When will Quebec chads do the same and join the French empire? This would really piss off the mutts having us in their backyard kek
>>534446520interesting wonder if BC would leave shortly after alberta did. ideally we'd be together
They won't let Alberta separate. Quebec tried it and Elections Canada straight up lied and said they lost the vote by 0.1%.
>>534446520Why would having you fags in our "backyard" be any worse than Canada or Mexico?
What is Alberta
>>534446520Why independence and not our 51st state?
>>534446918wanna be hick/migger archetype from canada
Albert will be re-joining the UK Ironically. digits and it happens
>>534446520>This would really piss off the mutts having us in their backyard kekIt would. Working for tips in South Florida in the 2000s taught me that French Canadians are the worst. I'd rather wait on a table of niggers or jews.
>>534446520the you-know-whos are scrambling to get their people on top of the leadership to ensure the best humans still get fucked by the shit they're currently getting fucked by now.remember: democracy in its current definition means 'a country controlled by you-know-whos
>>534446520A border gore worse than fergana valley is about to happen…
>>534446825Yeah France is built for BC
>>534446957Once independant they can then apply to be a state, like Texas did
>>534446520Lol that would fucking rule if they joined the US. It's Manifest Destiny in action!
>>534446957>>534447408Fuck off, Eglin.
>>534446520Based
>>534446918Oil rich Canadian province that basically supports the welfare regime that is the rest of the country. Also produces some of the best rodeo talent in the world. Houston Rodeo this year was stacked with Albertans.
>>534447123Ima pound your ezra hole if you don’t shut the fuck up
>>534447038Sorry man I had this old fatshit dog years ago tell me I had curse immunity forever over everything. It's worked out so far.
>>534446520>This would really piss off the mutts having us in their backyard kekDepends on if you keep the curry pipeline turned onAbsent that, we could stand an infusion of white culture right now
>>534446520The 51st getting a little uppity? How cute :)
>>534447465Lol holy cope. You're going to be America's officially soon. We could take you over in a half hour if we wanted to. We'll just wait until your retarded government fucks you over so much you'll voluntarily join us.
>>534448186>We'll just wait until your retarded government fucks you over so much you'll voluntarily join us.Now this is a dick move
>>534446520canada will use secession as an excuse to genocide every last remaining white in the entire country
>>534446520Wow 300k, that's almost as many welfare-hungry jeets that packed into the province so far this year lel
>>534446520it'll be jeeted too just like rest of the west, what's the point
>>534446520Saint Pierre and Miquelon already exist. It's really moronic that random burgers know more about French clay than a Frenchfag.
>>534446520Oh yeah, right after they doxxed the entire Province. To put this in perspective, this is 7% of the Province's population. Possibly, a number of this realized that the most likely use for this is as a pressure tool in renegotiating the equalization and/or judicial appointments, since there is no possible way for Alberta to get the numbers necessary to do this through internal means. In any case, it is *very far* from a sign that Alberta is on its way out. >>534446520>When will Quebec chads do the same and join the French empire?When will you reinstate the King?
>>534446877I'm from Montreal. The Quebec situation was different. Alberta will actually make it happen. Quebecers are larpers. Albertans are the real deal.
>>534449754quebec also gets HUGE benefits from being part of canada, alberta doesnt. alberta pays quebec a bunch of money for communist reasons.
>>534446520Please don't inflict this border gore on us.
>>534449754> I'm from Montreal.> I'm an (((anglo-montrealer)))> It is a matter of record how we fucked the last referendum for our Liberal sbires, but let me tell you how it was the fault of Quebecois.
>>534446825BC is a liberal hellhole, they won't leave.
>>534449799That's one of the reasons. But it's mainly attitude. Quebecois are emotional basket cases. Albertans are pragmatic, well educated and they know what they've got. Do you know how fucking tiring it was growing up in Montreal being surrounded by low IQ Pepsis who said they can leave Canada but keep Canadian currency and military? Fuckin retards man.
>>534447589>best rodeo talent in the worldThanks for pointing that out. Not surprising given that ranching and agriculture are also a huge part of our provincial economy, not to mention the annual Calgary Stampede event. For anyone out there reading this that doesn't know much about the industry, entry level oilfield related work tends to pay rather well if you don't mind longish hours. With just a commercial DL, a few simple courses, and some mentoring you can soon find yourself running heavy trucks and start grossing ~CAN $300 per day to start without much heavy labour involved.
>>534449799Albertans still on average get 10k more salary than the rest of Canadians. They also insist on paying less Provincial taxes (and bitches that they have a shitty school system & horrible failing infrastructures). Also, fuck off, half of the East goes out West to work a few years, I've done oil fields, butcher plants, construction in Red Deer, I know exactly how fucking lazy the average Albertan is. How completely fucking drunk on the job the vast majority of their fracking truck drivers are. How they'll throw 50k at native kids the second they turn 18 to placate them. And on top of things, they are the descendants of the last wave of folks sent to do exactly this to the previous inhabitants of the place.
Albertafags, would you leave Canada if part of the deal was that you have to take all of BC with you. This gives you ocean access but you also get all the nutbags too? Remember, they outnumber you by enough of a margin that they'll probably end up calling the shots.
You americans better be stuffing those ballot boxes on Oct 19th.
>>534446825>>534450009>>534450501Why would BC leave? We'll make a killing fleecing dumbertans for access to our abundant coastline lmao. Imagine voting to become a landlocked country. >>534447589 You might as well claim the rust belt supports the US economy lmao.
>elector list gets leaked>suddenly they have a lot of "signatures"only a retard can't see through that shit
>>534449281Delete this
Canadian's don't decide anything.
>>534446520
>>534450501Dude, they have to get an additional 44% of their own Province onboard. Assuming 100% of the signees remains on the leave side on October 19th. How would they get BC, which is afaik the only other Province than Ontario with no significant separatism movement history, up to 51%? Also, Albertans hate BC only slightly less than they do Quebec.
>>534450632Looks like you didn't decide the learn the basics of English. Good use of decisional power.
i've been told by visiting canadians that alberta is the canada equivalent of the average redneck retard flyover state, is that true?
>>534446918Texas light.
>>534450696Oh, the sweet, sweet irony.
