why does it make you so angry when someone doesn't want kids?>A) because it's a lot of work and sacrifice and you should suffer like i'm suffering>B) because my kids need someone lower on the totem pole to take advantage of, otherwise they'll be taken advantage of>C) i'm very jealous of childless people because i fucked up and wish i could have chased my dreams instead of grinding away for my family to barely survive>D) because it's very rewarding and fulfilling and my anger and hatred towards you is definitely a complex form of those feelings>E) because i don't want my kids to die alone when they're scalped by feral bioweapon nigger>F) because my Jewish masters have brainwashed me into encouraging and incentivizing the goycattle breeding program for them>G) Other, please specify
>>534470878Kids are overrated
>>534470878im not bringing kids into this police state are you kidding, you think im going to have a family in weimerica? we have a pedophile president no im good, im not subjecting my kids to the future this fucking pedophile is ushering in.
>>534470878I love having kids, it's great. That said, most of you should never breed. Ever.
>>534470981>I don't want kids because of DrumpfLol, unironically a wise choice.
>>534470878>>F) because my Jewish masters have brainwashed me into encouraging and incentivizing the goycattle breeding program for themWait i thought jews were supposed to replace us with their poop bioweapon?But now they want white babies too?
>>534471021>Yeah well you're so retarded and dysgenic that you definitely shouldn't breedAlmost forgot that passive aggressive seething. Conveniently anti-natalist when they're losing the argument.
>>534470878>Jews want you to have white childrenLol. Lmao.
>>534471114They need just enough whites for the system to limp along on their backs. And if browns don't have whitey to blame, they'll aim their aggression entirely at Jews.
>>534470878hello?too many peoplehumans have destroyed planet earthbillions must diesads
>>534471086someone else is going to have to prop up this banana republic because i absolutely refuse to do so, im not lifting a fucking finger for you, you're going to need to import more tax slaves from the 3rd world and continue the decension into south africa because im not helping you, on principle i refuse.
>>534470921millennials are so cringe
>>534470878Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.
>>534471118No, I really think most people on this planet should not be breeding. We have 8 billion people here now and the vast majority are fucking retards. We don't need more retards. We desperately need to stop the retards from having more retards. Fuck, at this point we even need the none retards to not breed as much. Just the fact you don't want kids puts you on the list of the ones who don't need kids.
>>534470878>why does it make you so angry when someone doesn't want kids?it doesn't.i would prefer it if large swaths of liberals never reproduced.and, they're not.so, i'm happy.
>>534471253>someone else is going to have to prop up this banana republic because i absolutely refuse to do soSure you will. You'll continue to consume and pay taxes at least on the things you consume. That's the life blood of this clown circus, consumerism. And, you'll be right here with us all as this place gets browner.
>>534471377I generally agree with you but that puts you squarely in the anti-natalist camp. Population will suffer catastrophic collapse and most world and social order will break down. Just making sure you're aware you're advocating for a server reset for your descendants.
>>534471253>someone else is going to have to prop up this banana republic because i absolutely refuse to do so, im not lifting a fucking finger for you, you're going to need to import more tax slaves from the 3rd world and continue the decension into south africa because im not helping you, on principle i refuse.case in point, lol.
>>534471558im a jobless neet who has never paid taxes ever, i have not contributed financially to this country ever in my life so no i wont
>>534471589if you've ever bought anything from a store, ever, (and you have)then you have paid taxes and contributed.thank you for your service, lol.
>>534470878G) if the person is white and halfway sane.Your other provocative responses suggest a certain immaturity. I hope you’re not white.
>>534470878They won't spell it out but they are afraid of death. Kid is a symbol of being alive for them.
>>534471744i've never bought anything with my own money ever, i don't make money, never have so no i haven't.
>>534471744not one dollar of my own money has ever financially moved through the us economy, not ever.
Something like>If I have 10 kids then me being dead is no problemsKids give them peace and security.
>>534471785ah, hyperbole. it's 100% guaranteed that you don't grow your own food or spin your own clothes.>>534471845okay, lol. well, at any rate, just keep on not reproducing.thanks!
>>534471941See. This guy is afraid of not reproducing. It's a fear of Death.
>>534471589Yes the fuck you do and yes the fuck you will continue to. Every single time you buy something you pay taxes. And, every time you buy any garbage slop the goy domestic product line goes up. Which means they can borrow more money. So, yes, just your goy eater presence helps support the shit show.>>534471567>Population will suffer catastrophic collapse and most world and social order will break downI don't believe so. It will slowly decline. Kikes like to scare people by saying it will be the end of the world. When it will actually just be the end of their fiscally retarded line go up debt ponzi scheme they have going.>you're aware you're advocating for a server reset for your descendantsI don't see any other way forward for them. Because, if something doesn't change there will 20 billion people here when they are old. That isn't sustainable.
