prev:>>534386593prev prev >>534382754theeadthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4AUY-v1nsEDay: 25 of the 14-day Ceasefire™ with IranDay: 63 of the 1-day "Special Military Operation™ to decapitate Iran"Day: 16 of the 10-day Ceasefire™ with Lebanon▶RECENT:>us navy says it will help people get through the blockade by not helping them. everyone confused>Trump announces an operation to release ships from the strait of hormuz tomorrow morning>85 min before Brent futures open, Tгump announces "best effort" to break Iranian blockade at Strait of Hormuz for "purely humanitarian" reasons Monday morning Persian Gulf time>China rejects American oil sanctions on Iran>Air defence activity in Tehran, allegedly against small drones>Tгump instructed aides to prepare for an extended blockade of Iran, aiming to compel the regime's nuclear capitulation>CENTCOM requesting deployment of Dark Eagle missile to M.E. - Bloomberg>Marine Insurers: cooperation with Iranian authorities to ensure safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz (AP)▶WARNING:>Do not trust any "happenings" or posts without link/proof>Uкraine / Яussia discussions belong in uнg or cнug>Do not engage with off-topic Hasbara blogposters▶Oil:https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/▶Kino:New Hezb FPV https://files.catbox.moe/0t3sbt.mp4https://rentry.org/pig-kino▶X Accounts:https://rentry.org/irxacc▶Iranian Newshttps://rentry.org/irnews▶Telegram Channels:https://rentry.org/tgnews▶Israel Rocket Alerts:https://www.tzevaadom.co.il/en/▶Air Traffic:https://www.flightradar24.com/https://flightaware.com/livehttps://globe.adsbexchange.com/▶Maritime Traffic:https://www.marinetraffic.com/https://www.vesselfinder.com/▶Hormuz Transit Tracker:https://www.pizzint.watch/hormuz
>>534392584well thats just uncalled for and extreme
MAGA!!!
bomb irannys
>>534392584>indian threadew
JANNY ARE YOU OKAY?ARE YOU OKAY JANNY
nigger mod moment?pray tell what that was about
>>534392374FUCK JANNIES
Its the fucking incel spamming dead Iranian children
>>534393213>pray tell what that was aboutright? I announced and baked >>534392214. OP baked 4 mins later.
>>534392374ugh killing off the effortposted thread for a migger thread...anyway, I'll post this againhttps://files.catbox.moe/sc5sm5.mp4No clue about the book thing Chile anon, I'm just going around finding vids. Someone up to date on Hezbollah and that understands Arabic can figure that one out.
>>534393270no im not
shit pirates desu
>>534393291Wonder what triggered them. Did someone say something glowies might not like?
>>534393383>Wonder what triggered them. Did someone say something glowies might not like?then that post should have been nuked. https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/534392214/ was my bake and I've baked dozens of times. Would love to know what exactly the problem was.
Did Orange Nigger hear this retarded plan on Fox News or something?
>>534393301party banger fr fr.
>>534393211>>534393213>>534393231based jannys, kys brownoid
>>534393469janny forgot to dilate today, please understand
>>534393270dont know who the hell that is but he sounds like an absolute gigachad
Here you go — formatted for /pig/ posting:---The 30 day Iran proposal isn't a coincidence. They timed it to align with the War Powers Resolution clock.WPR works in two phases: 60 day notification deadline, then 30 days for force withdrawal. War started early March, so Trump was at his 60 day mark last week. He sent the "hostilities terminated" letter to Congress to argue the clock doesn't apply because of the ceasefire. Legal fiction since blockade continues, but it's his position.The actual hard deadline for full withdrawal absent congressional authorization is the 90 day mark, which lands around early June.Iran's 30 day deadline lands at almost exactly the same time. That's not random. They're using US domestic legal architecture as leverage. By imposing their own deadline aligned with WPR withdrawal date, they force Trump into one of four options:1. Reach a deal in 30 days (Iran wins, war ends without capitulation)2. Get congressional authorization to continue (politically dead given $40-50B cost overruns and base damage)3. Withdraw forces (Iran wins by default)4. Ignore WPR entirely (constitutional crisis on top of everything else)Project Freedom is Trump trying to break the deadline convergence by creating a new variable. "Humanitarian mission" framing means the legal theory is this doesn't extend WPR clock since it's not combat operations. If it works, he claims victory and resets political timeline. If it fails or Iran responds, he gets justification for ignoring WPR and continuing.Multiple clocks all expiring early-to-mid June: Iran's 30 day proposal, WPR 90 day mark, Iranian oil storage crisis (Kharg full, Jask 60% full, wells degrading), California gasoline inventory drawdown, Pentagon $200B funding request needing approval.Iran is playing this smart. Most sophisticated use of American legal mechanisms by an adversary I've seen.
>>534393475Gorilla Channel
> Delete the thread that not only was made first but also had more repliesThey are scared, good.>>534393301Thanks m8, I'm Colombian btw, Starlink IP glitch and stuff. Glad to see a war video without cookie cutter phonk and tiktok editing. Yeah the book is probably just guys messing around.
It's still mind blowing to me that there are people out there who still support this retard and his administration
>>534393687kys jamboy thread lover, this is a no jamboy zone
>>534393626They overestimate the importance of our legal framework, if that's the case.
