Thread for the discussion of the Christian Question (CQ) and the effects of Christianity (the original destructive jewish psyop) on Europe and the White race over the last 1500 years. Without examining the CQ, we cannot look at the JQ.Reading - The Communism of Antiquity by Alain de Benoist: https://westsdarkesthour.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Alain-essay.pdf>"Would not any man be justified in detesting the more intelligent among you, or pitying the more foolish, who, by following you, have sunk to such depths of ruin that they have abandoned the ever-living gods and have gone over to the corpse of the Jew".- Emperor Julian>"Fascism, I think, was the most radical revolutionary movement that Europe has seen since the age of Constantine. Because unlike the French Revolution, unlike the Russian Revolution, it doesn’t even target institutional Christianity: it targets the moral/ethical fundamentals of Christianity. The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution are still preaching the idea that the victim should be raised up from the dust and that the oppressor should be humbled into the dust; it’s still preaching the idea that the first should be last and the last should be first just as Christ has done. The Nazis do not buy into that". - Tom Holland>"The reason the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity".- Adolf Hitler (Table Talk)>"So the last will be first, and the first last".Matthew 20:16>"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus".Galatians 3:28
>>534402595calm down nigel ibn khatib
This is now a Jehovah's Witnesses thread. AMA
>>534402595This is deranged drivel. Give me your best logically sound argument against Christianity in a historical context. Fact is. When God ruled Europe, we ruled the world. God gave us Christendom the greatest civilization the world has ever seen. If you want to discuss theology then prove or at least state that you have read and understood the Bible and at least one basic book in systematic theology.
>>534403481Jehova's Witnesses is a demonic subversion of Christianity. >Jehovah's Witnesses: History Of The Watchtower Organizationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI4a4PcNIE8How is it going with your end-of-the-world prophecy within the last generation experiencing WWI? You made that claim all over the world. Your organization is proven Satanic fraud and a creation of the illuminati. Pic related.
Christianity comes from the butthole. It is incompatible with preserving your race
>>534403768>Christianity comes from the butthole. It is incompatible with preserving your raceThis is the level of discourse from these anti-White, anti-Christian, anti-European morons. Virtually all of them are Jews, brown invaders and homosexual White traitors. Some are laughable Satanists. All of them are weak, immoral, low-IQ and traitors/enemies to the White race, our civilisation, and great heritage.
>>534403768You are too stupid and nasty to be White. That would also explain your rabid anti-Christian drivel.
we need to talk about this more. christianity is the single greatest npc source in the western world.i came up with that term "residual christcuckery", scientists have picked it up. made it kosher. still, its real. literal brain damage.https://youtu.be/cmXiATStkCo
>>534403991>christianity is the single greatest npc source in the western world.Then why did we get anti-White, anti-European, NPC globohomo solely after you godless and godhating boomers ditched Christianity and embraced Jews, atheism and paganism?
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>>534403991>christianity is the single greatest npc source in the western worldThen why do you atheists and pagan morons, traitors to the West and White race, vote to the left of Jews (how is that even possible)?
>>534404142>>534403991>>534403855>>534403706>>534403608>The eternal christ cuck nord.Very sad.
>>534402595Hinduism is European
>>534402595Is this true? Are you a brown Muslim larping as a White pagancuck?
>>534404086we got all of that after christians handed jews control of the money supply, and they used their infinite money to purchase infinite assets and now they promote anti-white globohomo nonsense. has nothing to do with lack of faith. lack of faith started with the internet. not enough controlled sources of information allowed jesus got arrested with a naked boy posters to reach the normies.
>>534404162>Very sad.
>>534403608Best argument is that it's a dege state foreign ideology that brought nothing of value to europe we didn't already have
>>534404225This is just incoherent myths and utter rubbish. Give me your best argument based on documented fact and logic. Not you lying about history and presenting your own emotional and false drivel as facts. Tray again, faggot. If you are a "nationalist" and are attacking Christianity, - you are either a Jew, an imbecile, or a traitor. No exceptions.If you post this to Devon Stack (blackpilled), he will block you and yes, he really is this pathetic and psycho-infantile.-Empirical data: Christians are the largest and most devout nationalist group among whiteshttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/299951933
The most devout protestants are in Orania and thriving relative to the hellhole of a continent around them, the most devout catholics are in Poland and are the least brownified in europe, the most devout orthodox are in Greece and well... idk their baklava is pretty yummy i guess. Any religion stronger than deism doesn't really resonate with me but it's pretty obvious the west should be christian again and take it seriously, we'd go back go having kids and throwing kikes down wells
>>534404162that is a deranged cryptokike named levi jensen, expect 75+ retarded posts calling everyone a jew
>>534404256>brought nothing of value to europe we didn't already haveHow did you reach that false conclusion? What research did you do? What books did you read? Name them. Roman Empire had no inventions. Christian Europe made over 90% of all major inventions known to mankind. Roman Empire was not even in top ten, while the Christian British Empire was the largest and greatest empire the world has ever seen. Moral relativism and objective morality are LOGICALLY inherent within atheism and paganism, as you reject God as a giver of objective morality and you have no other source for objective morality. This gave us the insane atheist your-truth and my-truth moral garbage that is plaguing the post-Christian West today and giving us atheist morons asking: who are we to say FGM and pedo-marriage is wrong?
>>534404306>Look, Christians side with the Red Jew not the Blue Jew>This is a good thingYou are delusional. Europe was great because we are European and because we were a proud and nationalistic people. Christianity has nothing to do with that. We were great because of our genetic supremacy. If anything the weakness of Christianity, it's universality and insistence on slave values, is what lead us to this decayed state we exist in. We must once again regain the confidence that we are just better than the rest of the planet, because we are. Unfortunately I doubt that will happen while there are people (such as yourself) trying to sublimate our intrinsic greatness with an external (foreign) religion.
>>534403991>Christianity begins to decline in the west>Fabric of society immediately begins to fall apart>"How could this be happening? Clearly we need less Christianity and more secular humanism, that will fix it.Retard alter
>>534402595Also it's kind of bizarre that julian the apostate looked down on christians for simping for a dead jew while he himself simped for living jews by lifting all the restraints on jewish worship and letting them try to rebuild their temple
>>534404456>cryptokike named levi jensenThis is how sad and tragic you demonic Jews and pagans truly are. You are lying about my identity and you have done it in ever thread I have been in for years. You are children, you don't care about the White race, you don't care about Europe, you don't care about truth. Case in point, give me your BEST argument for how you deranged and slimy Jews/Pagans "know" that I am based Levi Jensen. Do it, lying faggot. Best argument. You are all trash and you hate the White race and our great Christian heritage.
Have you noticed Christians act here like they did in Europe and Rome? Playbook has not changed./pol/ wasn't Christian, but now Christians come, try to subvert this place. Or they say Christianity is compatible with /pol/, more /pol/ than /pol/. If you point out how false this is, they claim opression. If you're not with them, even neutrality, is counted as opposition. They claim anti-christians are flooding the board, or their spam is deleted. Then they effortlessly try to say /pol/ was always Christian, and opposition is work done by shills.Paganism was barely even topic here, like Christianity. But after e-christians came, people began countersignaling it with paganism.
>>534403991It's because Christianity became secular liberalism.
>>534404501Thousands of years of European history from the Roman era and backwards shows white people were just as sadistic and cruel modern day negros at Skid Row. Most people just focus on the architecture, philosophers, writings while ignoring the wars, rape, kidnapping, genocides, slavery, human trafficking, human sacrifice, etc. The average European and Scandanavian were not architects, philosophers, and poets.
>>534404608B-b-but its based when it happens in a big arena
>>534402595Before Christianity and Judaism arose, did humanity go to heaven after death? To hell? Or did it depend on each individual's actions in life?
>>534403608I was baptized in an orthodox church as a kid but was never religious. I like the aesthetic but I can't see beyond the christcuckery. Is it worth giving Christianity a chance
>>534403481You seem like an insane cult for every normal European. Why are burgers so susceptible to this kind of shit?
>>534404501>Look, Christians side with the Red Jew not the Blue Jew>This is a good thingOne side OPENLY sides with non-Whites against Whites in legislation, politics etc. One side openly promote open borders, globohomo and the destruction of the White race, atheists and pagans vote together with Jews, negreos and brown invaders. You are documented traitors. Deal with it. >Christianity has nothing to do with that>If anything the weakness of Christianity, it's universality and insistence on slave valuesHave you read and understood the Bible ever? Have you read a single book in systematic theology? If not, why do you moron even bother to post here about great Christianity? >is what lead us to this decayed state we exist inAnd that for some weird coincidence only happened after 2000 years and just after White traitors decided to ditch Christianity in the late 60s? Ryte lying faggot?
>>534404622Yes. The Colosseum, which you're alluding too, was mostly either slaves, prisoners of war, or criminals. There were some free men that chose to become gladiators, but the majority were from one of those categories. That's a far cry from random street nigger violence.>>534404608Shut up kike.
>>534402595Some in here claim Christianity made Europa and the white supremacy. Funny, as the last and the current pope (and we all know that they are the most powerful Christians!) opened the gates for Wokes and LGBTQ and the like. How weak was that? They suppressed their followers for 2000 years and taught them submission only to tell them now: Hey, we were wrong, you can fuck anyway you like, identity as anything you want as long as you keep on believing our Shit. No way! They literally became fashion victims! Lol, because they were to lazy and to weak to explain what God or the idea of him is all about. Like a father who gives in to the stupidities of his teenage kids till they became drug addicted zombies. I do understand the concept of "compassion" for the weak and retarded lol BUT Hitler and his Nazis would have done a better job for Europa and humanity in general.
>>534404501Tell me where I can find nation states and thus nationalism in paganism or atheism. Show me your primary source(s).Blood and soil is a Christian concept. There is no nation-state in paganism or atheism. You have roaming pagancuck tribes and empires. Nation-state is a foreign concept for them, and is the reason why Varg will not call himself a nationalist. Compare that to Christianity.Hallmark of European Civilisation, in contrast to all other continents, is our independent nation states, not Empires or under Empires, that came from Christianity, based on how God commanded Israel. How God commands us to rule as nations is found in the Old Testament, how God commands us to behave towards fellow humans is found in the New Testament, for us Christians. The Jewish claim that you have nationalism without Christianity or that Christianity is supposedly anti-nationalism is ludicrous. Our European nation-states, based on Christianity and shown throughout our European history are:>One Volk (population) in one state>Homogeneous population>One language, one culture, one history, one destiny>Self-government>Fixed borders>Defending the borders with military power>No race-mixingJust look at Europe and America after pagancucks and godless boomers ditched Christianity. Judeo-Satanic Freemasonry gave us the French Revolution, which rejected the Christian concept of blood and soil, and giving Jews, gypsies and any foreigner full citizenship rights.
>>534403608Whites were creating kingdoms despite Christianity, not because of it. Tribes conquering remnants of Rome, creating kingdoms. European geography makes sure lit of kingdoms whuch will fight one another, and conflict and high iq drives innovation. Which would have made Europe powerful no matter what.
>>534404663Not him but i'll give an argument (that i myself won't even follow)Christianity insists on an all-encompassing hierarchy with god at the top, then man, then woman, then child, and gives the metaphysical (and ecclesial and ultimately political, if we're talking catholic/orthodox) foundation for such a hierarchy. Most importantly, it insists this hierarchy be as gentle and merciful as it can to the next lowest rung while not undermining society's functioning.Atheism, kikery, religious indifference, neoLARPaganism, fascism, communism, whatever, all either reject the notion of hierarchy entirely or insist on a niggerishly brutal one. Neither are good choices. And the anglo protestant dream of a horizontal libertarian paradise of white landowners has clearly failed, so either come up with something entirely new and be the next hitler or go back to church
>>534404306i dont talk to jew worship shilling chatbots. unless youre the jew worship shilling chatbot known colloquially as Levi Jensen. ill make an exception for you Levi.christianity is an abrahamic religion.abrahamic religions are globalist religions.their primary goal is to conquer the free [of jews] nations and to create a single global slave state under a jewish king.nations with self-determination and sovereignty are a direct threat to your jewish plan, the plan which all abrahamic groups engage in.thou shalt blood eagle jews in the streetsince jews have deprived you of your material blessings, deprive jews of their lives, and recuperate your losses from among his stolen wealth.
