not one thread about this debate. jay dyer and chase geiser both worked for infowars. i thought that alex hated freemasons. also im pretty sure chase geiser is who owns bigly, the people selling alex's supplements https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dTZ-QS2mxGo&pp=ygUQZnJlZW1hc29uIGRlYmF0ZQ%3D%3D
>>534421427Bottom of the barrel slop. Is there anyone who doesn't already know Masonry is not compatible with Christianity?
>>534421427Don't those freeniggers worship Lucifer at the top ranks
"Chase Geiser" and "Ryan Tuberville" sound like pornstar names.
>>534421686chase is a 32 degree and ryan a 33rd degree.
>>534421563That book was good
reminder:>the catholic church does NOT allow it's members to be masons- https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19831126_declaration-masonic_en.html>an orthodox synod has condemned masonry as incompatible with a christian's faith and practice- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_attitudes_towards_Freemasonry#Eastern_Orthodoxy>the kkk does NOT accept freemasons as members, and many other protestant denominations have also condemned masonry>hitler and mussolini threw the masons in the same concentration camps as the kikes, fags and jeets- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Freemasons#Nazi_Germany_and_occupied_Europe>the communists persecuted masonry- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonry#Soviet_Union>masonry is ILLEGAL in most muslim nations today- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Freemasons#Muslim_anti-Masonry
>>534421427this is old moron
1st degree>Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and buried in the rough sands of the sea at low-water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty four hours, should I ever knowingly or willingly violate this my solemn oath and obligation as an Entered Apprentice Mason. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.2nd degree>Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my left breast torn open, my heart plucked out, and given as a prey to the wild beasts of the field and the fowls of the air as a prey.3rd degree>Binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered to the four winds of heaven, so that no more trace or remembrance may be had of so vile and perjured a wretch as I, should I ever knowingly or willingly violate this my solemn obligation as a Master Mason. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.also 3rd degree:>I, __, of my own free will and accord, in the presence of Almighty God, and this Worshipful Lodge, erected to Him and dedicated to the holy St. John, do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, that I will hail, ever conceal, and never reveal any of the secrets, arts, parts, point or points, of the Master Mason's Degree, to any person or persons whomsoever, except that it be a true and lawful brother of this Degree, or in a regularly constituted Lodge of Master Masons, nor unto him, or them, until by strict trial, due examination, or lawful information, I shall have found him, or them, as lawfully entitled to the same as I am myself.here's what jesus says on the subject:>But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all- Matthew 5:34
here's what the famous 33rd degree albert pike, who's book moral's & dogma was at one point given away for free to members said on the subject (in his own book):>"masonry, like all the religions, conceals it's secrets from all except the elect, misleading those who deserve only to be misled. the blue degrees are but the outer court of the temple. part of the symbols are displayed there, but the initiate is intentionally misled by false interpretation."
pike, in his book, says that 'there are piece of divine truth in all religions. jesus is a way, but he is just one teacher among many.'. he compares jesus to osiris, mithras, krishna, etc (much like that movie Zeitgeist). he says that "jahova represents divine law", but also compares him to brahman (of hindusim), and others.
>>5344218612 fucking days old?
here's some historic facts:- the "Bavarian Illuminati" was founded by Adam Weishaupt (in 1776). it's goal was to be anti-religious/anti-christian. it's members are known to have "infiltrated" some masonic lodges- while some of the founder of america were masons (washington, franklin, hancock, hamilton, monroe), john adams denounced freemasonry, calling it "an engine of cunning, ambition, and fanaticism"- the FIRST 3rd party in USA history were the "anti-mason party". it was created when a former mason (william morgan) was abducted and disappeared/killed after threatening to publish masonic secrets. the party accused the masons of favoring their organization above the law/republic and corrupting courts/juries/elections/etc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party)- the P2 lodge of italy (Propaganda Due), despite being regular, was found out to have among it's members: the prime minister, top generals and judges, journalists, top vatican bankers, among others. it was declared "irregular" by the UGLE when their crimes came to light (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due)just recently in france, 22 masons were arrested for assassinations btw - https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260330-french-masonic-lodge-at-heart-of-murky-murder-trial
and have you stopped to think how it is that the masons ("who are so patriotic and moral!") were fighting on both sides of the american war of independence? overthrowing the government sounds a little bit illegal to me, no? so how come they weren't declared irregular? on the other hand, if you want to argue that they "lived under a tyranny!!", who, pray tell, was in change of this tyranny? was it not exactly the masons in britain, those "rubbing elbows with the rich and famous", those who "have the royalty in their ranks"?
>>534421953its a reupload dipshit
>>534421914jay dyer and chase are debating why albert pikes statues were torn down during the blm riots. lmao
>>534421563Does the book admit that masonry is just judaism for goys?
>>534422087It also talks about how Jews created the USSR , great book
Dad and G-pa both Masons. Also Jews (mixed marriage, I was raised Cath). The Jewish side of my family are infinitely better people than the Christian side. I'm red-pilled on freemasons and all I can say is if it truly is a Luciferian sekret club you gotta be 33rd to find out because these guys are just normal ass dudes.
>>534421427>freemasonry is not a religion and that's where i stopped listening. bald lying time wasting piece of shit.
>>534422087It goes pretty damn hard against the Kikes. I haven't read it all
>>534421427Jay Dyer always comes across as a con man to me. I don't believe he's really a Christian. He comes across as some sort of narcissist.
