Is roiding a form of troonery?Why are young men increasingly obsessed with roids?
>>534378168Most guys i know take roids to look average
>>534378168Looksmaxxing, in general, is a feminization of men. Historically, women have mainly been valued for their looks. Now it’s changing into the same for men.
>>534378168Because it's a mog world out there.You have to have more money than your peers, more mass than your peers, look better than your peers. Women no longer date down or their looksmatch. Women now date only up.With that being said, he's gone too far, and left was obviously on gear too. Should have maintained left physique.
what do you mean by troonery
>>534378168He looks like he’s gonna take a fat ogre shit
>>534378168GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I WISH WOMEN WOULD DO THIS SHIT. I WANT MY MUSCLE BABIES AND MUSCLE MOMMIES!!! I'LL BE THE FUCKING MUSCLE DAD AND WE WILL BE ONE BIG HAPPY MUSCLE FAMILY!!!
>>534378354europeans from ancient times have always been obsessed with looks
>>534378168yes. any hrt,peptides,roids,surgeries,lifting, etc is troonery.
>>534378168gateway to troonery. steroids and injcting test makes you a sexual deviant all body buikders confess, tgey get rage and cuck fantasies at the same times. also they gkaze each other like sodomites
It's funny that they work so hard to look repulsive. Peak physique is that of the 'silver age' of bodybuilding- after that they started to look like grotesque farm animals
>>534378280I kinda want to roid just to see what it's like
>>534378471Kek if your on roids is just a matter of time before you troon.Surest way to shrivel up your balls
>>534378168It's body dysmorphia for sure, at the very least. I'm calling it pathological because it goes way beyond just "improving your appearance through exercise" into assuming massive amounts of risk for physical appearance. Slamming gear is the straight male equivalent of getting a sketchy BBL in South America.
>>534378451Taking hormones to change your physique.Men taking hormones to look like women + men taking hormones to get big = troons.
>>534378541That's the sign that gives it away as a mental illness. Body dysmorphia is wild.
>>534378280Im full natty just autistic enough that i conviced myself to buy bench and set of adjustable dumbelss one time and worked out religiously for last 10 or so years of selfinduced social isolation.People always think im on gummybears but no, just everyday workout for years on end.I dont even push heavy, i lift medium weights in sets of 10 topsBut i start counting reps when pain kicks in
I’ve never understood roiders.Whatever gains you get on gear go away once you get off gear + now your endocrine system et al. is likely fucked for life and you produce less test than your previous baseline Sounds like taking a quick loan with 50% compound interest to buy a cool TV fast instead of just saving up
>>534378168roided dick doesn't work anyway so what's the pointis he gay and doing it for the dudes?
>>534378509Ook, but males value to society was totally dependent upon looks, women’s value was/is.Clavicular is as deranged as any tranny.
These niggas look like cows>left to right progressready for the slaughterhouse
It's called insulin and Chinese generics
>>534378280It takes consistently training 3-4 days a week for at least two-three years to look like the left, so that way you have a CHANCE at looking like the right. The rights heart and internal organs are also x3 the size of the left and probably -40 years off their life. Multiple cardiac events are guaranteed before 40yrs old, one of those could be fatal. Oh and he can’t get his dick hard without help anymore. Still worth it?
>>534378645As long as I have kids it won't matter. It's just one less weakness and no longer will fear getting kicked in the balls. I will train my family to crush our enemies. We will lift our way out of poverty.
>>534378509And they were fags back then too. Real men don't obsess over the opinions of women.
>>534378168Yeah, it makes you infertile and eventually you grow huge ass boobs.https://youtu.be/ie8VV-3SY-k?si=Zgs086_QhCJCcExINot only that, but a lot of them are not as strong as skinny lifters.
>>534378168>Is roiding a form of troonery?The blast and cruise lifestyle definitely is.>>534378755>Whatever gains you get on gear go away once you get off gearWrong.>>534378759>roided dick doesn't work anyway so what's the pointWrong.
>>534378385>you have to have more mass than your peersdid ur mum tell you that?
Taking steroids as a man with already healthy hormones is basically male to male transition but only if they're doing it out of a place of insecurity. Like they don't feel like enough of a man with what they were given naturally. But there are also dudes on steroids because they want to have the best athletic performance in their chosen sport.
>>534378697This. That troon in RI who killed a bunch of his family members looked like he was on roids or had been previously. Working out should be done to maintain strength and feel good, not to transition into some kind of monster.