>>534402595Pagan God's are loving?
>>534404501Adam Green, Devon Stack, and the rest of the midwit imbeciles are lying through their teeth about Christians and Christianity being behind pathological altruism, despite that only occurred with the godless and god-hating boomers in the 1960s. And they have of course no hard data or renowned historical Christian theologian to back it up. They are dishonest deceivers, and if you post hard data to Devon Stack, he will block you, as the little man he is. Pic. White atheists and pagans (who are predominantly liberal/left) are the ONLY group who are traitors to their people/race and prefer/side with foreigners over their nations.
>>534404879None of them love you enough to throw you into hellfire. Barely any love.
>>534404495Should be easy to give just a single example of something good your semitic religion introduced to europe then, just the one...
>>534404603christianity becomes whatever jews need it to. its their jewish religion, goyim are just dumb enough to follow it
>>534404736>One side OPENLY sides with non-Whites against Whites in legislation, politics etc.They both do that, one sides with niggers and spics. The other with Jews. Interesting the one that sides with Jews is the one that you claim is the good pro-white side. Curious given what the other anon said about you.>Literally no argumentsI've stated quite clearly that European greatness comes from intrinsic European supremacy, to prove that ask you look at Rome, or Greece. Powerful European nations, one which ruled vast tracks of the globe. Neither were Christian, in fact Rome started to decline after Constantine I allowed Catholicism to become the state religion. I can not imagine an alleged "pro-white" poster trying to sublimate European supremacy by associating it with a foreign, middle eastern religion.The issues in recent years has been encroaching liberalism that has eroded the notion that we, by virtue of race, are greater than the others.>>534404773>Tell me where I can find nation states and thus nationalism in paganism or atheism. Show me your primary source(s).Rome. China. Japan. All nationalistic, Rome was pagan, China atheistic and I'm not sure about Japan. The notional that you can only have nationalism through Christianity is utterly bizarre >>534404921>The third replyHoly shit, clearly I've touched a nerve. You are worshiping a Jew. I am praising Europe.
>>534404501Your pic is a joke and reveals the thinking of a child or a midwit redditor from /r/atheism, always pushed hard by ignorant traitors like Red Ice and Devon Stack. Ethiopia, only sub-Sahara African country with an ancient written language. Only African country with native use of wheel, two-story houses etc. Survived Muslim occupation for centuries with culture and faith intact. Compare that to atheist Sweden, inviting in and paying for the mudslime invading rapists. Compare Ethiopian culture and heritage to the pagan dominated sub-Saharan hell holes.Compare pic to 5 century Celts etc. Pic. Ethiopian Orthodox 5th century Church, Abuna Yemata Guh
>>534404501Modern: Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity - The Church of Our Lady Mary, Axum, Ethiopia
>>534404501Their written language is not Greek based but native to Ethiopia, same with much of their art etc.
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>>534404501Ethiopian Orthodox Christians Lalibela Priests
>>534402595XNITY PRIMERhttp://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1a-9eWjZWH-6uUOcRFJ4hFsgB2vOhdZZfgoogle drive easy to use interface...read moar discern moar
>>534404501Christian Ethiopia survived Muslim occupation for centuries. Their culture, DNA and heritage is intact. Compare that to White atheist ape Sweden, or pretty much any other European nation, inviting in and paying for the hordes of brown Muslim invaders.
Not this kike thread again.
>>534404501Ethiopia’s Pagan Mursi tribe
>>534405017>>534405021>>534405031>>534405044>Christ cuck>Worships and praises niggersPretty standard. It was Christ cucks that liberated them after all.
>>534404501Dignified and devout Ethiopian Christian female. Compare that to the atheist ape and pysho pagan White females still running around in White nations. It's an incredible embarrassment and shame for us.
>>534404501>>534405113White women without Christianity. Great. Thanks a lot godless and godhating boomers. Time to stuff your deranged atheism and paganism up your ass. You destroyed Western Civilisation.
>>534402595Legit. Find any anti-christ shitter who isn't a vile garbage cunt.
>>534402595muslim-tier sub-zero IQ quotes.modern christianity is fake, subverted by jews.nazis are the only friend of the real church really and the only who honors agreements, its all the others who bombed the civilian churches. hitler says priests have to serve god, and not any political party. just like church dont meddle in politics, nazi dont meddle in the churches business.
>spend centuries deliberately subverting and murdering pagans to prop up your death cult>label anyone who sees you for what you are as a heretic and put them to the torch>rampage across the world in the name of peace and love>now people are finally realizing how bullshit of a religion christianity is>wtf why are you being mean to us we dindu nuffin for this
>>534405206Might makes Right. Power is Absolute.
>>534404603>>534404977You two are too stupid to be White and that would also explain your deranged hatred for Christian Europe. Christianity has the Word of God, the Bible and is thus FIXED and can't evolve into anything else. That Jews and atheists apes together with pedo pagancucks trying to subvert and change Christianity do not count.
>>534405012You can praise Europe and be aware of European supremacy and vote for nationalist politicians and to have shitskins deported and still abide by christian morality. You only care about the argument you're making because you want to whack off and you have fantasies of engaging in political violence (which will never ever ever ever happen because you are a pussy) and christianity doesn't approve of its followers doing either of those things
>>534405206the achmeds are upset this fine evening
>>534403608>Give me your best logically sound argument against Christianity in a historical context.man doesn't come back from the deadand is also not born of a virgin
>>534405012You are just too stupid to deal with. I clearly stated nation-state and you gave me empires. You are a low-IQ midwit and need to fuck off back to /r/atheism. The rest of your post is just more unfounded, unsubstantiated incoherent drivel.
>>534404537are secular humanists importing 70iq africans and indians en masse into 100+ IQ countries?no, its christcucks. and jews, acting as christcucks. because thats all christianity is for a jew, a skin suit to cheerlead and promote zog/jewry's global politikchristians are jews in trainingspiritual jews.
>>534405282You have never seen Ghost?
>>534405282That's theology and learn what a logically sound argument is. Google it atheist ape, pic related.
>>534405255>christianity doesn't approve of its followers doing either of those thingsChristianity doesn't approve of engaging in political violence to save your people? Sounds pretty cuck desu.>>534405304>I clearly stated nation-state and you gave me empires.>The rest of your post is just more unfounded, unsubstantiated incoherent drivel.I accept your concession.
>>534405314I'm guessing the last names of all the people working in those organizations aren't names like "Smith", "Cooper", "Midtbø", etc
>>534405360You are the cuck one for losing.
>>534405360Catholicism allows it if a statesman sponsors it. Every other condition for Just War, in their eyes, is currently met in the west against shitskin invaders, even if they wouldn't admit it themselves
>>534405314jews and muslims follow rabbinic law lad
>>534405314Name ALL the based atheist and pagan help organizations that refused to help brown refugees. Is it even legal in the US?We only opened the flood gates of hordes of brown invaders AFTER you godless boomers ditched Christianity and embraced atheism and paganism.
>>534405314I checked the organizations flooding Europe with illegal immigrants, mainly picking them up outside at the coast of North-Africa and they ALL are non-Christian, secular humanist groups like Doctors without borders. Your list deals with legal UN refugees etc, even when the Christian organizations are subverted/pressured by Jews and secular governments.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d79N3E4mhPs
>>534404851You present your own incoherent drivel as documented facts. Try again redditor midwit.
>>534405332did he pop out of a virgin cunt and then rise from the dead or did he not? if not, then your entire cult which is built on those two fundamental events is bunk>that's theologyi don't care how you categorize impossible events. there's only one history and it doesn't involve zombie jews
>>534405511In any form of news, fiction, and situation. You always identified with the beta boy who get cucked, not the bull who fuck your bitch.Why is that?
>>534405511If you are God and create all known matter and life, how would it be LOGICALLY impossible for such a God to do anything of what you mentioned? How low is your IQ? Why do we ONLY get the worst atheist morons here?
>>534405428so does jesus christso do all christiansthey follow the noahide laws, they dont kill jews do they? a people who wish to conquer and enslave everyone permenantly, and kill off all the men? no, they offer them refuge, build them homes, work for them, slave their lives away so jews can do whatever they want in life.they follow the rabbi saul's laws too. always pay taxes, never resist tyrants, owing jews material blessings in exchange for the jews spiritual blessings. jews have christians wrapped around their finger, im surprised they havent leaned into this more because they have christcucks cucked. paying for flights out of pocket to go pick fruit on moshe's stolen land for free. theres no one more cucked than a christcuck.
>>534405571I'm the one who fuck your wife.
>>534404841>then man, then woman, then child,It doesnt.... stop using the old testament... its not Christianity. Literally the whole core of Christianity is that everyone is equal infront of God. Be it King or a beggar. I will never understand why you Americans are so hung on the old Testament, you dont even understand why its part of the Bible.
>>534405314Many aspects of Christianity have been infiltrated by Jews and Marxists, no one is debating that. If you look at the boards of these organizations they'll be filled with tinyhats. They know they can parasitize Christian benevolence and turn the organization in their own favor. Moreover, look at the voting habits of atheists: they're overwhelmingly left-wing. Neopagans are statistically insignificant, but many of them vote left as well. Why are you advocating for more leftism?>>534405571"rabbinic law" (the talmud) didn't exist during the lifetime of Jesus. Furthermore, trying to correlate Jesus with the modern-day hooknoses is actually a zionist position to take. Modern Jews have no ethnic connection to Jesus, and the Holy Land in general.
>>534405668You are incorrect
>>534405692It's the other way arounf. We are the one using them, and they will discarded by the end while Christianity will become more Powerful, and Omnipresence.
>>534404177Go back and worship those rats in your Hindustan rat temple, faggot. After that, roll around with some snakes that you also worship.
>>534405692>infiltrated by JewsKekIt was invented by jews
>>534405571>christians follow noahide law christians are considered idolaters according to noahide law. idolatry is punishable by death via beheading. you're pretty new to this I see, yes? and christians follow kosher/halal law? circumcision? celebrate yom kippur as jews and muslims do? law against eating pork? kek of course not.
>>534404805>Whites were creating kingdoms despite ChristianityAnd those kingdoms were nothing special compared to the rest of the world. China had kingdoms even Empires. Persia had empires, Mesopotamia had empires. What Greeks and Romans had was nothing special. Europe didnt become a world power house until it became Christian
>>534405699Amazing argument. Did your child didling mega Church tell you that?
>>534405747Again, you're making a Zionist argument. The Judeans of the 1st century are not the Jews of modern day, not ethnically, culturally or even religiously. When you try to equate the two, you implicitly argue for the legitimacy of Israel.
>>5344049521. I already did, objective morality2. End of human sacrifice3. A God who judges our actions post death, meaning you will self-correct ,a reason why the US functioned so well without even any kind of police presence in the early pioneer days. If that had been Hindustan or Islam, most women would have been raped, there would have been rampant looting of the settlers etc etc. I can go on for weeks. Educate yourself.
>>534405865lol who told you that?
>>534405747Nope, Abraham got it, didn't created anything, then the traitors were expelled, Imagine a chaos cult that roleplay as imperial in 40k, that's modern jews.
>>534405908rabbinic judaism that jews and muslims follow wasn't codified until around 500ad, shortly after one of the final compilations of the talmud that jews and muslims follow.
>>534405908It's the truth and you know it
>>534405878>objective moralityKnown to Europeans before your jewish religion was invented> End of human sacrificebanned by Rome before your religion was invented>A God who judges our actions post deathold idea, Europeans knew all about these ideas
>>534405747>It was invented by jewsYou state that moronic claim as a documented fact. So tell me, HOW did you reach that false conclusion? What research did you do, what books did you read? Name them, but you have absolutely NOTHING, don't you atheist ape?