>>534447038Fuck that.
>>534450684And yet every year they come shit up my quiet little BC mountain town. They’ve already started, fat retards in pickups. It’s tiresome.
>>534447465i dont support taking over canadabut that would be funny af>bloated leftists cess pool ontario shits all over provinces that actually produce anythingLeave>but what about our carbon tax remittances? think of all the jeets we have to feed
>>534450781>fat retards in pickups.BC outside of metro vancouver is all like that already.
>>534450824Agree but they’re our fat retards in pickups. We’re full ffs.
>>534450620In all seriousness if they did become a state we’d have to figure out what to do with the street shitters. We don’t want them getting burger citizenship
>>534450810> alberta leaves> becomes a state> simultaneously piss off Quebec and Puerto Rico
>>534446520Welcome home, brown men.
>Landlocked 3rd world shithole that'd have to grovel to be America's little bitch because the only other alternative is groveling even further to Candaheh god I wish this would go through just for the regret to be felt instantly
>>534450889I’d be ok with Puerto Rico statehood in exchange for Alberta statehood. Ideally I want Cuba too since we're apparently about to invade them
>>534450701Nah, that's more Sask and Manitoba. Alberta really likes to believe it is a mix of Landman & Yellowstone (yes, I know how dumb it is to use shows as societal tokens, but if you know Albertans, you'd understand how *perfectly*, with all the fake ass bullshit that goes with it, it applies), but in the end its societally somewhere between the Appalachians and real, actual Colorado. There are ranches and cowboys, sure, but not that much more than say, you'd see in a Beauceron town. What it is, is pure midwest misery. And they are in love with it too. They'll pretend its their culture, and seethe at the only real culture in the country, Quebec, and shove their head as far as they can in their oilsands to ignore the historical reasons why [current state of affairs].
>>534446520Alberta? They aint gone do shit. They're going to stay our paypigs forever. Any Albertans here? Oink, piggy. Oink for daddy, little piggy. Just for even attempting this, Ontariochads are going to build a new Museum of First Nations Gendertheory Literature and make our little piggy pay for it.
>>534451063It’s also absolutely miserable there. Savagely cold in the winter, dry and dusty in the summer. The whole province reeks of pig shit and diesel fumes.
>>534451018the idea of Albertan independence is abt the funniest thing I've ever fucking heard of, you'd be letting American truckers fuck your wife for an ounce of coastal access that Canada will refuse with 0 competition
>>534446520Cool. It'll become the only landlocked country in North America.
>>534450501BC is generally fine outside of the vancouver area. the interior is largely conservative
>>534451104you're Indian
>>534450009BC was one seat from voting in a conservative government and it was only due to retarded vote splitting that it doesn't have one. It would be a blowout today after the NDP gave a bunch of lefties land to the chugs.
>>534450860My complaint is red plates don't know what a corner is. They can't fucking drive.
>>534451346It’s honestly a hoot watching Albertans try and navigate mountain roads here, ideally from a great distance.
>>534451302Nah that was pretty decent bait desu. That guy does probably larp as a shiteater though.
>>534446520Canadian laws allow to leave a country like that?Democracy is such a meme, imagine if these peasants told a king that they want to be independent...
>>534451418Not nearly enough passing lanes.
>>534446825BC was referred by the queen as the crown jewel. I doubt they would ever secede. They actually gave public land rights to a small band of indigenous recently. It's a weird place man.
>>534450572US has a coastline too and doesn’t Alberta have oil?
>>534451473When people say Canada isn't a real country it's shockingly accurate in a legal sense. The Constitution wasn't even properly ratified and the provinces hold immense power should they choose to exercise it.
>>534451498No one voted for that, they thought they were voting for feels. Now they're finding out the hard way where that horse shit was going.
>>534451185I lived a decade in and around Red Deer, small city right in between Calgary and Edmonton, I know exactly how bad it is there. Once had a hailstorm every month of the year. Spend a night in a Timmy while the tornado warning was blasting on the radio, like in the olden movies. You are also right on the dust, it can be harder to breath. I'll mention this positive however, summer nights are really nice. In Red Deer you are kinda closer to the timezone crossover so the sun can set really late in the evening, much later than out East. That was always nice. And, well, Albertan girls are sluts.
>>534446520>Frog hillbillies spawned by filles de Rois>Chads EL OH EL
>>534451289and jeeted to helljust give it another 20 years and it will be 50% white
>>534451289This is true of earth. Samson option would basically solve all of humanity's problems.
>>534446825i feel like you're kinda retarded in saying this. You understand why right? I'm in the US and I understand why, how can you not? Only logical conclusion is that you're retarded
>>534451651He is and he isn't. If Alberta leaves BC would likely immediately apply for US statehood even with a commie leftist government in power, the commies down in WA and OR would be rallying for it. There wouldn't even be a referendum, it would just happen. There doesn't need to be a vote.
>>534451104BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
there are too many ontario faggots spouting off ITT, the place reeks of gay
>>534446520>Berta secedes>Carney puts a bounty of separatist scalpsWould you sign up?
>>534451724Taking in Alberta would be like taking in North Korea. Not sure how we'd adapt those citizens are being away from civilized society for so longI'm completely against it, their shit tier oil can be used as a bargaining chip for coastal access instead.
>>534446520>When will Quebec chads do the same and join the French empire? This would really piss off the mutts having us in their backyard kekAmericans do not hate french people, we just think you're cowardly and have slutty women.
>>534451753come on down and let's dance, brother
>>534451769I dunno anon their major cities are full of literal African niggers just like the US. Seems they'd fit right in.
>>534451104>only one thing canadians good atwhat do you think the maple slurple is for?
>>534446520Can't the king just send an expeditionary force to Canada and have the leaders of that movement arrested and executed?
>>534446520I don't care about Alberta oil, but we must annex Alberta for Banff national park.
>>534446520It won't happen, not a chance in hell. It will be undermined every step of the way. You have no idea the amount of federal resources that will be put into preventing any sort of independence. It simply will not be allowed to happen. If you think real democracy exists in this day and age you're a fucking moron. But forget all that, even if you had a fair referendum (which you won't) the average Canadian, and yes, that includes Albertans are so easily propagandized and retarded they would overwhelmingly vote no.