>>534393753Facts. Even if he somehow "wins" it is absolutely foolish to take the gambles he has taken. And I don't think he can generate a meaningful win at any rate.
>>534393788>They overestimate the importance of our legal framework, if that's the case.More international justification/defense maybe? If this continues, at some point Europe/Asia will be forced to act somehow as well and we already know they all hate us for good reason.
>>534393626Thanks for the effort post, my all in oil position feels even safer now.
>>534393753of all the fucking dumb Drumpfted has done, I can't imagine how he ever thought this war was a good idea.
the world is yours.....
>>534393923Venezuela for him was the equivalent of that poor guy that comes first time into a Casino and wins decently only to lose his house years later.
>>534393626>Iran is playing this smart. Most sophisticated use of American legal mechanisms by an adversary I've seenNo doubt they have advisors. Probably many americans
Did 4chan update the site's CSS. Looks different
id post jamboy child gore to ward off all the disgusting jamboys but i dont have any unf
>>534393967Based zeppelin maxxing
>>534393866>Europe/Asia will be forced to act somehow as wellIf iran capitulates, everyone's problems are over
>>534393626and none of this matters since no president since the WPA was signed into law have given a shit about, and Congress itself, if forced to a vote, would approve the continuation since they dont want to own the consequences of stopping it. If they let it continue, whatever opposition can continue to hang it on Trump. Even the fact that Trump is playing that game it to give Congress the fig leaf of cover they need to drop the issue at least in the short term.
>>534393753It's mindblowing to me that people only started turning on him once gas prices went up
>>534392214>>534392214>>534392214shit holers btfo
>>534393301>effort post>just ctrl + c and ctrl + v fpv videos of fpv drone blowing up a tank as if we havent seen a million of those because of the ukraine warthe 4chan third worlder cant go 2 seconds without jerking off to fpv drone propaganda. genuine subhumans
>>534394042You're bound to find some at /gif/
>>534393923Whats the alternative? Leave global oil trade in the hands of the IRGC?
>>534393967I like their instagram page, their posts are basically:> BUY TIRES! BUY TIRES IF YOU WANT TO KEEP LTA ALIVE
>>534393912
Americans can suffer a few dollars increase in gas prices. They're pussies if they can't.
>>534394094>ctrl+c, ctrl +v, add one line about confusion.oh yeah so much effort.
>>534394115Was global oil trade in the hands of the IRGC before this war started? I thought the Straight of Homos was open before this started
>>534394115oil trade was fine before SMO started
>>534394166>hehe youre the one who asserted the effort posting not melil goblin. lil ghoul. lil green ghoul nigga. get out of my sight
>>534394167>Was global oil trade in the hands of the IRGCYou tell me
>>534394115No one is forcing you to trade in the Persian Gulf without permission.
>>534394171Define fine?
>>534394254Its interesting how this problem didn't existed before Trump decided to send more goyim to die for Israel.
>>534394260>without permissionThat's why we are here now
>>534394115>Whats the alternative?Have you tried killing yourself, jew?
>>534394254no it was not. so why the fuck did we give them an excuse? what was the point?
>>534394303>this problem didn't existedIf it didn't then why is the strait closed. Countries not waging war against Iran are being targeted.
>>534394115capitulate, remove the bases and pay reparations with basically infinite money. It doesn't sound bad and Im not joking. The only issue here is Israel as always. Oh forgot and the gulf chest-shitters, forgot about them. The'll be fine
Did we ever get clarification on whether king migger meant Monday EST or Monday Tehran time? Because it's around 6:30am Monday there currently
>>534394396>give them an excuseThats all it takes? Global trade allowed at Iran's whim? Yiur fine with that?
>>534393687Israel just quadrupled their propaganda budget. They are probably using it to bribe Reddit mods and such.
>>534394448just because at some point I could be neck deep in shit, doesn't mean it's a good idea to be chest deep in shit without any plans to get out of it.you miggers are retarded.
>>534394452We're experiencing some of the effects of that increased in this very thread
>>534394282Operation Epstein Fury has been a massive failure, pure and simple. Other than distracting from the files, which is why I think trump finally gave in to Yahoo
>>534393781What the fuck is a jamboy?
>>534394430no
>>534394115Yes? Hasn't Trump said that we don't need the Strait so it doesn't even matter to us if its closed? Was that a lie? Or was he lying when he said we can't allow Iran to control the Strait? Which is it fag?Also, you act like we're "choosing" to leave it in the hands of the IRGC. There is no military solution to this problem. If Trump could force the Strait open, he would. We can't, not without paying a price so high that its nowhere near worth doing it. We no longer have a choice in the matter.
>>534393346It wasn't even an "Iranian tanker," it was some third party's tanker that just had Iranian oil on it.
>>534394399>Countries not waging war against Iran are being targeted.Such as?
>>534394565Okay, around 6:00am Monday. Still no answer? Still just a market manipulation ploy? Still a TACO?
>>534394282Unthreatened, unmolested. Like a kid who lived a nice life and then suddenly met Epstein Fury.