>>534405953No one is talking about religion, you can't convert out of your ethnicity
>>534402595Before the living God Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, I am dust and ashes, conceived in iniquity, a breath that passeth away, a worm and no man; I have no righteousness of my own, no wisdom unstained by vanity, no strength unborrowed, no purity unpolluted, no word worth speaking unless mercy first cleanses my lips. Against Thee, O Lord, against Thee only have I sinned; my pride is madness, my self-trust is rebellion, my imagined light is darkness, and all my splendour is as a fading flower beneath the judgement of the Holy One. Have mercy upon me, O God, according to Thy lovingkindness; wash me throughly from mine iniquity, create in me a clean heart, and cast me down until every false crown is broken, every proud thought is made captive, and the creature remembers that it is clay before the Potter, nothing before the I AM, and saved only by grace.Hallelujah, Jah, Jah;Hallelujah, Adonai;Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, have mercy;Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, remember me;I am dust, I am ash, I am nothing before Thy throne;Jah, Jah, mercy; Jah, Jah, judgement;let my vanity perish, let my sin be washed,let my tongue cry repentance until the false prophet within me is silent.(Psalm 51:1–4, 10; Genesis 18:27; Psalm 22:6; Isaiah 40:6–8; Isaiah 64:6; Romans 3:10–12; 2 Corinthians 10:5)
>>534405999Tell me. Have you ever seen a Ghost? Why do you think they are just Concept?
>>534406030Lol moron, look at that pic, that's the guy that wrote most of your bible
>>534405816Nice to you to admit that you don't think Europe is special. Very honest of you. You only care about how it was Christian. You though didn't address my point how Europe was going to become powerful no matter what.
>>534406062No, I'm not insane
>>534406044this whole thread is about religion, achmed. you know that.
>>534406089Always igbored me, huh? Guess you know well that you will never win. What a fucking loser.
>>534406111Religion is downstream of race shanqueesa
>>534406102You can see them with a sane mind. Just sleep on the 0hz frequency.
>>534402595I think it is easier to deconstruct the whole fairy tale by examining the historical and archeological evidence for the stories in the Torah aka the old testament. That evidence can be described as: none. No Noah, Adam, Eve, David, Solomon, Abraham, Moses, etc. What has also been studied is the texts and where the stories and content came from. And the evidence on that is the "jewish" priesthood 'borrowed' it from surrounding cultures.. Egypt, the ancient Mesopotamians, and Greece... heavily borrowing from Greece and Plato. Jesus being from the line of the fictional David is a fiction. Not surprisingly, there is zero independent, contemporary historical evidence for this jesus character.The story of martyrs, persections and the rapid spread of christianity are equally fake. The post-temple jews known as 'christians' were a small cult until they gained influence by backing Constantine in the civil war. Once they gained power through the state they started using that power to eliminate their competition. Some good narrative on that is in chapters 7-9 in Ken Humphreys book Jesus Never Existed available for free in audio:https://m.youtube.com/@JesusNeverExistdWas it a (((coincidence))) that the foundations of feudalism started theysame time christianity gained power? I don't think so. Also the church was able to excuse itself from taxes and make itself not subject to state law. Sounds kind of jewy don't you think?
>>534405999>Known to Europeans before your jewish religion was inventedYou are too stupid to understand the concept of objective morality. HOW did these pagancucks find objective morality?>banned by Rome before your religion was inventedThey openly dedicated the slaughter of Christians in the circus to their pagan gods. Read Tertullian and other primary sources. Pagan and Christian. >A God who judges our actions post death>old idea, Europeans knew all about these ideasNow, pre Christian morality in Europe was all centered around reputation. That you got a good reputation in life and after death. Meaning if you did a sin and nobody knew about it, or would never be able to find out, a pagan would do that sin and a Christian not.
>>534405908It's true, who told you otherwise? Ancient Judeans were levantine people who followed the teachings of the Torah. Modern Jews are slav/turk mutts that follow the Talmud. Christianity predates Judaism as we know it by hundreds of years. The justification for the modern state of Israel is that the Jews of Europe are the direct descendants of the people in the bible, and that they are merely returning home to the land that was promised to them. This justification is a sham, and they do everything they can to obscure that fact. Even the "Hebrew" spoken there is a modern, semi-constructed language taught to people who mainly spoke Polish, Russian and Yiddish.
>>534406125as I said, the whole thread is about religion. you ARE achmed. I however, am not shanqueesa. this will never change.
>>534406147You can still find the corpse of the 12 apostles, nad trace their liemage from there.
>>534406147One of thebest sources of where the old testament stories actually came from... picrel. Just search Russell Gmirkin on YouTube.
>>534406158How did Christianity solve Euthyphro dilemma?
>>534405091Again you pagancucks prove that you are too stupid for any academic discussion with abstract thinking/debating ideas and thus brown and not White. Explain to me logically how I "Worships and praises niggers".
>>534406160LolAncient jews were the exact same as they are now
>>534406184What?! There is no independent evidence of any of them. 12?! That is a hilarious one, too. The gospel writers couldn't even agree on those guys' names. Don't get me started on Paul.
>>534406394Doubt it. Test the DNA of the 12 Apostles, and compare to them then.
>>534406250>Euthyphro dilemmaJob's book. You can be righteous and not be rewarded by God and nearly destroyed by Satan. There is no guarantee that if you follow God, you will not be subject to evil, on the contrary, you might be even more strongly oppressed by Satan. All of this is short-term. Long-term God will bless you. But you don't know when and you just have to endure. That is pure faith and pure goodness.
>>534406413There is a literally a corpse of them in a museum. All of them.
>>534406096>Nice to you to admit that you don't think Europe is special.Because it wasn't until it became Christian. The empires it had even paled in comparison to the ones that existed else where before it. >how Europe was going to become powerful no matter whatThis is a baseless claim that does nothing other then personal ego stroking. Look at it objectively. In what way was Rome better then the Akkadian empire? Mind you Akkadian empire existed before Roman empire as much as Christ's birth is from today. Yet it didnt do anything special in grand scheme of things.What are the bases of your claim that Europe was going to become powerful no matter what and that it wasnt just another empire that was going to fall eventually and be forgotten.
>>534406089Aaaand of course the ragingly stupid atheist animal had nothing. You act and think like a child, godless faggot.
>guys guys we're epic pagans we're not trannies/jeets/kikes pretending to be le based>reeee stop calling us trannies reeeeHahahaKys btw it's been 10 years of this fucking spam.
You can see the DNA of dinosaurs, but not the people barely 2000 years old? Lmao.
>>534406158You can read ancient Greek philosophy that discusses objective morality idiot, jews didn't invent the concept>They openly dedicated the slaughter of Christians in the circus to their pagan gods.Lol, no, those where criminals sentenced to death, a death sentence isn't a human sacrifice>Read Tertullian Kek imagine trusting a christgolem>Now, pre Christian morality in Europe was all centered around reputation.Idiot, lol, wtf, christians really are retarded
>>534406160>Ancient Judeans were levantine people who followed the teachings of the Torah.There is zero evidence of the Torah existing before the mid 270s BCE.
>>534406549Ghosts are real. Hell is real. God is real. None of them are Myth or concept. Real as in, physically REAL.
>>534406486>nothing>the guy that wrote most the Bible stating he is a jewLol
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>>534406549Aaand again this godless idiot don't answer any questions. Again. >HOW did these pagancucks find objective morality?1. What is your ethnicity?2. What is your religious position?3. Have you ever read and understood the Bible?4. How low is your IQ, real or your own estimate?
The madness and grave error of prelest is that the soul, swollen with counterfeit light, forgets its dust-born littleness before the living God, יהוה, the God of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, before whom even the righteous man stands as clay before the potter and dust beneath the throne, and his Rabbi, Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach; it mistakes the fever of its own corruption for holiness, struts beneath a self-fashioned halo, deaf to repentance, allergic to obedience, until the creature of ash and appetite is left crying in the ancient Judaic tongue of contrition, ‘Have mercy upon me, O God; against Thee have I sinned; wash me, and make me clean; for I am dust and ashes’ (Psalm 51:1–2, 4; Genesis 18:27), having dared to call its own vanity the voice of God, though the prophets had thundered otherwise: משה Moshe, שמואל Shmuel, נתן Natan, אליהו Eliyahu, אלישע Elisha, ישעיהו Yeshayahu, ירמיהו Yirmeyahu, יחזקאל Yechezqel, דניאל Daniyyel, הושע Hoshea, יואל Yoel, עמוס Amos, עבדיה Ovadyah, יונה Yonah, מיכה Mikhah, נחום Nachum, חבקוק Chavaqquq, צפניה Tzefanyah, חגי Chaggai, זכריה Zekharyah, and מלאכי Malakhi.Rachem alai, Elohei Yisrael;rachem alai, Adonai Tzevaot;ki afar ani va-efer,ki chatati lefanecha,ki ga’avati sheker,ki ori choshech,ki qoli lo qol nevu’ah,ella hevel pi ve-ruach to‘ah.>Have mercy on me, God of Israel;>have mercy on me, Lord of Hosts;>for I am dust and ashes,>for I have sinned before Thee,>for my pride is falsehood,>for my light is darkness,>for my voice is no voice of prophecy,>but the vapour of my mouth and a wandering spirit.Have mercy on me, a sinner, Ortholord (Luke 18:13).
>>534406608You can see them yourself you stupid shit. Anti-christ shitter like you are all garbage retard.
>>534406591>the guy that wrote most the Bible stating he is a jewDid he state that he got it from himself or God. For starters. You are a child. Why are ALL you atheist animals such morons?
>>534406624I rebutted every point you made, plato and aristotle both talk about objective morality, you are a uneducated moron, and that's why you are christian.>please tell me about yourself!!!right after you wrote out those questions in Norwegian, you are Norwegian right???
>>534406707Ghosts are real. Hell is real. God is real.None of them are concept. You will die and go to Hell you stupid anti-christ bitch.
>>534406452link?source on independent analysis?None.No independent, contemporary historical evidence. Have any government documents on anywhere they supposedly travelled and set up huge churches? Any mentions in from the many, many writers of the time? Any writings from their enemies. Any contemporary portraits or statues? etc. None.fictional characters
>>534406046>>534406630>Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, remember me;>etc. This is not Christianity.
>>534403855meanwhile in reality picrel
>>534405566>how would it be LOGICALLY impossible for such a God to do anything of what you mentioned?Thanks for agreeing that we sit on the back of an infinite turtle tower.
>>534406293>Explain to me logically how I "Worships and praises niggers".Because you don't hate them. That's enough. Most people here aren't capable of nuanced, non-binary thought. Either you hate black people with every fiber of your being, or you worship them like gods. They can't comprehend not having a problem with Africans, but wanting them to stay in Africa. The average IQ of this board seems to be slightly above room temperature these days.>>534406394Roman sources are heavily biased and shouldn't be taken entirely at face value. The Judeans wouldn't submit to Roman globohomo and the Romans despised them for it. Remember that almost none of these people ever visited Judea, and these "histories" were written to be party fictional proofs of Roman supremacy, to justify their conquest and occupation of the region. >>534406566Patently false. Linguistic analysis of the Torah shows that it was written of the course of hundreds of years, likely written by scribes after countless generations of oral tradition. If you speak Aramaic you can literally watch the language of the text evolve as you read the OT. The oldest copy of the Torah comes from that time, but it's basically impossible for it to have originated then.
>>534406734Here is a GPS location to Shrine of the Three Kings.https://maps.app.goo.gl/sS7gqAJt7FYz8swR6?g_st=ac
>>534406707>I rebutted every point you made, plato and aristotle both talk about objective morality,I asked HOW do they find objective morality, NOT what they talked about. Again, you are too stupid for any academic discourse, and that is symptomatic of you, low-IQ CQ morons. Not only are you too stupid, but you are also utterly ignorant. What a combo. Infantile, imbecilic ingoramuses trying to discuss philosophy and theology. Total trainwreck.Go back to /r/atheism and take the rest of you godless idiots with you, pic related.