I don't think the Canadian government would allow it. Northern territories are basically uninhabitable, and so Alberta leaving Canada would effectively mean splitting Canada in half, with BC separated from the east. This would result in a situation where Canada is completely reliant on staying in the good graces of America and/or Alberta to continue giving them access through their territory just to get from one side of the country to the other.
>>534451753Yes, but only because I would sign up to anything that would allow me to scalp someone legally. At least without too much efforts, I ain't fucking going to tanzania just to scalp a motherfucker or something. It wouldn't be personal, you know.
>>534451812states have a lot of those rights and stuff, and the way I see it is an independent Alberta is between a rock and a hard place, which means they should be prepared to get fucked
>>534447038Bastard
>>534451806You chuds will be eliminated quickly by the renewed CAF under Carney.It would be the most failed uprising in history.
>>534451844alberta oil accounts for roughly 25% of all raw oil that feeds US refineries. what people thought you were getting with venezuela you already have via alberta. any albertan independence ultimately ends with us becoming the 51st. pic rel is the only true future for north america
Alberta will be the new India.
>>534451949alberta has probably triple the amount of firearms and men capable of using them than the canadian forces do
>>534451967Why the fuck would anyone let the Chinese on North American soil? Kick them out. Cleanse the lower mainland of anyone that came in the last 30 years.
>>534451967oil would likely be cheaper to buy after the Albertan economy collapses for being landlocked and unable to trade any goods and resources without having to either bend the knee to Canada or capitulate to U.S. demands
Just join the US already, the map look stupid with Alaska being cut off
>>534452017Alberta has triple the amount of concentrated copium than the rest of Canada.
Great news for American oligarchs and the expansion of our Judeo-Christian empire.
>>534446520>>come home sikh/jeet man.
>>534446520>French EmpireDid you come here in a time machine, marshall Ney?
>>534450364>drunk on the job the vast majority of their fracking truck drivers areI thought drunk driving was more heavily punished in Canada versus here.
>>534446957It would ruin our aesthetics
>>534451906States have fuck all for rights in the US. Feds can threaten federal funding and swing their dick around over anything. Provinces in Confederation actually have power, including the power to leave. Having a couple bullshit jew bought senators and congressmen isn't anything. It'll be done eventually because it makes logistical sense.
>>534452055god forbid we capitulate to american demands like we have been doing for our entire existence. alberta has been landlocked by canada, the only reason we can get oil out is because we pay the US to pipe it out and we charge for it whatever the US wants us to
>>534452158we dont pay attention to limpwristed ontarians here, anon. stop giving it (you)s
>>534446520Now you just need to remove all the liberals from the northwest and take Washington, Oregon, Idaha, Montana and NorCal, merge them with western Canada and become Cascadia
>>534452244yes, and once you leave you're going to be landlocked between the nation you left and a nation who does not care if they starve you out a bit first for easier corporate takeover of the states assets.
>>534446825So many people say that BC leaving is impossible because of Vancouver, but I strongly disagree. Vancouver and surrounding areas, meaning the Vancouver Metropolitan Area could be an autonomous region, or its own country. It could even join the US state of Washington, because it’s right next to Seattle and they’re basically the same city in two countries. All of BC joins “Western Canada” (assuming it remains independent instead of joining US) and Greater Vancouver chooses one of the options I mentioned above. I’ve made many different versions of potential partition maps for Canada, here’s one in which the Western Provinces and Territories all become one country with the exception of Greater Vancouver, Vancouver Island, and the Southwestern Coast of British Columbia. It could join the US as a state, or be its own country.
>>534446918More Montana.
>>534447038goddamit
>>534446881Ideally they just go independent and not 51st. We get better business relations with the part of Canada that actually produces shit, and the gay(er) parts of Canada get a full on anal prolapse.
>>534452417No the logistics of remaking the bureaucratic systems is nonsensical. The faggot leftists on the coast will be convinced to join by the faggot leftists in the US on the west coast. It's like you forget the US is full of faggot leftists as well.
>>534446520Based. Alberta will be free!
>>534452329Based, some day I will visit rural BC and western Alberta again. It's truly White Man Come Home territory.
>>534446520Godspeed Albertans!
>>534446520Meanwhile....
What's the political leaning of eastern coastal / island Canada like? Any chance of them leaving too?
>>534452586They didn't require ID. Was under the old rules. It was also a pointless waste of time.
>>534452158It's not impossible, I have briefly worked for an alcolock service so my experience is only that 1) holy shit half of the pajeets in Ontario are drunk drivers, even the pajeetas, 2) they make you pay out of your ass, and 3) they couldn't care less if you go stuck buried in a snowstorm because the device is shitty as fuck. I don't know how severe the program really is, or how it varies from Province to Province, or comparatively to the States. But all of my driver friends drank on the job. Honestly not even just the frakking guys, a shitload of dudes just popped one open and kept it in their legs while driving, and I was the fucker for being weird about it. I know of at least one multi truck pile up with chemical spill that was caused by it, and it was swept under the rug. Really couldn't tell you if its just the local culture, the oil company's doing, or just luck that time (but it seemed way too fucking big for me to not draw media attention, people went to the hospital, for a while.)
>>534446520>This would really piss off the mutts having us in their backyardWhy would it piss us off? I don't understand.
>>534452417I'll forgive you because you are a burger, but Labrador belongs to Quebec. Fuck you Vicky.
>>534450572>Landlocked Over 95% of Albertian oil is sold directly to the USIn fact many provinces trade more with the US than interprovincial
>>534446520not gonna happen. I'm from here and the jeets are gonna stop us from leaving. I often hear them complaining that white people are childish for not wanting to stay with Canada. It's insane that many of them can vote in the referendum.
>>534451059I hope we bring back rough riders for Cuba.
>>534450572Alberta could just join the US and tell you faggots to pound sand.
>>534452726East coast alliance when? We need to build a wall between Ontario and Quebec to keep the brown hoards of the west out.
>>534447465nobody wants your jeets, just the oil. Patel.
