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I want to move to a place where people are still nice and I am safe from brown and homosexual propaganda and socialist policies for the next 20 years. I want to make an IT business and create jobs there.
Is Switzerland a good place to start? Will I and my family be safe there? Are there better options than Switzerland ?
Most of western countries look terrible and people are extremely cucked there. I would stay in Hungary, but it's part of the EU, and the EU is ruining everything I want to do.
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>>534381861
Their immigration policy is completely pozzed. They won’t let you in despite having a EU passport, bozgor.
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>>534381861
I will never be able to go. My fucking sister went there with her swiss husband. She is terrible sister for not bringing me back raclette cheese or chocolate.
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>>534381861
It's miserabel unless you are rich.
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>>534381861

Not anymore. Switzerland is cooked as well. Slower, but cooked.

Last refuge is Chile.
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>>534382141
I'm planning that.
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>>534381861
It's almost impossible to get a work permit, you need to know German, also your neighbours need to recommend you
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>>534382347
Youre one of the people hes trying to get away from
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>>534382589
this. during my holiday there I met an architect living in a camping site because he could not afford a real house
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>>534381861
It's pretty but it's really a nation of bureaucrats. Eastern side is full of bankers. Western side is full of ngos and clock making niggers.
Also stupid expensive so make sure you're getting paid in francs .
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>>534381861
Better than France? Easily.
With Germany it trades blows.
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>>534381861
Stay out you gypsy fuck.
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>>534381861
The whole reason for Switzerland not being in the EU is to keep people like you out.
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>>534381861
>where people are still nice
Then you should stay far away.
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>>534383820
What is wrong with me?
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I will move to switzerland next year. Good luck EU niggers to keep paying for shitskins and socialism.

>>534383604
Nice found my first swizz friend, i fucking hate gypsies
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>>534381861
It’s full of Albanians and also Prattyjeet is shitting up the streets
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>>534383911
what are u gonna do there, did you find a job or what
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>>534383901
> Poor
Why don't you just stay in Hungary? 100% White and Hungarian afaik.
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>>534383901
You live in a post communism shithole and cant sprechen switzer dütsch. The average swizz hates everyone that is not born in 25km radius of his town
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>>534383911
>I will move to switzerland next year
Please dont
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>>534384087
Yes i am well educated. Switzerland pays me 3times my homeland salery
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>>534384120
>Median wealth around $150,000–$180,000 USD per adult in Switzerland
Lol, I have much more than that. I guess you are poorer than me.
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>>534384131
Yeah i still will do that. And i dont give a shit if you like it or not since i am not a faggot. I dont need to be liked, you pay a very good wage and have the best tax regulations. Like me hate me. Look man i am from austria here we hate everyone even you swizz people. If i dont know you 25 years i think you should hang yourself thats what we here call culture and believe it or not swizerland and austria are very similar cultural
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>>534383364
This is nonsense. I worked there for 5 years 2019-2024. You should learn German (or French, or Italian, depending) if you're going to live there, but it's not a precondition for residency. You *may* require assent of the community for CITIZENSHIP (depending on your Gemeinde) but you certainly don't require it for residency or settlement. You need an EU passport and a job offer. A job offer will get you a B-permit (residency). After 5 years you can apply for a C permit (settlement). Don't take any offers under 100kCHF and do shop at Lidl.
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>>534383901
nothing. anon is just insecure and projecting

Switzerland is no starting point for a business if you're a foreigner. you need plenty of assets before coming here. then you may succeed in whatever you're doing. not many chances in IT though
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>>534384407
>not many chances in IT
Literally the best chances in IT to make big money. What a retarded cope, switzerland has 25% imigrants because you pay the best wage in whole europe. Are you swizzniggers retarded? Makes it even easier to fuck you up on the labor market KEK good look swizz boy we are coming for your job
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>>534381861
I think they will hate you there. They even hate germans who work there. They basically also hate people from the next canton or even village. Swiss are like german rural bavarians but on steroids
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>>534384353
Eastern Europeans like you are one of the biggest threats to Swiss wealth that exist. You are corrupt, low trust and you think by feigning to be White nationalists you can slink in and establish yourself while your children or grandchildren will act as fifth column down the line. Just stay where you are. As you said yourself, Hungary isn't that bad.
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>>534384590
tf are you babbling about you mouth breather. start writing like a decent human then we can talk
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>>534384673
They sound exactly like austrians. We are literally the same.
>hate everyone for bullshit reasons
>small minded
>racist
Sounds like my hometowm with better tax regulations and better wages
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>>534383316
As with many western countries, they will only welcome you if you are brown
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you cant just move there.