>>534405113i hope the ethiopian negress lets you smell her cunny and then you die
>>534404495The only shit the British "empire" lol brought to the world is their stupid accent and gay ass fuckers. Please spare us. The Greeks and the Roman Empire made you to humans, basically!
>>534406413paul of islam?
>>534406747How sorrowful it is, how wretchedly small, when dust begins to prophesy to itself; when clay, still wet with sin, dares to speak as though heaven had bent down to enthrone its private delusions. Before Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, the soul caught in prelest must learn again to bow, to weep, to place its forehead in the ashes and confess: ‘Against Thee, Thee only, have I sinned; wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.’ For there is no grandeur in false illumination, no majesty in spiritual self-flattery, no sanctity in a heart that crowns its own conceit and calls the coronation God.Poor soul, poor blind and swollen thing; it thought itself chosen, when it was merely intoxicated; it thought itself luminous, when it was only inflamed; it thought itself prophetic, when it was only noisy with corruption. Hallelujah, Jah, Jah; mercy, Jah, Jah; break the false crown, wash the vainglorious heart, silence the lying splendour within me. Let the creature become contrite again; let the ash remember ash; let the sinner cease from theatrical light and cry, with the ancient grief of repentance: ‘Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.’(Psalm 51:2–4, 10; Genesis 18:27; Isaiah 64:6)
>>534406751There are 2.3 to 2.6 billion Christians in the world and your point is what? Why do you deranged atheist animnals and pedo-pagans routinely avoid any kind of hard data and only present your laughable, cherry-picked logical fallacy and childish anecdotal pseudo-evidence? Why do atheist apes and pagancucks smoke weed and side with globohomo Jews in their effort to destroy Europe, all the time? Pic. Pic. Atheists are:>Hard left>Want open borders in white nations>Degenerates>More likely to be homosexuals>Mentally weak>More likely to become addicts
>>534406974He agrees with you you retard
>>534406974What do you mean "you godhating atheists" I was agreeing with you.
>>534404977hmm i wonder how jews came to be moneylenders in christcuck countries>>534406425>Test the DNA of 12 non-existent mythical people, and compare to them then
>>534406839yamnaya morality mogs your canaanite virtue signaling slave cult to hell and back
>>534407036They exist as a corpse you fucking retard. They are not non-existence. You cunts are so fucking stupid.You fear the Truth, and I can see it.Lying shit.
>>534406803Ooops. very sorry. American I only read the first sentence. Thank you and God bless you. Again, so sorry.
>>534407094*) American brother.
>>534406431So god is not good, or moral. So you can't derive morality from him.>>534406456So to you special=Christian.>Look at it objectivelyI'm. Claim was that Europe would not be powerful without Christianity. I repeat myself. "Tribes conquering remnants of Rome, creating kingdoms. European geography makes sure lot of kingdoms which will fight one another, and conflict and high iq drives innovation. Which would have made Europe powerful no matter what."Christianity gives nothing special to a civilization. Africa has had christianity longer than Europe, where are their civilizational achievements? Is a mudhut with a cross made out of sticks special to you?
>>534406900>>534406630>>534406046You are fake.
>>534407036>moneylenders. how'd that happen? that's wild
>>534406787>Thanks for agreeing that we sit on the back of an infinite turtle tower.Your comment makes zero logical sense. You are too dim for basic logic.
>>534407133Lust says, ‘This desire is truth’; prelest says, ‘This excitement is God.’ Both are little tyrannies of the lower self, both gild the wound and call it splendour, both drag the soul downward while whispering that it is ascending.The soul quivering in prelest is spiritually lecherous: it wants the sweetness of divine things without obedience, the thrill of sanctity without repentance, the ecstasy of election without the humiliation of the cross. It pants after visions as the flesh pants after bodies; it undresses heaven in imagination and then calls its own fever ‘illumination’.Prelest is to the spirit what sexual lust is to the flesh: an intoxication that flatters appetite until corruption begins to feel like revelation. The lustful body mistakes heat for love, possession for union, and fever for destiny; so too the deluded soul mistakes inner agitation for grace, vanity for prophecy, and the twitching of its own passions for the voice of God.Poor deluded soul, poor fevered thing; it thought itself angelic, when it was merely aroused by its own image in the dark glass. Let it cry, then, with fear and grief: Hallelujah, Jah, Jah; mercy, Jah, Jah; Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, wash me; break the false crown; quench the unclean fire; create in me a clean heart, O God.(Psalm 51:1–4, 10; James 1:14–15; Matthew 5:28; Isaiah 64:6)
>muhammed is just fiction!>conquer an entire continentLmao. You cunts only know Power.
>>534407261Stop posting this literal faggot
>>534406707>you are Norwegian right???I am. Here:>>534273126>>534276119>>534276391>>534276701>>534277196OK, now you answer my numbered questions to you
>>534406147>>534406231Other good books/authorsOn the historicity of jesus by richard carrierNAILED by david fitzgeraldI haven't had the time to read adam green's book i'm sure that's a banger as wellbooks: proving christianity is a jewish anti-gentilic psyop and evil:Christopher Jon Bjreknes books. Specifically I can vouch rise above the gods who hate us, beware the world to come, and satanic secrets of jesus. Man's a genius
>>534407416You are a retard who can't even see a Ghost. Low-tier NPC standardize mutilated cattle.
>>534406941>pedo-pagansmeanwhile in reality picrel
>>534407020>>534407029That was a major mistake. I am so tired of all these atheist animals spamming /pol/ and their unbelievable stupid drivel, so I only read the very first sentence, a few words and didn't bother to read it to the end, and thus made a complete fool of myself :DThank you for the correction and blessings to both of you.
>>534407094>>534407543Don't worry bro, you're fine. I don't like them spamming either, so I get your frustration.
>>534407471And how did God explain His motivation for this in the Bible? Pedophilia is banned in the Bible and thus Christianity, unlike atheism, paganism, Islam etc. Same with rape, incest, lying, necrophilia etc etc. Immediately after the Judeo-Masonic French Revolution, homosexuality [sodomy], incest, bestiality etc got legalised. When the Freemasons and Jews took control, France was flooded with Judeo-Masonic sexual perverts, and degenerates, meanwhile Christian foundations, morals and influence were continually attacked and suppressed. Pics, Paris 1920s vibrant lesbian subculture blossomed, Le Monocle - Fat Claude and her Girlfriend at Le Monocle, ca. 1932 - Brassaï Le bal des Invertis au Magic-City, rue Cognac (The Magic-City drag ball, Rue Cognac), 1932 - Two Lesbian Jews from American living in Judeo-Masonic Paris (Gertrude Stein (right) and Alice B Toklas) etc.
>>534405692>picrel>literallywhoalso he's literally wearing a cross in that picantiracism came from christianity. gal 3:28, col 3:11leftists are secular christians
>>534407471antiracism came from galatians? kek you've never read galatians have you, be honest?
>>534407620Its supposed to be Thors hammer probably.
>>534407620Vladimir Minkov is an ethnic Russian in Israel. He is virtually the only person in Israel who publicly states Jews should side with Christians or at least be kind to Christians. Check his background.
>>534407616what the fuck is your shitskin ass rambling about? I literally posted a verse from your jewish handbook in which the supposed author of the first five books of the bible, moses (real name moshe) is kvetching at jews for not killing the innocent women and children goyim and not taking prepubertal virgins to rape them
>>534402595Pointless thread.All problems are Jewish in nature
>>534407710if he wanted to put on a thors hammer he would've put on the thors hammer that looks nothing like a cross. he's clearly wearing a cross in that pic
>>534403608>we ruled the worldkek, look at these goyim, they think they're in charge of something.
kek the mohammeds are upset tonight. did I miss something?
I WILL NOT WORSHIP THE RABBI AS MY GOD
>>534407620>literallywhoHighest Åsatru priest in Iceland, meaning he can read the Viking sagas and Håvamål as virtually his native tongue, unlike Scandinavians.>also he's literally wearing a cross in that picNo. That's Thor's hammer, faggot>>534407748More drivel from you.
>>534407620Anti racism came from Christianity?
>>534407839He quivers, and calls it grace; he trembles, and calls it prophecy; he writhes under the little lightning of his own corrupted imagination and mistakes the twitching of the worm for the movement of the Spirit.A man quivering with prelest is a sorry little spectacle: a trembling censer of his own vanity, shaking beneath the incense of counterfeit grace, mistaking every shudder of nerves, every spasm of pride, every moist little convulsion of self-importance for the descent of God. He stands there, fevered and theatrical, half-prophet and half-fledgling, panting after visions as though heaven were obliged to reward his inward hysteria; and all the while his soul, swollen and sweating beneath its false halo, whispers, ‘I am chosen,’ when the wiser angels would only say, ‘Poor thing; it has mistaken spiritual nausea for illumination.’Hallelujah, Jah, Jah; mercy, Jah, Jah; Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, break the false crown; wash the fevered heart; let the creature of dust cease shaking before its own idol and fall, at last, into true repentance.
https://www.icmc.net/>MISSION>The International Catholic Migration Commission (ICMC) protects and serves uprooted people, including refugees, asylum-seekers, internally displaced people, victims of human trafficking, and migrants — regardless of faith, race, ethnicity or nationality.>Resettlement to third countries allows vulnerable refugees to move away from dangerous situations and start rebuilding their lives. Other admission pathways such as humanitarian corridors achieve the same goal. ICMC advocates for more and better resettlement and complementary admission pathways. Our experts support UN agencies, governments and humanitarian organizations resettling refugees. We also work with civil society organizations engaged in community-based refugee sponsorship.christians saved urop!!!! was the last 60 years of atheism and paganism what messed the civilization.. lol, also they saved ethiopia, not the culture of their people, not to kill the foreigner asap, was the christians who did, christians who live apart from the Vatican and the rest of the ethiopians in closed communities, without having a damn influence on the rest of the country, because they haven't yet been able to own all the poor Ethiopians, something the Vatican would very much like to do. They're the ones saving the Ethiopians. What you have to read here... unbelievable..., yes they saved rwanda too...
>>534407800It seems to be a replica of this:http://viking.archeurope.com/religion/pagan-religion/mjollnir/wolf-cross/
>>534407936You mean americans, Benedictus was expelled for stopping the lavanda maffia, since second council Usa became a power in Vaticano.
>>534407124>So god is not good, or moral. So you can't derive morality from him.That's just retarded. If you are good only because God rewards you are you then good? I can see from you moronc statements that you haven't even bothered to read and understand the Bible, so why are you here commenting?
>>534407839>the rabbiallah? >ya rabbi
>>534407997Oy vey
>>534407124>So to you special=ChristianNo, thats missing the forest for the trees. It's what being Christian has achieved. It's not a coincidence that industrialization happened in Europe 1st. Human societies havent changed for millennia's not since invention of agriculture , until Christian Europe drastically changed the world. >European geography makes sure lot of kingdoms which will fight one another, and conflict and high iq drives innovation.China has had wars for thousands of years, its empire has fallen and risen so many times that they have dynasties that historians are unsure if they were real of folklore. Yet they didnt advance in any meaningful way. Africa as you put it is also fuck ass backwards precisely because there were too many wars and conflicts in those regions, mainly middle east. Ottomans even conquered and united several tribes and nations just like Romans did and still did fuck all. I dont get how you are ignoring the very obvious fact that Europe didnt do anything special or new until it became Christian and adopted Christian values.>war breeds innovationIf that was true Asia would be a spacefaring nation at this point. This is one of the dumbest takes I've seen in a while.