>>534394430It wouldn't matter physical blockage isn't the issue insurance is. Nobody in a company is going to send a $200 million ship to get wrecked. Even if the navy is there.thst isn't a guarantee compared to just having irgc let you through
>>534394626>Still a TACO?Yeah most likely a nothingburger>European diplomats, recalling past failed U.S. attempts to force traffic in the Strait to resume, are concerned about the lack of participation from military naval vessels. https://t.me/wfwitness/92277>They believe that without warships the current situation in the Straint is unlikely to significantly change.
>>534394570Accurate. It is now a race against the clock to see which economic pain stacks up worst first.
>>534394745I mean iranian ships keep moving so I'm not sure what pain they are feeling. Whether transponder shut off or not they don't care about insurance.
>>534394115>Whats the alternative?We could be polyamory-maxxxing while high on ketamine with cute and valid they/them tomboys but no youre right the boomer red heifer gas crisis timeline is a lot better thats true anon
>>534394561Some meme about Indians based on fanfic of a British colonial rubbing jam on an indian to attract insects
>>534394115sounds good to me
>>534394800They are running out of storage still. Unless they find a way to get more oil out, they will face damage soon from having nowhere to store the oil.
>>534394733They ordered pizza for nothing?
>>534394853Wouldn't a jam jar keep the insects away without rubbing them on a person?
>>534394115Sounds like something they should have considered before going full retard. Was literally not an issue before.
>>534394115I thought we produced enough oil. Let the sand niggers sort out their own problems.>inb4 but your refineries need Saudi oilMake new fucking refineries
>>534392374So... are they escorting the ships or not?
now that everyone has kalmed down over the janny stuff i'd like to remind everyone POSITIVITY AND PATIENCE in my thread. soon trump's warships with railguns and lasers will finish and the age of piracy shall begin in full luster. rest in peace indian anon killed by janny he shouldve died to a train instead amen.
>>534394939I did say it was a dumb meme.
>>534394957We do not.
>>534394979He made it up.
>>534394939They can see the co2
>>534394979>So... are they escorting the ships or not?No. Not yet at least, but it is highly doubtful.
>>534394927>They ordered pizza for nothing?Someone check the pizza tracker thing
>>534394570>the IRGC. There is no military solution to this problem>>534394570Have you seen the Iranian proposal for peace? It got rejected, but why are they even offering to talk about uranium now?
>>534394910>They are running out of storage stillThis is no credible proof of this
>>534394996That gap can be closed with Canada and Venezuela trade
>>534394957The problem is that oil would be too expensive.
>>534394651>UnthreatenedI dont think that means what you think it means
>>534395069Why would it be expensive? Let them pay the iranian tax. Would only be a buck a barrel.
>>534394957You're right we produce enough crude. Two problems: our refineries were built for heavy sour from the Gulf Arabs, not light sweet shale, so we can't fully use what we pump. And new refineries take 10-15 years and $5-10B each. Last major one built was 1976. NIMBY, permitting, and capital cycles killed the buildout long before any Democrat got involved. Oil is also fungible globally — even fully self-sufficient, our prices rise to whatever Asia is paying when Hormuz closes. The fix is reinstating the export ban or Jones Act waivers, not new refineries. Those work in weeks. Refineries work in decades.
>>534394943No doubt they considered it. They went anyway. Short term pain for long term gain.
>>534395110>Let them pay the iranian taxThat's antisemitic tho.
>>534395060Kpler reported Iran's tanker loadings dropped 70% since the blockade started. Kharg Island terminal is full, Jask is 60% full, and Iran is using trapped tankers inside the Gulf as floating storage. Kpler does physical tracking via satellite and AIS — that's the gold standard for tanker data, used by every major commodity desk. Not analyst opinion, observable physical evidence. You can argue blockade running offsets some of it but the storage saturation is independently verifiable through commercial maritime tracking services
>>534393923bibi convinced himcan't resist those sweet bibi lies
>>534395131$10B is nothing, we can subsidize that. Force the refiners to build new refineries, and those that drag their feet shall be defenestrated until a complient management team is running the show.
>>534395030
>>534395270OK, how do you solve the time problem, assuming the financial works?
>>534395272Shit
>>534394844Speak for yourself, this is my current timeline living in a blue state
>>534395178>track tanker ships>somehow know how full land storage isUh ok explain that one.
>>534395405It's as if they think there is no such thing as long term terrestrial storage
>>534395178>>Kpler reported Iran's tanker loadings dropped 70% since the blockade started. Kharg Island terminal is full, Jask is 60% full, and Iran is using trapped tankers inside the Gulf as floating storage. Kpler does physical tracking via satellite and AIS — that's the gold standard for tanker data, used by every major commodity desk. Not analyst opinion, observable physical evidence. You can argue blockade running offsets some of it but the storage saturation is independently verifiable through commercial maritime tracking services
>>534395370Round the clock shifts, suspend OSHA and environmental standards.Just because it would take us 5 years in normal times doesn't mean it can't be done in 2.
