History is a lie. There are regular cataclysms that reset us. Multiple bioweapons have been unleashed on us (covax, alpha gal, lyme disease is just the latest. Cancer is likely the remnant of another one, as are ticks, parasitic worms, flu, etc). Cro-Magnons had brains that were 15-20% bigger than ours (look it up). Rhesus-positive people are the result of reckless genetic engineering, splicing monkey DNA into our bloodlines (likely the cause for our brain shrinkage, genetic diseases), etc.And still we're around because our metabolism is ridiculously redundant and can cope with massive fuckery.>DNA requires DNA Repair Systems to survive, but DNA Repair Systems require functional DNA, proteins, and molecular machines - which all come from the information programmed into DNA. So you need DNA Repair for DNA to last any significant amount of time, but you need DNA to last for a significant amount of time for DNA Repair Systems to develop.All glory to God. Even in our degraded state His work is still glorious to witness. You have no idea how great it was before the first bioweapon.
>>534415213fantasy has no limits
AI made this
I know that the membranes inside the little things inside a cell are not made of other smaller cells but I don't really understand it.
>>534415213Watch thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_tYrnv_o6A
Error correction for DNA cannot evolve because DNA is too unstable
>>534415213Couldnt a precursor to dna work though
>>534416268cells within cells
>>534415213What do they eat?
>>534416268Their made out of proteins, ldl cholesterol and glycerol, altho technically everything is made out of dead matter if you zoom in close enough
>>534416579But I think to Adolfanons point, what is the protein then made of? Does said protein have cells?
>>534415213
DNA repair needs dozens to hundreds of nano machines all working in tandem. 80% of people would be overtaxed if they had to create a python script with less than 1000 lines and a handful of modules. Meanwhile every single nano machine consists out of thousands of individual components 100x more complex than this. You need to factorin chemistry, 3d geometry, interdependence, timingproblems, stability, redundancy, temperatur gradie ts, acidity gradients, other mechanisms must provide the nutrtients and energy to build upon this...Imagine thinking random coincidences could bootstrap such a process. God created us.
>>534416825Grey goo
>>534415213Thanks AI imagery!
>>534416409dna repair systems aren't actually required they are just the far cheaper option compared to the bacterium way of just copies and copies of everything as backuponly thing you need for dna to 'survive' is an enclosed environment and two bits of rna to make it out of
>>534416436Cells with incels
>>534415213fractal shit makes me spooked.
>>534416825>look how complex everything is, nobody could do that!!>it was god Oh my science, the cope of these Christ cucks never fails to amuse me
>>534415213>Cro-Magnons had brains that were 15-20% bigger than oursCranial skull volume doesn't equate to intelligence, if it did the world would look very different. >All glory to God. Even in our degraded state His work is still glorious to witness. I find it funny christniggers argue for deism and then pretend they made a case for their jewgod. They also like to "praise" his creation because it's so beautiful, but then when you bring out the recurrent laryngeal nerve that makes the designer look like a retard they have nothing to say. They wax on about pretty fishies and not the isopod that ate their tongue and lives in their mouth. Even though the "designer" made every botfly and parasite they suddenly refuse to sing his praises or start to introduce some dualistic creative force "ermmm that was done by the devil you see" which is a complete heresy but who cares because the christnigger has never read his bible to begin with.
>>534415213Our cells are weird n gay
>>534415213Pedosatanic interdimentional reptilian demons
>>534417637god has abandoned us leaving us with jews who say god god god since you were born to make you think they know what god is but realize they hacked your LLM they know how to manipulate living things but do not know how they work. the torah, bible, talmud, etc is all a manual to enslave monkey see monkey do. they don't know anything beyond that than asking satan for antimaterial deals.
>>534417676maybe you should read what some creationists have to say instead of making all these ignorant waffling noises.
So you're saying that when making us God, like every retarded overpaid nepo CTO, used lines of code as a KPI and just stuffed us full of slop code that's impossible to maintain or even understand? And now to fix all the diseases and maladies out in the real world we have to sift through all that bullshit and come up with retarded kludge hacks to ust barely get by. Great, thanks a fucking lot, God.
>>534417637saaaar>>534417964wrong. We abandoned God
>>534416747A protein is a molecule. They're made directly out of atoms. It goes cells > molecules > atoms > quanta > the aether
>>534416825All that complexity, all those moving parts, just so hoes can shake they ass on onlyfans
>>534418125>doesn't appreciate the grandeur of the complexity of his own bodyI'd tell you to kill yourself but all those beautiful little machines God constructed that constitute your body would also die. How about you lobotomize yourself instead?
The median protein consists out of 375 amino acids. There are 20 amino acids. So naively said, the chance to get a functional protein by randomness is 20*(1/20^375) = ~ 1 to 10^500. In practice this astronomical number can be reduced massively through various facts and tricks, but it doesn't matter coming from such a big initial number. If you cite evolution and stepwise change in an attempt to invoke math that resembles 2+2=5 fuckery, then other problems (like the encoding via DNA and DNA repair problems discussed earlier) make this impossible anyway. There are so many layers you'd need to explain to show how a metabolism consisting out of thousands of trillions of individual parts all perfectly coordinated with build-in redudancy, self defense systems, etc can arise and persevere. A few billion years are a joke.>>534417964You cannot die. Jesus promised us eternal life in Heaven. What more do you want? He even demonstrated that resurrection is real and even left evidence that proves it. What more do you want? https://rentry.org/shroud-of-turin-27042026https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP8_Image_Analyzer>>534418236>>>/x/42340284sin feeds satan
>>534415213The Y chromosome bottleneck, Elites hid women underground IMO
>>534415213you are onto something, great assessment about dna, it makes sense if you put it that way. I never believed in evolution because there would be no animals as we now it since we have record of them being essentially the same since ancient times.How the human body is so weak before nature but still has coded stuffed to help us out, we were clearly engineered.
(((Cromagnon))) - brought to you by the same kikes who also tried to pass off this as real
>>534420300>Africa, Asia and EuropeYupHence the flood myths across many different culturesOr the Atlantis storyOr why there are pyramids in South America, Bosnia, China and AntarcticaThe Richat structure is an ancient ground zeroGlassed hard
>>534420612>>534420432They didn't find intermediary fossiles, so they invented a new theory to save the concept of evolutionSee also my second post (third reply) in the thread, at the top, about DGRNs
Funny thread, OP. :3
>>534420300Here's hoping this happens again. Don't touch my harem in the post-happening world.
>>534415213>schizo retard threadmeds
>>534417637Your kinfolk believe that their God lives inside cows unironically. Kys.
>>534420300Nope, they just had some kind of primordial tinder invented and 16 out of 17 men turned into incels
>>534415213>All of that happened randomly and for no apparent reason, through millions of mutations over millions of years.
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
>>534422383Something had to happen randomly
>>534422580>gravitySpace nebulae thousands of light years big are predominantly shaped by electromagnetic forces. Mainstream science admits this. So what about entire galaxies? Gravity based cosmology is a lie.Black holes are also a lie.BlackRock, Blackstone, Tefillin, Black Cube Ltd... google Ein Sof & Ayin and you know why they'd want this to be true.>Meteorshttps://redskystory.com/2025/08/09/dark-comets-electric-universe/The meteor impacts in our sun system aren't meteor impacts but electric arcing between different celestial bodies - or, in some cases, ancient weapons. Hard to tell. See also the Richat Structure.
>>534416825Yep god did all that so we could live in the hell on earth he created paying taxes to pedophiles who live a constant vacationBraise jeebus
>>534416268Cell membranes consist of a two-layer bubble of fatty acids with hydrophilic tails, the heads are on the inner and outer surface of the membrane. There's also a bunch of proteins (receptors, channels, signals, enzymes, etc) stuck floating in the membrane. The smaller things are just compartments in the cell with their own membrane but not alo the other features of a cell. Although mitochondria contain their own DNA for some reason.