>>534407124>War breeds innovationIf that was true. The Balkans would be the most advance region of Europe... this take is stupidly ignorant
Say what you will about theology or the pope, but I think Catholicism is the closest thing White people will ever have to an ethnoreligion (even if it isn't ours exclusively). Catholically-inclined Whites (Irish, Italians, Polish) seem to have the concept of "all the people in my town who look like me and go to my church are my family and i will kill and die for them" drilled much deeper into their DNA than protestant-inclined Whites
>>534408043>uh oh :)
>>534408160Lmao
As lust drives the body towards a brief shuddering discharge and then leaves it emptied, ashamed, and cold, so prelest drives the spirit towards a counterfeit ecstasy, a convulsive little climax of self-belief, after which there remains only dryness, theatrical exhaustion, and the faint stench of vanity.How forlorn the thing is: the man trembles, flushes, pants after revelation, presses himself against the image he has made, and when the false sweetness breaks over him, he calls that ruin ‘God’. Yet no throne has descended, no angel has spoken, no sanctifying fire has touched the heart. There is only the body’s old lesson translated into the soul’s humiliation: appetite building its altar, friction pretending to be union, heat pretending to be love, release pretending to be peace.Prelest is the soul’s obscene consummation of itself: the inward fever rises, the imagination tightens around its chosen image, the will grows weak beneath its own excitation, and at last the poor deluded creature spends itself upon a phantom, mistaking the collapse of tension for grace.And when the fever passes, what remains? A creature of dust, sticky with inward pride, staring at the wreckage of its imagined sanctity; a soul that has lain with its own delusion and begotten only darkness. Then, if mercy has not wholly departed, the poor thing begins to weep: Hallelujah, Jah, Jah; mercy, Jah, Jah; Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, wash me; break the false crown; cleanse the filthy chamber of the heart; create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me.
>>534407994If God acts unmorally, which he does, allowing good man to be punished for no reason. In that case the religion can't be source of morality. Which has inspires atheism, because god himself breaks his own moral code.On another note, I'm starting to think you don't know what Euthyphro dilemma is. Which doesn't surprise me.
>>534408242What's that odd blue shape on your flag?
I am not going to do it, I am not going to worship Rabbi Yeshua as my god, just not getting on my knees, not begging for his forgiveness, just not doing it, that's all, hahahahahaha
>>534408242>allowing good man to be punished for no reason.I just gave you the reaso, fool. And you judge morality based on what? Where is YOUR moral platform faggot? Your ass? Your sinfull and lustful nature? YOU decide because you think YOU are god? Tell me. 1. What is your ethnicity?2. What is your religious position?3. What is your sexuality?
kek
>>534408299I have a feeling you and every other anti-christian on /pol/ are like this because you are deeply introverted/individualistic and the concept of not only participating in, but being beholden to, an indeterminately large network of normies makes your stomach turn, and all of the moral/theological/historical arguments (You) have are post-hoc rationalizations for this gut feeling
>>534408242>because god himself breaks his own moral code.And this is why this moron didn't answer my question whether or not he has bothered to read and understand the Bible.
>>534408374Did you get on your knees yesterday at church and beg the Jewish man to forgive your sins?
>>534408299>>534408458Presumption is the bride’s adultery before Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, the true Bridegroom: she takes the promise of mercy as though it were a licence for betrayal, steals the language of covenant while departing from its chastity, and goes down into the hired chamber of her own appetite, there to be ‘comforted’ by a stranger whose embrace is only judgement in disguise. This is the obscene theology of presumption: to make grace into a purse of silver, repentance into a postponed ornament, forgiveness into the coin paid after lustful fornication.And yet the soul belongs to the Bridegroom. Her consummation is in Him; her chamber is His covenant; her joy is to be received by Him in purity, trembling, and awe. When she lies with presumption, she does not become free; she becomes common. She does not taste mercy; she cheapens it. She does not ascend into love; she is handled by the lowest merchant of the passions and then returns, perfumed with excuses, to speak of grace as though grace were obliged to receive her theatrical treachery.How desolate the spectacle: the bride of Christ, adorned for union, selling her fidelity to the first flattering sin that whispers, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace.Let her fall at last in consummation before Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, crying, ‘Against Thee, Thee only, have I sinned; wash me throughly from mine iniquity; create in me a clean heart, O God.’ Let the false bedchamber be burned; let the adulterous presumption be cast out; let the bride remember that mercy is bridal fire, not permission, and that the Bridegroom who consummates also judges.Hallelujah, Jah, Jah; mercy, Jah, Jah;Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, cleanse the faithless bride;break the hired bed of presumption;wash the garment stained by vanity;restore the soul to fear, repentance, and holy union.(Psalm 51:1–4, 10; Jeremiah 3:20; Ezekiel 16:15–17; Hosea 2:19–20; Matthew 25:1–13; Ephesians 5:25–27)
>>534408458did you make sure to call on "ya rabbi"?
>>534402595>"REEEEEEEEE IT'S EVERYONE EXCEPT THE MOHAMMEDANS!"You know how this ends, your squirming is futile.
>>534407988i meant what i wrote there, and i add europeans were starting to be philosophers not religion fanatics, then the romans invaded greece, they could invade to the west, but no, they went to greece..., the romans whose origins are 2 bros and 1 wolf....wtf... they appear suddenly in history, and invade greece xDDD just a casual event, then after they conquered enough, they suddenly force everyone to accept foreign beliefs that had nothing to do with european culture, and they do so for 2,000 years through bloodshed and violence, preaching love and peace, like the bolsheviks, who, in times of war and famine, promised peace and bread, and we all know what they actually brought. christians didn't save ethiopia; if anything, ethiopian culture allowed those christians to remain without vatican influence for almost 2,000 years. The same goes for south america. they are christians and speak spanish, but their culture and geography, the weakness of their states, and the fact that the elite was preoccupied with controlling the rest of the world, allowed them to live freely. but things change slowly, look at mexico: right now, it can dismantle the cartel without any problem; it has superior resources to the cartel, whereas before it had the same or fewer. christianity thrives on poverty and lack of education; when people acquire both, they disappear.
>>534403481You guys have the lowest income if any religion in America
>>534408458No, I'm not a christian. I mostly described myself in my last reply. But the west objectively peaked when it was christian, and neither secular materialism nor neopaganism offer the psychological technology required for Whites to start behaving like a coherent group again. The Whites who, today, will birth the majority of White babies, make the most money for those children, and vote for the most pro-White politicians, will be the devout christian ones. And if, in the 22nd century, we substantially recover culturally and demographically, those future Whites will look back on the secular right with befuddlement
>>534408062>It's not a coincidence that industrialization happened in Europe 1st.Okay, tell me how Christianity caused it.>Yet they didnt advance in any meaningful way.They did. They were great and advanced civilization. Not sure what you mean meaningful way though. You're just moving the goalpost, because you know you have to admit unchristian societies have been great civilizations. So now you add arbitrary term meaningful.Though unlike Europe, the geography does not create state of constant warfare, like in Europe. In most other countries they have unstability, then long term peace. Europe used to be constantly fighting wars.>Africa as you put it is also fuck ass backwards precisely because there were too many wars and conflicts in those regions, mainly middle east. You think middle east and Africa are the same. Africa doesn't advance, because they're niggers.>Ottomans even conquered and united several tribes and nations just like Romans did and still did fuck all.You can google ottoman inventions. Are you saying that just because turks took you over? I would not say Russia didn't invent stuff, even when we've had many wars through the history.>>534408129>The Balkans would be the most advance region of EuropeBecause you were battle ground for other nations?
>>534408228>>534408228>>534407900Again, you are a fake. Tell me more about your: >bridal fireand>Rabbi Yeshua ha-MashiachWhen Rabbi is solely a post-Jesus Christ and Talmudic Judaism term.
>>534408599I'm not a christian because there is no reason to believe the claims of jewish rabbis are true
>>534408661You can see a ghost, and know that, one day, that will be you.
>>534408661Okay. You also reject any possibility of being a part of a coherent, healthy, fertile, wealthy community of White people, because any community that meets all of those criteria will be Christian (realistically Catholic or Orthodox)
>>534408696ghosts are not real and neither are the claims of the rabbi you worship
>>534408738Ghosts are real, and you can see them. I already told you a way to do so.
>>534407994>If you are good only because God rewards you are you then good?No, your just opportunistic. Which means you'll bend either way depending on the opportunity. Take you for example Levi, you are the biggest anti christ on this board. You always take the opportunity to be egotistical in spite of your supposed faith.
>>534408258Battle standard of old king of denmark, taken because our country wanted to look western as possible.>>534408335You first. Where god gets his morality?
>>534408750They're real but only in Japan
>>534408764Why would that strange plus sign looking thing be associated with the west?
>>534408779It's universal. Tuning your brain to 0hz frequency will allow you to tap into the realm of the death.
>>534408335Hey Levi, send us the 4plebs link showing your brown hand and foreskin again
>>534408751>>If you are good only because God rewards you are you then good?>No, your just opportunistic. Which means you'll bend either way depending on the opportunity.>Take you for example Levi, you are the biggest anti christ on this board. You always take the opportunity to be egotistical in spite of your supposed faith.
>>534408821No they're only real in Japan.
>>534408640>When Rabbi is solely a post-Jesus Christ and Talmudic Judaism term.There is no shame in proudly naming Him Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, the Saviour, Messiah, Teacher and Anointed One, the Bridegroom of the Bride, the Word before whom every counterfeit splendour collapses into ash. The shame belongs elsewhere: in the sinful soul that blushes before the name of its Creator, that grows timid before the sound of holiness, that treats the name of its own Deliverer as something too strange, too Judaic, too ancient, too severe for the softened mouth of modern piety.What a mournful inversion: the creature is bold in sin, fluent in vanity, shameless in presumption, yet suddenly delicate before the name by which mercy entered history. The soul can utter its appetites without trembling; it can speak the language of rebellion with ease; yet when called to confess Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, it hesitates, shrinks, and discovers in itself a cowardice more revealing than any doctrine?Let the soul be ashamed of sin, of vainglory, of presumption, of prelest, of the filthy little theatre by which it crowns its own passions. Let the soul blush before judgement. Let the soul tremble before the Bridegroom it has wronged.But let there be no shame in His name. Let the tongue speak it plainly, reverently, and with contrition: Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, have mercy upon me; Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, wash me; Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, do not let my sinful mouth grow proud enough to be embarrassed by its Creator.
>>534407416Authors:DM MurdockRobert M PriceKenneth HumphreysRussell Gmirkinsearching for interviews on YouTube eith those people will give anyone an intense crash course.Youtube channelsJesus Never Existdthese you need to pick throughGnostic InformantHistory ValleyMythvision
>>534404501Damn you broke the norwegian christkike
>>534408866You are an idiot.
>>534408855>does t have any argument Thanks for proving my point Levi
>>534408897Bigfoot is real too, but only in America.
>>534408640>>534408873> Matthew 26:25 ‘Then Judas, who would betray him, answered, ‘Is it I, Rabbi?’ He said to him, ‘You said it.’’> Matthew 26:49 ‘Immediately he came to Jesus, and said, ‘Hail, Rabbi!’ and kissed him.’> Mark 9:5 ‘Peter answered Jesus, ‘Rabbi, it is good for us to be here. Let’s make three tents: one for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.’’> Mark 10:51, using Rabboni ‘Jesus asked him, ‘What do you want me to do for you?’ The blind man said to him, ‘Rabboni, that I may see again.’’> Mark 11:21 ‘Peter, remembering, said to him, ‘Rabbi, look! The fig tree which you cursed has withered away.’’> Mark 14:45 ‘When he had come, immediately he came to him, and said, ‘Rabbi! Rabbi!’ and kissed him.’> John 1:38 ‘Jesus turned and saw them following, and said to them, ‘What are you looking for?’ They said to him, ‘Rabbi’, which is to say, being interpreted, ‘Teacher’, ‘where are you staying?’’> John 1:49 ‘Nathanael answered him, ‘Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are King of Israel!’’> John 3:2 ‘The same came to him by night, and said to him, ‘Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do, unless God is with him.’’> John 4:31 ‘In the meanwhile, the disciples urged him, saying, ‘Rabbi, eat.’’> John 6:25 ‘When they found him on the other side of the sea, they asked him, ‘Rabbi, when did you come here?’’> John 9:2 ‘His disciples asked him, ‘Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?’’> John 11:8 ‘The disciples said to him, ‘Rabbi, the Jews were just trying to stone you. Are you going there again?’’> John 20:16, using Rabboni ‘Jesus said to her, ‘Mary.’ She turned and said to him, ‘Rabboni!’ which is to say, ‘Teacher!’’
