From Das Kapital>all the means for developing production turn into different ways to dominate and exploit the producer; these means deform the worker, making him into a partial human being, leaving him degraded, a mere appendage of the machine; they also destroy the substance of labor as they recast his work as torture; they alienate the worker from the intellectual powers needed for the labor process, doing so in proportion to the extent to which science is incorporated into that process as an independent power; and they make the circumstances in which the worker works more and more abnormal, subject him to a hateful, supremely petty despotism during the labor process, turn his lifetime into labor-time, and thrust his wife and children under the wheels of the juggernaut that is capital. But all the methods for producing surplus-value are also methods for bringing about accumulation, and every time accumulation increases, this is, at the same time, a means of further developing those very methods. It follows that however well or poorly a worker is paid, his situation becomes worse in proportion to capital’s accumulation. Finally, the law that always maintains the equilibrium between the relative surplus population (or industrial reserve army) and the extent and energy of accumulation welds the worker to capital more tightly than Hephaestus’s wedges bound Prometheus to the rock. This law requires an accumulation of misery that corresponds to the accumulation of capital. So the accumulation of wealth on one side of the capital relation is simultaneously the accumulation of misery, torturous labor, slavery, ignorance, brutality, and moral degradation on the opposite side, where we find the class whose own product is produced as capital.Wage slaves of the world unite: you have nothing to lose but your chains.https://youtube.com/watch?v=7J__ZdvsZaESister thread on /lit/ for dialectics reading group: >>>/lit/25245880
materialism is false
>>534408390Capitalist materialism is, which reduces the world down to particular objects that are moved around like billiard balls. But dialectical materialism, which is Heraclitean, is true
>>534408518Dialectical materialism isn't true either.
>>534408624Quid est veritas
>>534408355Give me the gist of Marx's Jewish Question.
>>534408699something closer to idealism
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishablefrom other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.https://www.gommies.gom/fug/https://www.gommies.gom/staRepublicansrve/GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.Resources:https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/https://www.gommies.gom/1984/https://www.gommies.gom/guck/https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/https://www.gommies.gom/benis/Da sdages of gommunism.>Sdage oneBourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.>Sdade twoWitheringAll beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary asbeeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.>Sdage threeGommunism.No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.>Sdage fourNod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
>>534408746If that were the case then real life wouldn't contrast so starkly with what we wished it was.
>>534408355kike puppets
>>534408822the world is the way that conscious beings believe it is You might wish it to be better but you don't believe it to be soAnd even if you did, you're competing with trillions of other life-forms who don't
>>534408916And capitalists aren't?
>>534408916>pack it up, wage slaves, wage slavery is good because the Jews don't like it>>534408958What causes belief? Jeopardy theme here
>>534408355My favorite part of communism is it being based on circular logic and black and white thinking. Cool, the capitalist class is ontologically evil and the peasantry is the base state of ultimate infallible goodness. Until you actually apply it to real world stuff like farming where the logic utterly falls apart.
>>534409011>>534409014Same thing, you are both Mammon worshipers so you crave being led by kikes.It's logic.
>>534409025>the peasantry is the base state of ultimate infallible goodnesPeasantry is not the base of a communist state and is in many cases considered an obstacle to communism.
>>534409014>What causes belief?The vast majority of people don't have free will and are just programmed by the world around them, if that's what you're getting atFree will and a coherent soul is something that has to be developed
>>534409025You have never read Marx and only watch YouTube nonsense.
>>534409083Schiff hated Bolshevism and tried to ensure they were internationally isolated
>>534409105What world? You just said our world is just what we believe. So their beliefs are caused by their beliefs?
>>534409166Yeah that's how they control you retards. Double speak.
>>534409083I don't care about money, though.I want enough to survive and thrive, but I have no interest in being rich.Whereas capitalists literally worship the rich, and see avarice as a virtue rather than a vice.
>>534409267>t.
>>534409200I'm not sure where you're not following. The distant past is just a projection in this framework. Conscious beings currently collectively believe reality is a certain way, therefore that is what they perceive. So materialism is a self-fulfilling self-limiting mental prison.As are all belief systems. You don't have free will until you break out of them.
>>534409383What causes their belief
>>534409320See you can't think outside of the frame and the center of your reflexion is money.You can cope but it's the truth.Now dematrix yourself.
>>534409320look at this evil rich-worshipping capitalist
>>534409408Capitalism IS rhe matrix>Capital is dead labor that acts like a vampire: it comes to life only when it drinks living labor, and the more living labor it drinks, the more it comes to life. The time when the worker is working is the time when the capitalist consumes the labor-power he has bought. When a worker uses his disposable time for his own purposes, he is stealing from the capitalist.-Das Kapital
>>534409406It would likely map onto the Yuga cycle. The Kali Yuga is just the point where life has collectively come to believe things are this way. If you lean into Gnostic or Neo-Gnostic theories, then an outside force essentially engineered or maintain those beliefs.