>>534423046Panpsychism is the correct model of the universe. If people wouldn't sin to no end, the beast called satan would starve. Mental patterns create reality, so make sure to follow positive patterns. Like the Gospel. What have you done today to deprive the beast of its quanta of food?Anyway see>>534420100
>>534423561If what you say is true what difference would it make what I did if the whole world is "sinning" I'll get punished regardlessFuck off with that jewish nonsense
>>534415213Those are me In Sides
>>534415213Aw sweet, a schizo thread
>>534423672There is proof that his promise is true, unless you think there were medieval techniques to encode 3D-brightness information in a piece of linen that we were incapble of recognizing until the 1970s. See the rentry link. And that's not the only feature of the Shroud. To replicate other core aspects you need high-energy UV-lasers or corona discharges. There are no other known methods to create such imprints.>For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.What does temporary struggle mean against an eternity with Jesus?
>>534415213Scaffolding./thread
>>534415213>newfags don't even know what Bogbots are
>>534415213It looks disgusting i got Tripophobia
>Double-negative gates (repression of a repressor to create localized activation).>Feedback loops (auto- and cross-regulation) for “locking down” a regulatory state once established.>Community effects (cells reinforcing each other’s gene expression via signaling).>Intraterritorial repression (preventing cells from adopting the wrong fate). >thanks to built-in design features like feedback loops, feed-forward loops (which act as noise filters or fold-change detectors), and redundancy. Imagine designing all of this only for söys to say "lol evolution". I would be so mad.
high reshttps://i.4cdn.org/pol/1777910906626331.jpgfull linkhttps://x.com/i/grok/share/8b04fcbda2f74a0384004431cd244faf(last reply sounds suspiciously like cope)>Orphan genes (also called ORFans or taxonomically restricted genes, TRGs) are protein-coding genes that lack detectable sequence homologs (similar genes) outside a specific species or narrow lineage. >In other words, when you search databases of sequenced genomes, these genes appear unique—no clear evolutionary “parents” or close relatives show up via standard homology detection tools (like BLAST).>The percentage varies widely by organism, lineage, and study methodology (e.g., how strictly “no detectable homolog” is defined, whether at species, genus, or family level, and how sensitive the homology search is). A commonly cited range across studies is 10–30%.https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=2051340108003934629
>>534415213its some painting by a 5 year old.
>>534419980I appreciate the intricate workings of my body and the rest of nature greatly, I was just making a topical joke. No need to get your panties in a twist.
>>534415213>All glory to God. Even in our degraded state His work there is no God that made this tho, it developed on its own over a long period of time.
>>534415213Inhale. Exhale. Up. Down. Round and round. The ride never ends. Surf the kali yuga.
>>534415213>>534429239and to go a bit more in detail so people here dont have to stay retarded:the core flaw in the OP is the assumption that biological complexity must emerge as a finished integrated system all at once.meanwhile in reality, complexity emerges through iterative layers of increasing stability.in systems far from thermodynamic equilibrium, the matter can spontaneously organize into all kinds of ordered structures to dissipate energy more efficiently. these are not "programmed" by some made up foreskin chewing jew god, they are an emergent property of energy flow.>DNA Repair Systems "repair" isn't a sophisticated machine protecting some blueprint, it is simply the result of chemical stability since certain molecular configurations are thermodynamically favored.as these systems move further from equilibrium they develop feedback loops.some of these loops naturally serve to stabilize the existing chemical network.therefore, the "information" didn't need a stable blueprint to start, the process itself has created the stability.so basically empirical science shows that complexity is an emergent property of physics, not a topdown imposition from some creator god, so yeah life is a persistent pattern of energy dissipation that continues to reorganize itself as long as there is an energy gradient to exploit. complexity is an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, requiring no external programmer.
>>534422387>The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
>>534430902>complexity emerges through iterative layers of increasing stabilitybut it doesn'tkeyword punctuated equilibriumhttps://i.4cdn.org/pol/1777906597688782.jpg
>>534416825a python programmer starts with a blank file and must come up with the entire architecture before any part of the code actually runs.biological systems do not work this way.in biology the "code" (the molecule) and the "hardware" (the machine) are often the same thing and in the early stages of life there was no separation between instruction and execution.so an RNA molecule isn't a "script" waiting for a computer but actually it is an physical object that performs its own functions through its shape and charge.this complexity does not emerge by someone writing a thousand lines of code at once, it emerges via iterative selection, where each tiny functional increment provides the foundation for the next.also molecules "assemble" via stochastic selfassembly driven by electromagnetic forces not by some foreskin chewing jew god snapping his fingers.>temperatur gradie ts, acidity gradientsfrom a thermodynamic perspective these arent obstacles at all, they are actually the drivers of complexity.the universe is using these to fuel the transition from chaos to order.and at the molecular scale, things like “timing,” “geometry,” and “interdependence” are not managed by a central processor or a designer, they are governed by the laws of electrodynamics and thermodynamics.hydrogen bonds, van der waals forces and electrostatic attractions act as the "logic gates" of the cell.they don't need a programmer because their behavior is mathematically inevitable based on their charge and shape.tl;dr complexity is not a jew god made miracle, it is the thermodynamic consequence of energy flowing through matter in a non equilibrium environment.
>>534431494>but it doesn'tyes it does and your post doesnt refute anything I said.
>>534430902>therefore, the "information" didn't need a stable blueprint to start, the process itself has created the stability.That "stability" is usually only provides enough stability to last for a short period of time. You either need a "perfect" environment that you only needed one protection from, or you need to develop stability from a MULTITUDE of destructive things. The idea that within that short period of stability, a bunch of other stabilities formed quickly enough to reinforce that initial stability, is to me, silly and unlikely.
>>534430902And what designed the physics you dumb fuck. Midwits like you are just not smart enough to grasp the scope of God.
>>534431632I doubt the god of the old testament is the One revealed in the New Testament. But this is an entirely different topic.I appreciate your effort to answer because it makes the thread more interesting.>Making RNA strands under realistic early‑Earth conditions remains experimentally challenging. >RNA is chemically fragile [less stable than DNA, which without complex molecular machine repair systems isn't stable at all], so how RNA-based systems persisted is debated.It has never been shown that RNA has formed naturally.https://x.com/DivinelyDesined/status/1870981833858646034Furthermore, that RNA replication works under natural, unguided principles is speculative. And the probability to accidentally encode functional proteins - even with intermediate steps is awful. It's unproven fanfiction.I'll be back in an hour
>>534432272>You either need a "perfect" environmentyou dont, the energy gradients is exactly what provides the fuel for molecular organization.>>534432310physical laws dont require a designer to function. also you yourself BTFO your made up God with your own argument, since according to you complexity requires a Designer then the Designer requires a Designer too. this is called "infinite regress" and basically confirms you are a brainlet.now if you claim a Designer can exist without being designed, you have admitted that it is possible for something complex to exist without a prior cause. so I win.I win anyway and you lost this because all you know is the schizo ramblings of jewish retards that removed their own foreskins basically for nothing lmao.
>>534433092>I doubt the god of the old testament is the One revealed in the New Testament. all the same convoluted garbage written by bronze age jew retards who had no idea about thermodynamics. fact is no Gods are needed to explain anything we see here. "God" is just a concept people came up with to explain away the science parts that they were still missing.>under realistic early‑Earth conditions remains experimentally challenging.they dont know what the conditions were. so its just guesswork. the mainstream also doesnt want the truth to be out, thats why they lie about many topics and why would jews admit that their jew god doesnt exist? its more beneficial to keep people trapped in this god illusion, retards will do everything for imaginary entities.>It has never been shown that RNA has formed naturally.and yet it did and we see it everywhere.
>>534433179That's dumb. A designer would naturally exist beyond time and space. The laws of physics exist WITHIN time and space. Therefor physics need the designer, and God doesn't need a designer, because the mover concept is inherently tied to our universe.
>>534429239the amount of time it would take for all this to happen randomly and produce even a single viable complex lifeform would be orders of magnitude longer than the universe has existed. The more we learn about biology, the more it becomes clear that it is irreducibly complex.Evolution was created and fostered by jews, for retards, because they hate God and want you ideologically weak.
