then there's the multiple ESL spelling mistakes, but since you're retarded and posting under an american flag I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

>>534376451
>>534376478
This is Islam. This is the Muslim when he's honest.

>>534376539
Dude you thought tabari was one of the 6 books of hadith LMAO you're backtracking now since you cant bring up a hadith that retells the story. This conversation shouldve ended here >>534376515 since you're clearly not well read or here >>534376480 since you're clearly coming with a personal vendetta against a random anon whom i assume btfo you
This is just a heads up that just because you know a couple of broken words in arabic that you use in grammatically eroneous contexts doesn't mean you're knowledgeable or an authority.
A mufassir is someone who tries to explain the quran with as many ressources as they can.
In his "tarikh" al tabari says
> ومنهم الطبري في تاريخه بقوله: "ما يكن في كتابي هذا من خبر ذكرناه عن بعض الماضين مما يستنكره قارئه، أو يستشنعه سامعه، من أجل أنه لم يعرف له وجهاً في الصحة، ولا معنى في الحقيقة، فليعلم أنه لم يؤت في ذلك من قبلنا، وإنما أُتِي من قبل بعض ناقليه

Tl;dr : if you read something fishy or unsourced, know that it's just "gossip" or recounts from randoms and that i dont endorse it
This is a massive case of dunning kruger if i've ever seen one. You're not knowledgeable enough

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>>534376546
>He can't prove it.
>>534376547
Prove it.
>>534376548
>Invading countries and extorting the inhabitants with the same tactics mafia bosses use to subjugate populations is not forced conversion
Yes indeed that is not conversion, it's subjugation.

I AM NOT MUSLIM! I am a white ANGLO-SAXON /his/torian! I am not trying to defend Muslims I am trying to point out the reality of their history of subjugating Christians!

dawahbros, this thread is making us look terrible

how do muslims in this board defend the story of Mohammed getting ass raped by dark skinned men?

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>>534376553
They were Pakistanis, you do the math.

>>534376410
>le atheists just want to le sin
lol

>>534376551
>I AM NOT MUSLIM!
even worse: you're a canadian /v/tard

>>534376553
dont victim blame

>>534376551
Blaspheme Muhammad, the Quran, and Allah in the strongest terms possible and explain why.

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>>534376558
How about you prove to me you aren't a Volga Tartar first.

Declare Volga Tartars to be mudslime invaders, but also being mudslimes is their best quality because more importantly they are mongoloid mestizo invaders. Germanic Flemish chads should kill all Volga Tartar men women and children,

Go ahead, say that.

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>>534376493
>it's a trick question
I didn't intend it as such, it was a learning opportunity for him, to familiarize him with Islam and it's actual teachings.
Away from his comfort zone of spamming one liners.
For matters of the soul, people should be above these reductive campaigns causing social discohesion.
statements like,
>muslims lie out of reflex
are rhetorics that stem from a saviour complex, not compassion. It is internally incoherent with the actual christian faith, and a poor reflection of your belief system.

But good luck on your preaching efforts and missionary team in spain and MENA.
Just the same, I'm certain my brothers in faith, from all over the world will spread the word of God, for everyone who blames their misfortune and finds himself alone, their dawah will find them. Maybe slowly at first, but eventually they will win over the hearts of many.

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>>534376551
>It's not conversion, it's subjugation done in such a way that it pushes you towards conversion

>>534376489
>>534376502
>>534376520
>>534376533
>>534376551
Muslims lie like they breathe.

>In the 12th century, the Almohad Caliphate rejected the traditional Dhimmi status (the "protected" but second-class status of Christians and Jews). Their founder, Ibn Tumart, preached a fundamentalist creed that left no room for religious pluralism.

>The Ultimatum: Upon conquering a city, they frequently offered a choice: Conversion, Exile, or Death.

>The Impact: This led to the near-total disappearance of organized Christian communities in North Africa and forced thousands of Jews to live as "Crypto-Jews," appearing Muslim in public while practicing Judaism in secret.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almohad_doctrine#Treatment_of_non-Muslims

>During his siege against the Normans in Mahdia, Abd al-Mu'min infamously declared that Christians and Jews must choose between conversion or death.[1]:173 Likewise, the Almohads officially regarded all non-Almohads, including non-Almohad Muslims, as false monotheists and in multiple cases massacred or punished the entire population of a town, both Muslim and non-Muslim, for defying them.[1]

>>534376559
>dodge
QED.

why do muslims shamelessly lie so much

>>534376561
No people don't generally give up their faith for tax breaks, historically speaking. It resulted in lower birth rates, emigration, etc. which in tandem with higher Muslim birth-rates and immigration resulted in demographic shifts.

Mudslimes are rarely just "converts".

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For instance if the Palestinians were just converts they'd look white like the Crimean Karaites who are actual descendants of ancient Jews.