>>534408916>>534409011Both capitalism and communism are kike puppets. From the two shades of communism Stalinism is probably the one that could work like in china, MarxLeninism on the other hand is just globalist jewism.Lenin and Trotsky were kike spies sent to destroy the Russian empire with funding from the west.Stalin believed communism at first but then caught up to it just being a globalist plot to fuck Russia, tried to purge and exile kikes and the elites. They came back west and made use of capitalism and propaganda to take over during the cold war and here we are. Capitalism is best but with jews in charge they will be there to take all the profit while the people will share the burden, just like in communism with extra steps. Also no man should have access to billions in money and be able to change entire countries, demons like soros should be executed.
>>534409493I don't lean into astrology or chakras or crystals or anything from a religion which says being wealthy is a spiritual reward for good deeds in a past life and a wage slave must be obedient and docile until death if he wants to escape it
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>>534409592>hurr durrI didn't say Hinduism was true or that you should be Hindu. One element of it can hold water. The cycle of ages is found in all pre-Abrahamic traditions.
>>534409615>you own such a big houseThe CIA needs to revise their material
>>534408355Frenly reminder that communism failed and doesn't work and just leads to slavery
>>534409661I like Occam's Razor
>>534409615>>534409166>Politburo = Spartiates>Soviet goyim = Helots>You will own nothing and be happy Helot, you will plow you will reap whilst Spartans sit at effendi and eat>also a spartan can just murder you for lels just like KGBWow isn't it weird how all the communist countries end up looking like historical slave nations structurally? We should definitely try again we just need a better slave owning cla-, I mean, vanguard party this time
>>534409704Materialism can't explain how the universe came into being or how consciousness exists
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies: Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. r/https://www.gommies.gom/fug/ r/https://www.gommies.gom/starve/GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here: r/https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.Resources: r/https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/ r/https://www.gommies.gom/1984/ r/https://www.gommies.gom/guck/ r/https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/ r/https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/ r/https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/ r/https://www.gommies.gom/benis/Da sdages of gommunism.Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all. Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
>>534409485Goymunism was lame psy op with the objective to divide rich and poor people from the same Nations while destroying borders so kikes could replace the wealthy class by being internationalists without moral and attachment to their own nations.Thank you useful idiots.
>>534409408If only we had a system where money wasn't a thing and people worked for the greater good of society, instead of just enriching the already super rich.
>>534409850We do, it's called distributism and it actually works (Nazi Germany, pre 80s Japan, Deng Xiaoping China). Unlike communism which is the same as late stage Capitalism, a return to the primitive Servile State of slavery
>>534409771>A is LITERALLY X!>>534409780Dialectical materialism doesn't try to describe time and action outside of time because such a concept is incoherent. Time and space are one scientifically one continuum, we just can only see time in one direction. Consciousness in the sense of self-concept is an emergent property of the superorganism humanity. The individual is a social phenomenon
>>534409831>wage slaves, show some solidarity with the wealthy who were deeply moral in the 1800's back when they hired mercenary pinkertons to gun you down for asking for a raise
>>534408740Marx critique to capitalism is pretty much being against jewishness, it has many similarities to christianity in that sense
>>534409981Distributism is an ideology that comes from the Torah and the problem with it is that it's a pyramid scheme, hence the need for "Lebensraum" in Biblical Israel, Nazi Germany, and modern Israel. If "Lebensraum" is not there, it quickly stops functioning
>>534408740>Jewry cannot create a new world; it can only draw the world’s new-made creations and relationships into the sphere of its industriousness, because practical need, whose motivation is private interest, acts passively and never initiates growth, only feeds on the growth of society.>Jewish Jesuitism—that practical Jesuitism which in the Talmud, as Bauer shows, deals with the clever circumvention by the world of private interest of the laws that rule it—is the chief art of that world.>What is stated as theory in Jewish religion, namely, contempt for theory, art, history and man as an end in himself, is an actual and conscious point of view, held to be virtuous by the man of money. Even the relations between the sexes, between man and woman, become an object of commerce. The woman is auctioned off.>The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the true nationality of the merchant, of the man of money.>The law of the Jew, lacking all solid foundation, is only a religious caricature of morality and of law in general, but it provides the formal rites in which the world of property clothes its transactions.>The view of nature gained under the dominion of money and private property is a genuine contempt, a materialistic degradation of nature, such as exist in Jewish religion, if only in fancy.>It is in this sense that Thomas Münzer complains that “all creatures have become property, the fish in the water, the birds in the air, the plants on the ground—the creatures, too, must become free.”
>>534410060Im not saying the wealthy class of the 1800s was exemplar, in fact they acted like commies today. Importing foreign workers even if it was limited to Europe but some things happened before that by the same so called (((humanists))).When you are disgusting, you wear fancy etiquettes. You still smell death and blood by millions.