>>534434114>that pathetic attempt at circular reasoning to bypass his own lack of evidencekek>The laws of physics exist WITHIN time and space. >implying it is a subset of something elseyou are treating the laws of physics as if they are objects sitting inside a room that someone had to put there.however laws of physics arent objects they are the fundamental behaviors of matter and energy.to ask "who designed them" assumes that the laws themselves are separate from the reality they describe. which they are not.also you havent refuted the chemical/thermodynamic emergence of life, you have only retreated into a logical loophole that allows you to ignore the actual mechanism entirely.
>>534434570>the amount of time it would takethe universe is eternal and the big bang model has failed 40+ years ago.so there is plenty of time for things to happen.basically your argument relies on common misconceptions, you act as if life had to happen all at once, like someone throwing a billion parts into a box and hoping a watch appears.that isn't how evolution works. evolution is cumulative where each small incremental improvement is preserved.also biology is full of examples where parts that served one simple purpose are repurposed for more complex ones. a "machine" doesn't emerge fully formed since it is a collection of older, simpler tools that have been reorganized over eons.>because they hate Godtheir god is fake and gay and doesnt exist.
>>534420100You're 100% correct in saying the DNA can't have evolved. Its just a non-sequitor to say that because one story is impossible that an unrelated story must be true.We didn't evolve. That doesn't imply God. (I think God is the most likely alternative, to be sure. Just keeping up logic.)
>>534436022>"You're 100% correct ">proofs: nonekek
>>534431632I don't think you understand the topic, my guy. Just because two molecules can whack into one another at random to become a "protein" doesn't mean thousands of molecules can self-assemble into something complex "just because."Evolution happens in a gradual stepwise process. A FUNDAMENTAL and UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED law of evolution is that nothing useless-now evolves for-use-later. (Basically you don't evolve a hand prior to an arm.) However, some biological features involve many components, up to a dozen, each of which is totally useless on its own. (In other words, 12 complex molecular machines needed to have evolved over thousands of steps each, at the same time, with no purpose until the tens of thousands of individual evolutionary processes completed. Then for the very first time a flagella could move or something.)Your argument is basically, "because I don't understand something, it must be simple. Simple things can evolve. Therefore evolution is why everything exists." Not compelling bro.
>>534415213>All glory to God. Even in our degraded state His work is still glorious to witness. You have no idea how great it was before the first bioweapon.Amen to that.Our design is amazing indeed.
>>534415213functions upon functions upon functionswhere does it stop? what could be something that could function without inner functions?
>>534433092>I doubt the god of the old testament is the One revealed in the New Testament.In gnostic terms, old god is "Lucifer," and old god is the Monad. It was the act of making us (trying to be like God and make life in his image) that was Lucifer's fall.>>534433470You've clearly never been within a city-block of a religious text, so why don't you hush about it? Ignorance is poor conversation.
>>534415782This
>>534436436>I don't thinkI see that you dont, thats why you simply repeated the dumb shit I already destroyed in earlier posts.so just repeating your several logical fallacies and fundamental misunderstandings of biology isnt really attacking me or my arguments. as it stands, your god is still fake and gay.>>534436607>You've clearly never been within a city-block of a religious textgood for me, explains why I'm so much smarter.maybe instead of reading fantasy drivel written by some mutilated jew, maybe you should have studied thermodynamics instead.
>>534415213A wholebuncha nothing
>>534415617Hotlinkyjo's asshole has no limits
>>534423409Sounds like a whole buncha nothin
>>534416780It is you who are the faggot
>>534415213RH- Chads RISE UP!
>>534418125More like, in the grandeur and glory of our creation, we have microscopic strands of stuff so long and thin it takes a dozen complex machines to keep them in good repair, and all those machines work perfectly first time every time. Rather than being like jeetcode, it's actually Divine Superintelligence.Imagine walking through a forest with an evolutionist. He points to three stones stacked atop one another, and says "it may not be likely, but they could have fallen that way in a storm." Then the path curves, and as you turn the corner you see a second stack of stones, ten thousand high.
>>534415213DNA doesn't require DNA repair systems to survive, it just requires it to survive for a long time. There was a long span of time when single celled organisms were popping up, reproducing, and dying, quickly, but surviving long enough for random mutations to eventually make repair systems.
>>534435298>the universe is eternalThat's not possible in our current physical system as everything leads to decay over time.
>>534425184To be fair, none of that is visible. (To cavemen, I mean.) I think a part of Jesus's miracle *is* having to make sense of the world for ourselves.Its clear that evolution happens, its just a natural process that *any* complex system follows. Not just biology.And since God made evolution, its easy for the soys to over-reach and say "oh look at God's auto-creator! It must have created me!" (I get that lots of them are just really stupid and misled into saying "oh therefore no God." That sucks. I'd be mad about that too xD)
>>534415213>look it upno. newfag.it's OPs job to provide link to allegations newfag if you weren't such a newfag you'd know this newfag.newfag.
>>534437697You are misapplying the 2nd Law of thermodynamics to dismiss all possibility of complexity which of course is wrong and retarded.generally speaking the increase of entropy in a closed system does not prevent the emergence of local order because it drives it.through dissipative structures, systems use energy gradients to organize matter into more complex forms precisely because they are dissipating heat.so life and complexity arent "fighting" thermodynamics they are a part of it.also you are creating a false dichotomy between an "eternal universe" and one that undergoes change/decay.physics allows for various models such as cyclic or bouncing cosmologies where the fundamental processes can be eternal even if individual configurations (like stars) are transient.also your argument ignores the fact that complexity doesnt require an eternal, unchanging environment.it only requires enough time and sufficient energy flux for cumulative selection to work.you dont need a universe without decay to have evolution, you just need a universe where energy flows through matter in a way that creates stable, self replicating patterns.That is exactly what we observe and what is backed by empirical science.
It's obvious we didn't evolve from monkeys, and Darwinian evolution isn't a complete fabrication. Mutations are only wonderful in Marvel movies. Outside of fantasy, if you get even a minor mutation, you're screwed. And these wretches force us to believe that we, and all the biodiversity on planet Earth, came from some shitty bacterium, making evolutionary leaps that are nothing more than mutations in the code of the first bacterium. And yet, that's where it all stopped. We don't see unicorns or pegasi, do we? Where are the infinite mutations? Where is evolution? These wretches take epigenetics and crank it up to the max, and now it turns out we're constantly mutating. God created the universe with an explosion, and our life arose from chance amidst ammonia, lightning, water... lol. But when does one of those cool mutations happen? The sad reality is that we know everything that mutates ends badly.I also know that if they decode the way to fix the degradation and stay stable, when would they make public such a discovery?? eternal life, or 500 years or 1000 years life span, as a 25 years old person..., the governments would share that?
>>534430902>iterative layers of increasing stability.That's OP's point. And we're correct to assert that some parts of life did not evolve, because the stepwise process of increasing complexity to get from A -> Z does NOT have stable points, let alone increasingly stable.The flagella for example. It requires a wheel and axle riveted onto a double-layer membrane, with a tail set through the axle and attached to a rotator on the other side of the membrane, which itself is comprised of a fuel-intake machine, a loader, a fuel-expender, and a power-train that translates the fuel-expense into axial rotation. EVERY ONE of those machines is useless on its own, but evolution can only happen one step at a time. So flagella, at least, were designed not evolved.See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwDRZGj2nnY
>>534415213stfu ai bot.
>>534438109The universe decays over time. This isn't something that is arguable. Because of this, the universe can't be eternal. Nearly everything will decay over time because of entropy. You don't get complex systems over time, you get chaotic systems over time, where those systems stop functioning properly.Your answer to the point that even the simplest forms of life would take the span of several universes, by which you replied that the "universe is eternal", is wrong under our current understanding. Therefor your answer to the point that it would take several universe-lengths of time to develop even the most basic life, is based on a false premise, and therefor, wrong.