>>534471941i will, and i'll continue to circumvent the us economy and undermine you at every possible turn, every chance i get to take advantage of the system im going to maximize, watch.
>>534470878Look at this shit and tell me that we need more kids.We need to obliterate India and Africa and then men will need to go back to working REAL jobs like garbage men and factory workers, and women need to become stay-at-home wives again. And then all will be well.
>>534471980i don't buy anything though, i don't even go to the store i've been to a store maybe 2-3 dozen times in my life, everything is done on my behalf so no i don't and haven't
>>534470878I look like this and say this
>>534471976>This guy is afraid of not reproducing.lol, no.leave it to some childless dumbshit to confuse love with fear.my kids are living manifestations of the love between my wife and i.i don't voluntarily wipe butts because i'm afraid of dying; i do it because i love my kids.
>>534471785Asshole
>>534471981okay, thanks!that'll really show me, lol.
>>534472083the feeling is mutual you fucking faggot i hate this country and the people, i pray everyday to get my citizenship revoked and sent to literally anywhere else so i can start over and actually be productive for my host country in all the ways i absolutely refuse to do here in the united states, the fact that i was born here pisses me off, i hate you and this country and all it represents death to america.
>>534472070Doubt it. It's fear that drive you to fuck that low-tier bitch. I can see the insecurity you have from your words.
>>534471785It doesn't matter if it was your money, your mom's money, or the government's money, because it was fake money anyway. You took the monopoly money and you spent it at the circus and now the show can go on.
>>534472148it was your tax dollars friend, so the real thanks should go to you for subsidizing me, now get back to work so i can buy more things on your dime.
>>534470878it implies they are a selfish human being that only cares about what directly pleasures & benefits them and nothing more.these people aren't part of society, they just exist in it.
>>534470878Not having kids is is exactly what jews want whites to do
>>534472136lmao.mother's day is sunday.my oldest is going to cook eggs on the stove and the youngest is picking flowers.all of the kids are going to make her cards.none of that is driven by fear, lol.i think, perhaps, just maybe, you are projecting.
>>534472248Why should I have kid, when I can be a literal Immortal?
>>534470981He's not a paedo you dolt. Why are you here instead of reddit?
>>534472258It's people like you that want me to have kids. Because I am a threat to your peace and safety.
>>534472025Do you grow your own food? How the fuck did you get the device you're posting with? Where do you get the internet? The electricity? Money is spent on you just to exist in this society. You contribute to the retarded system just by existing and consuming in this country. Regardless of where the money came from or who actually went to the store you still spend and consume, you are part of the gdp. That is your contribution here in clown world.
>>534472197>he thinks I have a jobLol
>>534472356don't worry about my methods, all you need to know is not one dollar of my own has ever financially moved through the us economy, the logistics and know how of that are none of your business.
>>534472341>It's people like you that want me to have kids. Because I am a threat to your peace and safety.according to you, you don't want kids and you want immortality.why would i want to stand in your way?by all means, don't reproduce and attain immortality.
Kids are just pseudo-immortality for a mortal.
>>534472439Because in my immortality life, I may see your entire bloodlines as a trash, and kill them all.
>uhhh i dont want to bring kids into this world!!nigga just say you dont want kids. you dont have to make up lore.
>>534472570Short live species tend to breed a lot, but that is in contradiction to my existence. I will live literal Eternity. Kids can be like a baggage I can never cut off.
>>534472538>Because in my immortality life, I may see your entire bloodlines as a trash, and kill them all.nah, it's way funnier to think about you floating alone in the darkness of space without heat or food.immortality, amiright?when you have kids (you won't, so i have to explain this to you) eventually you have to come to peace with the fact that the last step in parenthood is dying and that eventually your kids will also die.just by being born, they have been condemned to die.but, then you'll realize (well, you won't, lol) that they're also being condemned to watch sunrises and sunsets, chasing puppies in the yard, falling in love and having babbies of their own.with respect to your retard-tier edgelord statement, i say, 'meh'.you're outnumbered, afterall.