>>534395491Glad the tranny jannies didn't actually ban you. Fucking cunts
>>534395041There's been practically no shift in the Iranian position, they've always said nuclear talks could resume in peacetime. My guess is this is probably a way to put increased pressure on Trump, since most reasonable people want the US to stop attacking during negotiations and instead just take the best possible deal with Iran on nuclear through diplomacy so we can all collectively move on from this retarded made-up "issue". If you're trying to imply that the blockade is pressuring Iran to soften its position, that's another conversation entirely - not sure if you're implying this because you're being cagey as fuck. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the statement that we have no military solution to the Strait however, which is why we've switched to economic coercion out of desperation. If there were some kinetic (as fags love to say nowadays) solution to the IRGC's hold over the Strait that was worth the price-tag we would've deployed it by now.>inb4 ackshually blockade is technically a military act
>>534394115guess you shoulda thought about that before you started the war ya dumb cunt
>>534395178Iran has had to deal with an inability to export oil through hormuz before, in the iran-iraq war and even more recently during sanctions just before covid.
Can't help but see this "humanitarian escort" thing as the latest attempt to trick Iran into breaking the ceasefire.Let Iran strike a ship under U.S. protection or "accidentally" hit a U.S. escort ship and you have a war where you technically weren't the first aggressor.Hope Iran isn't stupid enough to fall for it and just bombs some random Iraqi tanker in revenge.
>>534395524ok but that's not gonna happen sooo
>>534395666Awww, but I wanted a turn as a benevolent tyrant.
>>534395524In 2 years we are all starving as a result of this fiasco. It cannot be done in time. Simple as.
>>534395405Quick reply for him:---Two methods. Land storage at terminals like Kharg gets tracked via satellite imagery — Maxar, Planet Labs, Sentinel. Floating roof tanks rise and fall with fill level, casting shadows that change measurably. Multiple commercial firms (Kayrros, Ursa, Orbital Insight) sell this data to traders and have for years. You can see fill levels updated daily.For tanker storage, AIS data plus radar tracking shows ships sitting in place rather than transiting. When you see vessels anchored offshore for weeks at a time near loading terminals, that's floating storage. Cross-reference with cargo manifests filed at port and you know what's onboard.Kpler, Vortexa, Lloyd's List all do this commercially. Trading desks pay six figures annually for this data because it works. Not theory, established industry.
>>534395641Yeah its possible you guys are correct. Just guessing and trying to run scenarios with Claude.
>>534395789i just dont think iran is gonna collapse from a storage container crisis, mate
>the rest of the world is going to give iran the strait to troll america epic stylelol @ retards who think that the world works this way. the strait being given to iran against the best interests of everyone else, therefore the world will take it back. if trump accepts a peace deal that doesn't include a return to the status quo with the strait, europe will do something about it (something they've already said multiple times). nobody gives a shit morals or justice or whatever naive horseshit.
>>534392374how it started>85 min before Brent futures open, Tгump announces "best effort" to break Iranian blockade at Strait of Hormuz for "purely humanitarian" reasons Monday morning Persian Gulf timehow it’s going >us navy says it will help people get through the blockade by not helping them. everyone confusedfucking kek
>>534395662US already said they are not going to escort or get anywhere near the straiti.e. it was all bullshit
>>534395847This nigga spoutin AI slop on my underwater basket weaving forum in current year +11
>>534395641No you don't understand, if they ever reduce their output for any reason by even a tiny fraction, they will forever be unable to pump oil ever ever again.
>>534395575>out of desperationThese types of characterizations reveal bias. Im not being cagey, im just not pretending to know anything other than what seems verifiable
>>534395939Probably the most blatant market manipulation yet, and that's saying something
>>534395915>This is how we can still winGrim.
>>534396011Great argument faggotron, you sure showed me.
>>534395160But there was no pain before.....gain of what?
>>534395923How it ends>Iran has begged me to stop my Great and Civilization Ending operation to escort ships through the Hormuz Strait, so it will not happen. I might change my mind someday, WATCH OUT! – President Migger
>>534395178If this were true then why do iran tankers keep appearing near China? Then appearing back by iran....
>>534395915countries are already paying the tollthe american navy is now a pirate fleetother countries are going to start trying to toll traffic in their own watersno, they won't do anything but accede to Iran's will. There's no other choice.
>>534395915uh huh the international super hero marvel team will assemble any minute anon
>>534396049>Great argumentThanks, you should try working on yours for once.
>>534395958>These types of characterizations reveal bias.Nah, coming to a conclusion on the character of events does not therefore necessarily that you're biased. Conversely, acting robotic and "neutral" on the surface does not necessarily imply that your thinking is therefore unbiased.Furthermore its a fallacy to simply accuse me of being "biased" as a strike against my position even if I am - I could be biased yet what I'm saying could still be true. You could be perfectly unbiased yet your conclusion could still be false. > Im not being cagey, im just not pretending to know anything other than what seems verifiableYou are being cagey, you brought up something (the recent Iranian peace proposal) without explaining why it was relevant to the conversation, leaving me to make an assumption as to what point you were attempting to make with it. I'll be the cringe armchair psychologist now since you started it - this implies you're not confident in your take on the Iranian peace proposal so you don't present your take at all, instead you just mention it without further elaboration so if the other person makes a criticism you have the plausible deniability of "well I never technically made any assertions".
It’s bullshit. 100+ tanks have been destroyed by Hezbollah and each tank takes 4 people to operate. There should be at least 400+ burned Jews.
