Why are we all suddenly autistic? Is it the vaccines? Are people larping/self diagnosing? Is it those dang phones?
>>534409763>get better at diagnosing mental disorder>mental disorder gets diagnosed more I can’t believe people like you have the same voting power as someone like me
>>534409763>suddenly
>>534409915Interesting. So explain, specifically with details, how we've become "better at diagnosing" autism over time. What changed?
>>534409915max IQ to think like this?
>>534409915>Pay people money if they claim to have a acoustic child.>Everyone lies>Make it so everyone has to have a doctor note to get autismbux>Massive REEEEEEing intensifies
>>534409763There's a lot of pressure in Western countries to be non functional and stupid.> parents get money and attention when their children are retarded> children get more money and resources when they are retarded > people that act out criminally or retardedly get more success with women > people who are unemployed don't have to worry about dying or starving Biggest mistake was allowing the public to gain any knowledge about these conditions, since they are extremely easy to fake. Especially since psychiatrists usually use parents as a reference point . > according to you your child shows all the signs of autism that you looked up ? > great hes autistic
>>534409974>research gets collected >symptoms get reported >literature gets updated >doctors adjust to new informationYou don’t even need details if you have basic common sense, I swear to god man you young people are so beyond fucked, it’s like I go to Starbucks and say good morning to the zoomwagie making my Frappuccino and just the fact that a coherent string of words even managed to come out of my mouth is like rocket science to them
>>534409763Many boomers are autistic but never diagnosed, they were able to have fairly normal lives because society was on easy mode. I know friends who have mega autistic kids and I think it was because they parented with the ipad with elsagate slop channels on loop and fed them slop too. Mainly affluent background young women are self diagnosing because more victimhood trophies and/or gibs.
>>534410165>is asked to provide specific improvements in diagnosing Autism>gives vague response and says "you don't need details"So are you retarded yourself or can you just not answer the fucking question you stupid nigger?
>>534410285I answered your question dumdum it really is this simple
>>534410350when pressed for detail, the retard commonly appeals to circular reference.
>>534410350You did not. I said provide specifics on how diagnosing Autism has been "improved." You essentially responded by saying "because it's been improved." Now provide SPECIFIC DETAILS.
>>534410165Psychology as a science is relatively new all things considered, its not really all that surprising that even in recent history we've had a very poor understanding of how all this works. It still shocks people that what was once commonly understood as science may not be that way in the future, and they see every change in our understanding of science as some malicious takeover of the established order.
>>534410350i was listening to doctor radio years ago. a mother called in and said her daughter developed autism right after getting a vaccine. the doctor cut her off and said he didn't want to send the message that people shouldn't take vaccines.so if they don't listen to parents when they say "my kid got autism right after taking the vaccine", how would they ever get data showing a link between autism and vaccines? the answer is they wouldnt. they would always have chronic underreporting.these are the same people who made the covid vaccine companies immune to lawsuits, because the vaccine is so safe. they tried to do the same thing with glyphosate in the new u.s. farm bill but it looks like that got defeated for now.
>>534410350What's the matter, "dumdum." Can't answer a simple question? He ran away from this thread because he got a sense of what I am in comparison to him.
>>534410708Kids are often diagnosed at a similar age to when they would normally get vaccines, typically around the time that social development starts where abnormalities be identified, so many kids do get vaccinated so its hard to say that any one of them that develops autism must be from the vaccine. Maybe thats all part of a great conspiracy, or maybe its just coincidence, up to you to decide I guess.