We should be roiding our cattle and chikkuns againRemember what girls boobs were like back in the day? Men in the south became taller and had bigger dicks and dominated in football because it
>>534378759Roids make men infertile while taking them.That roid freak is raw dogging every girl around him
>>534378354Ugly men don't get to know what it's like to be loved so I understand 100%
>>534378280That's because they use it to speed run a natty physique. It's at least better than fully roiding out like in OPs pic. They'll get to live longer at least.
>>534378759>Let's just pretend things like viagra don't exist. ED isn't even a issue anymore unless you have a mutilated dick.
>>534378168I'd rather be a pretty girl.actually I'd love to be a girl
>>534378168>Is roiding a form of troonery?>Why are young men increasingly obsessed with roids?yes literallyits tampering with body hormones, and roided dudes are always in some chemical psychosis battling estrogen disasters in their body>PIC RELATEDis the female equivalent to trooning outmuscle women hitting double-bi poses or 'flexing' in generation is gag inducing, and literal fem-trooning
>>534378280The average roid taker is a middle aged tub of lard with a limp dick.
>>534378354And so what's the problem with feminization?Eating healthy and self-care is appreciated by everyone. Only jews promote looking like dysgenic fat slobs.
>>534379307>transition into some kind of monster.All trannies are monsters.
>>534379764You'll be neither. Now make sure to tie the slipknot nice and tight so it can hold your fat ass and give you the death you deserve.
>>534379806wow
>>534378759Tell that to all the companies selling testosterone and testosterone boosters
>>534379753>take drugs to do more drugs just so some whore let you hit itlmao now you'll say that heart attack at 45 was worth it because of all the pussy you got
>>534379884>Tell that to all the companiesI'm sure they put in enough jewish small print to make them immune from any problems
>>534379884They do it because they get you on test, give you zero post cycle therapy, fuck up your nuts, and then sell you dick pills. It's a long term business model designed to keep the subject indebted to pharmaceutical drugs forever.
>>534379806Also in order to have visible abs, women have to drop to very low bidy fat levels, so low that it actuallg disrupts their bodies natural hormones and they literally stop ovulating. This is why most guys generally find muscle women instantly unattractive. Theyre literally infertile.
>>534378848if you never worked out beforeIf you were on that level and drop lifting for 2 years you need year of training to hit it again
>>534379939Yeah he'll die earlier, but that wasn't the scope of your argument. You said his dick won't work. He'll be just fine.
>>534378168He looked better natural
I'd use roids if it wouldn't fuck up my heart and colon.
>>534378168Left is significantly cuter.
>>534380024It's called body dysmorphia.
>>534378848I look like right and it's taken me multiple years of blast and cruising. I also have a cardiologist do a yearly check of my heart for LVH and quarterly bloods. PCP loves me because I'm not the standard fat ass or a boring natty and something that gives his medical education a stretch.All of my labs look great and my heart is arguably better than when I started. HCG taken three times a week has also helped me sire 2 kids. So tell me natty, why does being a roid tranny make you seethe?
>>534380020>You said his dick won't workthe scope of the argument also was not >his dick will work but with viagrathanks for conceding the point that roids make your dick not work
>>534380088There's definitely something about the severely autistic and inability to admit fault that needs to be studied
>>534380084Probably knows he's still a pussy so keeps going forever
This dude looks like he does G4P now.Also one of my friends starrted cycling and within 4 months went to cruising spots so suck strangers cocks. The roids to gay pipeline is very real.
>>534378755Most bros that roid blast and cruise. IE they go down to TRT levels when not blasting and still maintain their muscle levels. Blasting and going natty is a waste of time.
>>534378759>roided dick doesn't work anyway so what's the pointThat's not how it works.
>>534380087One day you'll just die suddenly and your cardiologist will be baffled and then use you as a learning experience
>>534380188its exactly how it works that why viagra is there for
>>534380188>That's not how it works.yes the dick not-works, what's your point
>>534380142You must have been shocked to see him there
>>534378168ok but why would you ever want a disproportionate body tho?
>>534380235>>534380246>guys I know how it works, I read about it on Reddit
>>534380235>is there for take drug to get musclestake drug to get make dick work take drug to sleeptake drug to wake uptake drug to shittake drug to stop shitting okay lmao
>>534380310>guys I know how dicks work, I saw it on TikTok
>>534378168Roids are the first step to becoming a fag. Not even joking. That shit fuck up you hormone balance
>>534380195Quite literally impossible when my calcium score is 75 in my late 30s, my heart modeling shows zero LVH, blood pressure is 115/75, HCT is 47 and steady, and lipid/cholesterol profiles are always in range — and probably far better than yours. But keep on coping. Meanwhile I I just benched 350 last week and keep a 6 pack year round while enjoying a burger and fried food every now and then.