>>534396157>>534396163>>534396184>NOOOO THEY'RE LYING THE REST OF THE WORLD WILL KNEEL BEFORE BRICS!!!lol if you think that europe will fuck over their own economy because they feel bad for iran
>>534395915Massive cope, its far more rational to just pay Iran the toll to move through the Strait rather than get involved in a war to open it. Rationality is about minimizing costs and obtaining highest expected value outcomes, something the Trump admin apparently struggles to grasp.
>>534396236USA is fucking over europe, europe has been trying to normalize relations with Iran over this, with several different countries reopening their embassies in Iran.The US blockade is literally fucking over Europe instead of Iran.
did orange nigger pussy out and lie again?Got me excited for a second there
>>534396236>jews are lyingCorrect.
>>534396236Europe already fucked over their economy because they felt bad for oinkraine.
So what is Muh Freedumbs operation is about?>inb4: just market manipulation
>>534396300Search your feelings, you know the answer
>>534396328Why would Europe sacrifice so much for Ukraine?
>>534396332got it in one
>>534396080It was big and beautiful. The deal was beautiful. I payed Iran to control the hormuz, I am totaly RICH and POWERFUL, I made thousands of successful deals, and this is one of the bestest deal I made.
>>534396253>>534396272>LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOUThe uk and france have already proposed "defensive" misions to "protect tankers".
>>534396235>looks at all the FPV vids they released They're denting empty tanks you dumb seamonkey
>>534392374I can't believe they're really deploying the Dark Eagle. It's too strong for Iran so overkill lol
>>534394957The price of oil is globalSee: All the tankers parked in the Gulf of Mexico being loaded up with America's stockpile of oil and fuel to sell to Asia and Europe
>>534396332You can't inb4 the actual answer.But additionally it is to let Congress off the hook for WPR reasons, so they don't have to show the goyim how kiked they are by voting to approve this war
>>534396355Same reason US is doing so. The kikes run the show and have an axe to grind against a country that isn't, and they won't hesitate to ruin their hosts.Tale as old as time.
>>534396203Youre caught up on this military solution. Iran is softening its position. That was the point. Why ate they? I dont know. I dont think the irgc is our savior from global elites and jews. I think they are acting like the niggers everyone accused them of being. After peace, we can all focus on our common enemy
>>534396235Its 2026 wikipedia anon. Idk what did you expected. Same as the USA bases miraculously reporting zero deaths after being bombed by Iran.
>>534396376They always clarify that these "defensive missions" will take place once we are back in "peacetime". I'll translate that for you since you seem retarded as fuck - "we are not going to militarily confront Iran."
>>534396411>Iran is softening its positionThey are not. They have been consistent the entire time. Your premise is false, your argument invalid.
>>534396235Most tanks were destroyed in saving tactics of the first tanks. There are definitely more dead than implied. After that they ris no saving them.
>>534396346
>>534396253>Rationality is about minimizing costsHow much is the toll per tanker? How many tankers a year would that add up to?
>>534396376Were these proposals in your mind? Awkward.
>>534396300>Man who constantly has lied every Sunday turns out to possibly be lying againHmmm I'm unsure.
>>534396540
>>534396411What's the evidence that Iran is softening their position in any meaningful sense? Have not seen this at all, their recent 14 points remain maximalist. Earlier you appeared to be implying that they had switched their position on nuclear - this is false, in official proposals to the US since the war started they've always said "we will discuss nuclear later, once the war ends". > I dont think the irgc is our savior from global elites and jews.Yeah, no shit. They're doing what's in their own best interest. As Americans we need to overthrow Jewish control ourselves. That being said, losing this war to Iran raises the chance of us being able to do that some, since its a blow against the Jews, so there a logic to supporting Iran here.
>>534396462>they're going to send ships to defend tankers from nothingdo thirdies understand how retarded this sounds? what exactly would a "defensive mission" in the strait entail when iran is the only threat in the strait? who are they going to be defending against?
>>534396355US told them to and they're occupied states
>>534396400right, this is trump doing congress a huge favor, really
>>534393540Join 41%
>>534396503Not gonna do a homework assignment my nigger but to cut to the chase, its nowhere near the costs of confronting Iran militarily. Also if the US can't open the Strait, Europe sure as shit can't.
>>534396503Billions in revenue per year for Iran, meaning more funding for all their programs, including nuclear and missiles.
>>534396540https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yjz819vmgohttps://onu.delegfrance.org/no-blockades-no-blackmail-no-tollsFucking retard. Try paying attention something other than astroturfed garbage on /pol/.
>>534396503your math is fucked.ask instead "how much is the toll to never ever pass oil through here again?"and understand that it's way higher than 1$ per barrel.
>>534396503Couple decades per tanker, but they can just charge more to cover the cost.
>>534396591There is none. It's cope. The 14 points were the initial points and still are the same points. Honestly they are heavily in favor of iran which is why Pakistan didn't believe it would be accepted. Then when trump accepted it Iran demanded he retweet it which he did. Then the dumb nigger began backpedalling. Iran is aware of what they are up against there is no sign they will soften after that bullshit.