>>534410352>Indeed, the materialistic rule of the Jew over the Christian world has in the United States reached such everyday acceptability that the propagation of the Gospels, the teaching of Christianity itself, has become an article of commerce, and the bankrupt merchant deals in Gospels just as the enriched gospeler deals in business>Money is the zealous one God of Israel, beside which no other God may stand. Money degrades all the gods of mankind and turns them into commodities. Money is the universal and self-constituted value set upon all things. It has therefore robbed the whole world, of both nature and man, of its original value. Money is the essence of man’s life and work, which have become alienated from him: this alien monster rules him and he worships it.>The God of the Jews has become secularized and is now a worldly God. The bill of exchange is the Jew’s real God. His God is the illusory bill of exchange.>What is the foundation of the Jew in our world? Practical necessity, private advantage.>What is the object of the Jew’s worship in this world? Usury. What is his worldly God? Money.>Very well then: emancipation from usury and money, that is, from practical, real Judaism, would constitute the emancipation of our time.>Christianity sprang from Judaism; it has now dissolved itself back into Judaism
>>534410353Capitalists ALWAyS use scabs and they force unions to not put it in their contracts that they can't. Even in France it is ILLEGAL for unions to require their employer to only hire union, they are not allowed to make that contract.
>>534409090>>534409109Reply to this and you suck butt>What is having never actually read On Capital lmfao
>>534410427unionist are always pro immigration. Bunch of retards, did they read Marx talking about the army of replacement of the capital? Ofc no. Goymunism is for retards and protect kikes.
>>534410434Peasant just means agrarian people who were not nobility. They include everything from wealthy plantation owners to seasonal labor. They are not a class but include classes. From Lenin to Mao there has been consistency that wage slave peasants are part of the revolutionPeasants are not regarded as the base because communism requires an industrialized economy. Hence such an extreme emphasis on industrialization in communist countries.
>>534410522The reserve army of labor isn't a class enemy in Marxism. It has been posited as such forever, back then it was the Irish, capitalism will NEVER give up the reserve army of labor because like Marx said, it NEEDS that to function in order to drive down wages. Every empire imported a reserve army of labor from other provinces whenever unemployment got too low. For hundreds of years. The issue is that unions cannot make contracts forbidding scabs
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>>534410352>>534410381Interdasting.
>>534409813fugg :DDDgill all gommudisds :DDD
Cry about it. Unions are just another form of Monopoly, only for labor and like any monopoly must be excised from any healthy economy. Unions must compete with both Non-union and competing unions.
Why did it fail in Russia? And why haven't they tried again?Seeing your circus tent flag talking about communism is just funny to me. I can't take you seriously.
>>534410698Bro sprinted full blast onto the field to eat the referee and the goal keepers butts just to be move the goal posts by being pedantic about the version of schlubby plebeian wagie prole anon used.
>>534408355Get your own money, loser.
based thread
/pol/ having a melty because capitalism and the capitalist elite aka jews are the cause of massive inmigration in order to mantain the reserve army of labor so they can still profit from underpaying workers. China is the system of the future, cope and seethe.>>534415161Stop stealing it from workers. Simple as.
>>534414397If private interest can corporatize and sign exclusivity contracts for business partner, want can't labor unions?>>534414963There wasn't any goal to begin. Nothing in Das Kapital says agriculture must be abolished.
>>534415161Money in capitalism is a form of theft. Money only has worth because it is backed by labor and labor is allowed some of their value back through it, which is further poached from them by "quantstive easing" which re-divided the total of society's labor making the portion their money represents, smaller and smaller
Why is this dumb thread still going? Communism is a failed economic system that leads to slavery, and Distributism is the actual solution to Capitalism and has worked every single time it's been put in practice, in Nazi Germany, in Pre 80s Window guidance Japan (see Richard Werners Princes of the Yen), and in Post-Deng Xiaoping China. In these three nations, two were forced to abruptly end their economic model because it was so successful in outcompeting capitalism and denying the RothschiId Epstein banker-financier class profits, Germany was stopped through WW2, Japan was stopped after the secret distributists Window Guidance policy was uncovered and sabotaged from within by bankers loyal to the CIA and Wall Street,and the third, China faced unsuccessful heavy threats from the Soviet Union, resulting into the Sino-Soviet split.Distributism WORKS, especially within a racially conscious nation state. Communism does not, it fails and as Belloc and Hayek rightly predict, leads to a dark mirror of hyper centralised late stage Finance Capitalism, the Servile (Slave) state.
>>534418139Already addressed here>>534410289
>>534408355>Marxism General
>>534420057You keep posting this capitalism doesn't magic things out of thin air or else gold would be as abundant as water in order to meet demand
