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and wrong.

He was right about the Labour Theory of Value and the Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall. But he was wrong about the "New Socialist Man"—an individual who has been "re-educated" by their environment to value the collective over the self or the tribe. The latter goes against what we know from modern evolutionary psychology, i.e. in-group favouritism or kinship bias, and mate choice and competition.

That means marxism can't be entirely dismissed, but nationalism must remain. ITT you try to prove me wrong.
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>>534438051
I honestly don't think Sisyphus should get paid for his work.
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>>534438151
because there's no use value?
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Do whites lack kinship bias?
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>>534438051
>Labour Theory of Value
Lmfao in what meaningful way was this correct? Every single thing Marx wrote turned out to be demonstrably false.
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>>534439464
well, when you lose a war you get humiliated
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>>534439520
It's correct that effort (as in socially necessary labour time) is clearly tied to value in all but fringe cases.
>>534439523
what war did we loose?
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>>534439464
White people have higher intelligence and thus more open to consider other factors when determining someones character.
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>>534439602
>effort (as in socially necessary labour time) is clearly tied to value
Not even 1% true. There is nobody on earth that cares at all about effort when it comes to value. Value is a complete abstraction that has very little to do with labor.
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>>534439621
Whites are smarter than asians using IQ as a metric? I think you mean that whites have been programmed to perform equality whereas other races haven't, just like people press the blue button, whites choose equality.
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>>534439520
This. If anything, he was right for his ideas demonstrating what doesn't work.
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>>534439520
The two most recent superpowers have been explicitly guided by a dialectical philosophy. A demonstrably false playbook wouldn't have gotten them where they are.
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>>534439667
Inputs and outputs, as simple as.
Take the example of a cod fishery. Fishery is abundant, low catch per unit of effort (CPUE), cheap price of fish. Fishery gets overtaxed, and CPUE goes down. At first same amount of fish make it to market, no change in price, but this derivation from value cannot be sustained. CPUE goes down and down, value goes up. Price goes up to readjust to value.
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>>534439776
Asians are prone to hive mindedness, Whites are able to think critically. IQ is only one factor in intelligence. Whites possess the strongest measurements across levels from general intelligence to emotional intelligence. Asians are typically poor innovators and tend towards stagnation
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>>534439520
It is only true in that labor produces value. It's not even the primary component of value, and more labor does not equal more value.
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>>534438051
Nationalism is itself a taught value, nations are born through the conflict of social classes, the collapse of the aristocracy, the end of serfdom and the rise of the bourgeoisie as the representatives of said nations into bourgeoise republics.

Kinship is learned through shared struggle, and struggle is born through the conflict of social classes until the finality of this conflict leads to the proletariat seizing power in of itself; this then becomes the standard of which the human animal abides to once the state withers away after the socialist state performs its function of uplifting the proletariat through material abundance and cooperation as the means of production instead of coercion through capital accumulation.
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>>534438051
>He was right about the Labour Theory of Value
LOL, not reading the rest of your BS
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>>534439978
Good news, cause I'm white. But LARPing as colourblind isn't working out very well for us is it?
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>>534439964
No thats not how the price of cod is decided. Its an even worse example because youre now talking about food which is massively influenced by geography. The greatest influence on food is supply/demand. Not fucking labor expended. Marx was a bitter jew trying to con peasants into destroying the state so his tribe could take power, thats why he invented idiotic concepts like labor theory of value.
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>>534440049
To some extent. We do need stronger laws for in group preservation because we now see other racial groups are inherently not equal and do not operate on the same field we do, thus making multiculturalism a losing game when more distant groups than the host culture are added into it.
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>>534440029
That's the theory, but it flies in the face of what evolutionary psychology teaches. Simple sexual selection tells us there will always be competition over mates, and so always a tribal struggle for control over the reproductive market.
>>534440101
he didn't invent LTV... it was used by economists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo before him
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>>534440029
>people need to be taught to care about their extended family (kin, race) via class struggle instead of just inherently understanding it
commie, please. You have it inverted, people have to be taught class struggle because normally they don't see anything in common with people outside of their extended kinship group. That's why western elites are so in favor of unfettered immigration because they know it destroys natural group cohesion. Why are commies so fucking retarded when it comes to basic human nature?
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>>534440248
>have to be taught class struggle
Objectively factual. In any society you can see racial groups stick together during immigration regardless of social or economic status.
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>>534440248
>>534440337
Actually there is a schism in tribal affiliation due to class that can be seen even in primitive societies. But when it comes to actually selecting a partner to marry and reproduce with, tribe reasserts itself.
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>>534440101
The role of scarcity in the LTV is made clear in fisheries because scarcity decreases CPUE while also increasing price, thereby making the increased effort worth while.
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>>534440888
Not if people youre selling to dont eat cod.
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>>534440247
Mate selection is due to the capitalist urge of preserving the ‘traditional’ nuclear family by having the head of the household (the male usually) take on the burden of raising the children within that ingroup. It is a communal effort and mate selection should be encouraged through genuine social bonding, not through capital gain I.e. marriage, divorce, child support.

>>534440248
It’s cultural, race is 90% a feeling, and most of what understand in relation to race occurred due to imperialism and economic exploitation of other groups of people, phenotypes change with time, but class will always remain.
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So called neo fascists "alt right" etc are by definition new socialists. This website used to value personal liberty now its a cry-along blunted effect echo chamber.
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>>534440029
Class is a spook.
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>>534441008
>the capitalist urge of preserving the ‘traditional’ nuclear family
Lmfao
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>>534440930
They did before...? Hence the existence of a fishery.
>>534441008
Even the bolshevism of the 20th century found that it had to turn to family, and blood and soil in order to sustain itself.
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>>534441221
Not necessarily at all a fishery is there because its near a coast. That doesn't mean there are consumers for your cod. You really have no idea what makes things valuable at all
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>>534438051
COMMUNISM IS THE WORST GET A JOB YOU PARASITE
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>>534441286
What makes women of the white race valuable? Or what makes a pure bred show dog expensive? Is it the effort put into creating them?
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>>534441481
Nobody is willing to buy into this?



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