you have to WORK and provide for yourself there.

you have to have a stable job that has to be executed from switzerland and nowhere else.

also you need to work there for 10 consecutive years, before you can even apply for citizenship.

without the latter you are fucked, because they can and will easily expelled and deported you to your home country in case of war or tension (upcoming conflict with russia).

the process can only be sped up by marring a swiss woman - then you still need to work for 5 years.

germans also have to actively drop their citizenship (you will lose yours automatically), because otherwise they would still become liable to military service in germany, regardless of their 2nd (swiss) citizenship.
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>>534384793
I dont give a shit you retarded mountainjew/nigger. I will move into your shithole and cuck you out of your 200k deskjob
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>>534384673
and the rat bastards are so cheap they drive for hours to come grocery shop outside of switzerland to save a few franks
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>>534384889
He should use a tanning bed and name change to Mehemet for fast citizenship
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>>534384925
incredible how, after all these years, many of you RAUStrians still have such inferiority complexes
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>>534384923
Yes but you dont have any kapital gains tax on your assets. No gay ass nifta (european crypto gains tax). Better wages 120k jobs in IT. Low taxes ~35%. Literally a financial heaven. The people are the same unfriendly village NIGGERS like in austria LITERALLY the same. So why not try your luck? Because mean swizzfaggots on an imageboard dont want you there? Of couse they dont those lazy retarded cunts loose their jobs to high skilled "cheaper" labor from another country. Honestly fuck those cucked loosers
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>>534385172
We come and will take a piece of the pie. Nothing you jewnigger can do about it
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>>534383901
in order to create your own business as a foreigner, you'll have to bring money that you probably don't have yet. it would be way better to deliver your services and get paid in chf in hungary. once you made enough, you could still move there. i've lived there for five years and it was very nice. bit of income is a prerequisite, but you can live relatively comfy with 5K/month. that won't get you into the local shishi golf club though. be prepared to meet absurdly dumb people who are also absurdly rich. takes some stoicism to ignore that and do your thing regardless.
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>>534384776
>You are corrupt, low trust
Sounds like projection. I am pretty sure you like gay and brown people. You are some spoiled kid of rich parents and you never had a job.
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Switzerland is full of pajeets
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>>534385237

sure.
everything is way better than in any of our shitholes.

especially as we are destined to get shredded in the upcoming drone war against russia.

swizzfags will be pretty much the only neutral nation all over the entire west, as they are neither a member of the EU nor NATO.
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>>534385386
>rich idiots
>pays well
>>534384131
>>534384407
Literally those retarded hillbilly niggers are your only competition lmao
Sounds like a cheap 60k pay increase
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should I try moving into switzerland?
my family is not 100% swiss though, mixed from aargau and baden, no passpart anymore due to too many generations in south america
schwatze aber dialekte noch wegn opa seit bübli
money is not the issue, south brazil is amazing to free range and life as a whole, but for raising children in a chill place I'm considering doing so back in aargau or in chile (los lagos is also chill af)
any dachfrens to chime in?
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>>534385237
Isn't it still better to live in germany / austria and commute to swiss for work?
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>>534385386
Thanks anon. You are too good to be a German.
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>>534384938
>hours
20 mins
>to save a few franks
lol no, you've no idea what you're talking about apparently Antonio
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>>534381861
Stay away from the german area
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>>534385617
> switzerland
> chill place for raising kids
anon I...
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>>534385588
yeah, one of my neighbours in berne old town was a danish woman who sold 'astral energy' over the phone. a ponzi that worked amazingly well. a la mike shiva. look him up. hilarious.
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>>534385463
Dont listen to that faggot hungary bro, that swizz faggot is shitting his pants because we cuck him big time the moment we move there

