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The USA could probably take Iran out in 3 months and loose fewer than 25k personnel doing it. Also the world would become an objectively better place.
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Loose?
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>>534406927
Litcherally
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>>534406927
Loooooooose. Like what Iran will do and be ones America sempia has spread love and kindness.
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even more unpopular opinion, youre wrong and we would lose badly, but now that an asian high school teacher has explained the rationalization for such a disaster it would be fun to just do it
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>>534406846
Probably could, but why would USA want to bear the entire burden of this without assistance?
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>>534406846
you can only win wars against ak-47 armies oh hang on you lost against the taliban
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>>534406846
>the world would become an objectively better place
Because of the US taking Iran or because of 25 thousans Americans dying?
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>>534407003
This also. Hypothetically America could do it easily. This isn't to say that some good old fashioned retardation would fuck up a campaign beyond all recognition. Just look at ukriane ffs.
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>>534407024
To show everyone else that you aren't chicken. You aren't chicken are you Anon?
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>>534407070
Why not both?
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>>534407058
Americas issue there was not fagging them up
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>>534406846
Lose* as in you lose in everything you do and your mother has a loose cunt.

Learn english if you are going to live in the UK Apu.
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>>534406846
They would if Iran was as stupid as sadam Hussein was and let the USA peacefully prepare for 1 entire year for the invasion concentrating assets right at the Iraq Iran border.
USA ran away from Gulf bases and were thrown out of Iraq.
USA is scared and doesn't go near Iran so how and from where would they invade?
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>>534406846
True. Also, Russia could probably take Ukraine in 3 days.
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>>534407110
No way you get through a ground invasion with less than 2-3trillion and deploying several hundred thousand personnel. The scope of which is genuinely not something the modern American armed forces is capable of gambling with. If they do a ground invasion, it's to intentionally destroy the American empire and armed forces.
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>>534406846
> Hello, World police
>> Hello fren
>> I've got an Africa fully infested with niggers
>> We'll nuke it for you fren
>> Thank you world police

(mutts living up to their selfimportance)
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>>534406846
Why doesnt the US bomb Israeli schoolgirls, seeing as that it was the jews who were raping and killing white girls??
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>>534406846
>it's another harry dresden thread
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>>534407239
Learn Swedish bobble head >>534407279
>the USA ran away from the gulf bases
Whatever turk roach. Why lie? The USA is building strength there as we speak
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>>534407450
They could nuke the place. Specifically for the emp value
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>>534408170
You over estimate the American military kiddo.

The reality is, they are not very good, they just use numbers but against clever opponents, they fail.
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It's probably what they said about Vietnam
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>>534406927
Loose change
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>>534408357
they said 6 months in and out of vietnam in a strictly advisory role
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>>534406846
just like russia could beat ukraine in 3 days right? I genuinely believe burgers lose any war against iran if no nukes are used. Not only is it a far bigger country than ukraine, it's halfway across the world.
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>>534408330
The USA only power they ever had was the biggest industry with endless resources with fantastic logistics.
They never had good tactics or actual warriors in their army. Turns out you can't bomb an enemy back to the stone age if they never went beyond stone age in the first place.
Their MIC creating extremely pricey weapons all to blow up a mudhut is not sustainable either. They know this too but it's all infested with corruption so as long as tax cattle pays it won't change.
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>>534408330
You sound Indian. Nah they'd fuck iran up
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>>534408170
You're fucking stupid.
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>>534408609
The problem with those wars is that they never finished off there opponents. They never pushed into North Vietnam and they force the Afghans into city's.
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>>534406846
>Also the world would become an objectively better place
If you happen to be a foreskin sucking tunnel jew.
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>>534408709
Poo in the loo sar
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>>534406846
The goal isn't to win bong. The goal is destabilization and who knows? Maybe a new forever war.
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The US should draft a million men and women and do a D-day type amphibious landing with 500,000 troops.
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>>534406846
US military is useless against near tier opponents.
Losing personnel in combat is not something the popular opinion can handle. The military industry complex is optimized on profit and not on results, so they cannot sustain a war longer than a month, they cannot produce shit in quantity. Their bases were taken out and they lack the infrastructure to supply a large number of troops in the region. Military leadership is counter-selected since decades and they visibly still not thinking about how to deal with drone warfare.
It would be fun to watch drone videos of US and UK infantry getting blown into wet chunks, though.
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>>534406846
Well, no fucking duh. That would, however, require bombing a whooooooooooooooole lotta civilians, which Trump has repeatedly said since day 1 he basically refuses to do outside of any unwanted accidents.
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Are you shitting on my balls?
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Unpopular opinion

I could smash the anti-christ's head with a sledge hammer in about 3 seconds and the world would become an objectively better place. Just have to get through all the DEI secret service agents fast enough.
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>>534408609
>The USA only power they ever had was the biggest industry with endless resources
This.