>>534452514> No the logistics of remaking the bureaucratic systems is nonsensical. The faggot leftists on the coast will be convinced to join by the faggot leftists in the US on the west coast. It's like you forget the US is full of faggot leftists as well.What are you trying to say? That Vancouver would stay with an independent Western Canada? That they’d join the US? Or that Washington would leave and join Vancouver?
>>534449920>Please don't inflict this border gore on us.If Alberta goes, Canada would fall apart. Alberta is really the only thing keeping Canada going at this point.
>the greatest thing the "based" canadians can aspire to is being an american petroleum colonyWhat an absolute joke of a country.
>>534446520I'm against this solely because of border gore.
>>534447038nigger
>>534452766Mate, you've been importing Flips non-stop since the early 2000s. Jeets aren't going to be the (well, only) reason the referendum fails.
>>534446520>would really piss off the mutts having us in their backyard kekI like the French tho
>>534452836That the commies in Vancouver would be convinced to take the whole province and petition to be a state.
>>534446520Inb4 >Alberta is landlocked.Nah they're ok.
>>534452849Huh? I want to fuck over the rest of Canada and make them seethe. But yes, it is a joke of a country.
this is retarded. they should move to russia instead
>>534447038Fuck mang
>>534452806>East coast alliance when?Its pretty much de facto what it is. The old enemies have been lumped together because Ontario used the same way to placate us all, at the West's expense (admittedly, although, I think they deserve it, mostly, whatever.) We're all that's left of the previous Canadian culture(s), of the White fact in North America, of a land that people actually love to live in and want to leave to their kids. The kicker is, the real uniting factor will end up being that we are all on the receiving end of equalization, and are all equally threatened (i.e., not that much, but still a bit) by Alberta's little tantrum. I guess I should thank Albertans for that?
>>534452076thats quite a lot. like sand in an ocean.
>>534452924I’m not necessarily saying they’d choose to be a state. They could be an autonomous region of a Western Canada, or be an independent city-state. Also, they absolutely would not hesitate to join their homosexual kinsmen in Washington if they were left isolated from the rest of Canada and BC. If they joined the state of Washington, it would make it permanently Democrat dominated. Maybe then Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon would finally split off and make the infamous Greater Idaho.
>>534446520In two more weeks the voters of Alberta will learn the sad reality that nothing ever happens
>>534452854filipinos are pretty cool and friendly. I feel like they integrate well into Canada. But then again, I only know some of them when I used to work in the kitchen.
>>534452067we'd need BC and Sach for that.
>>534446825This is where its going.
>>534453181Regions don't separate easily like that. The rest of the province wouldn't care for their own reasons but the commies could be convinced to push the provincial government to leave, it's almost a guarantee if Alberta separates as an independent country. BC would go straight to the US and petition to join the Union.
>>534453010Here you go Alberta, access to the sea. There's not a lot of roads though, so enjoy the trek through open wasteland.
>>534453247Yeah I mean, Whole of Canada should just be a part of the US.Alaska being cut off triggers my autism
>>534453278BC doesn't exist.They handed the land over to the listerine canadians.
>>534452924they could be an unincorporated territory. theyd have no right to vote, but also pay no federal taxes.
>>534448186>We could take you over in a half hour if we wanted to.Please stop saying these things. We don't need a 3rd two day operation.
>>534453324Not QUITE yet but they're trying.
>>534453310Sorry kid they get to pick the way they want.Shame about that really.
>>534453339That's literally the process. I suppose there might be some vague legal connection with the Articles of Confederation (Canadian territory could join the Union as a state right away) in the spirit of the law but those are no longer in force, so territory > state just like all the other ones that became states. Except Texas I think that may have gone straight to statehood.
>>534449754>I'm from Montreal>I don't know the vote was rigged in 1995 despite being mainstream newsRetourne en Haïti.
>>534453407No You don't. You get what you're given.>kidyou sound fat and red-headed
>>534453320we've asked about this a bunch. britian said theyd do a war on us back when we were weaker, and now we all have nukes, yada yada.... >anyway, economic terrorism is absolutely going to fix the borders like in my swedish map painting games.
>>534446918kike
>>534452784Me too
>>534449754>I'm from Montreal>Specifically, the West Island>No, I don't speak French and I can't show you my foreskin
>>534453476HA this guy.There are too many retarded canadians.It's ok once Alberta leaves the country implodes.
>>534446520In my minecraft france leaves a gaping hole in west africa as it pivots into labrador uranium. And more broadly the nwp. We join the russians on banks island to upcycle the waste of academik lomonosov to mine the lignite for the chinese. Warmed of couse by the japanese power beam sats.
>>534453201My first gf was flip. Sex is hot, most of the time they are alright, but their family is insufferable, and you will have to deal with the extended lot of them. Every now and then something will happen that will leave you wanting to shove them all in a gas chamber. Like, gf dropping the tale of grandma's violent mass rape by japanese troops when she was 12 at diner table, with the entire family around, including grandma, and no one skips a beat, they just go around picking up the story where each other leaves it, like they've heard it every fucking Sunday since forever. Sorry, that scene's been with me forever. Fuck.
>>534453434>theyd possibly join as as state immediately by some weird technicallynaw. pr is still a territory after all these years. theres no way in hell you're getting majority vote in 50 states to add a new territory in the current political climate, unless its a lock for one specific side.
>>534453623Two more weeks
>>534453483Do the bongs really have the final say still to this day?
>>534446520can some one fill me in on alberta
>>534453689October 20th is gonna be hilarious.
>>534453695its technically their land. its a logging crown corporation that really *owns* canada, kinda like the EETC, but shittier.
>>534447408No wonder I remember 52 US States! Perhaps it was the future timeline appearing as present.
>>534453722They're tourists. Spent years in Copenhagen, they're currently in Seethenhagen, and in two more weeks they'll move on to Dilatenhagen
>>534453722Alberta is canadas bank account.Quebec can not survive without themWhen Alberta leaves Canada implodes.Hilarity ensues.
>>534453776Wild. I thought they broke away from all that shenanigans. I assume the same goes for the aussies then ?I should really pick up a book one of these days
>>534453722Vast oil reserves Low iq and very whinny (im kidding)In all honesty truly kind hearted people who have been given a raw deal sometimes t. Québécois who has actually been to Berta
>>534453749I'll remind you October 4th that in two more weeks nothing will happen.