And if that's not the case than the mongoloid Tartars would have to look like the Crimean Karaites but they don't either.

>>534376504
>>534376482
>durhurr crosscuck crossworshipper crosskike *starts randomly seething at shias*
lmfao go back to /mena/ faggot, you're terrible at this

>>534376560
Will you continue to imprison, torture, execute, expel, mow down, behead, bomb, and beat up Christians for practicing Christianity?
Is that what you and your religion call love?

>>534376563
Tartar loving subhuman. This suggests you are a mestizo.

>>534376566
>>534376567
Your jig is up, lying Muslim.

>>534376562
Moorish Spain was never significantly Muslim, as far as I know, so it just isn't true that there were mass-conversions.

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>>534376571
You are a mestizo who sympathizes with Mongoloid mudslime invaders in Europe.

>>534376572
Yup they ruled it for 700+ years through telepathy

>>534376572
>non sequitur
>goalpost-moving
You're terrible at this, lying Muslim.

>>534376566
Not sure how I'm supposed to reply to sophistry this bad. Everything you're describing is coercion.

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>>534376569
amreki I'm sorry you've suffered so much. You should rally behind your goverment so they can bomb brown kids in the middle east..to save humanity

>>534376576
>Everything you're describing is coercion.
Yes but not conversion. You're a dumbass.

>>534376570
>>534376573
You're really bad at this, muzzie.

>>534376577
That's what I thought.

>>534376578
>More bad sophistry

Legendary melties ITT. Has to be a monthly record at least

watching muslims backed into a corner is hilarious

we will cleanse the world of infidels inshallah

>>534376555
No they dont, but theres a lot of ex christians and ex Muslims who fall into that because the only thing they had to justify not destroying themselves with drugs and sex was God. You can be an athiest and have self control and a foundational moral basis, its not continengent on belief in god but athiests falling into hedonism and nihilism is a problem for many.

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>>534376580
Was i supposed to humour (or humor as you say it) your hysterical thesaurus-based rant?

>>534376584
Try cleansing your butt first, Ahmed.

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>>534376405
In your dreams, crosscucks will be wiped out.

>>534376586
>continues to prove the point

>>534376587
I cleans it with your sister's face, infidel dog

>>534376588
>gave up the act

>>534376589
An eye roll is all I can offer at this point

>>534376585
Maybe we can salvage a decent discussion from this ruined thread. Why do you think hedonism and nihilism is le bad if you're also an atheist? I'm not talking about on a societal level I'm saying that purely as an individual why shouldn't i go down that path?

Hard mode: no appeal to nature/tradition
I'm not muslim btw

>>534376592
Yes, I know that's your reaction to Muslims constantly massacring Christians around the world for practicing Christianity.
You are evil and so is your religion.

>>534376588
kek I was wondering when this other demented /mena/ lolcow would show up

>>534376593
>I'm saying that purely as an individual why shouldn't i go down that path?
No one's stopping you but you.

>>534376407
Yeah, carry out punishments against the schisming masses, where they will eat alive the few imams brave enough to still reproach them.

>>534376405
>MENA will be Christian again in your lifetime.
It's not enough, all Muslims in all countries must convert to Christian Universalism.

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>>534376591
>act

muslims show their true face when you corner them lol
a demented murder cult

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>>534376594
I don't know how to respond to this embarassing bait effort.

Meet me outside your premier burger establishment (mickeyDees) and let's throw down hands (don't worry, it's a just-war(tm)).
Winner has the better religion.

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>>534376497
kek what a subhumans

>>534376593
>Why do you think hedonism and nihilism is le bad if you're also an atheist
Because theres other orders of objective morality you can reason out which are still pronatalist, expound virtue ethics, and come from a higher moral order which is beneficial for all from the level lf individual to society that dont need to come from divine command. Self destruction just on the basis of game theory is inherently terrible for the individual and society at large , you can make appeals to emotivism, and you can expound on the expansive positive experience of discipline in life all without god involved.

>>221206733
Christianity also commands you to kill the wicked and engage in holy war

>>534376455
>>534376436
most posters are too innocent to recognize a pattern, but several of the western flags ITT are obvious /mena/ or /pig/ regulars, like the "american" who mysteriously seethes at shias, or this embarrassing canadian faggot with the ISIS themed soyjaks. you're not talking to "atheists", it's muslim diasporas kek

>>534376603
None of the examples you listed are objectively immoral

>>221206869
>objective morality
How? Based on what? Please don't get into big philosophical words because i find it gets to just building off abstractions and making the abstractions a tangled web to build "objectivity" off of when their starting premise is pretty subjective from the start
>beneficial
The meaning of this unfortunately differs between people. If life has no ultimate purpose and we're just hairless monkeys on a floating rock in an infinite ocean of cosmic nothingness then one could argue basically any and all positions as "beneficial" in the moment because life is VERY short and there's nothing to account for after it's finished so why not maximize the limited time on our watery rock?