They learnt their fast and furious approach from the German Blitzkrieg in WW2 . . .. when they came across it, the Americans shit themselves and ran away . . .I'm not joking, the real story of the Battle of the Bulge, is not how Hollywood tells it. And much of history doesn't discuss it.

They are well equipped with the latest gear but against quality soldiers, they fall apart, often because of the report system they have.

You would be surprised to know how many times American SF had to be rescued by British SF in Afghanistan?
Even prompting the SAS to refuse to work with American SF as they were 'unprofessional and too quick to panic' they considered them a danger.
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If they use nukes otherwise you really should look into the failed Isfahan attack to learn how wrong you are.
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>>534408776
In Vietnam the USA was scared that China would intervene again like they did in the Korea war. Big mighty USA being scared about the Chinese peasant army lmao.
Gorilla warfare only works if your enemy follows muuh rules of war muuh human rights. Total genocide in Afghanistan would be very easy but then the backlash from the world would be not worth it
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>>534409177
You're shitting on my balls
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>>534409177
I'm here. And you're there. Yet somehow the shit from your ass is landing on my balls.
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>>534409117
I'm blushing. Pitty we priorities fabian policies that destroy us over those that would make us stronger. Like you know having a navy.
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>>534409177
Even if you were right and I think you are wrong because international law has never been worth anything, genocide takes too long. Look at Israel with Palestine and their neighbours, this is a country many times that size.
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>>534409353
You've shat. And the shits on my balls
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>>534409117
>I'm not joking, the real story of the Battle of the Bulge, is not how Hollywood tells it. And much of history doesn't discuss it.

So what IS the real story? As far as I am aware the conventional story is that the Germans made strong opening moves, got overstretched and wasted too much time on a handful of defensive positions that didn't fold immediately and then got buttfucked by the Allied counter-attack which almost completely destroyed most of their offensive capabilities.

It's true that America's biggest advantage in war is their sheer mastery of logistics but it's wrong to claim that it's the only thing they have. Even in situations where US soldiers had to operate with limited resources they frequently punched above their weight.
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>>534406846
3 months 25k men. So, if it lasted six months 50k men. A year 100k men.

Is this really sustainable for america?
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>>534409177
The USA could have won in Afghanistan the way we did in Malaysia. Basically force them all to live in towns and cities and those who don't are communists. You kill those ones.
>>534409197
No one is shitting on your balls.
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>>534406846
What the hell would be the purpose of that you Zionist cunt? Iran is a sovereign nation, the Yanks and their Jew overlords can get fucked.
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>>534409378
Some Hispanics may die. But that is a price I am willing to pay
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>>534409380
It sure feels like that when there is SHIT ON MY BALLS
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>>534409310
You sound like a 12 year old kid.
Listen we don't have an empire anymore, we have NO NEED for a fuck-off large Navy as we don't have to protect the colonies.

Our Navy is more than capable of protecting our islands and more . . .our new Subs are the most advanced in the world and also the quietest.

If we were that bad. . .. why was Trump crying like a baby to get us to go to the Strait of Hormuz when the Americans are 'Oh So Mighty'????

Because we know how to operate effectively.
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>>534409117
Americans love to laugh at Soviets doing mass meat wave attacks against us but the USA did literally the same.
Their tanks for example were weak garbage but were easy and cheap to produce and we were overwhelmed by numbers alone not some smart tactics or superior fighting spirit and it worked out for them.
Germany had no resources so we had to back our trust in superior weapons and fighting spirit, we couldn't win an attrition war so our muuh Blitzkrieg was the only viable option.
Modern USA fights with some perverted German tactics absolutely not suitable for them.
It's a Farce since the USA has so much potential.
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>>534409377
>and then got buttfucked by the Allied counter-attack
And that's what history says . . .. but who were these 'Allies'????

Battle of the Bulge (16/12/44 - 28/1/45)
The Bulge refers to the breach of allied lines by German offensive.

>Germans chose American section of lines to attack, knowing the Americans would run away . . . and they did.
>over 6,000 Americans surrendered and most units 'withdrew' in absolute panic and chaos.
>US command and control failed due to communication failure south of the Bulge.

>Eisenhower gave control of the North to Montgomery
>Montgomery moved 30 Corps down from the Netherlands to block the German advance at the Meuse river.
>The British also counter attacked further North and the Germans got annoyed that they were fighting the British.
>This gave time for the Americans to regroup and come back to the fight.