>>534409978Abo tier
>>534409763Psych here.When we switched from autistic disorder in the DSM-IV to autism spectrum disorder in the DSM-5, people who previously would have diagnoses like Asperger’s and even many cases of “mental retardation” were brought under the banner of ASD. This was done on the basis first and foremost of neurological similarities between these DSM-IV disorders.Now ASD is fairly broad and allows for diagnosis in many more cases.For a good historical example, you can look into the history of autism. At one point the term was used for people who we would today consider ADHD. At one point it was used for people who we would describe today as catatonic.You have to understand that we are working with socially determined categories, and the people who make these categories are a handful of psychiatrists working in the APA.Additionally, we are now required to bill insurance for services, and insurance now requires a commitment of a diagnosis on record to receive payment. If you meet with a patient you then have to write a note, usually 4-5 paragraphs, alongside a diagnosis code (ie, F90.0) and a service code (ie, 90837 GT). You’d be surprised by the number of psychologists, counselors, and social workers who wouldn’t provide diagnoses at all if insurance didn’t require a diagnosis on record to bill.
>>534409763It’s not really autism. The Jews just started associating shy/awkward men with autism. It was a way to maintain a monopoly on women and also change the culture so that women no longer bothered with shy or awkward white men. Who traditionally used to get married or reproduce with mid tier women after a certain age.
We just are.
>>534411248No I had to poop and then my daughter woke up
>>534409974>>534410285>>534410460If you want a more specific answer, a clearer understanding of why severely autistic children behave the way they do has paved the way for less severe symptoms to be accurately categorised. Where before a child would simply be labelled 'difficult' or 'quirky', it is now understood that they have neurological similarities to children who can't interpret other people's emotions at all, or cannot even understand language.Whether it actually helps to give a very mildly affected child the label 'autistic' is still an open question in my view. Likewise, it does open the door for parents to shop around for a diagnosis to excuse their shitty parenting. However, there are definitely genuinely autistic children who would not have been picked up forty years ago; it is not a made up disorder, nor is has there been a sudden explosion in the numbers of severely autistic children that might suggest some kind modern toxin is poisoning kids. At most, you could maybe attribute a bit of the rise in autism to the rising average age of parents; waiting until you're past 40 to have kids is known to be one of the risk factors. >>534412982It's very obvious to anyone who works in education that some 'autistic' children are the product of parents pressuring doctors for a diagnosis so they can access resources set aside for kids with learning disabilities. Sure, little Timmy gets a one-on-one and extra time on his exams, but have you thought about what it does to his personal development to carry around the label 'autistic'? Nope. It just made it easier for you to deal with him when he was six and had too much energy. Well okay then.
>>534410708A doctor on a radio show is very different to an actual scientific study.>so if they don't listen to parents when they say "my kid got autism right after taking the vaccine", how would they ever get data showing a link between autism and vaccines?Because they take samples of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of children, and use their medical records to see whether they have had their vaccines, and whether they have been diagnosed with autism. It's a big undertaking and it needs someone who's well-versed in statistics (which is one of the most surprisingly complicated branches of mathematics), but that's what it comes down to.The question of 'do kids who have their vaccines get autism more often than kids who don't' has been well-researched, and the answer is a clear 'no'. Like >>534411279 said, if parents notice autism symptoms develop right after their kids got the vaccine that doesn't necessarily mean there's a causal link between the two; kids just get their vaccines around the age that autism symptoms develop. To see if there's an actual pattern or if it's just a coincidence, you do the large-scale statistic analysis and see if the pattern holds, and it's very clear that it doesn't.Furthermore the guy who originally suggested the link between autism and vaccines - a British doctor called Andrew Wakefield - turned out to have bullshitted a lot of his research. It's one of the greatest modern tragedies that one man's hunger for money and fame has led to thousands of children around the world dying from completely preventable diseases.
Average maternal age is rising. Having kids at 35+ puts them at a higher risk for autism, which was uncommon 50 years ago because people could afford to have kids young and feminism wasn’t encouraging women to avoid family like the plague.