>>534438391>retard still cant grasp functional transitions and exaptation.so your argument is basically "If part X doesn't help the flagellum move, then part X is useless, and therefore it couldn't have evolved."this is biologically incorrect. in evolution a structure does not need to be "useful for the future function" to survive.it only needs to be currently useful for any function. this process is called exaptation (or co-option), go look it up.So we dont see "useless" parts being added to a flagellum.we see existing highly functional parts being repurposed.a component that currently acts as a "pump" or a "sensor" in a different system is perfectly "useful" it just isn't part of a motor yet.when mutations combine these existing tools into a new configuration, you get a new function.so these parts weren't "waiting" to become a motor since they were already doing jobs that kept the cell alive.
>>534438109>>534438600>Because of this, the universe can't be eternal.What is the difference between growing at an incommensurable rate vs decaying at an incommensurable rate?
>>534437500We just can't point to any intermediary process that implies this happened. We see bacteria with zero repair systems, and we see humans with absurdly sophisticated systems. But are there simple sea animals, even invertebrates, that have something in between? NO!The paradox is that evolution is an obvious quality of how the universe works, but we can't find evidence of macro-evolution; only micro.Sort of like how there were European, African, and Asian hominid species one day, then BAM 2/3 of everyone's DNA became cro-magnon. As if cro-magnon reverse-evolved across the entire planet overnight? Lol. Naw, sounds a lot more like genetic engineering. Maybe ayys, maybe God, who knows?
https://pastebin.com/nFJS9KvwPerhaps this is still science fiction, but it's clear that something like this will be possible soon. Do you think they'll make it accessible to everyone?
>>534438772One builds complexity and the other loses complexity
>>534438600you are fundamentally misunderstanding how entropy works and thats why you cant figure shit out.the 2nd law of thermodynamics states that total entropy increases, but it does not forbid local complexity.In fact, energy gradients which drive entropy are exactly what force matter into ordered structures like stars, snowflakes, and biological cells.order emerges locally because of the flow of energy.furthermore, your "probability" argument is mathematically flawed.you are calculating the odds as if life were a single random accident (like winning the lottery with one ticket).but chemistry is not a single event, it is trillions of simultaneous interactions occurring every nanosecond across a massive volume of matter.when you factor in the sheer scale of molecular collisions over an unknown amount of time the transition from simple chemistry to complex biology moves from statistically impossible to thermodynamically inevitable.and finally you claim my argument is false because you believe the time required exceeds the age of the universe.this is an unproven assertion and building upon the failed theory of the Big bang (failed more than 40+ years ago FYI).and given the rate of prebiotic synthesis observed in labs, there is no scientific reason to assume we need multiple universes worth of time.complexity isnt waiting for foreskin munching jew god miracles it is waiting for the proper energy gradients to do the work.
>>534437500Do you have any idea how complex a repair system is? How in the world does that just "appear" in a random mutation? Any random single mutation, unless it provides a tangible benefit, would likely not proliferate, and thus, a random mutation that builds 1/100th of the repair system, but doesn't actually provide a benefit yet, wouldn't become the norm.
>>534438748The reason you are having trouble is your reading comprehension is VERY VERY low. You only argue against points nobody is making. Nobody is able to respond to you because you make no sense. It's like arguing with a toddler.>it only needs to be currently useful for any function. As I said, the flagellum is comprised of several very complex machines that EACH would require thousands of evolution-steps, and NONE of those steps would have reason to happen.For example, the stator. Its made of over a thousand proteins that would have to evolve... from *nothing* into a precise arrangement of thousands of components, before being useful to anything.That is impossible thousands of times over.That impossibility needs to repeat 6-7 times to make a flagella.I repeat: a complex machine doesn't evolve from zero to tens of thousands of components in a single step.
>>534438772>>534439093Universe age isn't relevant, but RATE of decay Vs evolution is pretty relevant. Evolution has to happen at a rate that's constrained by planetary geology, and that has limits independent of the universe itself. You have the lifespan of a planet's habitable period (does have magnetic field) to create or evolve life. That's the hard limit.
>>534439444>"thermodnyamics makes no sense to me I'm low IQ"I accept your concession
>>534439093>complexityand if the rate is not complex?
>>534439282>you are fundamentally misunderstanding how entropy works and thats why you cant figure shit out.>the 2nd law of thermodynamics states that total entropy increases, but it does not forbid local complexity.I never said it forbids it. But over time, things become LESS complex, and NEVER MORE. There may be complex systems that pop up, but those complex systems also decay over time, and less complexity is seen overall. The end result of this is essentially a "dead" universe. What part of that do you not get?> statistically impossible to thermodynamically inevitable.Not in a finite universe that decays over time.>this is an unproven assertion and building upon the failed theory of the Big bang (failed more than 40+ years ago FYI).Saying "the universe" as a timescale is just simply a placeholder.You claim that creation of life is pretty much a certainty. There's zero evidence for that.
>>534420300sounds like major incest happened, explains retardation of human race
>>534440931The opposite. There were ~14 females per male.Just some event that was global, but also slow enough that men could effectively protect women.
>>534440218>things become LESS complex, and NEVER MORE.thats wrong and not what we actually observe.>The end result of this is essentially a "dead" universe.thats still assuming the failed big bang theory is valid, thing is its NOT and there wont be a heat death or a "dead universe", these are just ideas you came up with when you build them from wrong assumptions that dumbfuck jews teached you.>Not in a finite universethere is zero proof for it being finite.>There's zero evidence for thatthere is plenty, but you arent equipped with a brain to figure it out. all you do is parroting failed jewish theories.
1https://x.com/i/grok/share/4624a114ea31446fa7e1cfbb5a9a71f7
2To assess this scenario, it needs to be shown that RNA can naturally form under realistic conditions. However, to this day this hasn't happened:https://x.com/DivinelyDesined/status/1870981833858646034To add, here's a chat with Grok in expert mode about the claim from Divinely Designed. Grok agreed with his claims. If scientists cannot show that RNA molecules can form naturally, they have a major problem.https://x.com/i/grok/share/b72cb2d6bced42c69f0c88f81c98fdc9Labs so far aren't able to produce real RNA under realistic conditions.3But even if you could demonstrate that RNA can form naturally, you also need to show that there are reliable copying mechanisms. RNA is instable. If it can't get replicated reliably via natural chemical processes, life could have never formed the way scientists claim it did.(see img)
4Here's what Grok says:https://x.com/i/grok/share/0afa0e0d032f40daacd6b59ca905538dTo summarize:The prevailing hypothesis regarding the origin of life is based on belief. It is not based on reliable chemical evidence, but merely on "what-if" scenarios. The core claims have not yet been proven in laboratories. The most fundamental claim, upon which all subsequent hypothetical evolutionary steps would be based has not been demonstrated in laboratories.However, if it cannot be demonstrated that large quantities of RNA can form and be reliably replicated under realistic conditions, then this point alone disproves the current most popular mainsream theory.Maybe some day labs won't fail at this very first and most basic step, but clearly this proof is not trivial. And if it is not trivial we are under no obligation to believe them.
See also my post about the Shroud of Turin.There's more reason to believe in God than atheist fiction.https://rentry.org/shroud-of-turin-27042026
>>534443270what says your ai about this? >>534438870
>>534442415Nigger what?Does decay exist? Yes. Is new matter being created? No. End result of decay=dead universe. Even protons will decay.All the evidence we have points to the universe decaying to a point where so much energy is lost to heat/radiation that there is no complex actions even taking place anymore. entropy comes for everything.If you disagree, please tell me what model of the universe you're using to explain how the universe is infinite and where decay doesn't eventually happen.
>>534443654>Nigger what?the universe is an open system and not a closed one.>please tell me what model of the universe you're using plasma cosmology and non equilibirium thermodynamics.