>>534396594You're ironically the one with the third world mentality - this is clearly just bullshit from the UK and France to seem like they're committed to solving the problem without actually pledging any real action. Promising to patrol the Strait when its already safe (in some hypothetical future) is exactly the point. You don't understand the European mind clearly or their particular rhetorical tricks.Its very much like when an acquainte of yours texts you about a problem and you act concerned and say "let me know if I can help" in order to be polite, which you both understand as a polite non-offer.
>>534396619>Also if the US can't open the Strait, Europe sure as shit can't.It would be a coalition. The gooks are also joining in.https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/foreignaffairs/20260503/korea-weighs-hormuz-mission-options-led-by-us-uk-france-coalitions
>>534396633Can we see this evidence of a proposal involving these statements? Pakistan has said it's the same 14 points I find it odd you have some goofy new proposal that the relayer hasn't seen. Wild
>>534396633>On Friday, Iran's foreign minister said the route was now "completely open" Citing a bbc article that is full of demonstrated falsehoods? Not a good look retard
>>534396633>It was real in his mindYeah, figures lolBack to /ptg/
>>534396708What the fuck are you talking about? I linked actual government statements.
>>534396741>proof?>umm no sweetie that doesn't count
>>534396706>It would be a coalition.I'd love to know your perspective on why this coalition is yet to manifest.If these countries want to escort their tankers before the war is over... why aren't they doing so yet?
It's very important the USA does whatever Israel wants. Really who are the Americans, a nation with a super massive economy and land size and hundreds of millions of people, to talk down to an a regional power of 10 million or so population with the land area the size of New Jersey. The Bible thousands of years ago demanded Americans give Israel piles of money and an extreme extent of diplomatic cover and military support.
>>534396747Of what? All it says is they demand stuff with nothing backing it. 3 demands with no logic behind them or route to do anything if not met all I see.
>>534396771Whenever you’d like to produce some, be my guest
>>534396706Lmfao, yeah for sure man, for sure. This is gonna be just like Avengers Endgame. 2 more weeks bro
>>534396608It's a big kiked club, congress supports the war. AIPAC owns congress, in case your forgot
>>534396811>>534396820>>534396828>they didn't say that>ok they did say that but uh...they're lying
>>534396549
>>534396706I assume Spain isn't in the coalition since you know they get free passage.
>>534396851I’m waiting.
>>534396851>they're lyingGuys he's almost there
>>534396706>proofs?>no proofs>seethes played like a fiddle
>>534396804Or you can just look at the actual situation and see that it makes sense to keep supporting them instead of letting Iran who will now view as an enemy forever now that we're in it now. There is no going back to how things were, stop coping.
>>534396888Kike alert, kike alertchecked btw
>>534396866If official government statements are not proof that they said it, then what is?
>>534396888It makes sense to keep supporting the cause of 30 years of decline and military humiliation who are openly calling for another 30 years of decline and military humiliation because... IT JUST DOES OKAY??
>>534396804the nation of israel is not the state in the Levant. Making this mistake is costly, stupid, or malicious.
>>534396851>We demand z>Nothing said about t if x not metLmao.you are a retard physical isn't holding anybody back dumbass you know what is? Risk. Insurance risk you will never see a ship uninsured travelling that area. Ever. Never ever. Cope to the extreme never ever. Guess what? Insurance? Already deemed you a dumb nigger. All passage for policies require? Guess what it requires? Can you guess? Do you think it's the navy? No lmao. It's they require irgc approval fucking retard. You can cope all you want. You won't get a single ship by. No matter what you do. Cause you can't top the risk. Lmao.
>>534396942Still waiting.
>>534396706>https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/foreignaffairs/20260503/korea-weighs-hormuz-mission-options-led-by-us-uk-france-coalitionsI skimmed this article and predictably>U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio called the MFC a “critical first step in the establishment of a postconflict maritime security architecture for the Middle East.”>POSTCONFLICTwhy are you people so retarded, legit need to spell everything out
>>534396970What exactly do you think a "defensive mission" in the strait is supposed to mean? Who is being defended from what?
>>534396888I am so thrilled we helped Israel bomb their regional rival, assassinate their leader and bomb all sorts of military and civilian targets. Along with threatening to commit mass murder against civilians. Shockingly this hasn't changed the hearts and minds of Iranians who still suicidally cling to their faith and their guns. We should all take a moment to reflect that people who defend themselves against vicious and violent attacks are themselves the villains for not doing as they're told.
america stands alone against the world
>>534397016What exactly do you think "postconflict" is supposed to mean?
>>534397016>Thinks defensive missions top a random drone riskLmao. I hope you are on trumps administration team you sound as dumb as they do.its unreal even. I'm not debating you. You are wrong. Dead wrong. 4 insurance companies for ships have already said you are dead wrong. That won't change.
>>534394115Dumb migger with his dumb rhetorical question. The strait was NOT in the hands of the IRGC BEFORE the war started. By starting this war, you've made IRGC blocking the straits POLITICALLY POSSIBLE. Don't know what those last 2 words mean? Ask your allies who are now refusing to "help"
>>534397000>why are you people so retardedIt's by design. For some reason the modus operandi of the shills in these threads has been to spout nonsense, double down, deny reality, and act obtuse.