>>534471258For once it wasn't a gen x being labeled as a millennial. You're finally starting to learn
>>534470878Many people grew up in a culture that disparaged, disapproved, mocked and generally insulted people who had children when they were poor, immature or otherwise unready.All that happened is that they listened to that advice and criticism.This whole discussion personally feels like one giant fucking psyop, online you'll hear some dickhead talking about how sad it is that people aren't having kids and how actually it isn't that hard and you don't need that much to startBut then you return to real life and whenever a young poor couple has kids they can barely afford every geriatric nosy cunt over 40 calls them irresponsible Where's the sentiment that it's so fucking great out in the real world? The praises of parents are an illusion of the internet, you will not be honoured or respected in reality.Especially by older people, they are particularly fucked in the head on this topic.
>>534472746It's funny for you to think that when you are just a powerless mortal who know jack shit, why do you think you are not the one who will float in that Void after death?You are breeding more souls, so that they can see Hell.Which is your destiny after Dying.
>>534470878No woman with tail = no kids
>>534472688>living for eternity as a jeetThat sounds awful.
>>534473169I live for eternity with God Almighty.Everyone else can die and go to Hell.
>>534470878I’m just not gonna do it is all. Let the goyim produce more slaves for their masters to diddle as they please.
>>534470878I’m never having kids because I can’t find a woman I’d trust to actually have any with and frankly I don’t see myself as worthy of any of that. I’d probably be a dogshit father and just cause more problems for society.
>>534472310>He's not a paedo you dolt.How are you faggots STILL coping about this?
It's a protestant thing. They interpret "be fruitful and multiply" as a command and a command to every person ever, so anyone without kids is disobeying God by their retarded interpretation.
>>534473685he's right tho
>>534470878it’s not very complicated OP… >there are young women not having kids right now en masse>they are instead living degenerately and having loads of fun>this enrages virgins on pol >they want to see those women punished same reason weed drives this board crazy. the thought of people having fun and not paying for it drives the incel insane.
>>534470878I think black and brown people shouldn't have kids.They will just grow up to be goy slaves. Nobody deserves that.
>>534472258>b-but think of all the puppydogs and rainbows!!who cares man. That kid is growing up in a broken, evil world functionally indistinguishable from hell and every atomic unit of suffering they experience is your fault
>>534473853You are breeding more kids to be these Incel you hate. No, they will never become who you want them to be. You have no control ove their existence.
>>534471567Post hand and wall socket you larping mudshit lol
>Random strangers on the internet are losing sleep about me being a kissless virgin.
>>534470878This seems like an imaginary problem. Maybe your parents encourage you to have kids? The reality is tho, I discourage people who don't want kids from having kids. It's literally a situation of ensuring their spiteful mutant genes die off. Too many retards had too many kids and that gave us the Baby boomers, and it's don't catastrophic damage to the gene pool. So many good men died in WW1 and WW2, which allowed bad men to reproduce during the post war booms. Now we have a country on the verge of collapse because we have millions who think men can be women
>>534470878Story time: My brother has 2 sons with one of the most vindictive bitches on the planet. The bitch makes his life a living hell and the fucking idiot decided to have 2 kids with the bitch. Long story short she has the nigga on child support and my brother, despite having a good job is now living in Dominican Republic to avoid the bitch. He has no car, or house because Everytime he gets one, the mother of his kids finds a way to ruin those things for him. What's even funnier is he often talk about how today is full of "weak men" and how I need to have kids to start a "legacy" but he's not fooling anyone. The guy is miserable and just wants someone to be miserable with. I will always love my brother and my nephews but this nigga would put the 2 kids back in the womb if he could. The moral of the story is, only have kids with the person you truly love and if you have the financial means to.
>>534470878Please do not have kids, OP.
>>534471263You're my favourite copypaster.>>534471771It's either that or even denser copes like legacy. I understand loving your children, but I've read and heard that even with that, a lot of fathers wouldn't do it again with the foreknowledge of what it would be like. It's just self-sacrifice.>>534472214We live in a society.
>>534471118>>534471186>>534471567You're extremely angry that people have agreed with you that you shouldn't breed.
>>534473769>implying the average Catholic has the common sense to interpret it differentlyNormies are the same everywhere my dude.
>>534472538WTF are you on about? Lost common sense here.
>>534474449What part of it don't you understand?
>>534474330It isn't catholic doctrine and we aren't taught it whereas protestants are. It's the same with zionism. "Why are so many americans judeophilic zionists?" Because they're protestants who are taught to be that way from a young age.
Taking out the trash. House cleaning. That's common sense, no?