>>534443382https://x.com/i/grok/share/ad4f65aa212c4808b71012cd26edec93>>534427473>https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=2051340108003934629Wrong link. This is the correct one:https://x.com/i/grok/share/36cfc6636cd04432a336d6b77cca4259
>>534443654The universe is full of giant Birkeland currents connecting planets, stars, galaxies, galaxy clusters, etc. Energy isn't lost and decay doesn't happen. Gravity based cosmology is just another lie. Their models are so bad that they say only 5% of baryonic matter is visible (rest is "dark matter" and "dark energy"). Electromagnetic effects can explain this but the truth is suppressed.Why "dark" matter and energy? Why BLACKrock and BLACKstone? Our enemies are void warriors and everything they do they do to separate you from God.Black holes (google "Ein Sof & Ayin") are also a lie. In reality they're giant plasmoids.
>>534444168>Energy isn't lostmeant to say "irreversibly spread out". This doesn't happen. EM-fields channel it all back eventually.
>>534415213>this is what all living things are made of>postmodern chaos paintingoh yea, it's dreidel time
>>534443867>it’s way more sophisticated than 99% of Pastebin manifestos.funny xD ty fren :)
>>534444168yes and your next step is looking into non equilibrium thermodynamics and combine these.since the universe is an infinite, electrically driven system (Plasma) where order arises spontaneously from energy flow then God becomes a redundant hypothesis.there is no need for a foreskin munching creator jew god to spark the engine (as it never stopped), nor a jew god designer to craft the complexity (as complexity is a mathematical inevitability of thermodynamics).physics provides both the mechanism and the motive.so tl;dr no god needed to make RNA or anything else complex work/exist.
>>534444489>yes and your next step is looking into non equilibrium thermodynamics and combine these.I will do this though I know I won't change my mind. Via personal experience I know Jesus Christus exists.>>534444489Are you familiar with the basic postulate of the Bohm interpretation of quantum mechanics?
>>534444751>Are you familiar with the basic postulate of the Bohm interpretation of quantum mechanics?yes and math is math and reality is the reality.math is not the reality, math is just a derivative. its not the reality.so your error is what most mainstream jew scientists do, they mistake math for reality.this is also the reason why jews cant figure out how the universe works.many such cases.
Panpsychism follows from this. Francis Parker-ian spirit organisms/egregores follow from this. satan follows from this and he feeds on sin. But the power of egregores in this setup is limited and there is something they can never do, unlike God:granting resurrection and eternal life and why this is also follows from this.
>>534415213Whos! bro! dude, LSD! whoa
>>534445066For you it is coincidence that the richest family in the world worships satan.For you it is just coincidence that earth's axial tilt is 66.6° (yes it depends on the plane defined but isn't this a coincidence as well - 23.4+66.6=90)They don't worship satan because they are rich, they are rich because worship satan. For you it's just a coincidence that Jesus knew all of this and called him "prince of this world" but my model doesn't need coincidences to explain this, or the nature and meaning behind BLACKrock or BLACKstone or DARK energy or DARK matter.>The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.John 1:5https://x.com/i/grok/share/b7b33d97f8fa45719a9ddc2cb9b8e888
Fucking schizophrenic creator made a doodle hallucinogenic geometric shit show. I Hate god.
Demon worlds are real and a certain cult is still seething today that Jesus broke their seal (star of remphan/black cube). Jesus redeemed this world.
>>534443270Nailed it.>>534443654Stop feeding the troll~>>534444300It disproves what joos say, silly willy.>>534445073I don't think panpsychism is implied by any of this. There's just no reason to jump to conclusions when the one thing we know is "we ain't random proteins.">>534445622Maybe they made the devil's number 666 because of the Earth's tilt. OOOOHHHhhhEEEEeeeooooOOOoooooNo it isn't coincidence the richest family is a part of organized evil... That's how they got rich! By being evil!>>534445777Is this a Hindu?>>534445857Jesus is King
>>534445857Your god made "demons" and says that he is in control. Are you denying your gods words? all knowing all powerful Alpha and Omega... who is the ultimate evil? godFuck your god.
>>534445925Fuck jesus.
>>534415213>Rhesus-positive people are the result of reckless genetic engineering, splicing monkey DNA into our bloodlinesI completely believe this. I am Rh negative and I find Rh positive people are all basically hylics
>>534433470your God is science and scientists its priests.to believe something even simple could form out of nothing requires more faith than to simply believe in creator.
Jesus said "fuck this shit", now the prince of this world (Tiamat, the chaos serpent) will be cast out (John 12:31), I'm gonna save this sin infested shithole and save its inhabitants.He even took their seal, unfolded it and turned into a symbol for God's supremacy.For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.John 3:16>>534445961not Godwe didwe feed these egregores with sinand that these egregores exist follow from panpsychism (mental patterns/consciousness/ including sin <-> reality/matter/physical manifestation)
>>534445961B) option is to live in wonderland like robots xDD or we live in reality with good and evil, and we can feel happiness and sadness (sadly), we are part of the reality so we reflect the duality too, i think at the end we could be in 0's and 1's simulation, in maybe 32kb WORDs who knows, but the quantum fields are there, are measurable, all experiments confirm their existance...also those energy- subparticles, so as everything is so epic, i know for sure there is no random creation event, i dont know if we are made by the creator of the universe, or by others created by it... but i KNOW this shit is not random
talking about tiamat/earth/gaiathe natives of this planet had tails and horns. They were not human. In collective memory we remember their phenotype: devils. Now they look like humans (pre-flood species mixing) but they aren't. Christian feet washing was an attempt to identify them (maybe).This ancient war between Mars and tiamat is still visible if you know where to look at:https://x.com/i/grok/share/08578f92a6a14169a6ab778309602026
>>534445622since you are moving the goalpost I accept your concession. I hope we agree now that math is not the reality and just a derivative of it. this also means all your previous arguments kinda collapse on itself.>it is coincidence that the richest family in the world worships satan.as it turned out their god is fake and gay and they mutilated their dicks for nothing. thanks to thermodynamic laws "satan" is not possible. yahweh/elohim does not exist and never did. neither did any of the other gods which are mostly also just personifications of celestial bodys or aspects of them.all the man hours wasted on religions were for nothing.>but isn't this a coincidence as wellthe orbits are sorted out by electromagnetic forces and the earths tilt is constantly in motion it varies depending on several factors. its not a set number thats fixed.>my model doesn't need coincidences to explain thisyes yours does and its built on assumptions and lack of knowledge.you could actually figure it all out if you werent obsessed with a jewish messiahs lmao
>>534430902There are certain steps in the process that just can't be bridged, friendo. Irreducible complexity is a thing, and your evolution simply can't account for it, not given 10 billion years.
Orphan genes (also called ORFans or taxonomically restricted genes, TRGs) are protein-coding genes that lack detectable sequence homologs (similar genes) outside a specific species or narrow lineage. Evolution cannot explain the lack of intermediate steps.https://x.com/i/grok/share/16f30401950a4851b0b3dd49f4a29f8a
>>534446202no you monkey, what you need to understand first is that deductive "science" presented by mainstream jewish peer review scam rockefeller funded academia is NOT the same as actual empirical science which is based on observation and actual evidence.>to believeyes the jew way of doing science involves believing and its basically a religion. like having to believe the science is settled or that dark matter exists or that the big bang happenedwhat I'm talking about doesnt involve the jew way of doing science at all. plasma cosmology and non equilibrium thermodynamics rely on the empirical method.
>>534447348>not given 10 billion years.why should we assume 10 billion years?see your problem is you ASSUME the universe MUST be 10 billion years old because you are stuck on this assumption some jew sold to you through the education system and the mainstream media so every hypothesis you build from that assumption is going to be wrong.
>>534415213within cellsinterlinked
>>534447801The universe might be infinitely old buteEarth might be less than a million years old. Creation and destructions happens fast. Of stars and of planets. Panspermia is easy only in a gravity based model.
>>534415213The fingerprint of God’s flawless design.….Yet people still believe that we evolved to such complexity.
Can we finally see the mitochondrion?