>>534453683PR is full of brown people and is a complete basket case.
>>534446825You get no oil fields gay
>>534453039>I want to fuck over the rest of Canada and make them seetheA noble goal
>>534453831Oil is only a fraction of Canada's economy. The fuck are you talking about?
>>534446918Imagine if texas was blue and had more chinese ranchers, that's basically it
>>534453831>Quebec can not survive without themDude its 1200 per person per year. It doesn't make us rich, and missing it wouldn't make us starve.
>>534452648>driving around with a beer between their legsIt’s the local culture. My dad used to do that when I was a kid but he was never drunk, at least not when I was in the vehicle with him, it’s just a cool refreshing beverage perfect for the road.
>>534453992This nigga stupid.As I said.Alberta is Canada's bank account.
>>534453992This guy's a Marlborough Mall / 17th street BBC hunterDon't pay attention to him
>>534453844>broke awayno. canada was "given" independence in 1980, but still adheres to the crown and are part of the commonwealth/ 5eyes. same with aussies, but they have a twinge of American influence compared to canada. which is gayer America that pretends to not be America because of a inferiority complex. quite sad, really.
>>534454037What will you do when your newly elected officials (all with goofy names) tell you that the new Khalberta needs to import millions and millions?You'll have no say remember.
>>534453831>Alberta is canadas bank account.more like canada's gas station. all the bank headquarters are in toronto
>>534454037It would be nice if Alberta could be Alberta's bank account
>>534454031Probably. Here in Quebec the roads are often treacherously icy, shitty, and definitely not that straight (Alberta highways legit announces slight curves 2 miles in advance, shit's hilarious) so I never felt comfortable with drinking and driving, even a 0.05 second of lag makes me uneasy.
>>534454140I'm in ontario waiting for the collapse.We already have a fat fuck libtard who is fucking our province we don't need a jeet to do it for us.
>>534453831I get this funny image of Canada disintegrating through a chain reaction because each province refuses to be the one sucked dry by equalization after the previous one leaves.
>>534454140Then it will be just like your shithole of a country.
>>534454203Keeping your own money isn't a Canadian value.You aren't Canadian unless you're flat broke and the government take it all through taxes.
>>534454057Interesting. It's more messy and gay than I expected it to be.Thanks for educating me briefly about the anglosphere anonFingers crossed for Alaska being part of the mainland someday so it can ease my autism looking at the world map
>>534454260>if (you) have money, the terrorists win!>but if (you) kill the terrorists, they win!
Alberta leaving would immediately start the collapse of Canada because they're the piggy bank province that provides most of the money that Ottawa, Quebec and Ontario sucks up for their welfare and other scams. Once Canada collapses, it'll be much easier to rebuild and America will help them do it.
>>534446520>Get ignored and called Nazis while also being robbed to fund dumb Quebec projectsI mean no shit this was going to happen. Heads will roll before this ever happens though
>>534449754I don't know jack shit about Canada. Can you explain to me how Alberta is relevant to me? Not being sarcastic, actually asking.
>>534454209Oh me too, it was mostly when were out camping or fishing or something in the summer. Canada used to suck less, eh?
>>534454316manifest destiny never stopped anon. its just wild we might see it in our lifetime. actual border changes on the north American continent during a time of nuclear weapons and memes. >what a timeline
>>534454250I was born and raised in B.C. just like you, transplant. The only difference is I didn't run to fort prairie or whatever, where you are now trapped.You should hope the vote fails.
>>534453722They're the texas of canada.
>>534454446>just like youYou are wrong. What now, nigger?
>>534454446The current federal leadership trying to install Agenda 2030 et al is outside of visiting range for the type of people that would do something in Alberta. That shit has a much lower chance of flying if they're out of this godforsaken Confederation run by thieving psychopaths larping as Eurotrash aristocrats/technocrats.
>>534454405Yeah. Although, I'll be honest, I probably suck more too. I have almost no drive to go play in the snow anymore. Living in Montreal broke me, I think. If you keep going outdoors and still see the country that used to be, don't stop, anon.
>>534454383It’s only relevant to America because it has large reserves of landlocked heavy oil. How relevant is North Dakota to you?
>>534446918your newest vassals
>>534454383https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3NenazCbaIwatch this
>>534454446
>>534451059I don't want anything that's automatically going to vote democrat to be a state.Fuck puerto rico especially. Cuba is full of brainwashed commies, it needs to be it's own country.Alberta can only be a state if they kick out all of the immigrants that weren't born in Canada.
The Hurtin' Albertans don't realize how treaty-locked they actually are as well. Wait two weeks you'll find out.>>534454500You tell me.Also we don't sign our posts here.
>>534454693There shouldn't even be a Democrat party. If the DOJ was doing their job it would be functionally dismantled with all the crime their connected NGOs etc have been committing.
>>534454643I've lived in Alberta. It was a shithole. Calgary is a dump. Everyone there was either a fine upstanding melanated gentleman or an Afghani. It's a collection of small towns and villages surrounding a highway junction that LARPs as a city.The entire province in a nutshell. How poetic of me.
Even if Alberta does seperate you'd just have another Brexit where the elite will do as much as they can to punish the population
>>534454694You sign your name with a question mark, faggot?
>>534454694>treatiesYeah those are with canada.Alberta is a country they have no treaties.I guess the natives could fight a war for it this time.
>>534450501BC is the best province by a significant margin. The people are almost as based as the average Albertan and in many cases far more.
>>534454987SO good their courts gave it away and now people can't renew their mortgages.So good!
>>534454537I don't know, is North Dakota relevant to me? I'm uneducated, please spoon feed me
>>534454855With the feds, which signed most of them as representative of the Provinces. Personally I don't think its quite as fatal an argument as many makes it, Alberta only has to show willingness to take over guarantees of the treaties, and Natives will always err on the side of who offers them the most cash, soooo... There are also counterarguments to the one of the Supreme Court, the Treaty thing is far from settled.
>>534455069No with the British government.