>>534474519Well first of all, it's not grammatically correct English, but whatever meaning I do find in it is unhinged. You will kill someone's bloodline in your immortality? Are you even a Christian?>>534474658Most Catholics aren't taught anything. I agree they're generally better than protestants, but the average Catholic doesn't go to church or goes to some Vatican II slop church with obnoxiously merry songs sang by kids. They don't have a clue about anything.Source: my father.
>>534473805>he's right thoKys pedo lover. I bet you believe Trump hiding the full Epstein files makes America great again.
ITT: timmies speedrunning white replacement while crying about white replacement
>>534471086>>534470981You child is going to more than 2 years lmao fucking timmys
>>534470878Nobody is angry at retards not having children.Still, the negative feeling comes from two Gs.>G1) We're in a fucking demographic war>G2) You will regret not having kids. You will regret having just few kids. Having a lot of kids is the normal, below two means you failed at life. If you have them too late as a woman it means you're fucking your progeny too. >G3) People without kids, especially women, tend to become a burden upon society.
>>534475037White replacement is immigration of lesser races, not the dwindling of our own. We'd only live better if we reduced our numbers with our borders firmly closed. Not that you'd know anything about good living.
>>534475144Completely delusional post. It's like you're living under a rock. Congratulations.
>>534474733Idk about in Croatia but we have CCD which is like the Catholic equivalent of Sunday School.>>534474926>>>/reddit/
>>534472917>But then you return to real life and whenever a young poor couple has kids they can barely afford every geriatric nosy cunt over 40 calls them irresponsibleSo? Who fucking cares?Would someone ever two generations or more behind us not reproduce because of that?
>>534474658That's literally Catholic doctrine.That's literally Christian doctrine everywhere.It's fucking written, what are you doubting about it?Liberals (and therefore America) and Socialists have always been anti Christian.
People not having kids is part of the race to the bottom as if you have no stake in the future, you can even more easily tolerate everything going to shit. So if say 50% of millenial men and women end up childless, that's 50% of the resistance out of the way immediately.It's the sad irony where only the men with families would have some stake but they can't sacrifice anything because of the family, meanwhile why would someone childless fight for others just to be made fun of?And if you want to know where I stand in this. I fully expect to die alone without kids and I have zero friends with kids or even distant relatives with kids in my day to day life so I have zero stake.
>>534475132Learn English, you dumb shit eater.
>>534475240What do you mean? Why? Can't you write a propper case for yourself? Why reply like a faggot and adding nothing?Please explain yourself!
>>534475347Ps. Obviously a lot of the families and kids of the 50% having kids are not fighting back either so the percentage is even lower, but the elites don't even have to kill the kids of people who just don't have them.
>>534474733Immortal life demands eternal war.
>>534475320Why do you think Catholics and the Orthodox have monks?
>>534470878It's because they have daughters that they know are sluts and want someone to be gullible enough to move them out of the house.
>>534475538Good find, but honestly I am unmoved. Weather it is a precept or whatever else is mute. Because God told us to do just that.If you want to throw stones at it at least say it's from the Old Testament. I think it applies to post Christ world too although one could argue it was not said directly to Chrisitans...Anyway monks are people who dedicate their lives to Christ and the Church or whatever. They are not normal folk. There is a Christianity to normal people in the world.And then there is a super Christianity to those who want to spend their life in this world preparing for the next and following the example of Christ. Monks are not model Christians.In the same way that we cannot all be Monks.Or priests.
God always give me war, and I love God for that.
>>534475369It's a lot to dismantle so I'm reluctant, but I'll give it to you since you ask so nicely.>>G1) We're in a fucking demographic warSee >>534475170. Race to the bottom doesn't fix this "demographic" war. We're just getting invaded. The solution is Reconquista, not imitating the turd-worlders.>>G2) You will regret not having kids. You will regret having just few kids. Having a lot of kids is the normal, below two means you failed at life. If you have them too late as a woman it means you're fucking your progeny too.If it were a rule, it wouldn't be discussed and considered. Instead, people often regret having kids and those who didn't are rejoiced. Furthermore, you can't explain how 1 or 2 kids is "failing at life" compared to 3+. If anything, the people with fewer kids have it better, as do the kids themselves.>>G3) People without kids, especially women, tend to become a burden upon society.Everyone who lives to be 80 is a burden on society. Civilisation runs on labour and taxes. Kids are just the next iteration of meat for the grinder. However, if people were necessary, they would be treated that way instead of being locked out of home ownership and picrel, so we can conclude that automation has taken away the jobs and humans are no longer welcome on this world in the number they exist in.>b-but why do they import the migrants, then?Because they're self-hating, mentally ill or paid in shekels.