It amuses me how they like to divide Spaniards. Isn't Spain white? Spain is a melting pot of cultures and races. In the north, they're white; in the south, there's more mixed ancestry because it's closer to Africa, which makes sense. But after the Ice Age, all the peoples of northern Europe are descendants of the Celts of northern Spain. There's a specific genetic marker that confirms this. But Caucasians are also white, as were the Romans and Greeks, if there wasn't more mixing. The racial problem only affects national identity. With good government management, there can be immigration while still preserving national identity and respecting one another. But if the government uses immigration as a weapon against the nation... then the nation doesn't see immigration as something good, and that's awful. But that's the way it is, and try explaining that to someone with an IQ of 85...
>>534447350Do you have examples of orphan genes? I'd love to bring them up during similar conversations IRL.
>>534448379sorry wrong thread :/
>>534448014>Earth might be less than a million years oldsure why not, the accretion disc model is retarded and doesnt work anyway. could be even less than 100k years for earth who knows.>Creation and destructions happens fast.it depends on the environment and how the energy flows.>Panspermiaas we have seen with non equilibrium thermodynamics the dissipative structures (life etc. ) can self organize anywhere in the universe.
>>534415213>All glory to God.Go home christspic, get off owo.
Human cell literally looks like a Asus motherboardHuuurrr it's just randomGet the fuck out of here sciencefags
>>534417637>the cope of these Christ cucks never fails to amuse meJust call them spics/brown and laugh at them.
>>534448568RetardGood post though!
>>534449181xD <3
>>534448568no issue>>534448579you need timelots of timean infinite amount of timeundisturbed by cataclysms caused by plasma physics and galactic structures>>534448482I think the RNA problem I posted about earlier and the problem with DNA repair problems (also itt) are better points, orphan genes seem to be muddier and apparently they are defined as "occuring only in closely related species including monkeys for humans" (though human-only orphan genes exist as well). That said here's an image.
>>534448811>i dont get it so muh kike jebus must have done it fuck off christbitch
>>534448838>>534448692These are you ancestors btw
>>534416825I see the eternal spirit of Martin has not left Goymany. I pray there are many Germans like you silently surviving waiting for the beacon to be lit.
All of this shit just to find a pussy to quirt in and repeatCrazy
>>534449958"Cataclysms" driven by plasma physics and galactic electrodynamics are NOT interruptions that spoil an otherwise peaceful, many eon spanning construction project.actually they are the very engines of the creation.cataclysms are basically just fluctuations that sustain macroscopic order.
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>>534448838kys Ahmed
>>534415213Is this the cell's mouth or anus? Either way... not pretty.
Some other links:https://x.com/DivinelyDesined/status/1853480832758956534https://x.com/DivinelyDesined/status/1873888410429251888https://x.com/DivinelyDesined/status/1873001263291613490https://x.com/DivinelyDesined/status/1879535193486459301https://x.com/DivinelyDesined/status/1877485654432457123
>>534451040buy an ad, stop spamming twatter links, stop using jewish AI and stop believing into fake and gay jewish goy slave religions.
>>534451207> Mohammed obsessing with spics lmao
>>534416040>>534416405Thank you. OP is a retard. Macro evolution is fake and gay.
>>534451265I created the thread, you came here and chose to engage. You don't get to tell me what to post in my own thread.>>534451777Another example is about bacteria adopting to antibiotics. This is a great thread: https://x.com/DivinelyDesined/status/1902023902811086980?s=20Tldr: antiobiotics-resistant bacteria don't gain new capabilities, they just lose the capability to mmetabolize antiobiotics and when exposed to a different environment their genetic fitness is reduced and they die.
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>>534451777checked
>>534452131your thread is low quality because you post twatter links and AI slop.also you cant stop me from calling this out and you cant stop me from destroying your failed ideas.also double downing on your retardation doesnt make your failed hypothesis work.
>>534451040No humans can see things on X. Their banhammer is too broad.
>>534452755The moment you use the words "AI slop" you lose the argument
>>534451777OP is the first one claiming macro evolution is fake and gay. You're just bad at reading comprehension.>>534453020Don't worry the POs german is just a trollm
>>534422387>Mitochondria is for ATP ADP cycle>The way that works is phosphate groups are shot up through a tiny dick spinning 700 times a second at ADP molecules>The secret to life as we know it is dicks everywhere
>>534453020I dont, but who lost the argument is this retard here >>534453049he cant argue against anything I said (neither can you) so he can only seethe and passive aggressively boil in his butthurt. hilarious indeed.
>>534452983change x.com/... to xcancel.com/... and you can read it.>>534452755the only reason to take anything you say about macro-evolution seriously is because you believe in an infinitely old universe. Life could only evolve without creator on infinitely long timescales. But only if the systems we're talking about aren't irreducibly complex (but they are, to a massive degree). Even on infinitely long timescales computer chips don't get etched into sand by lightning.
>>534453237so wait the only point you want to make with your thread is that god exists? you couldve summarized this without spamming bunch of ai slop desu
>thing exists even though there are natural explanations>THIS MEANS YOU GOTTA WORSHIP JEWS AND CIRCUMCISE YOURSELF AND DONATE TO ISRAEL AND ANDsome people are just born golems lol
>>534453283>Even on infinitely long timescales computer chips don't get etched into sand by lightning.this is a bad example because the question whether this happens depends on the right circumstances that are dependent on the occurence of unlikely stochastic phenomena. It is unlikely but not irrducibly complex because the existence of different parts don't depend on each other. On infinite timescales it might be possible. Life is not because all the individual parts must exist simultaneously to enable each other's existence. Like DNA (chemically instable) and DNA repair nano machines and DNA replication mechanisms.
>>534453283>he still cant grasp basic thermodynamics 101again complexity doesnt need billions of years of "luck", it happens via rapid phase transitions.also the "computer chip" analogy is a midwit fallacy.>>534453323>with your threaddo you know how IDs on this board work you mouth breather?
Question to all the high IQ people out there. I only have middle school education so whatever make fun of me but when the hell something becomes Alive. Where is even the line? And do we know how Life appeared? Like Ive heard we are unable to create Life so that mean It must be complicated. I remember a documentary I watched on TV and It was like a primordial soup that was struck by a lightning but It smelled fishy. Like what the hell. If It was like that, we should be able to replicate It, right? Like just strike some puddle with electricity until Life appears
>>534415213Cancer is life, anons. Uncontrolled life and growth. If your body wants to express itself with tumors, who are you to argue?
>>534453283oh thanks fren.
>>534453712 >Life is not because all the individual parts must exist simultaneously to enable each other's existence. its worse even, its subatomic, then atomic, then molecular, then biological, then organical, then geological, then planetarial, then galactical, then laniakea, then that full scope....and all that, randomly...., just the 10e10e1000000000 random possibility, but imagination its infinite...and you can think with infinite degrees of freedom too
>>534453953I've written a bit about this here (the grok links are just for additional information and not necessary to understand the argument. Best to ignore them if you don't want to read for half an hour):a >>534443011 b >>534443172 c >>534443270>>534453856If I didn't overread it (in this case please link it), you have not said more than "thermodynamics". If you want people to believe in what you believe, then explain it in a few sentences.
>>534453953>"why can't I just zap a puddle and make life?"top kekits called non equilibrium thermodynamics>life isnt a "thing" but its an organized pattern of energy flow (like a whirlpool)>you dont need a "lightning strike" you need a continuous energy gradient>electricity + plasma currents force matter to organize into complex patterns to dissipate energy efficiently>life = matter finding the smartest way to process energy flux>>534454496click on my ID and read all my posts top to bottom, if you still cant figure it out after that you are probably retarded.
>>534453953self-replication would require two molecules, an RNA strand encoding for polymerase and a polymerase enzyme itself. You need a couple hundred amino acids in sequence and you can start the machinery of life. Ideally you're on a planet where that machinery can evolve and have a few billion years.