>>534454838We don't sign our middle names here either, nerd>>534454855And they can invite anyone in that they want, since those treaties are invalid and they're all rich from Canadian gov't handouts. All those oil outfits operating on reserve land suddenly gets locked down, away from Khalberta, and you're stuck negotiating with Canada for fuel. So, you, stuck in the southern third of the province, will need to fight the Canadian, Chinese, East Indian, and British Armed Forces, who were invited in by the now-trealyless Indians who have to defend their oil fields.KWAB. Medieval LARPing won't train you for that.
>>534451751how did quebec get so poor?>>534446520can't wait until canada is done and we can stop pretending its a real country
I live in Alberta and I know for a fact that it is not separating.
>>534455118Are the Treaties still binding the British Crown? I would have expected all responsibilities to have been transferred as well in 1980, if not well before that.
>>534454260My comment is a bit of a joke, Alberta is legendary for being bad money. They have extracted about the same amount of oil wealth as Norway. Their sovereign wealth fund is less than 1/10th the size of Norway's.
>>534446520We will also take Saskatchewan too. Free guns and hamburgers for all good American Canucks.
>>534455060If you don’t live in North Dakota probably not. It’s the closest state I can think of in terms of geography and relevance. Sparsely populated, flat, shitty weather, largely rural and agricultural and with some petroleum resources. No offence intended to any Albertans or North Dakotans.
>>534455204Oh yeah, one more thing about Calgary. Rabbit infestations EVERYWHERE you look.
>>534455210Probably. Canada never does anything right.Pic related.Alberta would be smart to get the fuck out.
>>534451018>>534451230Doth protest too much
>>534446520eli5 what this meansis Alberta becoming an independent country or will Canada feds just say lol no and dog walk them like brexit where nothing happens for a decade and then they are filled with even more immigrants and the state is more authoritarian
>>534451806>semi import MG34nice.
>>534454537Don't forget all the Nuke silos near the Canadian border...Norad is there.
>>534455376There is enough signature to talk about it happening, but is not actually going to happen
>>534455376>is Alberta becoming an independent countryNo>>534455376>will Canada feds just say lol no and dog walk them like brexit where nothing happens for a decade and then they are filled with even more immigrants and the state is more authoritarianProbably
>>534455157It's that in current year +11 someone actually thinks "don't sign your posts" is new or novel. I guess it's new to you. Right, you vaxxed and boosted reddit nigger, you?
>>534455186They purposely shut down resource extraction for muh climate change
>>534455437oh so the concept of a plan in 2 weeks time
>>534455451Don't try to quote the old magic to me dweeb
>>534453310The japanese will lase the way forward from orbit for us, well mase the way. https://ratedpower.com/blog/japan-solar-power-from-space/Not sci fi here today
>useful idiot - noun>a naive or credulous person who can be manipulated or exploited to advance a cause or political agenda>astroturfing - noun>organized activity that is intended to create a false impression of a widespread, spontaneously arising, grassroots movement in support of or in opposition to something (such as a political policy) but that is in reality initiated and controlled by a concealed group or organization (such as a corporationWhat you are witnessing is not grassroots support for Alberta separatism, but rather targeted influence operations ran against Canada by a coalition of Russian, Indian and American discord groups. While there is a small minority of Albertans who espouse separatist beliefs, it remains an extremist, fringe position put forth by the lowest educated rural voters. These people are being manipulated and riled up by sophisticated operations designed to demoralize Canadians and Albertans and divide us against each other so we can be devoured by the behemoth to our south.Make no mistake: there would be no statehood in our future, no cordial relations for us as a landlocked third country in the middle of two nations. We would be an American territory like Puerto Rico within the year (see how long they've been waiting for statehood). You and everyone you know would lose: your health care, your pension, and all the other benefits that accrue from being part of a community of provinces. You and everyone you know would have their quality of life decrease, drastically.Do not delude yourself. When twitter/x briefly showed the true locations of separatist agitators, they were Russian and Indian. Wake up.
Alberta separatists are bankrolled by right wing Americans so those that signed the petition are already traitors
>>534446825NW+YK+AB would clear a path to Alaska
>>534447038Oh yeah? Well NOT replying this will reverse every passed cursed back into you, no immunities work on text based posts like this, and NOT reading it DOESN'T keep it from affecting you, faggot triple nigger
>>534455157Those oil companies can afford security and the Country of Alberta won't stop them from using their own equipment,.If the natives are stupid enough to try shit they might not make to the next pow wow.The Chinese will make friends with the sovereign nation of Alberta and arm them like they arm the Houthis and Iran.
>>534455600That is me in the picture.
>>534446520this petition is entirely non-viable now that it's public knowledge that separatist retards being paid directly by the us republicans disseminated the full albertain voter roll. Meaning the organizers and supporters of the petition had both means and motive for forge millions of signatures. We were winning, and i guess decided to fuck everything up completely.
>>534455661Would you be surprised to find out your reserves all over the province are full of foreign soldiers already, just waiting for this moment?I bert you will be quite surprised.
>>534455600Except the cruise ship is on fire and the passengers on it are hitting each other over the head with deck chairs while the ship sinks.
>>534455684Sounds like an antidemocratic conspiracy theory bud
>>534455730Just say its a carnival cruise
>>534455717Lmao bring it on. Alberta will be free.
Unlike Scotland and Quebec, the Alberta separatists don't have any historical cause for separation...they just spew nonsense they saw on facebook as the reason they should separate.
>>534455717Yeah Chinese ready to help the nation of Alberta so they can get the spoil's of canadas implosion.Xi doesn't start wars he's a crafty.He'll offer infrastructure and weapons in exchange for global dominance.
>>534455717Pull the trigger RanjeetPull it now
>>534455684The entire movement glows, but not even in a funny way.I've outed a few of these nerds on twitter as feds, just for fun. It's not worth it.
>>534450572>denying a sovereign nation access to coast waterlmao aren't you giving up huge chunks of Vancouver to indigenous tribes?
