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Americans still can't explain why free healthcare is bad.
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>>534403213
Free healthcare can only work and high trust society
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so it's just a bot thread that pops up every single day?
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Why do Europeans think about Americans 24/7?
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>>534403250
that isn’t entirely true
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>>534403213

Nothing is free.
It's a lie.
Lies are bad.
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>>534403250
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>>534403213
Why do Americans think its free? I pay 33% social tax on my income (commietax). That means i'm paying for some unhealthy fat slob
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>>534403213
Too many niggers spics and retards. Our niggers spics and retards outnumber countries that have free healthcare populations.
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>>534403213
Not all of Europe has free Healthcare. Only a few countries have actual free Healthcare. The countries with totally free care is slopcare. The NHS is one of the most backwards systems
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As I recall during the Obamacare debate republicans fear mongered about death panels deciding to cut off people that were too costly.
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>>534403331
Yes and the people who pay for it deserve to pay for it
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>>534403348
Americans know precisely the difference between their healthcare system and Europe's. They simply think their system is better because giving obscene profits to Jews is the right thing to do
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>>534403213
>put all the healthcare money in one basket
>oops we imported infinity niggers
>oops they all need healthcare
and there's no such thing as free you fucking mongoloid
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>>534403426
Of course, this could never happen with private for-profit companies making the decisions
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>>534403331
Free as in free access. Yes, it's taxed, but if you have a broken leg, then a week later you have a heart attack, and then your mental health declines and you need treatment, etc, then your wife gives birth, or whatever, all of that will be provided no questions asked.
We pay National Insurance, which is no more than your private ones, and we don't have to worry if a treatment is covered.
So, yes it's not free, but we are free to not worry that a medical episode will ruin us financially.
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>>534403213
i can agree with free government healthcare on two conditions
>deport all non-whites and have punitively strict immigration laws
>fatties and druggies have to be taxed at least double, or pay some premium

without that, it's just redistribution from healthy, productive white people to shitskins and degenerate unhealthy losers
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>>534403719
Oh, it's mostly just some stupid general thread...
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>>534403955
Why would you LIE on the internet?
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>>534403213
Can someone dox this faggot already?
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>>534403213
It's not free. It's payed by taxes
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>>534403213
the government cannot make healthcare. All it does is order people around.
Central economic planning is super inefficient and this experiment will end in disaster. The government always ends up raising taxes into the stratosphere, strangling the economy, and cutting services. which means you could pay taxes for free healthcare your whole life and be denied it (and offered euthanasia instead) when you actually need it later in life.

Remember, the government is not obligated to provide healthcare to you. It will deny you healthcare whenever it can get away with it.
no taxes, free trade and competition is the answer; abundance is the answer.
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>>534403640
I dont understand why countries dont combine the two. Both versions are retarded. A healthy european has to pay a third of his paycheck to cover the expenses of blob people who think drinking water is a scam. Socialism always favors those that do not even care which obviously gets worse with third world immigration. The american system is much fairer in a way that you don't have to pay for your neighbours surgery whos been smoking a pack of cigarettes a day since he was 15, but it still gets retarded because of greed and irrationally high prices. Why not have the american system with state controlled prices?
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Some of them think it will make private medicine illegal
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>>534403213
doesn't matter if universal or paid, USA's healthcare sector is too corrupt and money hungry so it would be the same.
Maybe you should stop voting for big corpo shills but this is a foreign concept to the mutt
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>>534404917
>Remember, the government is not obligated to provide healthcare to you. It will deny you healthcare whenever it can get away with it.
Funny same thing goes for insurance companies
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>>534403213
>Americans still can't explain why free healthcare is bad.
What's there to explain? You and I alongside every other American in this thread have basically had this conversation for the last decade and a half? If not longer?
But in case you forgot here's some facts:
>We spend more healthcare on individual patient than any other country (yes, including government spending)
>We lead the world in R&D in medicine (So much so that you could genuinely argue it's an American subsidy for the rest of the fucking planet , i.e. AlphaFold)
>While it might be meaningless to mention because of sheer expense, the reality is is that in regard to quality of healthcare we're consistently top, year after year, full-stop.
Which system of healthcare should we adopt?
>France infamously assigns a nurse for mother at birth but are we willing to spend as much on healthcare as them? I'll be honest, probably not.
>Japan spends the lowest on healthcare, which we know is because of diet. >Knowing that, should there be a national effort in directing the standard American diet in order to reap similar benefits? Arguably we actually have the "social flexibility" to do exactly that unlike other Western nations
Niggers might seethe but that's the reality.

You really want to know how we could address America's healthcare crisis right now? By gutting the ballooning healthcare bureaucracy, which sounds fairly easy to do until you realize how many Americans the industry actually employs. How many ways you slice it, it's going to leave a cause a recession no matter what alongside massive employment. But again, the bloat continues to balloon and the longer we kick the can down road the more severe it's going to be when that balloon is popped.
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>>534403213
yes we can
you just keep spamming this same thread
over and over again
go kys you faggot ass op
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>>534403213
Wont work in America due to niggers and spics
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>>534403213
Because "free healthcare" ends up like my country
>Oh you have this problem, it'll kill you in 5 months but we can book you in for an easy surgery that will easily save your life, the next available timeslot is 2 years from now
>Yes I know you've been in the emergency waiting room for your burst appendix for the last 5 hours, but we have to let this non-citizen non-taxpayer in first so we can treat his headache and papercut
>Organ donor? Looks like this broken finger is actually a fatality, time to harvest!
>Sorry, there was a mixup in the lab because only one of our staff actually speaks English, instead of your blood transfusion giving you A-Positive type blood, it gave you AIDS-positive blood that was also an incompatible blood type. Totally fair mistake.
You end up paying for private healthcare anyway
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>>534407063
This. You'll have to slip doctors envelopes of cash to get prioritized. Some of them straight up have private clinics they'll try to book you in.
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>>534403213
>wasting resources keeping a bunch of stupid fat old people and their pet shitskins around is a good idea
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>>534403679
That's the issue here, Britain’s NHS is collapsing under waves of welfare leeches and mass immigration, yet everyone screams for more money while ignoring the obvious.

A&E is clogged with Muslim and South Asian families turning up with their entire clan for a cold. Mental health services, where I work, are buckling under African and Muslim patients bringing incompatible cultural attitudes and sky high genetic issues from cousin marriages.

The public refuses to face reality: it’s not just underfunding, it’s exploding demand from low skilled migration and zero integration.
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>>534404917
>government owes it's people nothing but they can demand your taxes though and use it to bail out corporations
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>>534404917
Ayn Rand tier jewslop.
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>>534404965
>The american system is much fairer in a way that you don't have to pay for your neighbours surgery whos been smoking a pack of cigarettes a day since he was 15
If you have insurance you are paying for him regardless, that's how it works. It relies on healthy people subsidizing the unhealthy.
There's no benefit to the American system, none. Anyone telling you otherwise is coping hard.
I got bit by a stray dog a couple years ago and with no insurance it cost me $400 just to go to the doctor and get prescribed a bottle of anti-biotics AND I had to wait three hours, that's fucking insane.



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