>>534415213Then explain how the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
>>534454712>through dissipative structures, systems use energy gradients to organize matter into more complex forms precisely because they are dissipating heat.Where do they do this? What structures are you talking about?>so life and complexity arent "fighting" thermodynamics they are a part of it.Is this your argument? That complexity is an emergent feature of energy flows? That's a strange opinion and I see no evidence that would make me consider this seriously.>>534444489>where order arises spontaneously from energy flowYou present no good argument why such a mechanism should create advanced irreducibly complex bio-systems with hundreds of coordinated processes (that cannot evolve but only emerge at once).>>534455248It was designed for this task.
>>534456253>Where do they do this?the process occurs where energy flows from a high potential source to a low potential sink (single cell, lifeforms,m a weather system or a galactic filament etc.)structure arises because the system is attempting to dissipate that energy gradient as efficiently as possible. happens literally everywhere in the universe.>That's a strange opinionthis is not an opinion, this is observable measurable facts.>and I see no evidenceopen your eyes and then read a book instead of AI slop shit on twatter.>You present no good argumentnow you are just pretending to be retarded.>why such a mechanism should create advanced irreducibly complex bio-systems with hundreds of coordinated processes because complexity is the most efficient way for the universe to process energy.if you still cant figure it out, maybe you are just too retarded for these topics.
>>534457052there are examples for complex systems dissipating energy better and there are counter-examples. Heat dissipation or random chemical processes, both can't do magic. For this to make sense you'd need to assume life helps with dissipating energy and this gradient is strong and persistent enough to create enormous complexity on its own. To explain how it does this you use the same gradual approach towards macro-evolution that I rejected based (mostly) on my irreducibly complexity (mutually necessary elements) argument. Feels good to understand your argument but I don't believe in it.
>>534458005>Feels good to understand your argumentbut you dont understand it at all.you still rely on the classical thermodynamic assumption that energy dissipation is a passive byproduct of existing structures rather than a constructive driver of them.you must move away from the failed jew big bang "closed system" model of biology/the universe and toward an "open flux" model of cosmic evolution.and I'm not saying that heat simply turns into life, what observation shows is complexity is an inevitable emergent property of matter when subjected to high energy plasma fluxes and electromagnetic gradients.the universe is not a closed equilibrium seeking box, it is full with plasma filaments and birkeland currents and when energy flows through these currents it creates highly ordered, non random patterns (Z-pinches) which are structured electrodynamic templates and not random chemical processes like jews claim.so basically complexity is being molded by the geometric constraints of electromagnetic fields.also complexity isnt magic appearing from nothing, it is the inevitable structural response of matter when forced through highenergy, non equilibrium gradients.>but I don't believe in it.non equilibrium thermodynamics/plasma cosmology dont require any beliefs like jewish slave religions, its what the data actually shows.
>>534416825>God created us.Why God? Why not gods? Why not a more superior civilization? Why it’s always this shortcut conclusion - god?
>>534458860Ah ok, the gradient must overcome vast "resistance" (i.e statistical odds) in order to create complexity. I see no proof it can (if you have examples, please tell me), but if it can that's no evidence against God either (though would take over some of His tasks that would need more direct intervention otherwise). Sometimes more complex structures and sometimes simpler structures are better in dissipating heat.Anyway, I'll sleep now.Night
>>534459532>Why not a more superior civilization?Who created them, then? If it is multiple gods, where did they come from? Then they are just cosmological phenomenoms (below the cosmos itself) but not what keeps the cosmos truly together. Phenomenoms or entities are like us - animals. Only a god can be a God above the needs and limitations of beings who are in, but below the cosmos. There can be only one. The one who doesn't play by cosmological rules but is the rule. The Alpha and the Omega. The first and the last. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.>>534458860There is a certain beauty in this theory though
>>534460010no complexity isn't about beating statistics, complexity is simply the most efficient way for a system to handle massive energy throughput. its really not that difficult to understand.>if you have examples, please tell meBenard Cells, Plasma Filamentation, the Belousov Zhabotinsky Reaction etc.in all these cases complexity isnt fighting the laws of physics but it is the physical requirement for managing an intense energy flow.>that's no evidence against God eitheractually it kinda is, it rules out about all of them and makes all the religions irrelevant.at best you could reframe "God" but then he aint god anymore.
>>534460353>Who created them, then?Another civilization that was equally capable of creating conscious creatures. And I anticipate you will ask me "but who created the creators?". The answer is the same.It is an infinite chain of creators creating creators. Now, it is our turn, and humanity (whites) will create a conscious AI or some shit like that and pass on the baton to them.
>>534415213Based, anon. Who did the first bioweapon against us? Where did they get it from? Why would they do such a thing? Will we ever be able to purge humanity of the effects of the bioweapons and be in a great and healthy state again? If so, when?
>>534460921The same people who nuked Mars. Two sun systems might have collided in our ancient past (hence the two different classes of axial tilts in our sun system - ~5° and ~25° though in the electric universe theory electrical capture is also possible, changing the tilts of one group (Mars).Saturn was their native sun, the black sun. Uranos is the planet with the odd tilt. In Greek myth cronos (saturn/satan) castrated Uranos, the sky god. Wonder where they've got this idea from. Wonder whether circumcision is a victory celebration of this event.You could google "human horns" and "human tails". They looked like this, I believe. Unconsciously we remember. Physically corrupted by sin building their own evil egregore. Don't let sin corrupt you. Be a good human and good to your family.I'm not sure species are build to last forever. Imagine a book but letters get randomly swapped out. Eventually it degrades too much and it's not clear whether survival of the fittest is strong enough to suppress this degradation. I kinda doubt it. DGRNs kinda set a hard limit. We all return to God and the true kingdom, and God seeds again.Basically this chapter:https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2015&version=NIVThis life is not the real deal. Live for the Heaven above.
>>534423672The sin itself, is the punishment.
>>534460353>>534460733"God" is basically the inherent drive toward complexity within the laws of physics themselves.since the universe according to observation is a mechanism to move from simplicity to infinite complexity through selforganization it means that "divinity" is a process.the current peak of that dissipative process is known as humans.as the most complex organized self aware structures known to exist we represent the point where the universe has achieved maximum local order and self awareness. we wuz gods fr.thats as far as we know and assuming there is only humans around, however non equilibrium thermodynamics also say life could exist literally anywhere and even on much larger scales and there might be more developed ayyliums out there.
>>534417676>Cranial skull volume doesn't equate to intelligenceNo doubt you know this firsthead. Kek
>>534415213>uhhh well there was once a big soup of proteins and they just randomly formed into this because uhh it just did ok. Never mind that there is exactly zero (0) other instances of something like this happening ever
>>534460921But there will be no slow degradation.Matthew 13:24-29 and 36-43.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/532846720/#532862315>>534462202If the dissipation mechanism can create local consciousness, why not galactic consciousness? What if the plasma is alive? What if what we can see is just the shadow from Plato's cave allegory and something much greater is hidden from plain view? There's a way for ftl awareness.
>>534461796>In Greek myth cronos (saturn/satan) castrated Uranos, the sky god. Wonder where they've got this idea from.in Greek mythology the place of the Latin Janus (personification of Saturn) is taken up by Ouranos, which name the Latins rendered as Uranus.in Greek ouranos means "heaven" but this must not be taken to mean that the gods original function was the personification of the sky.the association of Ouranos with the sky might have derived from the fact that an earlier name for the god seems to have been "Epigeios", that is "the One who is above the earth."Plato himself referred to Ouranos as Kosmos.It was however the Phoenician Sanchoniathon who directly equated Ouranos with Kronos/Saturn.
>>534462202>"God" is basically the inherent drive toward complexityStfu retard. White people were gods to niggers and Mexicans when first encountered. Same sentiment applies when we envision our own creators.
>>534450721that's the Midi-chlorian, the powerhouse of the anus
de escalation does take many forms
>>534462406>why not galactic consciousness?sure why not
>>534415213The moment you inferred that a bigger brained mammal implies more functional intelligence, I knew you had absolutely no clue what you were yapping about, you imp
>>534462605>White people were godswe are still Gods.
