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>Another hundred years of Pax Americana confirmed
God dammit, who's can overthrow America now? INDIA FUCKING SAVE US
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>>534401553
The great market correction will save us
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USAs GDP growth being just the AI slop bubble
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>noo the guy who wants global free markets that i got insanely rich from as a first worlder is le bad
what causes this phenomenon
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china won't do shit
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>>534401553
DA GDP
LOOK AT LINE
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>>534401553
China: real economy

Shitmerica: bubbles, speculation and ponzi schemes
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>>534401555
The Internet was a DARPA project originally and people were calling it a fad back in the 90s. These bubbles never tend to disappear.
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>>534401555
Yeah. It's basically a hollow tree trunk, swaying in the winds of war. Listen carefully and you can hear the creaks.
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>>534401556
the revolutionary mind doesn't think long-term
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>>534401555
>>534401559
20 years from now when ai has real applications beyond drive thru assistant and internet slop you will still be crying about the bubble
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Line will go up until morale improves
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>>534401553
China pulled people out of poverty during that time frame. USA just opened more hobby lobbys and dollar trees
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>>534401560
How does the dotcom bubble compare to the shareholder value created by AI
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>>534401556
lefties want to hand the world over to china, they believe that the US will be the only country hollowed out and theirs will be spared when in reality every developed nation on earth will cede their purchasing power to them. Its just naive contrarianism
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>>534401563
You do not have 20 years anon, another year or two of AI doing nothing to justify its insane value and its joever
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>>534401560
Let me ask you a very fair question, how does any of that improve your life, if the GDP continues to go up surely your life as an American is getting better, that's why you're so proud. Please don't tell me all that money is just going to the same people in the top 0.01%, that would break my heart
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>>534401567
But my cunt is being hollowed out by usa already?
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>>534401559
You forgot about the petrodollar which is now going to disappear because of Trumpstein.

We won’t be able to export our inflation anymore and import cheap shit
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Diversity is our strength
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>>534401570
oh yeah im sure all those superior american cars running german automakers out of business is a big problem, unlike the chinese
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>>534401559
>>534401555
>NOOOOO AMERICA'S GDP GROWTH IS JUST BASED ON (greatest technological innovation of our lives)
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>>534401559
obligatory baboonzilian dogshit post
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>China: real economy

>Shitmerica: bubbles, speculation and ponzi schemes
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>>534401565
>America pulled Chinese people out of poverty during that time frame
Fixed that for you
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>>534401568
the same thing happened in the dotcom bubble, by everyone's modern expectations the internet should have died in 2001
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>>534401573
Usa blew up our pipeline anon
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>This is what America was scared of
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>>534401578
Did the dotcom bubble drive US gdp growth on its own? How much value was created vs how much was lost? Genuine question, because i cant imagine it was as insane as AI today
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>>534401579
>Trump in 2017: Don't tie your energy to Russia or you will be in trouble in a few years
>Germany: Nah nothin will happen lol
Got what you deserved
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>>534401582
>Hollowing you out is fine because we said so
Thanks for proving my point
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>>534401579
>i want to keep trading with the country that wants to take over all of eastern europe
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Taiwan is too stupid to realize that if they re-united with China then they'd surpass the US and become a utopia.
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>>534401583
Sorry, shouldn't have ditched Nuclear like retards. France today mogs you because they didn't fall for Russian anti-nuclear propaganda.
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>>534401585
The moment Hong Kong joined China it became a shithole. Taiwan doesn't want that to happen.
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>>534401555
And China’s?
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>>534401584
That is germanys choice to make
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>>534401585
Taiwan already is a utopia
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>>534401581
its much less, in 1999 6% of gdp was internet infrastructure capex, currently ai spend is 2%. Wiring every home to the internet and building out all the servers is expensive
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>>534401586
None of this is justification for blowing up an "allies" infrastructure anon
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>>534401587
they need both pieces. Only 1 doesn't work.
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>>534401589
>Russian on VPN tells you why Germany should continue to buy Russian oil
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>>534401590
>Freedom Index
The American that made this really thought he was eating kek
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>>534401591
But did all of that on its own drive US growth while the rest of the economy was stagnating?
>>534401594
Ich bin Deutscher mein lieber amifreund
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>>534401553
Everything I ever told /int/ was right and you were all just too stupid to listen. I warned brits about the NHS back when it might have mattered. I warned canadians about, well, almost everything the past ten years.
The only thing surprising about this is that China kept up the facade about 18 months longer than I expected they would back in 2015.