>>534385498
Its allways the best places that have the worst people and vice versa. I rather get paid 120k with low taxes and be sorounded by swizz hillbilly faggots than get taxraped in europe and have "such nice neighbors" honestly fuck those swizz jews
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>>534384673
>Swiss are like german rural bavarians but on steroids
Kek
>>534381861
>>534384590
Why don't you guys do the it jobs remote and live in a poorer country?

Starting up in switzerland needs a huge initial budget.
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>>534385673
Bruh
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>>534385318
>we
never said I don't want to share a piece of the pie with like-minded people, but you're not. you're just an uneducated edgy boy with an internet connection. you're embarrassing, go to sleep
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>>534385463
No Swiss person owes you anything. It's clear you want to move here because you view Switzerland as a giant bag of money. We already performed this experiment with foreign workers when we let in workers from Italy, Portugal and the Balkans. Most of the descendants of these people live off welfare and cause huge social issues. That is exactly why we will never join the EU.
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>>534385650
you'll be taxed in germany and you won't gain niederlassungsfreiheit in switzerland. also you'd need to land a job near the border. schaffhausen or basel. if you have a biology degree that could be the way. but then you could just as well pay rent in switzerland. 2K should get you a nice lil place. many swiss commute for grocery shopping, which the supermarkets near the borders have adjusted to.
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>>534386015
You would gain absolutely nothing by joining the eu, the bilateral agreements you have are far better than anything you could get.

Switzerland was and is in a priviliged position.

So yeah don't join the eu obviously
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Switzerland is really gonna be the last bastion of hope for many people when shit goes sideways everywhere

They already passed a law capping their population at 10 million so I think they know something is on the horizon
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>>534385834
120K isn't a lot there. it's starter level for stem graduates. stem will find a job there, but so will bus drivers, who make about 90K starter salary.
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>>534385650
No because youd have to pay austrian taxes and (((social security))) and its a complete ripoff. The working hour in CH is 74 and 73 in AT yet you earn 3 times the wage in the private sector in CH. Means if you work in the private sector you want to have your tax residency in CH. Especially in IT you can make big money there. Swizz people are not the best workers since they drown in wealth they lack motivation. Just look at how undisciplined and lazzy the niggers in this thread sound. They dont even write a more than a sentence like some stuck up brats. Also a big plus is investing you dont have any tax on kapital gains of any kind. If you compare that to 25% in DE and 27.5% in AT, also its a crypto heaven with 2027 all eu countrys will enforce a 25% kest on crypto gains which makes it impossible to make money on it.

Still some swizz nigger on the internet tells you dont go into IT dont come to swizerland LMAO fuck them
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>>534385834

at this point, i would only care about survival anymore.

most normalfags dont even know how close to death they actually are.
especially in germany.
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>>534386187
we still have to vote for the 10 million inhabitants initiative
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>>534386015
>It's clear you want to move here because you view Switzerland as a giant bag of money.
Projections again. Get a job you lazy fuck!
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>>534386201
Cope its a good salery
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Germany&city1=Berlin&country2=Switzerland&city2=Zurich