>>534378168It’s sort of similar.Probably some dysphoria, a lot of insecurity or self hatred, a little depression or OCD perhaps. It’s taking the aesthetic sense of what makes a man look good to its extreme and can only be because of something wrong inside.But troonism is this multiplied by 100. Plus the troons also have that hidden evil motivation of wanting to trick straight men into being faggots, possibly as a way of them normalising their own sexual degeneracy. If they can get a straight man to be a faggot then there’s no shame in being a faggot. I think they ought to hang for such things.
>taking roids for vanitythe gayest shitnot to performnot to competenot to play a sport professionallyjust so you can look at yourself in the mirror and go "gee, I sure am muscular"
>>534380459No way you look like him and bench 350, I'd be very ashamed to be that large and only bench that much. I do 350 very easily as a natural, and I get satisfaction from it because I earned all that myself.t. natty since I started working out in 2002
>>534380027The best part about roids is the large amount of disinformation around them which keeps the vast amount of normies away from them. It also helps cull retarded zoomers and low IQ retards too poor to buy ancillaries, do labs, and visit specialists to push the boundaries of what a natty body can do .
>>534378168I'd say yes. I lift, and I have a nice, functioning body, and I have 70kg+ of lean mass built on almost 20 years at 6', but even being a bit tubby, I can touch my back, can walk and run without wobbling like a penguin and have merely regular 2 going to 3 norwood scale male pattern baldness @40yo, take no drugs besides some stuff not to suffer with gas for eating the wrong thing, and I dont look like I've been chewing bees since 1990, so I can have a fat chest that look like developed muscles.
>>534380582Post body with time stamp you lying nigger.
>>534378168>a form of troonery? YesTaking hormones is for pozzed pharma-slave bugmen with low T from porn and drugs.
>>534378541The left photo actually looks pretty good if you ignore the tats
>>534380634Plus the twinks becoming addicted to your roid loads wanting to be like you
>>534380403dobra morda cwelu bo nie masz pojecia o czym pierdolisz>>534380157That's not entirely true. If you blast way past your natural ceiling, even though it slightly increases due to the creation of new muscle nuclei, you will still downsize on TRT. That amount of anabolic hormones in your system is just not sufficient to hold onto that much mass. Even if you stay within what would be considered your natural limit, you will probably lose like 20-25% you can however retain a significant degree of gains on a cruise as long as you continue training and eating properly and even after the temporary loss you will still have made more gains than if you were natural (although you will lose some water retention and the permanent pump). It also depends on which compounds you use. Wet orals like Superdol, Anadrol or Halo will give you quick strength and size gains that are completely temporary and will quickly wane away once you cease the use (which you will have to after just a few weeks if you don't want to destroy your liver). Dry compounds like Masteron or Primo will give you nice gains that you will be able to hold onto even after coming off but you will make significantly slower progress to the other ones.
ITT people that have never done gear
>>534380679Seething natties gonna seethe
>>534380520Athletes do it all for vanity too
>>534380663Not saying I'm a roid monster you retard although I do look pretty impressive I guess. People see me as someone who actually works out instead of seeing a juicer
>>534378168Muh artificial hormones!looooooool.
>>534378385youre forgetting many women paid steep price for their stupiditymeaning many stupid women were killed or died in myriad of ways because of their stupiditythis is why you should celebrate premature death of every western foid and actively advise them into self harm then sit aside and laugh at their suffering
>>534380668I agree, he has an excellent physique on the left. Once he achieved that, his objective should have changed to maintaining rather than adding more mass
>>534380463You're not gay if you're actually a woman trapped in the wrong body. There's no reason to be ashamed of sucking dicks if you're actually a woman trapped in the wrong body.There is no shame anymore, when you realise you are actually a woman, trapped in the wrong body. You can bypass all the shame, disgust and self-hatred of being gay when you decide you are actually a woman trapped in the wrong body.
>>534380827> Doesn't post bodyNiggers like you are rife on /fit/ fuck off and go lick the dick of a roo which is clearly more jacked than you .