German Commander Hasso Von Manteuffel noted that Montgomery turned it into a coherent battle providing the necessary 'backbone'.

But Hollywood writes the history and turns this into an American victory.(no surprises here).

Many such cases.
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>>534409353
For a genocide chemical and biological weapons would be the best choice and even with Gaza Israel is holding back with aid and food aid flowing in to help palirats.
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>>534406846
have fun fighting their 7 million men army supplied by China lolmao
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>>534409605
For the Americans it's always been quantity over quality.

That's their metric.
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>>534406846
>Unpopular opinion
wouldn't have been an unpopular opinion on /pol/ a few years ago but now the board has been colonised by outrage feigning tourists
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>>534407024
Shitzrael can help.
That bullshit iran shitzrael war is not EU's war. Nor is it USA's really. When it comes to ua war.. that's different bc puccia is always an enemy to usa. Therefore it's in their interest to help. But shitzrael is not part of EU yet invited to Eurovision, witch sucks anyway but it's just embarrassing that shitzrael comes there to sing also.
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>>534409836
While the Japanese were fighting on 600calories a day the Americans had nonsense stuff like ice cream ships just because they could. That WAS their true power but their industry is gone nowadays.
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>>534409532
Yeah it's not as we need a navy to protect any global commitments......
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>>534409783
Me? No I Said American
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>>534410007
Japan was also being strangled by the Soviets, most people don't know about this, I suppose it doesn't make good movies.

But American arrogance is also their downfall.
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>>534406846
>The USA could probably take Iran out in 3 months
No. America can't win ground wars. They haven't won a ground war on their own since the 1800s and that was against other Americans. They have no actual military will.

>and loose fewer than 25k personnel doing it.
Delusional retardation. The US lost at least 100 troops skirmishing with untrained unsupported unmotivated militiamen in Fallujah in 2004, and Iraq was a totally flat country where the US had complete air dominance. The US would lose 100-1000 men every single day and the army would collapse.

>Also the world would become an objectively better place.
Who the fuck cares about Iran. You sound like a bitter brown refugee whose dumbass family pissed off the ruling party and now you want whites to go fight your wars for you. We're done with that shit Muhammed.
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>>534410299
Soviet's learned lots from us and implemented their own Blitzkrieg in the east steamrolling and annihilating all of Manchuria in a week which was the real reason Japan capitulated and not some nucular bombs.
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>>534406846
The USA could probably take Isreal out in 3 months and lose fewer than 25k personnel doing it. Also the world would become an objectively better place.
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>>534406846
In you go then lad, have fun!
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>>534406846
Yeah, if you want it fully gone.
For a fraction of that price you can make them gnaw off their own limbs and reap every tangible benefit of their defeat by just besieging and bombing them as Donald is doing.
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>>534410456
Americans never had a real reason and motivation to fight some bullshit war on the other side of the world.
USAs best defense are the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean and we saw that they CAN go full war mode like we saw with Japan completely destroying them.
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>>534406846
Probably
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>>534406846
Sometimes opinions are unpopular because they're wrong
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>>534410920
As you know - History is written by the 'victors' so some information is harder to find but the more you look the more you find that Hollywood and popular belief is WAAAAAY different than the truth.
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>>534411375
While not being the first on the Frontline the industrial output of the USA was ridiculous and all the allies relied on them.
England was losing in Europe and getting cucked by the japsoids in Asia until the USA came to the rescue.
Our uboats were successfully starving your nation until the USA simply build more ships than we could sink.
With the Soviets the same if not for the USA feeding and arming the entire Soviet horde they would never be able to create offensives.
They build more armory and had more resources than the entire world together.
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>>534412472
>England was losing in Europe
That's far from the truth.
The airborne battle of Britain was a huge win for us and any invasion of Britain was considered dead.

UBoats started to get picked off because of the stuff we invented, you were losing in the Atlantic and no longer a threat.

For a poxy little island in the North Atlantic we did pretty well in Europe too fighting much of it on our own against a much bigger army.

It was the Soviets that ultimately finished off the you Army.