Average monthly net €7,424 that around 120k so whats the issue making average zürich wage?
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>>534386245
I'm finishing up a PhD in AI and actually thinking about moving out from this socialist hellhole afterwards. Thanks, will look into it more, have heard a lot of positives but also negatives from people who moved to Switzerland and many eventually moved back to germany (especially if they wanted to raise a family).
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>>534383255
>Chile
>2026
Lmao
People still falling in Chile meme
Chile is a shithole like Argentina and Brazil.
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>>534386245
>IT
another neighbour of mine there ran his own IT business, mainly providing safe storgae space for sensitive company data. many german clients. he also had a contract with the gov, running and maintaining their virtual servers. the gov job paid 1500 per day. the business made about 500K profit. he didn't have any highschool diploma. rich from selling family land. he was member of the shishi golf club. can you beat this? only nepotist connections can.
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albanian thread
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>>534381861
apparently switzerland is full of jeets and arabs now. like half of their new born population is non-white
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>>534381861
Switzerland is paradise on earth, I would live there in a heartbeat. But the people aren't exactly "nice" from an Americans perspective.
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>>534386470
Yeah family is a problem if you want your kids to have public nigger education. In switzerland you make enough to have your tradwife homeschool your kids. Count it up with what you save in taxes and the quality of education you still win in switzerland. Those retarded swizz faggots got weak in their wealth and get replaced by us, a stronger more intelligent germanic stock
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>>534386374
I will never have to work and neither will my children. And we want to keep it that way by keeping people like you out. I also fail to see why an IT business would require you to be in Switzerland physically. I hope you get rejected at every possible administrative level. If you can't manage to make your own country prosperous, don't come and ruin mine.
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>>534386460
it may be a good salary for you. it's not in comparison to what upper swiss employees make. friend of mine worked for swisscom in a daycare job, creating onthologies that were supposedly making internal communication more efficient. he had a degree in geology and made 250K for his daycare job. they go jogging at rosengarten during lunch break. happy people.
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>>534385715
echte Frage
hab da familie und sprech dialekt, da dacht ich, das passt
besuch am grab vom ururopa in bumfuckingen, aargau hat mich erst auf die idee gebracht
hab da ja nie gewohnt aber, lern mich gerne an
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>>534386489
true dat, many such cases
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>>534386556
they are a bit like americans, except they are all rather well off, so it's rare to find an angry one.
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>>534386489
Im also in IT but starting a business is hard these days since everything is controlled by gov contracts everywhere. Best thing is take a normal job, wages are very good and low taxed in switzerland its low risk. And i worked with a swizz company they where under our level but the reason is the customer pays nearly the same but the money doesnt reach your wage in the EU because we have to pay all the shitskins, (((NGOs))) and (((health care)))
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>>534386705
Dont be a faggot. All the factory jobs and especially the farmer jobs are being done by migrants. Soul sucking shitty work. If you dont want migrants start doing that shit yourself you lazy ass pampered ursi bueb.
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>>534381861
This thread reads like how jeets talk amongst each other on their English subreddits. Same kind of entitled, parasitic attitude and no self awareness or honesty with themselves.
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>>534386705
You are a lazy nigger without class or discipline you will be replaced by more high class hard working germanics. Good luck you frail faggot i give your crumbling oldmoney wealth 2 generations you degenerate faggot