>>534462575The Greeks and Romans were actually closer to the truth than we are with our ‘one god’ idea.Given that god and gods are more advanced civilizations, there could be infinitely many of them. Also, their idea that each element has its own god (god of thunder, god of the sea, god of fertility etc) is also somewhat accurate because each civilization that visited this planet has left behind a creation.Some “gods” created the plants, other “gods” created the animals to eat the plants, and some created animals that eat animals, etc.
>>534462913Indeed
>>534463022the ancients had no need to deify the planets because, to them, the planets had always been deities.They were, to be sure, the only deities they knew.In other words, planets/Stars were gods; gods were planets/stars: planets/stars and gods were one and the same.The civilization of Uruk traces to that of Sumer.And it is precisely here that the truth can be run to ground for the language of Sumer is the oldest written language that we have.And in that language, very much as in that of the Egyptians (to the ancient Egyptians, the synonymy of gods and planets was so complete that, in some instances, the same word was employed to signify either. Thus sba, among other things, meant "star," but Sba was also the name of a "star" god. The word netru meant "stars," but it also meant "gods."),so in Uruk the word and/or cuneiform sign for "god" and "star" was one and the same - * - a symbol derived from the pictograph which preceded cuneiform writing is the very picture of a star.This not only proves that stars and gods were thought of as being truly synonymous as far back as written records reach, it also indicates that the very concept of God has its origin in a star and this star was the Saturnian Sun.
>>534415213god is my virushttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibz-gPkTMDM&ra=m
>>534462575Some say our gas planets once were suns. The Mayas predicted the end of the world for 2012. I think it's in 2040 (>>534462406 https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/532846720/#532862315), so not bad timekeeping.>>534462794The vast majority of things I learned and said I learned from this guy: https://zenodo.org/records/18109461He's a physicist, so maybe this makes you reconsider some positions, though it would surprise me.>>534462910You have no clue. Yes, brain volume and IQ are correlated in intra-species comparisons.>>534463022There is one God. There are many egregores (you could call them spirit organisms like Francis Parker did). It's easy to see when you believe in panpsychism. But only God can be truly benevolent and only God has the power to defeat death and grant eternal life.
>>534463099>the ancients had no need to deify the planets because, to them, the planets had always been deities.My point is that they instinctively understood it. They attributed every creation to a different god. Which makes sense given the total incompatibility between the different life forms we observe.Everyone is fucking eating each other.
>>534463258>There is one God.Fuck off with this bullshit. There are many "gods", some more advanced than others. Any being from a civilization more advanced than ours is de facto a god to us.
>>534463258>Some say our gas planets once were suns. thats what I'm saying all the time, stars are externally powered and their energy comes from electric arc discharge."gas giants" simply dont get enough energy from the galactic circuit to get their plasma from glow mode or arc mode. but they still output more than what they receive from the sun and environment.>The Mayas predicted the end of the world for 2012. I think it's in 2040you arent the only one, the archaix schizo also said they (the jew media back then) calculated it wrong and the actual date is 2046.the year of the Micronova.>He's a physicistthat doesnt mean much these days.and I can tell you upfront before even looking into it that if it assumes "math is the reality" it is automatically wrong.>>534463265>they instinctively understood itthey saw a huge Saturn in the sky everyday and it had some destructive flare ups which made them shit their pants.the capture event was some crazy stuff too.and thats the basis for all the gods and religions. they made up storys to explain somehow what happened in the sky. this is also how they invented theater and larping.
>>534416825>me le believe in god because I'm too dumb to understand complexityYou're a turkroache
>>534463630>and thats the basis for all the gods and religionsI don’t think so.Imagine an oasis in the middle of a desert, first discovered by nomads 3,000 years ago. They settle in, adapt it to their way of life, gather supplies, and eventually move on.Five hundred years later, another group of nomads finds the same place and does the same, this time using the tools and knowledge of their era. They set it up, restock, and continue their journey.Another 500 years pass, and the pattern repeats again and again. Each new group leaves behind its equipment, methods, and way of organizing the space.Over time, what remains is a place built up in layers, each one a “fingerprint” of a different civilization that passed through. This kind of layering is exactly what we observe on this planet. One layer of life is consumed, transformed, or built upon by the next.A reconstructed scenario might look something like this:The first space nomads (gods) arrive at this oasis-planet and seed it with algae to produce oxygen for their rockets. They gather what they need and move on.Later, another civilization arrives. They find the algae already thriving and repurpose it, perhaps as feed for fish they created. They use the existing system to their advantage, collect resources, and continue their journey.And so it goes. Each new civilization adds something of its own while relying on what was left behind. Over time, the planet becomes a stack of biological layers, each one shaped by those who came before, where every layer feeds on and repurposes the ones beneath it.These layers were apparent to our ancestors, so they naturally attributed a god to each one.
>>534464884>I don’t think so.thats your problem then, the evidence says something else.>The first space nomads (gods) arrive at this oasis-planet and seed itwe dont need ayyliums to explain humans or civilization.
>>5344152130 moralshow is the non omnipotent child raping nigger jesus's child rape dungeon glory? fucking godtanist nutjob demons
>>534423809all christkikes are nuts
looks like a willy wonka factory
>>534463099its just dont that i dont semites seriously is all
>>534465066>the evidence says something else.The evidence says that this planet is a clusterfuck where everyone is eating each other. Nietzsche saw this too:>Life itself is essentially appropriation, injury, conquest of the strange and weak, suppression, severity, obtrusion of one’s own forms, incorporation, and at the least, putting it mildest, exploitation.My hypothesis of successive sojourns by space nomads (gods) explains this.
>>534465459ok but we dont need ayyliums to explain anything. you got any proofs?
>>534438109>>534436758Make a pyramid thread. I know its you
>>534415213>image ever capturedthats a 3d rendering created by an artist, you tard.
>>534423409>Although mitochondria contain their own DNA for some reason.Decent evidence that billions of years ago, early eukaryotic cells somehow developed a symbiotic relationship with bacteria (early mitochondria) and have been buddy-buddy ever since.
>>534467746yes its me.>Make a pyramid thread.interesting that you mention it, you see the pyramids fit into this too. the builders who engineered them understood these dissipative structures and thermodynamics and they knew how electric currents and magnetic fields and energy works and how to direct and transform this energy and turn it into something useful.like think about how much it takes to figure out something like dissipative structures and non equilibrium thermodynamics and inverted piezoelectric ultrasound reaction chambers and then engineer a giant machine from this knowledge.but I wouldnt say these builders were aliens, but its ayylmaos or really insanely smart people the likes who dont exist nowadays. if I'm like 100 IQ, these big brains must been over 9000 yakub tier.like you would need an army of turbo autist eggheads to figure all this shit out starting from 0. really an enigma how they did it.
The entire observable universe from our perspective exists in a bubble from God's. Some day soon it's going to be popped when God does away with it and recreates a new universe. This is why it's important to be born again, to be made right with God through Jesus Christ. The gift of God is the forgiveness of your sin nature, that it dies here, and through His shed blood you will be made a new being fit for His kingdom. Otherwise you'll be dying with this bubble and kept in a prison of fire where there's no refuge or escape.An isolated spirit prison, the "other side" of "this life", from a universe that will no longer exist. That altogether will have passed away in a terrible noise, where fire has eaten away everything. A remnant of a remnant perfectly isolated from God forever yet eternally in constant judgement, a state of continuous burning described as a vast lake of fire.And you'll know what it is. You'll know why you're there. It'll never end.Nothing will bother you more than the fact that you didn't have to be there. That God wanted you with Him and not there, but you refused Him. So instead of regretting that forever, get right with God through Jesus Christ. Still isn't too late at this point (still alive buddy?) and God will forgive you, absolve you of everything, no matter what if you come to Him on His terms which is through repentance of your old way of living and reliance on Christ Jesus alone.This world, this universe is coming to a fiery end. But God is eternal and He invites you to be with Him where He is, always. You can't even imagine what awaits in this coming world. What God has prepared for those He loves. Which is (You). If you'll let Him.