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>>534376405

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What happens to false prophets
Surah Al-Haqqah (69:44–47)

How Muhammed died
Sahih al-Bukhari (4428)

>>534376406
Kick them into the ocean where they'll drown to death instead.

>>534376529
Ew pol,
But can you recheck this anon?

I don't think so.

The difference between christcucks and mudslimes, is that christcucks are unironically cucks who get trampled on, get murdered and forgive their trespassers, and who have their children wanting to rebel against their traditions.

Mudslimes don't tolerate apostasy, don't tolerate their women speaking out of line, murder pity their children who go against their culture, boost the men, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, can get away with all of this because libshit whites are willing to import them and let then get away with their antics.

>>534377642
lol Islam will disappear when boomer MENA’s die.

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>>534376405
>DEUS VULT

>>534377925
>Boomer MENAs
Its not the boomer MENA walking out in the streets policing kafirs, raping women, flooding mosques, exploding themselves, and catfishing faggots so they can beat them in the streets like in Australia.

Its all young fighting men, and they are in Europe too, raping your women.

>>534378418
Really? So why is the leader of Islam the Saudi clown prince a crypto-Christian/jew/atheist who has a Jesus painting?

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>>534378586
Why are you indian?

Cucktianity isn't much better. These regions would be better off following native, pagan and/or non-Abrahamic faiths, if any religion at all.

Abrashamic religions are the blight of humanity

>>534376405
I don't care which brand of Judaism brown people follow.

>>534379105
Stupid heathencuck.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TVENkH6AsYgT-CYuaZRqGjl

>>534376407
Berbers don't particularly like islam, and they have well-armed paramilitary groups; if they convert away en masse nobody can stop them.

>The Gospel and the Torah has been corrupted but we decided to include it in our Book that is meant to be the perfect word.
>btw believing in the Quran is not enough! You need to learn about the Hadiths as well!

How

>>534376406
Shut up kike

>>534376405
Desert mythology sisters... We're going home

>>534376501
>Algeria will become french

You want it to be one way, but it's the other way habibi

>>534379161
That's because you're stupid and ignorant.
Islam is by far the most evil, violent, and inbred (IQ lowering) religion on the planet.

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>>534376406
This is a Muhammad

The Islamic Dilemma has buried Islam. Christ is king!

Based

>>534376555
I don't think he meant it like that. When you think about how repressed the average Muslim is, especially the women, it makes sense that they would do some degeneracy when they leave the religion. It's not necessarily because le atheist bad, although they are largely retarded. This can be proven by spending a weekend in Prague.

>>534378418
>Its all young fighting men, and they are in Europe too, raping your women.
I know you're probably an Israeli or something behind that flag but people need to focus on this point. These young men aren't in their home countries anymore. They're abroad. Which is why Arab countries are modernizing, the radicals have mostly fled to the west. Think of El Salvador, but instead of imprisoning the criminal population the Middle East simply exported them elsewhere by cooperating with the Israelis.

>>534377185
?

>>534376405
Christianity is not a real religion. It is kikeslavey and hedonism with pagan beliefs dressed up in monotheistic themes

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>>534384969
You lost, heathencuck.

Jesus rose from the dead, and that's a proven historical fact.
Christianity is the true and correct religion.
We will continue to spread it, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

Christianity is true.
God is real.
Demons are real.
Hell is real.
Heaven is real.
Jesus is Lord.

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/scholarly-writings

https://laurazpowell.org/blog/just-the-facts-maam-the-minimal-facts-argument-for-the-resurrection-of-jesus

>The best explanation for the facts agreed upon by virtually every scholar of every religious persuasion and worldview who has studied the evidence is that Jesus actually rose from the dead. If someone wants to dispute this, they must deal with the evidence, including the criteria for historical reliability, and offer some reason why this explanation falls short or provide a better explanation for the facts.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=12syh8dPOto

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JzklRPDfAj0

>>534376406
>we'll kick em back to europe
They're not Israeli.

>>534376405
>MENA will be Christian again in your lifetime.
Something way more interesting than this is that people are converting having seen Christ himself in visions and particularly dreams. A lot of the Middle East is having this. In conventions where new converts learn to secretly set up an underground church, literally every single person has this experience.

It even happened to me, and I converted on the spot after seeing Christ's face on my wardrobe after wanting to kill myself.

It does lead me to wonder if Christ is doing this for some unbeknownst reason right now, or if people have just become really susceptible to Christ, since we're all so lost and depressed now. For me though, I used to call him a "Kike on a stick" and hate Christ and Christianity, so I'm leading towards the first one.

>>534383959
Nevermind, I'll let you get away with it this time