>>534386917
This guy gets it. Nothing good ever comes from being a lazy degenerate
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>>534386917
Ah yes the old excuse with the jobs nobody wants to do. And then 10 years later you need to deal with multiple family of Jugos because they don't work or all have backpain and want to leech from the IV. Not worth it. Keep them all out. And send the ones here already back. It's not like they were exploited or even treated badly, Swiss wages are amongst the highest worldwide. Nobody should get the Swiss pass anymore for the next 10-20 years. And then only vetted people from countries with equal or higher wealth levels.
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>>534386705
>I will never have to work
Lol I was right. :D
You are making your own country poorer. You are just a useless eater.
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>>534386936
Dont worry no one want to migrate to your 1200euro a month shithole you brown nigger
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>>534386882
yes, taxation. funny how the richest areas there have the lowest tax rates. try muri if you land in the bern area. i've worked with IBM during my time there, mainly doing courses for IBM partners and doing my own software dev for IBM online collaboration tools. switzerland is a dream in many respects. someone with roots will miss home. which is where i'm now.
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>>534387144
Almost no one lives on welfare in this country. Jugos are even becoming your politicians and police chiefs. Eat your heart out ursi.
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>>534381861
you dont speak french so you cant.
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>>534387093
>>534387153
> Trying to shame somebody for being wealthy and his ancestors having made the right decisions
You are poor because your ancestors made bad choices. We are rich because our ancestors made good choices. Notice how I don't want to immigrate to Hungary, but you are trying to slink in to Switzerland by abusing your race card. Ask yourself why Hungary, which is populated by your own kind, is so poor that you are even considering leaving it and then fix your own country like a responsible White person. That's the minimum requirement for coming to Switzerland.
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>>534387144
Whats your fucking problem? Im bavarian you are alemanni. We are both germanic. Migrants will come since germanics dont breed many kids. I come from a good family my parents have both 220k goverment jobs but the EU fucks the youth over and we leave. I am highskilled diploma everything why the fuck shouldnt i migrate to the last country with decent wage outside goverment positions just because you faggot try to gatekeep jobs that you dont even work??
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>>534387153
maybe he provides jobs with his investments or assets. you never know. best to be polite at all times. i was introduced to old money there and it's amazing what power they hold. few patricians owning the town basically. and the land around it, including family castles. don't shit on people who claim they don't 'work'. they do, just not in ways a wagie can follow.
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>>534386479
don't be deceitful, chile (and specially south of temuco) is still miles ahead in comfyness against brazil, santiago is also a way better service center than sao paulo nowadays
its still better to be young here of course, not ruling against that, but the process of land acquisition and overall land prices means that wealth building is still way better (and less niggerish) down south
>t. catariner in high earning network
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>>534387316
You sound like a retarded nigger my dad never gave me shit despite being rich just that i never be like you he told me he would disown me if id ever turn out like that and honestly rightfully so you are a disgrace to your entire family and to the germanic race
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>>534387403
You are the type of giga nigger npc that goes to war for such parasites and dies and your wife gets pimped out by them.
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>>534387316
>You are poor because your ancestors made bad choices.
Projections again. I am not poor at all. You are poor. Your parents cover your expenses.
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>>534386876
You Germans are way more American than Swiss people. I went to a truck racing event at Nurburgring last summer and if people weren't speaking German I'd swear I was at a NASCAR race
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>>534387380
You aren't able to create Swiss conditions but you think that you are entitled to a Swiss salary. Understand the issue? People like you should be given a special slave Visa with no outlook for permanent residency, massively lowered wages by direct taxation and immediate expuslion at the slightest amount of crime like they do in Dubai. That you think you can come and mooch because you say some words that appeal to racists is an insult as well. I have the suspicion that most posters in this thread are not White.
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>>534387403
>best to be polite at all times.
Why are you telling this to me? I was polite to everyone who spoke to me respectfully.
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>>534387575
>Mooch

Mooching off the wealth of the entire world is what made us rich tough.
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>>534387499
your silly assumption proves you are one of the lower IQs there. thank god. imagine you were all smart af or had been when your children were still send into slavery.
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>>534385463
I think the Swiss would be wise to keep you out if this is how you behave
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>>534387499
This. Every man must struggle. That oldmoney faggot screams JEW so loud i can nearly see his disgusting disgenic beak through my screen. Total kike death i dont even know why switzerland appears so kikeridden these days? Didnt you guys tell them to fuck off during WW2? Where did all the jews come?
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>>534387605
i meant more in general, and even with the ones who don't need to work.
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>>534387380
Don't worry about that guy. Austria is as god tier as it gets.
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>>534387716
Extreme wealth makes one weak and lazy.
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>>534387716
it's been jew ridden since its inception. last crusade and all. add the blochers and their ilk and a few patricians too. after all they're svabians, too, innit.
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>>534387721
>and even with the ones who don't need to work.
If I talk back to an asshole, that doesn’t mean I’ve snapped at everyone in the universe.
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>>534387575
You sound so jewish my ancestors would have shot you on the spot if your kikefamily wouldnt had hide themself like the ratts they are. The world is a war and only the strong deserve to thrive and i will take what i want and you cant do shit you useless swiss jobless jewish paperwealth nigger
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>>534387677
>if this is how you behave
Do you always side with the bullies when there’s a conflict around you?
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>>534387716
some came from israel, unironically after migrating there for the promised land. turns out the promised land is switzerland, austria and bavaria. well, not anymore.
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I think switzerland will get fucked by the EU soon too desu. Its landlocked and lost its american friend and as the EU descends into socialism, poverty and war, there's practically no way that Switzerland will remain an isolated rich place that isnt affected. EU controls all its entry and trade, and there's no big uncle america to cry to anymore
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>>534387774
I come from wealth, not extreme but anough to spoil a kid, but i was raised with germanic values be the best work hard dont be a degenerate. That person sounds jewish there is not a single germanic value in him
>let the goyim work i will leech of my intrests (((hand rubbing in (((swizerland))))))