>>534408708>You also reject any possibility of being a part of a coherent, healthy, fertile, wealthy community of White people75% of the Christians in the world are brown or niggers from Africa. You are going to go to heaven and spend eternity there with billions of niggers. That's what you believe btw.
>>534408921Simptons of a whiteout in extreme cold atmosophere can make you see them. That's natural in Antarctica.
>>534408990100% of islam is jeets and niggers
>>534408802Christian history, and other nordic countries had one. Reason in finland had little religious motivation. That flag was liked because it was banner of victory, a fabrication most likely. Because europeans had no interest in the savior. European tribes respected strength and victory.
>>534409023They're both the same Abrahamic rabbi cult.
>>534408938Fuck youYour a kike for not believing in Rabbi Yeshua bar Josef- the King of the Jews - and that the Jews are G-ds Chosen people!
>>534408990Going to a catholic parish in rural Wisconsin doesn't teleport you to the congo you dumb motherfucker
>>534409043so why didn't you go after islam for being 100% jeet and nigger? curious, no?
>>534403608Levi, nooo! Also, maypoles are erected already, did you find out what they represent?
>>534409084Yeah, you end up basically in Mexico.
>>534408764>You first. Where god gets his morality?God is the principium primum of all matter, life, energy in the known universe and morality, not bound by the known universe. However, God knows about moral laws outside himself, that he is bound by, due to the nature of morality, meaning God knows and follows that a holy God can not be unholy. Can not lie, break promises etc. So these laws are seemingly outside of God, or they are discovered or created by God. Either way, God is bound by them.
>>534409111From himself? So how do we know god is moral?
>>534409111So you believe in Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach - the King of the Jews?
>>534409111>God knows about moral laws outside himselfWhich then means we can seek morality outside of God then. This statement of yours also shows that your supposed God isn't ontological for morality. Makes sense because your God flip flops a lot
Any opinions on Calvinists? Everyone here talks about Christianity without going into specifics.
>>534408845You mean the guy that you Jews spamming /pol/ found on fiverr to upload his brown dick pick with a Norwegian VPN so you pathetic Jews and pagans not only can lie that I am Levi Jensen, but you can also mudsling and say that the guy is me? Do you have any idea how transparent and childish you Jews and pagans are and how dishonest and stupid you look when you are doing that?
>>534409252Kek the excuse you gave last time was that the lighting wasn't right which made your hand "look brown"You are such a prolific liar it's amazing
>>534409252Sorry, I didn't get that -Do you, or do you not belive in Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach - the King of the Jews?
>>534408938lol, the totally fucked up pagancuck moron lost his cool and are no longer in character. Why do you falsely portray yourself as a Christian pedo-pagan? How sick do you have to be in your head to do something like that? As a typical deranged pedo-pagancuck you are too stupid to discriminate between the Hebrew word rabbi, just meaning teacher or spiritual/philosophical leader and the later term, after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as a organizational and spiritual leader in Talmudic Judaism, a de facto protected/reserved title
>>534409517>Why do you falsely portray yourself as a ChristianWhy do you?Here's the 4plebs of your real skin color https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/441430610/#q441438742
>>534409361You mean God and King of Kings. What is your problem? Are you even White, memeflag??
>>534409517Why did the Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach - the King of the Jews - use and have people use hebrew words to describe himself?
>>534409579>Are you even White, memeflag??You aren't
>>534402595The rise and fall of Europe is the rise and fall of Christianity. Things have gotten bleaker as the west has de christianized. Not to mention, most white peoples were not forced to convert, they adopted the religion out of noticing it was a better system than what they have.Gaytheists and pagans need to fuck off.
>>534409361>>534409111>>534409205>>534409053>>534409517Anon does not read beyond the first line in his own screenshot, starting at the beginning of the history, rather than refuting it.‘Rabbi’ as a later formal rabbinic title belongs to the Mishnah and Talmudic world, but ‘Rabbi’ as an honourific form of address is placed on the lips of Jesus’ own disciples and interlocutors in the New Testament. Jesus is directly addressed as Rabbi in Matthew, Mark, and John; John 1:38 even glosses it as ‘Teacher’. Therefore ‘Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach’ is neither fraudulent nor anachronistic in the sense alleged. It is simply a Hebraic way of saying ‘Rabbi Jesus the Messiah’, grounded in the Gospel language itself.Prelest, once enthroned, leads the soul from self-flattering illusion into madness; the creature first mistakes its own fever for revelation, then its own rebellion for holiness, until at last it begins to mutter anti-Christ delusions from beneath the broken crown of its own spiritual vanity.
>>534409580Jesus said he was a rabbi and king of the jews?
>>534409663Yes
>>534403608>>534403706>>534403855>>534403892>>534404232pretending to be a christian norwegian60 posts by this idwhen everyone is at work in scandinavia
>>534409561>>534409613Why do you pagans lie like Jews. How come you also are pathological liars.Give me your best evidence for your retarded and psycho-infantile claims regarding Levi Jensen and your beloved brown dick-pics. Do it faggot brown pedo-pagan. Your very best argument, research, and reasoning. Make me laugh. >>534409580Where did Jesus ever say in the Bible that he is the King of Jews, Jewish memeflag?.
>>534409111god has no morality, you have the god's morality, and feel all the laws, why? or what that means?we are sons of god, we are not like god and god is not like you, but we all belong to him, thats why every body on this earth feels bad if sees injustice, feels bad if someone stole his belongings, feels bad if watches a innocent suffering, feels anger when being lied and betrayed.... that's the god's morality, but god is not a spirit, or a old guy talking to chosen ones, or energy, god is everything we know its truth and fair, and satan is the lies and the unfair, the first makes you live in heaven and the second makes you live in hell, the religions just exploit that inner connection we can feel but we can't understand as we are flooded with propaganda and they erased the true history to control the humankind, don't get violent, you all know violence is shit, but they teach we must protest on the streets and fight wars, but the only war is the truth vs their lies, and that is not a war of violence, they use violence, ask pic related...
>>534409745neat. where?
>"christian">chantardChoose one
>>534409648>>534407261>>534407900>>534408228>>534408474Aaaand the slimy moron has completely broken character and no longer even pretends that he is a Christian. PatheticPic (You)
>>534409777>How come you also are pathological liars.You're projecting hard We can settle this right now. Simple post your hand with date, time and thread ID >>534409777>Where did Jesus ever say in the Bible that he is the King of JewsWhen asked by Pontius Pilate, "Are you the king of the Jews?", Jesus replied, "You say so" (or "It is as you say"), a phrase often interpreted as affirmation.Jesus clarified to Pilate that his kingdom is "not of this world," indicating a spiritual rather than political role.Which means he's their spiritual king
>>534409772Translate and elaborate on what is highlighted in yellow. "Fellow White Swedish nationalist. "
>>534409837Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, break my prelest before it becomes my throne; dash my false ambitions against the stone of Thy judgement, and let no crown remain upon me that Thy hand has not placed there.I am nothing that is not borrowed from Thee: no breath, no thought, no strength, no light, no virtue, no name; all that I have called ‘mine’ is theft unless returned in trembling gratitude to its Master.Against Thee only have I sinned; tear from me the fever of false election, the vanity that mistakes itself for revelation, the inward theatre that calls its own noise prophecy; make me poor in spirit, clean of heart, and obedient before Thy face.Rabbi Yeshua, break me clean;Rabbi Yeshua, wash me true;Jah, Jah, mercy; Jah, Jah, fire;dash my crown, consume my pride.Nothing is mine, nothing is mine;breath is borrowed, light is Thine;Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach,tear the lie from my heart.Hallelujah, Jah, Jah; mercy, Jah, Jah;false ambition, fall to dust;prelest perish, pride be slain;let the creature kneel again.
>>534409648>>534409575>>534408938>>534408873>>534408873Why do you pretend to be a Christian faggot. Why are lies and deceit so natural for you pagancuck homo?
>>534409786In the bible Matthew 23:8-12 - Jesus explains to his disciples that they are not to be called Rabbi for they have one Rabbi, it's JesusAs for the King of Jews, see>>534409869>When asked by Pontius Pilate, "Are you the king of the Jews?", Jesus replied, "You say so" (or "It is as you say"), a phrase often interpreted as affirmation.>Jesus clarified to Pilate that his kingdom is "not of this world," indicating a spiritual rather than political role.>Which means he's their spiritual king
>>534409950>Why do you pretend to be a Christian faggotWhy do you?
>>534409869you mean this? picrel
>>534409098>>534409561>>534409772>>534409787Team Tel Aviv is here with their usual rabid and pathetic anti-Christian spam. Why is it that you Jews have the very same demonic rage and hatred for Jesus Christ, pic, as the raging pedo-pagancuck homosexuals?Painting: A Rabbi by Vasily Vereshchagin (1842-1904)
>>534409982jesus' affirmation in the bible is and always has been "I Am".
>>534410016>Contemporary English Version
>>534410062That's nice Levi but can you post your hand with date, time and thread ID?
>>534409094we're talking about rabbi yeshua not goat fuck mohammad>>534409084going to heaven will teleport you to a place with billions of niggers, your fellow followers of rabbi yeshua, and you will spend eternity together
>>534409982>spiritual king anything else?
>>534410140Dying will teleport you to 0hz frequency. You can see what it like before you get there while you are alive.
>>53440951790% of the bible is read by jews today and is all about jewsthe other 10% is about a jew claiming to fulfil the jew jew from the other 90% to prove he's the most magical jew of them all
>>534410096the other versions are all different ways of saying..."so you say".
>>534410198The Truth will remain Absolute no matter who say it.
>>534410069Seehttps://biblehub.com/text/luke/23-3.htm>>534410161What does the Greek say?>>534410209Yup. Nothing changes about what I said.
>>534410231there's 0 reason to believe its the truth
>>534410264In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>>534410248I mean you tried, I can honestly respect that.
>>534410274maybe, but there's no reason to believe it's the rabbi
>>534410280Tried what?
>>534410306The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
>>534409165Your post makes zero logical sense. How can God's morality logically not be moral, judged by God's own moral platform. What you stupid Jew or brown immigrant is kvetching about is that you don't accept God's morality, that you have your own personal morality judging God by. And you are too stupid to see that you have zero logical, moral or philosophical foundation to do so, and that you just take it right out of your stinky and hairy Jewish ass and present it as "objective morality" based solely on your infantile and sinful immoral feelings.Pic: The text reads, "Without Solving the Jewish Question No Salvation for Mankind"Germany 1936
>>534410363Keep your rabbi jew jew to yourself
>>534410371>judged by God's own moral platformA platform you said is outside God. Which means morality is also outside your God.
>>534410411Latest chapter of the Bible.>And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.>I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
>>534410371Is circumcision objectively wrong?