>>534455186>how did quebec get so poor?We started poor. France was never a great colonial manager, we had essentially a medieval economic system in place when the Anglos took over. They proceeded to treat us like cattle for a good while. They'll deny it, but its true. My granddad started roofing at .20 a day, 1$ a week. And no, lower cost of life didn't compensate, especially not in the 1920s, a dollar a week wasn't a living wage, hell it wasn't a feeding wage. Shit's changed since then, but at a much slower pace than in the rest of Canada, for various reasons. We're cash starved. Investments in the Province have always been a bit less solid, but they've taken a pretty heavy downturn following the 2020s. Hoping the focus on increasing metal scarcity and rare earth metals will change that, but hey, whatever. The population is on average very old. That problem will solve itself within 10-20 years, I guess, but others will take its place. Public health commitments expending to such a large portion of the population comes at a huge cost. We've kept Hydro-Quebec a state company. It allows us to feed ~75% of the Province's energetic needs at the lowest cost in North America, it pays 1 billion in dividend each yeah, but it naturally doesn't play well on the energy asset market magic board. We're also committed to public education access at higher levels (not free, but around 1200 a session, so the Province must heavily subsidize the rest). Also>>534454574This shit is disingenuous. Quebec was recipient of equalization before 1995. Harper, in 2010, is the main architect of the calculation which admittedly has seen our equalization jump nearly 35%. While it may have been strategically set to make sure no more solid sovereignist movement rose in Quebec, it certainly wasn't a negotiation that happened as a result after.
>>534455745kek
>>534455786It was promised to them by Albert
>>534455840Whiter than you>>534455823You have no idea what's been planned for you for years
>>534455845why does it?
>>534455888Kek
This is a migger, Trump plot to weaken Canada. It's literally election collusion.
THIS BOARD WON'T GET OFF OUR DICK
>>534446957Can’t even win a war against Iran nor annex Greenland and you want to annex Alberta? Kek. The emperor has no clothes. America has become the equivalent of a toothless dog that barks at the mailman; literally all bark and no bite, all talk and no action. The country that you think still exists has died years ago and you haven’t begun to process this fact.
>>534455786does alberta have a right to exist
>>534455912You're an idiot.
>>534446825Why would they. They're not stupid.
>>534455921So you don't know?
>>534455987It has a right to defend itself.
>>534455988I'm just trying to save you some grief. You've been notified, now it can happen and it's like you gave permission
>>534447038Kill yourself you subhuman bong
>>534456037Show hand
>>534455912Years of "canadian" planning. Pathetic. Canada can't even support its citizens, it needs foreigners to continue to "compete" with the US. Canada is going to be the first G7 country to fall apart in less than a year once alberta leaves.
>>534456082You first. You already showed your ass.
You only catch flak if you're over targetIf this was doomed, they wouldn't be spamming 24/7 FUD about itThe jeets will be sent back to their sewer where their species belongs
>>534456103>no U!GJ Visajeet.
>>534456091>Years of "canadian" planning.Dawg. backroom deals between the indian bands and foreign countries have been happening for 20 years now, while you are completely oblivious.
>>534455783>>534455840>be alberta separatist>"this time we’re serious guys, fuck carney and his carbon tax">stock up on SKSs, dragon dildos, and 40 cases of anal lube>form “militia” consisting of 200 fat guys in camo hoodies, lifted F-150s, and one (1) actual ex-cadpat>we’ll just declare independence bro, what are they gonna domeanwhile Canadian Armed Forces:>actual army with LAVs, Leopard tanks that haven’t been driven since 2008 but still run better than your truck, CF-18s, and a navy that exists purely to make you seethe>logistics train backed by Tim Hortons supply drops and infinite poutine>they don’t even need to invade, they just roll up with 50 regular force guys and a dozen reservists from Saskatoon>your entire “revolution” lasts 45 minutes before you’re all crying in a hockey rink parking lot while some lieutenant from Quebec reads you your rights in perfect English>”sorry about the flashbangs eh”lmao imagine thinking rural and suburan retards larping with a SKS could beat a country that won every world war and put an end to the Holocaust. Stay in your lane, hicks. The only thing getting separated is your truck from its catalytic converter when you try to flee to Montana.
>>534456128We don't sign our posts here
>>534447038cunt
>>534456147You forgot your VPN againor did your boss just want to save a shekel
>>534446520So like, we gonna fold them into Montana?
>>534455921all of the big proponents of separatism like Rath and Keith Wilson have multiple monetization schemes based out of the usa, refuse to release any kind of income statements, and Rath has a history of being compromised by everyone from the Injun mafia, to the rcmp as a snitch.
>>534447038fell for it again award
>>534456216Nah they can be their own based TX of the north
>>534456147The US lost to farmers on more than one occasion.What does that say about the effectiveness of armies in current year?
>>534456116> TheyAs if you could meaningfully differentiate through the American psyop to Canadian psyop dynamic and identify which caused which. Like the gayest ouroboros ever.
>>534453407Dude your dad moved to Alberta from Ontario 20 years ago when you were 11
>>534446520New Hampshire born and raised here. Explain what exactly changes if Quebec becomes French instead of Canadian, and why I should care?
>>534446918It's oil, it's wheat, it's soil, it's meat. It's beef.
>>534456143Meh don't hedge your bets on a foreign army and the native chug a lugs.
>>534456299Alberta is a relatively thin strip of land, let's be honest. They could get pincered in such a comical way. I hope you like foursomes because you're about to be entered from three different sides at once.
>>534456390China will own the land and the oil. That's what the deals were for.
>>534456147You being so pissed about this is, is all i need to know that my province is on the right path. Get fucked kike.
>>534446520Fat chance. Only a few inbred home schooled retards will vote for separation.Alberta isn't going anywhere.
>>534456403The west blocked by FUCKING MOUNTAINSThe south is the USThe North is impassable 10 months out of the year and the east is so flat you could see them coming from miles away.Fuck you're dumb.
>>534456361Quebec would essentially decide if they rather be Chinese/Indian (New Canadian) or North African (New French)
>>534456434Yeah I doubt it. If us albertans can't kill the foreign army you claim is here than the us will step in and wipe out the chinks so they can't have it. Could care less what eastern cunts, shitskins and kikes say. At this point bring the shit on.
>>534456434Its funny all that bloviating about not being a US state only to crawl to Xi and beg to be a Chinese province.