>>534387575
You are not swizz or germanic you are a jew and all the world wants you dead for a reason. Thats the big upside of austria we got rid of youre tribe once and for all
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>>534387874
i believe you. i'm having a hard time dealing with assholes, too. if you make it there you will meet quite a few of them.
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>>534387774
to the point of calling themselves 'visionaries'

>>534387874
do you like zagorky perhaps, op?
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>>534388146
they are already forced to disclose account details to your cunt of residence. which isn't nice if you have stashed a nest egg there.
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>>534388146
>descends into socialism
Kek, you are not headed for Socialism Mehmet, that would be a good thing.
You are headed for hypercrapitalism, not the Rhenish model you have been living under that sorta works but full blown dystopian crapitalism.
You think the WEF/Davos/Eurocrat crowd have any intention to abolish private property?
YOU will own nothing and you will be happy
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>>534388146
The joke is they would get fucked if they wouldnt braindrain high skilled workers like us. But i dont want switzerland to fail i want the germanic tribes unite. I dont get why we cant all unite and focus on the real problem the jew and the anglo. The germanic principle of hard work and pride will allways win and its jews exploit that honest work. Switzerland has a much bigger jew issue as i thought i realize that now. But with the state of the EU there is little choice left, you cant make a wage without getting robbed out of it.
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>>534387557

thats because most white americans are practically german.
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>>534388146
you might need to learn more about the place. they are rich beyond imagination, they run the biggest mining enterprise in the world and the biggest flottilla of ships, without having access to a swiss port. they're food secure, very protectionist and can manufacture almost everything themselves, including cars. though precision machinery and pharma are more a thing there. and there are other trade partners in the world than the US.
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>>534388492
Well yeah, it’s not free market crapitalism but it’s still crapitalism nonetheless.
You do know there’s a variety of flavors of crapitalism, right?
You have laissez-faire, crony crapitalism, welfare crapitalism, neoliberalism, lolbertarianism, state crapitalism, the Nordic model, the Rhenish model, etc.
And as a Socialist I actually partly agree with your meme, we should get rid of ALL handouts. I don’t believe in welfare, subsidies, bailouts or inheritance.
Want to know why elites don’t get rid of those? Because the system would implode without them.
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>>534383911
>Nice found my first swizz friend

Lol, you first swizz friend is a jeet
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>>534388755
thing is, welfare is a tool that moves money from the working to the non-working, who then pass it on to the crapitalist class of real estate owners, telecom providers and energy jews. they fond a way to employ the lumpenproletariat, that according to marx must necessarily exist.
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>>534387155
Its crazy how fast he was proven right. Lmao piece of shit jeet. Also Spain isn't shit, I would argue the quality of life in Spain mogs Switzerland and the people and culture are superior as well. Switzerland just exists as a third place for pharmaceutical giants and banker kikes to hide in when pissrael fails.
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>>534388684
This. Its literally the perfect country if it wasnt for the jews. Honestly i think i hate jews so much its on a genetic level. Like literally in my dna.