>>534422294Kikes have been promoting their slave-bridal drivel with chutzpah for millennia. He is simply continuing a very old tradition of chauvinist judaeo-centric pilpul for the Karl Marx Rabbi of Rome.
>>534422294Yep, something wrong with him. He probably has over 1000 people blocked on X. Many are probably Christians, even Orthodox. That is mental.
>>534422294he has aspergers
>>534424800>and does public podcasts and debates"No."
>>534424963He's good at bullying and using rhetorical intimidation tactics that gloss over the points while flourishing and appearing intelligent to normiegroids unversed in the subject. He's an entryist Jewish thug like his church 'fathers'. When he talks to another homoerotic Orthocuck his true cuck personality comes out.
The Masons are just lying.
>>534422294He's a sophist and debate bro lolcow
>>534421427>not one thread about this debateBecause it's irrelevant.
>>534425919Speaking of Sadam will someone explain what this shitshow was? Just two Caligroid stoner dudebros mumbling 'dude, bro' and 'dude, sweet!' to one another for 3 hours while one does a bad impression of Dyer? Was it supposed to be real?https://youtu.be/U4pofaohi-E?si=w9LlrDedt2QfDV4E
>>534421427Heretics.
>>534421817I don't trust anyone who has poked at their 7th chakra.
>>534421620ye
>>534421854This is actually interesting to me especially the communist portion because Freemasons seem to overwhelmingly run in communist circles. Thanks Bulgarian Christian anon.
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>>534429574lol
>>534425919>Adam (((Green)))>le pagan LARPIt's all so cringe. Call Adam Greenberg out for being jewish and you will immediately be swarmed by the comment, "you worship a dead jew on a stick," even when Christianity isn't even mentioned. And it happens literally every single time. Very peculiar!
>>534421686Truly
>>534421427alex does not hate masons, he defends them. he is one, and all of his family were masons, he said so himself. he said he has a giant trunk full of masonic regalia. he said to stop looking at the masons, they aren't the problem...look at his logo, it's very masonic if you know what to look for. first of all the square and compass is a stylized hexagram, among other things. you can see the hexagram in the logo. a hexagram is made up of two triangles (or a square and compass) signifying the union of heaven and earth, above and below, etc etc. that is taken care of by the arrows, one up and one down. https://youtu.be/ZPGuKvlZ6gkyou can see in this video, him pointing at his lips, a sign of secrecy
>>534421854the reason why the catholic church bans it is because freemasonry is universalist and pseudo-religious, which threatens the "authority" of the papacy. it's perfectly understandable why the ban exists.the orthodox standpoint is borderline incoherent in comparison.
Jay Dyer is peak faggot midwit, >umm that's a genetic fallacy bro, you've lost the debate, you've losthow anyone can listen to this retard is beyond me
>>534431227what's peculiar about it?christcucks seething and calling you a jew when you remind them they worship a jew?we have multiple decade old memes of that Couldn't find the golems law one
>>534426011>bad impressionkekcope less
>>534421427>Christian Freemasons
>>534432573Christian Satanists are the majority of Americans, amigo. Those who bless Israel.
>>534421854>>534421878>>534421949>>534421976Freemasonry has the structure of an intelligence network that is transnational & intergenerational.
>>534421821>buy my book goyWell at least the first books were free.Just for the sake of variety it would be cool to see a thread about the Odd Fellows.
>>534432573They think Zionism is Christian too.
Kind of a shit debate honestly, they couldn't even get through the opening points and to anything which would meaningfully settle the question, forcing Jay to basically declare victory even though the incompatibility of Christianity was definitely not established by his line of questioning (though it is incompatible).Most ridiculous part of the debate was Ryan being there at all, dude seemed to not understand what a debate was despite apparently watching previous Dyer debates. Also talked super slow / rambled and never addressed any points, just seemed like he saw it as an opportunity to shill for masonry.Not sure why Chase and Ryan didn't just respond to Dyer's edge cases like theistic Satanism with "yes, nothing in principle prevents such a person from joining, this does not contradict Masonic dogmatic theology since there is no Masonic dogmatic theology". Could have even stressed that belief in Supreme Being is not dogma in the sense that its taught, its just that they only want such people in the group, not dissimilar to having a society only for Abrahamics. Jay would then have to get into deeper questions such as what Masonry actually does teach but this would have been a smart counter to the points early on, instead Chase and Ryan seem to think Dyer is trying to accuse them of being welcoming to Satanists so they go to great lengths to say a Satanist would never be allowed in in practice, which Dyer seems to take as a formal requirement.Whole point Jay attempting to force at the end which is that mandating belief in a Supreme Being in order to join a society is sufficient to make it incompatible with Christianity was weak asf and a non-sequitur, he seemed to be trying to imply that Masonry commands you to believe in a "generic theism" as a model which is not at all the same thing as mandating belief in a Supreme Being.
>>534421427>Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.@35:00 They say they don't allow Satanist then Jay replies you allow Muslims and Hindus. Kek. Checkmate
>>534421427Geiser doesn’t own Bigly he just works for them. Low level masons usually have no idea they’re working in a jewish plot and not all of them are asked to participate in them. The organizational structure allowed jew filth to take over in the 19th century with most members even leadership being none the wiser.
>>534433816geiser said he was a 32nd degree mason in the debate.