>>534451104Either....>A shitskin/brain fecaloid>Nigger loving, kike worshiping cuck from ontario (maybe quebec. Both of them are fucking worthless parasites)>Based anon (likely from Alberta or the West) trying to push Albertans into doing something.I'm always open to the possibility of the last option. But I respond assuming that isn't the case. This guy is a faggot or nigger-adjacent. Even so. Keep talking faggot. When people outside Canada talk about based Canadians, they only talk about Albertans. Whole world knows Eastern Canadians are fucking scum, Equal to Californians.Big talk, Parasites, Contribute nothing but using bullshit politics to turn their own homes into nigger infested shit holes, and force that on the rest of us, believe the rest of canada would be worse off without them. (the reverse is true)Enjoy brammmpton, nigger.
>>534456488So you've never looked at a map?You are so clueless.
>>534456434This nigga never heard of the belt and road initiative.Not surprising he's pretty stupid.
>>534456507The US is already every african so good mix.
>>534456583I don't think you know where Alberta is.
>>534456507It was already full of coal black groids and oil drilling Frenchmen in the 2010's from what I've seen.
>>534456620please stop replying to the jeetsave your (You)s for humans
>>534447038fuck off with this image shit
>>534456534>If us albertans can't kill the foreign army you claim is hereYou can't. I don't want to see people I know get vaporized by a drone made out of cardboard. You guys are F'd either way. >the us will step in and wipe out theMileikowsky won't let Trump do that
>>534456403>The government is going to us military tactics to retake Alberta! There is no way that wouldn't back fire.>If Alberta secedes, They'll literally become North American North Korea!I know people like to be hyperbolic and assume the worst. But none of that is going to happen. And all this is just one of many steps thats been taken by canadians lately to peacefully unfuck this country or at least preserve a small corner of it as much as possible. And more steps are to come.
Remember Scotland? No NHS, no independence. Boomers aren't giving up national health care you tools.
>>534456361>Explain what exactly changes if Quebec becomes French instead of Canadian, and why I should care?You would stop having to tip in Montreal restaurants? Probably not stripper club tho. I really don't know enough about France's stripper culture, come to think about it. Then again, probably not the best of gents to hang around.
>>534456534China won't attack.They aren't stupid enough to get caught in a costly pointless war.They'll just buy what they want because money is no object to them.
>>534456620Just the Trans-Canada alone would move enough troops from B.C. to Alberta to stomp you dweebs. I guess you haven't been west of the rockies lately and you haven't seen the massive highway upgrading projects that will allow that movement. You are so gay and dumb.
>>534456723>They'll literally become North American North Korea!With the amount leaving in transfer payments alberta could send as many rockets into space as spacex per year
>>534452586Look at the difference in turnout for the same event (delivering the v ballots to elections Alberta) the forever canada signatures are fake as fuck, I never even saw a single person or event collecting signatures for that cause, not 1. The stay free alberta people we’re out every day and I saw them every time I left my house with people signing for the entire duration.
>>534456147Did you forget to turn off your VPN, heebcel?If Alberta does separate, you'll be dealing with people in the military who are sympathetic to the cause and who will likely side with/help the separatists. Crawl back into the oven, worm.>t. reg force
>>534456534>the us will step inThe King's pretty little orange boy won't give him any trouble, no he won't, he'll be a good pretty little orange boy, yes he will.
>>534456723>The government is going to us military tactics to retake Alberta!They only have to take out a couple dozen already identified targets and that's it. The whole thing is over.
>>534456766I don't think any army is stupid enough to use a single road to attack.You are fucking dumbDUMB DUMB DUMB
>29 posts by this pajeet
>Canada>lives next to literally the richest country in the world that controls the petrodollar>instead of kissing ass and just doing everything they can to support America they run away and try to kiss ass with europe and china instead Why is canada like this?
>>534456817> half of those people will have been MAIDed by October 19th. Lol, ok.
>>534456872You are so spiritually brown and dumb.Please post your hand.
>>534456830You'll be the first against the wall, traitor.
>>534456896Canada's mode d'etre is to not be like America.Everything considered Canadian culture is to show that we are not like Americans.We are a petty people.
>>534446877>>534449754Did you guys miss the point that Quebec got mostly what it wanted and I just imagine a night-time Chateau Frontenac with Imperial French horns blaring as the voice of Charles de Galle blares across loudspeakers, an ornate room full of Quebec politicians waits as an English Canadian team swallows their determination and concedes, Quebecois flipping the election to 0.1% in favor of staying, as they smile gently and confidently while the Anglophones have pert lips and handshake, Champaign bottles pop open as the Quebecois celebrate their coercion of the anglophones once again behind closed doors, while the rest of Canada thinks the referendum was defeated, the Quebecois and Anglophones will always know and remember who truly won that night.MUSIC:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vn2t2nkAFWU&pp=ygUjYm91cmJvbiByZXN0b3JhdGlvbiBub3J3ZWdpYW4gYmFyb24%3D
>>534456973Nah, its only that you are so retarded, those are the only terms available to you to explain your disgust. You are a morbid degenerate, and need the world to reflect yourself, or it hurts you in your delusions.
>>534451949>i..s..swear we'll kill you...*sniff*Your brown imported cannonfodder and faggot tranny officers will shit themselves once the bullets and drones start flying.>>534456946lol lmao evenTraitor to what exactly, kike?
>>534457061Its a nice Chateau. I went to school next to it, having the Ramparts as a schoolground was pretty dope. Fuck, I wish I had a King. I feel like life would be better if I did. Well, you know. A French King. Fuck.
>>534457092https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG5sk1BXNaM&t=83sHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH!
>>534456748Does Canada get tourists anymore? I wouldn't go there. I bet Asians who can't suss out an accurate picture of current events might.
>>534446918My female Uncle(Tia idk how to say it in english)
>>534457474Montreal and Quebec City still does. French folks love to come here and snowshoe or dogsled and other stuff like that. Those are incidentally the places with the least jeets.
>>534457502LikeFat Albert-aThere's nothing to it, it just sounds like an ugly name (pretty much all of our Provinces have ugly names to be fair)
>>534455533>Jamniggers and trannies running a propooganda discord for alberta separatismPls post screenshots saar, sounds funny
>>534447038nothing ever happens
>>534447038Kys
>>534455533Well shilled, Chaim.
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