And what a coincidence there are only 3 countries in the world with mandatory wastewater ozonation (that filters out estrogens and medication residue), switzerland, isreal and singapur. Literally jews behind every problem
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>>534388755
You conflate the ideology with having capital. Most rich people are not capitalists. Having hierarchies is also not capitalism.
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>>534387510
You're a gypsy its simply never going to work, just give up already its getting sad
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>>534388801
>jeet
>>534388929
>jeet
Whats that about? Why is he indian?
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>>534388929
many many spanish migrants in switzerland who have been around for ages. you see them flying their flag from the train, when you pass the kleingärten along the way. spain is riddled by corruption and unemployment. sure, the sun shines, but according to swiss weather report it always shines at altitudes higher than 3000m.
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>>534389016
This is your country.
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>>534388904
Yeah, welfare is a bribe from the elites to the proletariat in exchange for not revolting. The elites know well that if they didn’t hand out crumbs from the table there would be a revolution tomorrow and they’d lose everything.
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>>534389132
Lol you dont even have cell phones with cameras on them to record gypsies going mad, retarded proto jeet.

>>534389126
I just simply dont care for any other part of Europe, except maybe Norway, outside of that I have no actual interest in Europe.
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>>534389269
my point was though, that it is a tool that is profitable to the ones who govern us, while it ruins everyone who does work. it's not about avoiding revolt. it's theft that ruins the indigenous populations. which is why importing non-working migrants is as effective in replacing a people. look at the proportion of welfare that is spent on accomodation and the other things i mentioned and look at what remains for the poor suckers to feed themselves. that personal allowance bit is pennies to the ones who make bank on renting out to them.
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>>534389532
The migrant workers and native working class are in the same boat.
They give welfare to immigrants for the same reason as giving welfare in general: to avoid revolt. It also has the additional effect of driving a wedge between them and the native working class, preventing solidarity and generating resentment.
If anything cutting off welfare would be even more disastrous with a large dependent migrant population. Can you imagine the chimp out if Mehmet stops getting his monthly checks? These people have even less loyalty to the state than the native working class since they can get deported at any time and the segment that DOES work is exploited as an underclass of gig workers.
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>>534389466
so you've been to spain but not to switzerland? bit odd to claim spain 'mogs' a place you're not even interested in.
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>>534389903
I don't have to even bother with Switzerland. Spain has the Pyrenees, it has everything Switzerland has but jews and money, two things it can do without in this current age. Both bring jeets, nogs and more jews.
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the entire west is finished.
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>>534390280
I agree with this, I think Russia or Belarus may survive due to not having (((democracy))) though
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>>534390128
no jews in spain? come on, m8. you are being facetious. what do you think caused the construction boom after the euro was introduced.
and why would it have created a bubble that burst biblically. something spain still suffers from. jews, m8. if you like norway, you would definitely like switzerland. it's very beautiful and compact, too. meaning your travels will always be short and comfy.
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>>534390345

>Russia or Belarus may survive

as countries, maybe.
but all whites will be wiped.

alongside us.
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>>534390632
don't be so pessimistic. or rather, prepare your exit. new brunswick canada seems a feasible idea. german islands in south america also doable. don't die for ze inbred menorah crew.
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>>534390632
I think the problem is democracy, not race. Any white country that is not a democracy can stem the tide. Imagine if Hitler won, do you think he would be racemixing? Or if MacArthur did a military coup and made America a dictatorship? Only authoritarianism is a strong enough government structure to fight against foreigners. Democracy is all about consensus building, it welcomes foreigners in as part of its pursuit of popularity.
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>>534390835
hitler knew well, it is a jewish scam. particularly obvious in the west these days. neither of the false dichotomy choices are beneficial to the indigenous people, unless they are jews or their fighting pets. it's not about popularity. it's presenting the illusion of choice where there isn't any. we can't vote on fiat, can we.
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>>534391032
I think it is deeper than that. I think on a spiritual level, democracy is about popularity, consensus, diversity, and tolerance. Democracy is about being the good guy, the underdog. In a democracy it makes sense for a politician to be nice to every group because he needs their votes. It doesn't make sense for a politician to say "I hate Muslims" because he would lose a ton of votes. But even deeper than that, in a democracy a politician must never be seen to hate at all, because people don't like a hater, people like a smiler, a charmer, a winner, a lucky man. In democracy the ideal candidate is the guy who makes friends with everyone. In more extreme cases this leads to a really hot girl being elected, because who doesn't like a hot girl?