>>534397058>>534397064Can you explain what europe means what they say they're going to defend the strait? What are they saying there? What are they defending against?
Why are gas prices still so high?
>>534397088Its hysterical because what's the point of getting us to think that a coalition is gonna swoop in and save the day when it isn't? Are they just trying to convince a few more anons to slightly nudge oil price down? Lmfao icl
>>534396633>Together, they have set forth three demands:>The immediate, full, and unconditional reopening of the Strait of Hormuz by all parties ;>The restoration of the conditions of free passage that were in place before the war and full respect for the law of the sea;>The absence of any restrictions, any agreement regime that would in effect amount to an attempt to privatize the Strait, and clearly any toll system.sure bud
>>534396484April 11th proposal >Recognition of Iran's right to nuclear enrichment: Iran wants Washington to formally recognise its right to enrich uranium on its own territory, New proposal>In the second phase, Iran would agree to a 15-year freeze on uranium enrichment, after which it would resume enriching uranium to 3.6%.
>>534397111Explained it up here already, a word to the not so wise:>>534396705Is this seriously your first time dealing with political statements? Just take the L dude
>>534397191>nu-uh they're just lyinglooking forward to thirdies complaining about "imperialism" if shit hits the fan and europe is forced to do something
>>534397173There's no meaningful difference between the two proposals, both recognize Iran's right to nuclear enrichment. The second is a specific proposal related to it. Even before the war Iran was already discussing a temporary pause on enrichment with the US.Trump's position is no enrichment at all, ever (which he knows Iran can't accept, it operates as a thin casus belli). Iran's position is short-term concessions on enrichment in exchange for sanctions relief.
Internet free speech is gonna die before Zionists let themselves lose a US election. If sentiment is still bad by November, they'll suspend elections. AND YOU WON'T DO SHIT IF THEY DO
>>534397081>POLITICALLY POSSIBLEPOL POS
>>534397113only going to get higher.
>>534397265Are politicians known to be truth-tellers? Kick your brain on for a second, I promise you can go back to your regular self right after
>>534396619>Not gonna do a homework assignmentSo youre just spouting bullshit? War is cheaper
>>534397318Nah, it isn't
>>534397039America is the nigger of the world at this point and the kikes are its massa
>>534396633>Speaking after a meeting of 51 countries, the prime minister underlined the work would be "strictly peaceful and defensive" and would only be put in place once fighting in the region ends.>would only be put in place once fighting in the region ends.Did you even read your own article?
>>534397150I honestly can't say, I've just noticed it's their go to tactic. Perhaps to sew confusion, steer the conversation, distract from actual news. Arguing with them feels like banging your head against the wall, and I can only conclude that is exactly what they want.
>>534397313did you fall for the "europe is anti-war" meme? yuros have no issue with sending troops to the middle east if it starts affecting their bottom line. right now they're hoping that america will deal with it.>>534397358a peaceful defensive mission to defend against the mysterious unnamed enemy in the strait
>>534397297CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER? SO HIGHHHH OHHHHHHHHH
>>534397358These faggots from /ptg/ don’t read
>>534397349Tale as old as time.
>>534397081>By starting this war, you've made IRGC blocking the straits POLITICALLY POSSIBLEIs this like justifying getting knocked out for calling someone a nigger?
>>534397111Nothing. Cause they won't do anything. You being a taco retard doesn't mean anything. Btw iran does get tankers through cope in chief. Just go to tankertrackers.com
>>534397286Okay, that was good. Got me there, haha
>>534393213Trump is in the middle of a taco they need all hands on deck to do damage control for his raging stupidity.
>>534397433It's a token gesture you fucking retard, the cope committee led by France has no intention to do anything while there's an active conflict as stated by the cope committee themselves, if any of these nations get involved it would be political suicide for them you stupid nigger
>>534397433Has nothing to with Europe being "anti-war", but nice projection. It has do with rational cost-evaluation.>right now they're hoping that america will deal with it.So America can deal with it, but wants Europe to deal with it. Europe can deal with it, but wants America to. Both totally could easily do it anytime, though. That's your read on the situation? I have that about right?
>>534397494No, it's like getting knocked out for swinging at someone while they weren't looking.
>>534397278I honestly think they will, under some emergency obscure law that can be exploited. But also until november is a long time, shit will be already out of hand by mid June, idk how things will develop after that.
>>534397272>both recognize Iran's right to nuclear enrichment15 year freeze recognizes their right? Do you know what a right is?
>>534397512Me thinks some of those overworked gentlemen are in this very thread
>>534397347Do your homework pop
>>534397592Yes, it does. Again, this is Iran's own position they've offered since the talks prior to the war. If you think that doesn't make sense, maybe you should travel to Tehran and explain it to them.
>>534397519>token gestureFace culture is a third world thing actually. I know that things in india are different but here in the first world the idea of a country going on pointless military excursions so they can simply show up, do nothing and leave to "save face" is not reasonable.
>>534397554They'll just gaslight Americans into thinking whatever they want them to think. This ain't their first rodeo. Just because everybody hates Israel now doesn't change the fact that those making all the decisions are fully in the bag.