>>534380737sounds like you're a seething roider to be honest. You can't even work out and have a healthy lifestyle without injecting drugs so you can look the part. Working out without leaning on drugs is actually difficult and obviously too hard for you
>>534378354historically mens bodies have been transformed through physically labour in the fields, cutting wood, carrying weight. In Roman times the legion created men through marching great distances carrying thier kit .. arriving where ever then digging huge defences cutting wood etc .. imagine what that does to the human cardio system
>>534380880It entirely depends on his goal. Left would be ideal to maintain if your entire lifting journey only revolved around looking good in general however if he aims to compete and/or chase IFBB pro card, then it's a different story.
>>534380310your balls stop producing testosteronehealthy erection is not the one you get from roidrage but from arousment.your balls are balls of self castrated tranny formyou know that, everyone knows that.i cant wear short shorts cause my balls scare general population
>>534380948I said I bench 350 easily I didn't say I look like the guy in the OP. I actually broken a couple world records without even caring and know another guy who has a couple too. People out there are doing it for reasons other than showing off, you're so far off you can't even comprehend such a thing
>>534378619Don't. For purely aesthetic reasons you won't get anywhere. You need to already be working hard in the gym and to sit down and figure out appropriate dosages and possibly pct beforehand for test esters. Insulin is easier but might kill you. Kill the jews. HGH is expensive and miiight give you supercancer if you're unlucky. Test is easiest to access and it'll just make you aggressive and give you acne if you're not already a big lad putting in the work.
>>534380723>cweluale po co wciągasz swojego nieobecnego ojca do tej rozmowy?
>>534378168I challenge you to find one roided out gymbro is not also a homosexual. They all fuck little twinks and tell themselves it is about being dominant, and deny it is sexual.Not really troonery, just run-of-the-mill faggotry and the appearance of masculinity over it as a cope.
>>534381043And I said post body which you haven't because you're either some fat power shitter or a LARP.But keep on back peddling
>>534381019tales from Reddit
>>534379991girls who workout and eat good are hot though
>>534381043>I actually broken a couple world records without even caringDon't get me wrong 3.5 plate bench is a great result but it's not even close to any top IPF records in the 52kg manlet weight category, much less in any other.
>>534378168Yes. They're male-to-male trannies.
>>534378523Been a gymbro for almost a decade and just recently dabbled into troon fuckin. Busted my anal cherry in Thailand because they’re small.
>>534380885Women should be ashamed of sucking dicks.
>>534378168Women want to fuck the guy on the leftGay men want to fuck the guy on the rightSimple as that.
>>534381120>if this guy isn't obviously roided he's an idiot who knows nothing and likes to be a phony
>>534381147nigga, stop deluding yourself, look at your balls and google out "oriechtomy"looks same doesnt it?
>>534381405interesting concept
>>534381406Ain't nothin' but a peanut!
>>534378354Looksmaxxing = mouse utopia the beautiful ones
>>534381431Partial atrophy does not affect your ability to get an erection in any way. Also if you really care just take HCG and/or HMG. Fertility is entirely reversible, you can blast gear for 10 years straight and still father children just fine.
>>534378471Some women do take roidsThey basically turn into men lmao
>>534381529likely daughters though
>>534378168transhumanism is the future. Trannies, Roidfags, looksmaxxer and even skincare addicts are all just early stages of it
>>534378168Homosexuality
>>534381427> T deflecting faggot who got called out here for lying >>534381350
>>534380990yeah but they looked nothing like modern bodybuilders. that rotisserie chicken look is unnatural. it just screams premature death by heart disease. the most physically fit men of the old days looked like a streetcorner crackhead with low bodyfat and lean muscle. you can't maintain large mass whilst doing extensive cario via manual labor.
>>534381609Arnold Swarzenigger turned americans gay.
>>534381597There does seem to be some skew, yes, but it's not entirely scientifically documented/understood but anecdotally most of the guys from my gym that I know fora a fact who both used gear and had children, with the exception of a handful, had daughters and not sons.
>>534381584There was some gym survey of people who joined the gym in the past 6 months and something like 40% of men and 39% of women were roiding already. Women 1% less. They're more vain and impatient than men and don't need to worry about natural test levels crashing
>>534381584I have had sex with a woman on steroids and she was still a woman but with the sex drive of a man. It was awesome! She was trying to convince me to do steroids but I told her I want to still have kids so she told me to have kids first and then do steroids. I'm trying to find a woman that is open to having kids and will do steroids with me afterwards. Women on steroids are always want to make boom boom.
>>534381683yeah, if the anecdotes are that damning (which they are) it may as well be true, as a study is likely to never be performed for obvious reasons. i think theres an obvious case for difference between Arnold-tier abuse where you can still father a son and modern BB castration.