Meanwhile, look at China. In authoritarianism, fear is pervasive. The government has to make the people afraid of outsiders in order to keep them loyal to itself. In China, everyone is Han, but Xi Jinping is the super-Han. Hitler was the super-German. There is a hierarchy from the small German to the super-German which means social mobility. If the small German is loyal to his superior, maybe one day he can become a big German. Meanwhile, non-Germans are excluded from this hierarchy. Or in CCP, non-Han are excluded. They cannot become the big Han. In this, the small German takes the glory of the big German into himself. When Hitler conquers Poland, all Germans take glory in this accomplishment. We can see today with the Iran and Ukraine wars how easily "civilized democratic" peoples go into this ooga booga mode. When Trump bombs Iran, all Americans become the big American. When Netanyahu bombs Palestine, all Jews become the big Jew. This "strong leader" force is what causes national pride and unity - all the men of a tribe follow the greatest of their tribe. It cannot exist in a democracy, because democracy rewards the conflict-avoider, not the conflict-starter.
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>>534391394
then how do you explain trump being your president. the consensus seeking is lying and it doesn't matter one iota when your fed is decoupled from the people's vote. as is ours and every other rothschild dominated. you probably know the vid about the israel flags at politicians offices. conflict avoiders? really. think of serbia, libyia, gaza, lebanon, iran. heck, even vietnam was jews playing you for profit. there is no such thing as democracy. there is jewish lobbying and corruption and blackmail. and jewish money out of thin air, that your corrupt president spends on an israel war to feed your military complex. "money" that you are in debt for.
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>>534384923
Why doesn't Germany do the same, this way shitskins won't immigrate
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>>534392085
the shitskins are going to switzerland either as illegal poor migrants or as 'qualified' replacement for an allegedly failing demograph. niggers sit in precious tourist locations dealing and shouting. the swiss have similar problems as we do, but they're way wealthier. crooked money and pill peddling. you'd be surprised about the deals swiss pharma has with the US military. migration to swiss paradise is only difficult if you're white.
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>>534381861
>live in alps
>village gets crushed by rocks
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>>534392393
Hungarians are definitely not White - at best they can claim to be better than Romanians and Albanian. The two had overrun Bern my last time there in 2022.
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>>534381861
Fuck no. In Switzerland they make you pay to use public bathrooms. Fuckin psycho control freaks.
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>>534392549
i've lived in bern before 22. albanians yes, though not noticable to me. lots of asian tourists in the old town, who'd stand in the way. niggers dealing at münsterplattform and arab barbershops. couple of brasilian wayfus, as brasil is a fav tourist destination for swiss men. otherwise it was pretty comfy. didn't notice romanians, but i did notice the rather large crowd at the methadon dispensary by the train station. lots of heroin addicts there. might be fent now. seems money can't buy happiness, as i know a few who come from well off families.
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>>534392633
someone has to clean them. that someone has to be paid. and they are clean. you want swiss citizens to pay for your piss in a clean toilet? that's not nice.
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>>534381861
>move to Switzerland for IT

lol, lmao...Switzerland and Europe in general is being absolutely flooded with Indian Hindu rape rat pedophile invaders who are like heat seeking missiles into every IT/tech job. It's not that they can do it, it's that the Indian government has managed to convince every government to give them the visas, and then local jews will immediately replace you with them so they can google/ask AI how to do your job. This includes "based" Poland btw, they are getting absolutely jeeted in Warsaw and the other big cities.

The only way you can be safe at this point is to have a job that requires some kind of physical labor, because the Hindu rape rats are like brown jews- they refuse to do anything that requires actual hard work.
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>>534394086
the physical work jobs here are now done by imported czechs, arabs and romanians. loads of arab, bulgar, romanian, and ukrainian criminals about, too. nothing in comparison to the top criminals who rule from the shadows.



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