>>534397623Why even post when its this lame of a comeback man, sheer waste of time for both of us
>>534397494Well, it would be stupid to provoke a huge nigger when you're a skinny puny white boi weakling who can't take said nigger down.
>>534397551No, its like beating your wife nd kids because you got your ass kicked
>>534397625>maybe you should travel to Tehran and explain it to them.I support this
>>534397625>they've offered since the talks prior to the warPlease post source. I will change my mind. Perhaps iran is as hardline as ever
>>534397676Yeah ngl honestly a /pol/ delegation to advise the advisors in Tehran sounds like a great idea on second thought
everyone i'd like to inform you that im making the next thread and every thread after that now that i hav jannies on my side
Going to be uge. Lmao.20 hours ago appears past blockade. So much for us intervention.
>>534397669Why not both? Get your arse kicked after trying to cheap shot someone, then go home and beat your wife and kids to make yourself feel better
>>534397625>Iran’s right for enrichment, for peaceful use of nuclear technology, including enrichment, is undeniable,” the foreign minister continued. “We have this right and we continue to exercise that and we hope that the international community, including the United States, recognize our rights and understand that this is an inalienable right of Iran and we would never give up our rights.”This is Nov 2025
>>534394430Trump always means EST>A tanker has been hit by unknown projectiles in the Strait of Hormuz, the second incident in 12 hours.>The UKMTO said that a tanker reported being hit by unknown projectiles 78 nm north of Fujairah in the UAE. All the crew are reported to be safe and there was no environmental impact from the attack at 19:40 hrs UTC on 3 May.>It is the second attack in the space of 24 hours with a bulk carrier attacked by multiple small vessels 11 nm west of Sirik in Iran while northbound towards the Strait of Hormuz at 11:30 hrs UTC on 3 May. The vessel, most likely the Minoan Falcon based on AIS tracking from Pole Star Global, would appear to have reversed course following the attack and now be located offshore Fujairah.Iran has attacked ships in response to Trump's claim the US will begin escorts, their response is>Any American interference in the new maritime regime of the Strait of Hormuz will be considered a violation of the ceasefire.>The Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf would not be managed by Trump's delusional posts!
>>534397726It would be an international coalition of anti-semites and we'd have a blast. Imagining this fantasy excursion is heartwarming
>>534397726We should find the miggerest of miggers alone without any protection as a sign of trust and goodwill. Make sure he wears a shirt with huge star of david stamped on it. I am sure it will turn out fine, haha
>>534397716https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-us-cease-fire-talks-stalled-2026/card/in-a-shift-u-s-asked-iran-to-suspend-nuclear-enrichment-for-20-years-rlwtJa1iApyA67KQ7GO2?utm_source=chatgpt.com> Iran instead proposed a pause for only a few years, say Iranian officials...They've never seen this as inconsistent with maintaining the right to enrich itself. A pause =/= forfeiture of the right to enrich, which they want to maintain.
>>534397730The power has gone to his head, after just one thread
>>534397767people tend to underestimate how huge is the area they are trying to block, is not the Strait.
>>534397769I imagine this is America in this analogy
>>534397629>Military excursion>Only going to show up when everything is overI'm amazed someone such as yourself who's clearly mentally disabled is even able to use the internet, is your carer helping you?
>>534397767H U G E
>>534397866Correct
>>534397834Not paying. Thus is from April 18. Only proves iran is shifting its positions
>>534397769> Why not both? Get your arse kicked after trying to cheap shot someone, then go home and beat your wife and kids to make yourself feel betterThis is exactly how Israel behaves
>>534397726>a /pol/ delegation to advise the advisors in TehranThis literally already happened, kek.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_to_Review_the_Global_Vision_of_the_Holocaust
>>534397801>Trump always means ESTThat is what I assumed. I doubt he even understands time zones
>>534393346is this the end of the war?will Iran be retarded enough to accept peace and be backstabbed again?
>>534397834>>534397716Sorry I fucked up actually, this is pre current offer but not pre war.Better source:https://www.armscontrol.org/blog/2026-03-11/us-negotiators-were-ill-prepared-serious-nuclear-negotiations-iran?utm_source=chatgpt.com>The Arms Control Association received recordings and/or transcripts from several participants in the Feb. 28 and March 3 briefings. The Arms Control Association has not seen a copy of the Iranian proposal from the Feb. 26 talks but has heard descriptions of it from officials familiar with the contents. The description coincides with media reports: after a multi-year pause on uranium enrichment, Iran would resume an enrichment program based on fueling its planned reactors.
>>534397913Indeed. Which is why they are going to escalate in Gaza, because they are getting BTFO in Lebanon, just to make themselves feel better
>>534397911Yeah like I said, I fucked up. Posted the actual source above.
>>534397933This was made clear when people thought the ceasefire deadline was a day earlier than it was because the media was going off of Iran Standard Time and Trump said it was in EDT which "extended" it a day
>>534398004Brilliant.
>>534397730I'm glad America will be producing proper Pelicans again soon
>>534397948I hope they nuke the UAE and Kuwait before the war ends. If the nuke Saudia that would be a dream come true.
>>534397726>”you guys could do the funniest thing right now”
>>534397996>officials familiar with the contentsWhy are you so desperately trying to push iran stonk?
Why is Iran so pathetic?