>>534381609> all just early stages of itIt's the last phase in the mouse utopia.
>>534378509There was a difference between admiring the perfected natural male form depicted in Roman statues than fan hammering your jaw to make it square
>>534381674They can't even climb a flight of stairs. They can't do a few reps without having a long break and gasping for air, it's quite shocking
>>534378354>Looksmaxxing, in general, is a feminization of menI'm violence maxxing
Women owe me steroids
>>534381774I wouldn't say there's that much of a difference between Golden age bodybuilders and current gen from AAS perspective. We know that most of them were lying about their doses and from what we could gather from these that were honest the dosages and compounds used were pretty similar. The primary thing that makes the difference in the current grotesque mass monster era is primarily HGH and Insulin abuse on top of AAS. But yes, the anecdotal evidence seems to support this claim in general.
>>534378168both pics are rounded, difference is dose and time>>534378737post physique and numbers sir, just curious I'm lifting on and off for the last 2 decades mog every normie but nothing compared to a baby steroids cycle
>>534378541>Peak physique is that of the 'silver age' of bodybuildingNo. This is peak physique.
>>534378168the roids made hin suffer twink death, no he's got a roid moon face like andrew anglin
>>534381906>roundedroided
Ritualistic cheek busting has its roots within the spartan ethos. This makes it not gay as it encourages male bonding and increases survival rate when in battle. The Athenians engaged in pure pederasty. See the difference?
>>534381802well yeah, it's the opposite of actual fitness. they rely on being very sedentary aside from lifting heavy because you grow when you're sedentary and in calorie excess. they essentially treat their body like a GMO livestock specimen. the irony is that it almost exclusively attracts disgusting roided women also. it's definitely some form of body dysmorphia.
>>534378168Looksmaxxing is male troonery.
>>53438045946 year old natural lifter, 5'10, 220lbs370 bench550 deadlift500 squatAll those numbers were a bit higher 10 years ago but idc. I run an 8-minute mile twice a day. I've never juiced in my life. My labs are good, test in low 500s. Cholesterol edged over the line this year so I'm cutting back some. Don't shit on the guys who aren't interested in fucking their endocrine system up. Some of us think there's something meaningful about getting strong the long, slow way.
>>534380990I always found this ridiculous. Go take a look at what most modern farm workers and it's probably not far off from what a medieval peasant looked like. Most physical Labor is just tiring, but doesn't really build muscle.
>>534378168This dude is very very gay..
>>534381958Body dysmorphia is part of it but I think it's just low confidence kids who were bullied and never grown up. They all have that mental softness to them. Not our problem at the end of the day I just don't like how they try influence kids into the wrong path
>>534378168Wanting to look like the right pic is definitely a mental illness of sorts. Its not healthy. I am not against roids in general though, due to all the endocrine disruptors a lot of people just can't build muscle at all anymore. I would support using roids to build a healthy/functional amount of muscle.
>>534381906too autistic for that but slightly smaller than left guyno tats
>>534378385Women never dated down, and men have never dated up. That's a myth that hollywood has sold you. Even Tobey Maguire who is dating a girl 30 years younger than him. You might think, "well he's clearly dating up"No, her net worth is between 100k-1millionHis net worth is 75 million.She's clearly beautiful but Toby has aged very well himself.She's a literal who nobody and he's an incredibly well respected public figureShe's dating up. Women always date up. Men always date down. Could Tobey be dating a super model like Candice Swanepool? No, because Candice Swanepool would be the one dating down, net worth of about $30m, one of the most objectively beautiful women on the planet right now, a massive career of her own. Why would she settle for Tobey when she could have a man worth 3 or 4 times more than Tobey?You see? Women date UP, men date DOWN. It's how it has always been. You just have to make sure, as a man, you're not dating down TOO far, but if you're an "8" overall, money, status, looks, then your wife is going to be a high5 to low 7. That's just how it works. Get used to it.
>>534378619Just take some speed, drink a load of coffee and inject opiates together then go to the gym.Get that cardiovascularity feeling no problem.
>>534382113Nice work nigga
>>534382113so now you're gonna live forever, yeh?
>>534380054
>>534380648Wait? I thought roids weren't hallucinogenic??
>>534378354Male looksmaxxing is trad
>>534381925He's incredibly handsome, that's true. But his physique, whilst attractive, is not impressive or spectacular. This guy on the other hand, looks like a Greek God. I would give my left bollock to look like either though
>>534378168>Is roiding a form of troonery?Good question. It is indeed like taking HRT crap. So yeah, it is largely a form of troonery.Having said that, the problem with HRT trannies is not that an adults might decide to troon out on ocassions... rather that they want to do it to kids.