Anyways someone tell me why 4chan X suddenly doesn't have download buttons or vid collapse buttons on /gif/ please
I'm not in any of the gay "modes" by accidents or anything and I still have download buttons here
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>>534401595
>GDP doesn't matter
>Pollution doesn't matter
>Standard of living doesn't matter
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>>534401589
a dumb short term choice to make considering that they are directly opposed to the EU
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>>534401569
Let me ask you something, why should other people have to pay you "your fair share" to exist or conduct business? You aren't a monarch you dumb nigger.
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>>534401582
>Trump in 2017: stop buying cheap energy to make your industry competitive, buy our very expensive LNG to save our fracking business from bankruptcy or we'll bomb your pipelInes
FTFY
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>>534401599
The US is opposed to EU as well, but at least russia doesnt sell overpriced oil
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>>534401588
Ghost cities
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>>534401602
A little too obvious Ivan on a VPN
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>>534401604
Prove me wrong then
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>>534401605
Sorry, I don't speak Russian.
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>>534401569
let me ask you something, if the government prints money and funds your social programs to let you live like a king until there's inevitable hyperinflation 30 years down the road, is that something you support? alternatively, whats wrong with a government focusing on growing the economy so that the weight of social programs becomes lighter in the future? whats wrong with sacrificing short term comfort so that the US economy can be so insanely powerful that funding something like UBI becomes a trivial task
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>>534401598
Taiwan and Canada are both full of yellow monkeys btw
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>>534401569
>The ethnicity most famous for fleeing to America is trying to ask why America is better than Mexico.
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>>534401607
Do you think theyll ever fund more/better social programms with these profits anon
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>>534401604
>VPN off, Ivan!
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>>534401611
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>534401610
yeah why wouldnt they? the only reason we currently dont have them is because we're piling on debt
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>>534401609
>>534401607
>>534401600
not a single answer I'm crine
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>>534401614
>America bad
>Now let me hop the border to America
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>>534401614
short answer is gdp go up makes gibs gooder
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>>534401602
you're right but the russian invasion of crimea started in 2014 and the mindless continuation of merkel's discount ostpolitik was a colossal mistake, in hindsight
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>>534401613
Countries with worse finances than US have no problem financing good social programmes. If you think its a debt issue, i believe you are coping
>>534401617
Thats a fair point, i still think none of this justifies economic terrorism
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>>534401615
I live comfortably in my country and Im not moving, you parents couldnt say the same
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>>534401553
please America get rid of the jewish yoke
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>>534401614
I did answer. The premise of your question is wrong. Other people don't exist to serve you, you dumb nigger.
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>>534401618
these countries are not future oriented, often post growth and stopped innovating a long time ago. There's a reason why the US is the only developed country left that is doing real research while the rest are just coasting, china is the only one that has enough money coming in to do the innovation and welfare system part at the same time
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>>534401553
i mean do I even have to say it cause its so obvious:
That trend is not sustainable.
That line is representing the rich. They are absorbing the middle class and we are moving towards a 2-class economy like Antoinette France. And we saw how that ended.
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>>534401623
The only non delusional American itt wow
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>>534401622
Insane mutt drivel. Anyways lets assume youre right about this all, what good is all this innovation and progress if tens of millions in your country are struggling with expenses? Why not have better social care now, instead of waiting for rich folk to get just a bit richer and hoping theyll share then?
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>>534401625
because we cant afford it, neither can you. France is a peak into what your future looks like
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>>534401626
The US govt can afford multiple wars at a time and at the same time lower taxes on wealthy + bail them out if needed. You are deluding yourself if you think theres not enough money
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>>534401563
Drpends if you have savings invested in a fund relying on AIshit. You are too young to remember the dot.com burst at the very beginning of the 2000s, it overlaped with 9-11 and the nonsense 2nd gulf war.
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>>534401627
we can afford to do that because we dont have welfare systems, meanwhile if something were to ever happen to germany, like i dunno russia encroaching on your sphere of influence then you have to tear down parts of your welfare system to make room for war.
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you guys need to chill
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>>534401623
Sucks to be you, peasant.
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>>534401629
So there is enough money, its just not going where it needs to. Or will you now claim all these wars are needed?
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>>534401632
the wars themselves are not needed no but the miltiary spending is needed but im not gonna get into that because ii dont want to be here for the next two hours
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>>534401593
Does Taiwan need China?
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>>534401633
>Yes its needed
>No i wont explain why
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>>534401635
yeah im not going to spend that much effort and time on the basket weaving forum
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>>534401553
GDP growth has nothing to do with our quality of life anymore
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>>534401636
I have no choice but to assume its not needed then
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>>534401635
If the United States cut its defense spending, its opponents would begin to erode its
>control over the middle east's oil exporters
>control over semiconductor chokepoints
>ability to sanction other countries as the pace of dedollarization would pick up
>ability to enforce freedom of navigation
They have to keep funding their massive world-spanning defense apparatus if they want to preserve their status and privileges.
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Much rather america than china, and if you say otherwise, you're a bootlicker
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>>534401639
Thank you, i dont know why the mutt said this would take hours to explain. But then i suppose, is this privilige worth it for the average americans at this point?
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>>534401553
r1a chimpout is the only option
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>>534401640
Id like no dicks in my mouth
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>>534401560
The Internet WAS a fad in the 90's. When people bring up the Dot Com bubble, they don't understand why it happened. It was every company under the sun buying a web domain and thinking they could sell shit on their isolated little storefront.
>yes, hello, I am manure dot com, would you like to buy manure from me?
Investor bros ate this shit up in the 90's, and there were big alarm bells that not every single one of these specialty websites were going to ever see profit. But investors kept shoveling cash into them anyway, until the bubble popped and we were left with a few survivors like Amazon, who sold books online and managed to scrape through the bubble by playing it smart.