>>534410440I'm not worshipping your jewish cult
>>534408639>Okay, tell me how Christianity caused it.Study sociology and history. It's too complex of a topic for this back and forth. I can give you a very simplified explanation but that wont do it justice.TLDR: societies used to (and some still do) move as things "are" (as you can currently see them being) rather then how they "can" be. aka the Might makes right, the if you can its your right. That view shaped societies into set standard and thus nothing changed since agriculture. People saw it as "if you have power its your divine right" thats why through out history kings and emperors were treated as divine being. Because it was seen that the chance to be born royal could not have been a accident. It wasn't until Christianity introduced a radical thought into the public zeitgeist and that is that "every man is equal in front of God". Even Christian's had the problem of imidietlly dropping the narrative of Royal = divine, thats why the Pope would "crown" the kings and emperors as a proxy Gods blessing. Second thing Christianity introduced is that every life is inherently divine aka valuable. With that it introduced the idea that everyone should be taken care off in a society, that its our divine duty to make the world a better place and reduce suffering. Third thing is science, that Christian scholars have a duty of understanding the "truth", that there is only one objective truth and that its our duty to find it. All these things combined are what led to modernizations of the world. This is a WAAAYYY over simplified tldr so use it more of a pointer on what to explore in your readings rather then a argument, because to back it up as a argument I would need to write a thesis...
>>534410458no. but it's a muslim and jewish practice.
Nick called stoics reddit recently. How is Christianity not reddit though?If I SCd Nick with arguments to the contrary the response undoubtedly be ban/threadlock essentially.Christianity feels much more reddit.
>>534409894Varför du frågar folk på internet att läsa en text som kan direkt läsas av AI medan folk är på jobbet, din kristna neger?yxikacksi kålme du vill säkerligen ha min dolme, sut mitt pikk negerjävel.tjenare du, sådann kuksugare, vi har aldrig någonsin tänkt tanken på att vara kisten.och vi tänker heller inte på det, varken innan 1000-talet eller innan 1600-talet.sedan trodde du nog att det här är en svår text att läsa, prova det här istället som krävs lite kunskap.gode Biskoper Bändicter: slikr var aldrig til godgärninge, hvarti fyr eller sidan:Hvar sum han for um sit Biskopsdöme oc sag nokot af-fat (olagat), thess Gudi skuldi med tiene,ta halp han med sinum penningum mannilika oc ärlika: han lät ock Broer giöre:Han lät giöre Brone i Osæ, adre i Offrud, tridiu i Travädi, fierdi Biörnabro oc femti Ullervis-bro.Han lät broa två rastir (morast:) af Tividi oc ena rast af Vätursvidi oc en i Hökesås-skog.Skaffa ett jobb.
>>534410498Why not a Christian one?
>>534410371Actually, I misread the post I was replying. You said morality is outside of god. So anyone can look for morality outside of god.>How can God's morality logically not be moral, judged by God's own moral platform.So how can I logically be immoral, judged by my own moral platform?
>>534410481Feel free to see your spoiler of an Ending in the realm of 0hz frequency.>For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:>And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
>>534410542because it's a jewish/muslim practice and isn't commanded. why would it be?
>>534409230You are too stupid and ignorant for this. Sorry>>534409325>Kek the excuse you gave last time was that the lighting wasn't right which made your hand "look brown"More pathetic lies and endless wasting of time. Show me link from archive and explain how you idiot "know" it is me, if not you are lying about that post as well>>534409648>Anon does not read beyond the first line in his own screenshot, starting at the beginning of the history, rather than refuting it.>‘Rabbi’ as a later formal rabbinic title belongs to the Mishnah and Talmudic world, but ‘Rabbi’ as an honourific form of address is placed on the lips of Jesus’ own disciples and interlocutors in the New Testament. Jesus is directly addressed as RabbiYes as I already stated, two diffent and seperate things and when you say Rabbi, capital R, then you mean the latter and no Christian denomination have ever used the Hebrew term rabbi, when the New Testament was written in Greek. You are a liar and a deceiver. Pathetic. Are you a Jewish or a white Jewish/atheist dishonest traitor?
>>534409663Do you think they let non-rabbis preach in jewish temples?
>>534409779>ask pic related...You obviously have the fake NPC version of Bruno from Judeo-Masonic pop culture. Go to primary sources, fool.
>>534408639>They did. They were great and advanced civilization.No they didnt. as I said Akkadian Empire existed 2000 years before the Roman empire and Roman empire did nothing new that the Akkadian didnt already. Neither of them left a significant change to the world as Christianity did. >You think middle east and Africa are the sameBeing that middle east is in Africe... yes.>You can google ottoman inventions.and what of them? What have those inventions done to the change the world? China has discovered paper so long ago that historians are unsure when they started using it, has China changed the world in any significant way as Christian Europe has?You are grossly underestimating how much industrialization is a unique even for the world. And that every single society in the world had better odd's then Europe to begin it, but they didnt. That it only happend under Christain Europe, you have to ask your self why.
>>534410586>because it's a jewish/muslim practiceWhy was Jesus circumcised then?>and isn't commanded.It was in the OT>>534410611>You are too stupid and ignorant for this. SorryLevi you're making up excuses to avoid acknowledging your contradiction >>534410611>More pathetic lies and endless wasting of timeIt isn't see>It's the lighting in the bathroom that's low you braindead retards. Also I am tanned.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/441430610/#q441438742
>>534410633they all did. jewish temples were meeting places also, not just places of worship, achmed. if you were looking to preach to the jews where did you think you would go? kek a church?
>>534410062accusing others of being team tel-aviv while he pretend to be christian in the least christian country in the world.the only ones that delusional christian spamm is catering to is the connection between the US, Ukraine and Israel.It makes absolutely no sense to try and pretend like we are christians in Scandinavia, you wont find a single church with people in it.Try and find a better time of day to pretend to be a christian Scandinavian rather than when everyone is working.
>>534410198>90% of the bible is read by jews today and is all about jewsNo, over 60% of Rabbis are Kabbalists, the rest are Talmudic. Most Jews are atheists. They all have a burning and demonic hatred for Christianity, while they love and push your retarded and dysfunctional atheism and paganism.
>>534410416Again, you are too stupid for this. How low is your IQ?
>>534410719you mean his mother who lived under jewish law? >ot again, jewish and muslim law. very simple.
>>534410734>jewish temples were meeting placesFor jews lol
>>534410794and where did jesus go to find the sick and wicked, achmed? well done lad.
>>534410524Aaaand the faggot can't translate a basic Scandinavian text.
>>534410785You're making excuses to avoid your contradiction >>534410788>you mean his mother who lived under jewish law?Why would she live under jewish law? Because she was a jew?>ot>again, jewish and muslim law. very simpleIt has nothing to do with Christianity then? The Prophets who foretold Jesus, the moral law? Nothing to do with Christianity huh?
>>534410559Because you are not God and does not have the necessary understanding of human nature, laws of the universe etc to create or set to words morality.
>>534410823In and outside jewish temples lol
>>534410753> No, over 60% of Rabbis are Kabbalists, the rest are Talmudic. Most Jews are atheists.you clearly arent familiar with theology and archaelogy.most arabs, christians and jews dont even know their own history or their own religions.theyre only expressing it because theyre told to express it, not out of authentic interst or belief.All countries where christianity was forced upon them, all of them behaved in the same fashion.Christianity was seen as a cult of mystics and few people were literate until the rise of banking in the 16th centuryyou dont know christians, you dont know muslims, you dont know jews and you dont know Scandinavian history.
>>534410825It's not a difficult text, so i made fun of you in the process of mixing similar words with various different nordic languages simultaneously.then i asked you to translate a text from before the 17th century and you cant translate it.
>>534410753Yeah, lol.
>>534410488So you mean enlightenment? Which was abandonment of Christianity, or to be more accurate, God, and the crown. Of course Christianity lives still in Europe, in bastardized froms like humanism and myth of progress. By that standard, communism is the end goal of meaningful advancement. Lot if it hinges on abandonment or secularizing christianity.>Third thing is science, that Christian scholars have a duty of understanding the "truth", that there is only one objective truth and that its our duty to find it. All these things combined are what led to modernizations of the world.This is only part worth anything in your post. Its accurate, monasteries created huge learned class who advanced science.
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>>534410570>But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.>And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
>>534410719Your fake guy is married and I am engagedhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/479936992/#479974305Sucks to be you Jew, or pedo-pagan. Unable to discriminate between you two. Pic. This is what they hate and fear.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXpOvSv37Kk
>>534410868nothing to do with christianity. good. jewish law. temple worship was patrilineal. matrilineal rabbinic judaism was created in the middle ages in europe. who did jesus claim was his father? and who are the lineages in matthew comprised of? you're doing good
O holy servants of God, prophets, apostles, martyrs, elders, confessors, and all righteous ones who stood trembling before the face of the Most High, intercede for me, a soul darkened by vanity and endangered by prelest. Pray that Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, the true Bridegroom and living Word, should break the false brightness within me before I begin to love it; pray that He should tear down every inward theatre where my pride impersonates revelation, and cast into dust every private crown which His hand did not bestow.For prelest is a dreadful captivity: the soul becomes intoxicated by its own reflection, calls fever ‘grace’, calls excitement ‘prophecy’, calls presumption ‘faith’, and walks smiling towards madness while believing itself illuminated. Save me from this ruin. Save me from the sweetness of false election, from the demon of spiritual vanity, from the secret pleasure of being thought chosen, deep, persecuted, prophetic, or holy. Let every flattering apparition be rebuked; let every counterfeit light be extinguished; let every anti-Christ delusion be broken before it grows teeth in the heart.O saints of God, plead for me before the throne. Ask that I may receive tears instead of visions, obedience instead of splendour, repentance instead of exaltation, and a clean heart instead of a noisy imagination. Let me remember that I am nothing that is not borrowed from Him: no breath, no thought, no strength, no virtue, no light, no name. Let me be emptied of the grand lie of myself and restored to the poverty that can receive mercy.Rabbi Yeshua ha-Mashiach, through the prayers of Thy holy ones, save me from prelest. Break my false crown. Dash my ambitions. Wash my inward eyes. Make me small before Thee, truthful before heaven, and contrite before judgement. Hallelujah, Jah, Jah; mercy, Jah, Jah; let the false prophet within me fall silent, and let the soul return, barefoot and weeping, to its Bridegroom.
>>534410887very good
>>534410700Cannons, first meaningfully used by ottomans, caused the death of knightly class. Paving the way to citizen armies. Which opened the gates to nation states etc. There's that.>You are grossly underestimating how much industrialization is a unique even for the worldThat was caused largely by the black death. As population decreased, people began to utilize machinery more.
>>534411016>and I am engagedYou aren't >>534411023>nothing to do with christianityWhat is?
>>534410985They know it in their soul, that their time is short. That's why they seethe and cry about Christ with so much passion. Making anti-christ thread all days, every day, thinking it can change their Fate.No rest for the wicked.>But the wicked are like the tossing sea, which cannot rest, whose waves cast up mire and mud. “There is no peace,” says my God, “for the wicked.https://youtu.be/Z4PhQoMShWM?si=FQ13aMSmyK9PKKD4
>>534411127circumcision. you feeling ok?
>>534411156If that where true then Paul wouldn't have to clarify the change from physical circumcision to metaphorical.So I'll ask my original question you lot desperately avoid. Is circumcision objectively wrong?
>>534410884>Because you are not GodWhy are we giving him special treatment? Either morality is outside of him, and I can figure it out without him. Or god is the morality, and I have to ask why his subjective morality is moral. How he knows he is moral?
>>534410985they lure you with this, and then... put the other cheek, wait for god and a miracle in form of magic justice, let they abuse you, when they die they will get punished...mfg... what happened? xDD where is the logic? the fkn truth!!! the word of god there.... god contradicts itself????