>>534414510What makes me not believe you is 1) no alternative cause proposed by the establishment and 2) the fact that kt has to be something about modernity, whether that's parental age, vaccines, or indistrial chemicals (but I repeat myself). Monied interests are no doubt behind suppressing the real cause.Medfags very vehemently deny its vaccines. Almost as if they have personal stakes in the matter. After all if it has been the vaccines, or ingredients therein, medfags would take most of the public wrath. Which makes vaccines the likely culprits since more people have more to lose of its been covered up thats it is that.Tldr dont tell me what its not if youre not prepared to tell me what it is
Until recently - many childhood and multi-dose shots had MERCURY in them. "Oh yes, Ethyl-mercury is safer than methyl-mercury" - except when we have foreign universities submitting evidence it isn't. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31841767/It passes the blood brain barrier, and converts to inorganic mercury.COVID woke a lot of people who would have otherwise kept up with the vaccine schedule. I didn't take a mRNA vaccine (Fuck the boomers - even if me refusing it killed a million boomers - that's worth it). My kids will be taking exactly ZERO vaccines, won't be circumcised, won't be having any MRI contrast agents, and will learn WW2 starting from Mein Kampf. If my refusal to vaccinate my kids kills a few boomers or immunocompromised midwits - that's a tradeoff I'm more than happy to accept.Fuck this retarded jew-world.
>>534415914>>534415789A kid who is shy or throws a tantrum at the dinner table isn’t autistic
>>534416145I never said they were. I question the logic of retarded white women jabbing their children with a substance they themselves haven't taken.
>>534415793>1) no alternative cause proposed by the establishment>Tldr dont tell me what its not if youre not prepared to tell me what it isI literally laid out the explanation right there >>534414130>Medfags very vehemently deny its vaccines. Almost as if they have personal stakes in the matterOr maybe it's because they don't like watching children die.>After all if it has been the vaccines, or ingredients therein, medfags would take most of the public wrath. Which makes vaccines the likely culprits since more people have more to lose of its been covered up thats it is that.This is such specious reasoning. You could equally say it's pollution from cars since almost everyone drives a car and more people would have more to lose if it turned out the auto industry and oil companies had been giving everyone autism. People like you always have arguments like 'well do you think pharma companies *wouldn't* poison kids to make a buck', and 'if doctors were responsible for giving kids autism, do you think they'd tell us?'. You are very good at creating all kinds of suspicion and blowing smoke, but at the end of the day, you never present any actual evidence. It's all just innuendo.Don't trust the many scientific studies that have been done on the subject? Fine, do your own studies. Do rigorous, peer-reviewed science that proves a causal link between vaccines and autism. Then when you've done that, you can tell people what is and isn't safe for their kids. But until then, I can see no reason why anyone should give a damn what you people say about anything.>>534415914Did you have some sort of bet about the number of stereotypes of anti-vaxxers you can cram into one post?
>>534409763Autism = high IQpeople are getting smarter
>>534418636I'm sure your studies are proper double blind studies with fully unvaccinated control groups (yeah you found parents of unvaccincated kids willing to have them take a poke with unknown contents. For science. Sure.)
>>534410136It's also very beneficial for the "patients" themselves..."Fuck being a decent human being, I HAVE A DISEASE!"A friend's daughter has BPD and she's essentially a giant asshole. In earlier days, her father, mother boyfriend or husband would've slapped some sense into her, this reducing the benefit of being "sick".
>>534413502I always find the headphones thing funny because I've basically come to see it as people loudly announcing they're fucking retarded.
I think real autism (not Somali/welfare scam autism) is a natural mechanism to return humans to a mean intelligence. Most clinical autism occurs in high intelligence parents. Whatever genetic mechanism controls for intelligence seems to warp back on itself and cause retards when you try to stat-stack. High intelligence men should be paired with dumb bimbos, and high intelligence women should pair with artists/musicians. When PhDs marry each other, they almost always have autistic kids. The increase in autism population is from concentrating high intelligence individuals in university settings where they are more likely to pair.
>>534409763Here's your answer. TL;DR: it's childhood vaccines.