AI is the exact same thing. Does everything need an AI chatbot? No, absolutely not. But investors shovel money into the concept anyway, until the bubble pops and we're left with a few survivors.
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>>534401644
The USA of the 90s and of today arent in the same spot id say.
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>>534401645
The AI bubble pattern is identical, however.
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>>534401646
I agree yes
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>>534401644
big difference is that all the money is in infrastructure spending for AI instead of something intangible like domains. When the bubble pops we'll be leftover with massive datacenters that can be repurposed for something else
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>>534401643
I don't like America either, but china is fucking terrible and will kill us all. Strange how you mentioned dick sucking unprompted tbqh, wonder why.
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>>534401641
Let's say that it benefits the country and its citizens in general, but those benefits are not equally distributed among them.
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>>534401598
>GDP doesn't matter

it litterly doesn't (anymore), when half of yoru GDP comes just from circulating money and making money out of nothing.
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>>534401556
Propaganda and retardation.
>>534401567
They're a fifth column, demoralized and useful-idiotized.
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>>534401590
taiwan is only successful because of infrastructure japan built btw.
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>>534401553
Life will be EZ for us Americans with AI and American companies dominating the space. Even if they take all the jobs, politicians will have to give us more concessions to make up for the rage. But for the rest of the world, you're probably doomed if this trend continues.
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>>534401553
Line goes up means world more gooder
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>>534401578
Thats not how bubbles work, mentally handicapped migger bro.
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>>534401553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_economy
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>>534402109
>politicians will have to give us more concessions to make up for the rage.
what rage is this, the same rage you showed when niggers were ransacking your streets? or the rage when you lost your job for not taking an experimental vaccine? let me guess, THIS TIME it will be different ror rumao
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>>534401637
it does. a constant positive gdp growth is needed for your quality of life to not fall
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>>534401563
China developed deepseek with a few million dollars. Not billions like the retard, hand over fist money being thrown at ai in the U.S. It's like the defense contractors. Gets thrown stupid money to be at basically the same level as Russia/China with vastly lower production rates.
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>>534401578
The U.S. economy in late 90s early 2000s was fundamentally healthier compared to now. The economy is down right decrepit right now dude and a similar shock like the dot com crash would be catastrophic if it happened today. You add the geopolitical situation and it's not clear at all that it will be a "business as usual correction".
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>>534401600
>why should other people have to pay you "your fair share"

Well this gets to the crux of the issue. Seemly America abandoned any idea of a 'social contract' and got into its head that human beings exist to serve corporations not the other way around. Why shouldn't these corporate entities be forced to pay people a certain amount? I mean they already are forced to pay taxes and conform to minimum wage and labor laws. The logical steps are already there to force these entities to do things to serve living human beings.
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ITT people learn about exchange rates
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>>534401553
you save us, china saan
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>>534401553
zoom out
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>>534401555
True. The entire last year US economy growth was due to AI

Anyone who bought 50k sandisk last year is basically a millionaire now

>>534401588
they make cars now, telecom tech, phones, etc

BYD, MG cars, huawei, zte, etc

There's a high change your local base station in the US if it was installed before sanctions has chinese hardware
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>>534403056
>healthier compared to now

How is it not obvious?
Why do you even have to mention that?
A lot of penny stock companies (from 1000 to pennies now) are run by indians that steal investors money
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>>534401553
GDP is measured in dollars, which are getting inflated to hell and back right now.
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>>534401555
Hope you are right
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>>534401553
America just says their currency is worth more every single day. They inflate their GDP by making things cost double every 5 years which makes things look like they're constantly going upwards. It's all fake and gay.
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>>534401567
the US is currently hollowed out to an insane degree thanks to the yid 5th column that's been running the country
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>>534401555

Cope
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>>534403056
>the economy is decrepit dude trust me
Idk man, I'm making the most money I ever have in my entire life and I can actually save and invest some now while still living comfortably and feeding my family. You sound like a minimum wage loser and you probably live with your parents.(that by itself isn't bad but it is when you're a fucking retard like you)

What do you do for work?
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>>534401553
>line go up so murica economy more gooder
What does america even produce now apart from corn, soi, and hollyslop? China makes everything now.
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>>534407349
I was going to say the corvette but that probably had a lot of chinese parts



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