Women should be looksmaxxing, too. Now that men are into looksmaxxing, we'll have things for women to do instead of wearing their stupid gay makeup. Just don't let the jews control this good idea or they will turn it into some scheme to diminish sexual dimorphism. We want to maximize and enhance sexual dimorphism whenever reasonably possible.
>>534378168Left one should be good enough for an average 4/10 roastie while the right looks like he is starting in a gay porn scene
>>534381890right, i just point at arnold, and maybe there are a few other guys like Oliva etc. that had sons.but of the modern era, like cbum etc? i only know of girls. im not sure how it is for brian shaw/bjornsson i cant remember the gender of their kids. i think bjornsson had boys.
>>534380445>That shit fuck up you hormone balanceEven eating goyslop or having gay worms would fuck up your hormone balance. Being unhealthy in general over little things leads to big problems your health is your wealth.
>>534384937Peak human form should be both male and female as bogged and massive muscle-bound tanks with bulging veins and spray tans
>>534378168guy on right reminds me Eddie Hall, who literally has genetic mutation that allows higher than average muscle growth. If guy in pic's goal is to be that big, sure go right ahead but I don't see the need for it unless you want to explicitly be gigantic
>>534378168He turned him into a gay pornstar
>>534378168there's no benefits, at least the strongman gain money for the trouble of needing to use a respirator to sleep at the night, so much muscle that you need ventilation to breath while you sleep.
Rhetorical question made by a memeflag, and people answer that shit, cheap bait
>>534382604girl
>>534378280I've heard this a lot. Most guys that do drugs barely look like they lift.
>>534378168That's a m2m tranny
>>534386614There’s research orgs that post shit similar to this every week and autistic retards cant scroll past without replying every time
>>534380459when was the last time you had an angiograph?
>>534381925When I looked like that, women ate it up.I wish I knew what I had when I had it.
I lifted weights my whole young and adult life, into my 40s. At times I was into it heavy and it showed, other times I'd quit for a while then get back into it. It was a lifelong thing. Then I got hurt and was prescribed MELOXICAM. For a destroyed knee bent the wrong way. I decided if I might have a bad limp I might as well have a great upper body, and went nuts lifting again. In a couple of months, I made huge gains gettingback into it, I thought I was just "motivated". But when the MELOXICAM ended (several months) my gains started subsiding, I started falling back into what was normal at my age (40s).>It was the MELOXICAM I was on for my ACL/MCL stretches. It acted like a m-i-l-d steroids. I could work out like a nut, and recover better. Generic MELOXICAM is super cheap, and you can get it for a 35 dollar "online doctor" visit and get a prescription.
>>534379710This. It will get you 2 years results in 9 months if you are consistent with lifting and dieting. Things are fucked though in general, what most people consider a “normal” physique is 3 years of intense training and discipline. Normal physique here is actually skinny fat or outright fat.
Yes. We have this discussion approximately daily on /fit/, idk why you're bringing it up here unless you're bored. More of you should read /fit/, it's a comfy board.>>534378471They're called anavarbies>>534378697A lot of these people are gay. Also the ones that roid often develop a taste for fat women, though perhaps this just reflects a general lowering of standards.
>>534378280It works. I gained muscle on trt without even lifting. Unfortunately I'm also much hairier.
>>534378168Congrats, he shaved of 30 years of his life to look like a gay freak with roid gut and face aged +20 years, awesome "fitness" transformation
im underdeveloped and produce very low t, yet doctors wont give me any to get me to...being normal?what a gay country this is, guess im a twink forever
>>534381925I could easily buck break him
>>534388210>Unfortunately I'm also much hairier.Post tummy
>>534382142This, I worked in moving and construction for years and was lean and strong but stayed slim. I took up lifting a few years ago because I felt I was getting out of shape and put on 30lb of muscle by doing it in a structured way. Wish I'd taken it up years earlier but I was put off by roiders and had just ended up assuming I was destined to be skinny.
>>534388417Is this you?
>>534381925>>534384822Women (especially asian women) like that slim boyish physique cause it indicates a high metabolism, good skin etc.>>534387470But it doesn't last. I mean you can stay lean but you should gain some bulk as you age. I mean like an athlete, not the experimental animal in OP.
>>534378168Yes, all gender affirming care has roots in transsexualism. Literally using science to change who you are to fit your ideal gender identity.