Listen, liberals are not the problem, Antifa is not the problem, Jews are not the problem but fucking CHRISTCÛCKS ARE!! THEY are the one that oppressed you for 2000 years, made the fucking shitty cucked "civilization" in Europe where most of us today would have been fucking hanged for being witches, warlocks, degenerates, sexual minority or just fucking around taking what rightfully belongs to us as private property is theft! At least that is what I tink!!FIRST we must deal with christcuckery, making sure we have our hard earn fucking FREEDOM that we got from the French Revolution with human rights, sexual freedom, freedom to do drugs and whatever the hell WE want! democracy etc THEN we can fucking deal with other stuff! Fucking learn somethind and watch Adam Green, Lucas Gage, Devon Stack and Blonde (Rebecca Hargraves) showing us that christucks are the main fucking enemy and THEY are the reason why everything is fucking falling apart in the west and the ONLY solution is for us all to become PAGAN or ATHEISTS defeating white christcucks no matter how racerealist or nationalist as THEY are the fucking ENEMY with their intolerance and opposing modern Europe and freedom to do whatever the fuck we want! AFTER that we can deal with da joooz or whatever the fuck ever!!>FIGHT 4 UR R8 2 FUCK!!FIGHT 4 UR R8 2 FUCK!!>FIGHT 4 UR R8 2 FUCK!!FIGHT 4 UR R8 2 FUCK!!>FIGHT 4 UR R8 2 FUCK!!FIGHT 4 UR R8 2 FUCK!!Join us at CQ radio, now https://x.com/CQPirateRadio !!Lucas Gage fucking BTFO Jay Dyer so he must MUTE and BAN Lucas Gage!!https://x.com/Jay_D007/status/2020927401362948324Pic, and YES we translate the bye-bull the fucking way WE want to translate it!!
>>534411296Because of the HATRED and INTOLERANCE and fucking OPPRESSION you CHRISTCÛCKS have against the sexual minority community, not only now, but for FUCKING 2000 YEARS!! Every White person fighing for FREEDOM, JUSTICE and US WHITES, this is how you do it: By joining us and fucking FIGHT against BIGOTRY, INTOLERANCE and PREJUDICE from the FUCKING CHRISTCÛCKS!! If their "god" is good then why the fuck does he hate the sexual minority community and the way we do it and so fucking hard that the christcucks and their hatred of us have made it so we have internalized and WE fucking feel disgusted and sick and depressed with OUR OWN fucking sexuality so we feel in UNNATURAL to cum hard in another man's anus ONLY, as my therapist finally told me, because FUCKING christcucks have spread their fucking hatred for our sexuality FOR FUCKING 2000 YEARS!!! So WE and ANYONE ELSE have FUCKING INTERNALIZED THIS HATRED!! And it is even fucking WORSE for those into zoophilia, a fuckin NATURAL way of expressing sexuality and found in ALL cultures at fucking ALL the time! When we were pagans in Rome we had fucking FREEDOM to do what the FUCK we wanted to do!! In paganism if you want to do drugs, you do drugs, if you want to watch porn and masturbate, you are free to do that as well, eat what the fuck you want and "gluttony" aka enjoying food is as fucking SIN in christcuckery. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
>>534411284Actions have consequences.
>>534411016>Pic. This is what they hate and fear.History of christianity prove that this is not what christianity lead to.christianity showed an entirely new phenomenon of christians wives cheating on their husbandsand the mysticism of "myling demons" in the form of christian children abandoned by christians mothers.The cuckolding pandemic between the 10th-12th century England,and the christian faith slowly died with the rise of literacy in the 16th century.Theres a reason that you dont see much christian symbolism in these paintings that youre collecting.Christianity was over romanticized, not everyone was entitled to the church gold.
>>534411223paul clarified that gentiles aren't under jewish (and later muslim) law. nothing new.
>>534411370Again, is circumcision objectively wrong?
>>534411362always :)
>>534411334Pagan Europe before christcuckery was fucking PARADISE where you could do whatever the FUCK you wanted!!
>>534411402according to christianity you can do what you want, but salvation ally, it doesn't mean anything, as I already showed you in the explanation. I'm not muslim or jewish, but I'm sure you already knew that.
>>534411411Latest chapter of Revelation make it pretty clear.>I will give to each person according to what they have done.
>>534411402I'm seriously worried about you. I already said "no...it's a jewish and muslim practice".
>>534411481>according to christianity you can do what you wantLike circumcision in the name of God?
>>534411544>"no...it's a jewish and muslim practice".Makes sense as Jesus was a jew
>>534411557it wouldn't be in the name of god, as I already showed you. christians aren't jews or muslims.
>>534411580you were just about to show me the mother/female-based lineages from the bible. you ready? I'm very excited
>>534411586>it wouldn't be in the name of godWhy? You just said>>534411481>according to christianity you can do what you want
>>534411660I showed you the explanation, remember? do you have a fever? I'm getting worried over here
>>534411633>you ready? I'm very excitedMe too>21 And when eight days were completed [a]for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.
>>534411694>I showed you the explanation, remember?Not really
>>534411718hey, that's not the lineages. think we can find em?
>>534411743of course I did. it's the picrel about 10 picrels back. feel free to peruse at your leisure. I know it's a little different than jewish muslim law, but it is what it is.
>>534411334zoophilia is what u like fkn perv...u always post that copy paste, there is no hate for things others do, its propaganda and contra propaganda, action and reaction, homosexuals are used as a weapon, as a distraction for key nations, there is no need to distract people who don't impact on the fiat money, we all got their system ruling by ignorance, if they can distract us, they will keep the status quo xDDD they can't allow awaken people as those dislike to be parasitized xDD in /biz/ they know well :)
>>534411633>you were just about to show me the mother/female-based lineages from the bible. you ready? I'm very excitedLuke (1:26-38), the angel Gabriel told Mary that she was highly favored by God>>534411772>hey, that's not the lineagesIt's jewish tradition
>>534410062I'm once again asking about the Maypole, Levi
>>534411818>of course I did.Not really So according to you Christians can do what they want, including circumcision for whatever reason. Be it for God or cleanliness
>>534411875>>you were just about to show me the mother/female-based lineages from the bible. you ready? I'm very excited>Luke (1:26-38), the angel Gabriel told Mary that she was highly favored by God
>>534411875wait a sec, that's still not the female-based lineages. think they're in there? I think we can find em if we try.
>>534411956>that's still not the female-based lineages.Whay does it matter when angels tell you your favored by God, kek
>>534411922>for god or cleanlinessor if you just wanted to. not in the name of god like jews and muslims. the explanation is pretty simple.
Christcucks can't do nothing about christcuckery's downfall. People have been tired of your lies and corruption for ages. Only people that are still gullible enough to listen to your jewish lies are brownoid shitskins and niggers
>>534412002so we can't find em is what you're saying? this is horrible. they gotta be there
>>534412009>or if you just wanted toHence why I said>>534411922>including circumcision for whatever reasonYou ok bro? I'm getting worried here
>>534412056>so we can't find em is what you're saying?I did find it.
>>534412036holy shit, no wonder they pretend to be scandinavian
>>534412073you can even do it if you just wanted to see the head of your peepee. but like the explanation says, still not a practice for god, as the jews and muslims do it for. I didn't write the explanation
>>534412155>still not a practice for godWhy did God change his mind from the OT to the NT?
>>534412100or is there a list of lineages that are father-based in matthew that proved your jewishness. who did jesus claim his father was? sorry bad memory
>>534412205he didn't. it was always a jewish (later muslim) law, starting with abrahams grandchildren. jesus sidenote: before abraham was born, i am.
>>534410965>So you mean enlightenment? Which was abandonment of Christianity, or to be more accurate, God, and the crown.Not at all. To oversimplify it again, Christianity is philosophy of Optimism not Nihilism as most enlightenment philosophy's are.>By that standard, communism is the end goal of meaningful advancement.It would be if it was feasible, but there is a reason Communists always were hostile towards Christianity. >This is only part worth anything in your post. Its accurate, monasteries created huge learned class who advanced science.So do you understand how objectively looking at all human history, how radical and drastic this change/action was? How Christianity's goal on educating the masses was never seen before in history of man kind?>Cannons, first meaningfully used by ottomans, caused the death of knightly classIt definitely played a part but wouldnt you say that breaking and disillusion of Monarchy's played a bigger part?>That was caused largely by the black death. As population decreased, people began to utilize machinery more. Again, turn to China. Through out it's history it had huge plagues and insane population drops, yet it did not industrialize.Again, you are not wrong when you say "That was caused largely by the black death." but it's still half the story
>>534412245>or is there a list of lineages that are father-based in matthewWhat about Luke 3:23–38>>534412313>he didn't. itHe did though. Or there won't be a new covenant
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>>534404177Poo boy go home
>>5344124071. that he was born? oh. I see. (?) I might be crazy (I'm worried now too) but I think the lineages are male based. maybe not...should we find the female based lineage list? I don't know man2. was always jewish (later muslim) law. muslims are jewish law enjoyers. paul just reiterated it. pretty simple.
>>534412621>but I thinkCareful, you may hurt yourself Think about how the OT gave legitimacy to Jesus and how you want to handeave it because it doesn't fit your narrative
>>534412621>female based lineage list?The primary female-based lineage in the Bible centers on the genealogy of Jesus, which deliberately includes five women, often noted for overcoming scandalous or challenging circumstances to become beacons of grace. These women include Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, Bathsheba, and Mary. These key figures define a redemption-focused, female-inclusive family treeHope that helps duder :^)
>>534412660so we should find the command to circumcise in the new testament? my narrative is neither jewish, nor islamic.
>>534412660>handeaveHandwave*
>>534412723>my narrative is neither jewish, nor islamicYet Jesus was a jew
>>534412709I'm glad we found it. can you show me my fever is kickin up over here. I might not make it
>>534412759>can you show me my fever is kickin up over here. I might not make itClearly you won't as I already showed you.Good luck bro, you need it
>>534412036You anti-christ cunts are worthless liars, and everyone know it.
>>534412754surely we'll find the lonnnng (it's long) female based lineages of names. should we grab it? while we're looking, we should probably grab the command to circumcise as well. we gotta hurry, I'm deteriorating
>>534412860>we gotta hurry, I'm deterioratingGood luck with your personal problems
>>534412860>we should probably grab the command to circumcise as well.The primary command to circumcise is found in Genesis 17:10–14 (NIV), where God establishes a covenant with AbrahamAnd as you said >>534412313>jesus sidenote: before abraham was born, i am.So, Jesus is giving the command.Thanks for playing and good luck with your mental illness
>>534412929I think I'm running out of time here. I'm at 101°. that's bad. can we grab those?? it's getting worse I think.
>>534403855I'm starting to see their point, I'm White, and I was arguing against Adam Green's shill brigade (who I still believe is a bad actor). Regardless, if we can't awaken White Christians to the reality of White genocide then they are a liability. It's really lopsided, White Christians are statistically more armed, fertile, and sympathetic to "Conservatism", but even more insular sects are full on "antiracist" antiwhites with either a high opinion of kikes, or they see them as victims after the holohoax propaganda. It's VERY difficult to bring up these topics, and more likely to get you ostracized.I don't think outright attacking them is going to work though. I think we're in a massive selection event, and likely it'll be abandoned with the surviving Whites.
>>534413016These people sway like the wind, think of how Hitler treated the matter, first he won and then he influenced the public as their statesman, people are willing to listen to authority figures far more than outcasts. These people sway like a leaf in the wind, they're not a factor for the most part
>>534404725>>534403481They are indeed a cult, scientology lite
but for god's sake, how can some say that knowledge and teachings are thanks to the church? all the positive changes for humanity came after the french revolution, the clandestine use of the printing press, and a united society. the church plunged europe into the dark ages, only to later claim it wasn't so dark anymore. but until the french revolution, the invention of the telegraph, radio, and tv—all of that wasn't brought about by the Church. It was brought about by people free from religion and state. communists hate anyone who poses a rival to their total power over the people, and the church stands between the state and the people, preventing communists from saying what is right and wrong in the name of the working class and the proletarian nation, whom they starve and control even in their thoughts, while the political elite live the golden dream. In europe, the kremlin itself is already installed in brussels, but in a "social democracy" version... the 2.0 version :D
>>534402595We a need a final solution for the LARPagan / Atheist Question.
>>534413491It was really the fault of feudalism and the mania with war, the church is a companion throughout all this, not a perpetrator. The dark ages were the fault of tribals toppling a great administrative empire, the church did what they could to preserve literacy and crafts in a sea of shadows