And let's face it . . . . it's easy for the Americans to build stuff, they never had their industrial centres and factories being bombed day and night . . . oh the luxury!
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>>534406846

> US could nuke.
> US could shock & awe.
... but at what cost.
- Casualties are European-allies FarEast-allies
- US economy, US geopolitical power

Iran has no nukes, but it could obliterate/dusrupt oil-production in the ME for a few years.
America has bigger fish to fry.
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>>534406846
Okie dokie. Do it then.
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>>534412984
> i like china, but I hate israel more
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>>534412911
Battle of Britain was not a one sided win we both lost similar amount and that could have continued forever.
British might was split all around the world and without the USA mopping up Japan in Asia the power balance would have shifted hard.
England has no resources either especially not enough food to feed yourself and everything came from the colonies and uboats were slowly starving you out.
We had no navy to invade Britain for sure but England alone would have nowhere enough power to start a D Day on their own either.
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>>534412911
>the British Empire at its zenith
>a poxy little island in the North Atlantic
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>>534407003
>we
Turn off vpn, chang
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>>534407279
Any proofs? Or is it real in your mind?
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>>534408555
>thinking the US and russia were in any way equals
Kek
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>>534413304
>and uboats were slowly starving you out.
Nope
We found ways of tracking you and your Uboats became less of a threat, you were losing the Atlantic already before the Americans came on board.
The film Greyhound with Tom Hanks was inspired by a real crossing . . Full of American heros using Sonar (a British invention) .but guess what, there were no Americans present at all - that's Hollywood for you.

> nowhere enough power to start a D Day on their own either.
The British planned D Day was going ahead with or without the Americans (who fucked it up badly by the way)
I won't go into detail here not enough time really, I might write a synopsis and save it to notepad?

Yes were were skint and we needed money, only after American sent in auditors to confirm we were broke ( I kid you not) . . .they arranged a deal which well and truly screwed us over, involving repayment plus interest and the Tizzard mission (look it up) we gave them loads of tech and they tried to claim it as their own . . .long story.

I don't really want to get in a pissing contest with you Germ anon.
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>>534406846
You will be busified to fight before the burgers bong.
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People are so dumb now they cannot comprehend second order effects.
>I don’t care about oil I ride a bike
>the US could destroy Iran! Erm occupation what’s that?
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>>534406846
They wouldn't even lose 2500 troops. Iran couldnt offer any significant battlefield resistance.
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>>534406846
No, no it can't actually.

One of the signs of a dying empire is the mental attachment a lot of proxies of the former empire hold that do not align with the reality of America's degraded power projection capabilities.
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>>534406846
>not only is Iran not Iraq tier, but it is also not Vietnam tier either
>durr less than 25k
>the world will be a better place for israel because there is no other point
This is why the only things you’re in “control of” is shitposting against le nahzees on 4chins and chronic masturbation
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>>534406846
Like the 20 years in Afghanistan? Who ran away, remind me again, Sunjay?
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>>534406846
America has literally never won a foreign war in the 20-21st century.
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>>534406846
Then what?
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>>534406846
>Also the world would become an objectively better place.
True
25k less Americans really helps
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>>534406846
Nobody ever took Switzerland by force and they've got the same geography as Iran.
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>The USA could probably take Iran out in 3 months and loose fewer than 25k personnel doing it. Also the world would become an objectively better place.
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>>534406846
You could probably jump of a bridge and lose fewer than 75% of your body function.
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>>534406846
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>>534406846
Fucking Yidiot.

Nuke Israel (sorry Gazans) and the world would have a path to utopia.
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>>534406846
give me a break, no.
Guerilla drone warfare is as dangerous for the invaders as air superiority is for the defenders (which is pretty fucking dangerous). Pretty much all expeditionary troops are fish in a barrel for constant drone bombings.
Nowadays drones make the defenders advantage so high that it's like WWI again with soldiers running into machine guns
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>>534406927
Please be patient. English is his 2nd language. (Hebrew is his 1st).
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>>534406846
>the world would become an objectively better place
They're gonna keep fucking shit up until BTC hits $1,000,000 so if there's old heads who need to get slimed along the way then so be it.
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>>534406846
>The USA could probably take Iran out in 3 months and loose fewer than 25k personnel doing it. Also the world would become an objectively better place.
Yes, but if you stretch that timeline out, you can make billions (if you are a billionaire)
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>>534407279
>USA is scared and doesn't go near Iran
We initiated this war by directly murdering the Ayatollah in his own bunker, how is that afraid to go at it with Iran, moron
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>>534406927
it appears OP doesn't speak American very good
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>>534417385
>We initiated this war by directly murdering the Ayatollah in his own bunker,
During peace talks . . .a bit sneaky and let's get the record straight, Isreal initiated it.
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>>534406846
>loose
American tech companies hired to flood the internet with Zionist propaganda are out sourcing the work to third world poojeets.
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>>534406846
Couldn't even finish the Iraq war in that time
still lost Iraq war
This will probably be even harder
Its not worth all the death and destruction
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