Its only in right wing circles on the internet where you find people who talk about how dumb it is to vote.Its only in the white circles on the internet where you find people who talk about how dumb it is to have kids.
I don't want to have kids because all the wrong people told me "not to have kids when young" are now telling me I need to settle down now that I'm 30 and tired and to waste all my cash on an old roastie instead of young cuties, all of which are big nonos for me. You don't want kids because you're a redditor who reads XKCD. We are not the same.
>>534475980The people, and the ruler have different mindset. In the mind of a ruler, they need more people to have more power. In the mind of a citizen, they are afraid of migrants taking their jobs.
CEO needs more customers.Employees need more comfort.
>>534470878Pedophiles deserve to live in a world where everything is dying and decaying and brown like them. Pedophiles deserve to have everything taken away from them and broken.
>>534475708Kek. Can't undo the sex revolution, though. Why marry a woman that's been with others and you'll get bored of when you can just keep playing the field?>>534475753God also flooded the world (if anyone can seriously believe that) in order to extinguish mankind. What is it with Christians and selective understanding? Never mind the fact that the Bible is fuckhuge and you're basing the argument on the creation myth part which already tends to be considered allegorical.>>534476087Almost like right wing whites are the most intelligent beings on the planet.>>534476177True. The rulers and the ruled live in constant opposition to each other.
>>534471221malthusian hogshitcurrent estimates of carrying capacity put it well over 12b just using current farmland, can easily push it to 20 if we do some things that make ecologists cry but the earth is fucked thanks to the industry of the last century anyway so i say throw numbers at an improved education system and hope someone figures out geo scale atmosphere processing before shit gets really bad
>>534476360Didn't read his infographic but I'm sure he's talking about pollution and destruction of nature.
>>534470878I think the people telling you to have kids and the people excusing abortion are both simping for whores.
>>534475980>Muh ReconquistaNo, you do not understand. Europeans used to be 33% of the world now we're barely above 5% and ready to plunge into 2% in the next 50 years if trends continue. And the reconquista of Portugal ended in 1249 and after a period of problems it went into Morocco in 1415 - they were Christian before the moslems arrived there after all, and anyway that was to become OUR land and Ceuta is still majority white and Christian to this day.It continued with the conquest of Northern Morocco and the finding of new lands in the Azores, North Africa, North America, and then the age of exploration and conquest.In 1492 the Castillans ended their Reconquista and started conquering the Americas.The Catalans too spread in the Mediterranean all the way to Southern Italy. And loved to beat moslems in the sea.You see, anon, a Reconquista never ends. You can't just take back your country and hope for the rest. Because the rest of the Croatian world will eventually fuck you up. Europeans need to be at least 50% of the world to the West of the pajeet-chink dominated lands in Asia. The demographic war / Reconquista never ends.Everybody rejoices having kids, even if they are scared at first.You should go to an elderly home and talk to those who did not have kids and tell me how life has been for them.You are unironically being against nature here.Many people who have kids and reach the age of 80 are not *such* a burden to society, they are a burden to their families who take care of them as God and nature intended.Civilisation does not run on labour and taxes.It runs of faith and blood (children, generations, dynasties, etc)Don't fall for jewish memes, anon. The massive importation of shitskins makes complete sense if you do it to pay the debt, maintain the current financial system that requires eternal growth, etc. But it can only be done by unChristians who hate the populations they want to replace.
>>534471118Our galaxy deserves to be lifeless. No life on Earth or Mars or anywhere because humans are a pedophile species and must be cast into an eternal burning void
>>534476391they can calm down anyway since humans seem to have a social carrying capacity thing going on, the global population is set to stabilize around 10b if is is as ought
>>534476582Not according to the mouse utopia experiment. The mouse eventually reached 100% extinction rate.
>>534476649>The mouse eventually reached 100% extinction rate.Based
>>534476346>Kek. Can't undo the sex revolution, thoughLolWhy not? How do you even say that?How many times were (((sexual revolutions))) reverted to normal decency?All men prefer to be lords of their own destiny and father of their children than cucks and or fathers of literal whores. Which of the forks in the road do you think is the fruit of nature and which is the fruit of subversion? Oh and you can't keep playing the field forever.You can always buy whores if you have money, sure, but it's not the same thing.And you can't even live forever... You're in for a rude awakening anon, by 25 we're significantly aged, by 35 we're fucking old. And "playing the field" should be for a higher purpose. Do you enjoy "playing the field" or "a nice girl"? What is the means and what is the end? I don't understand your anti Christian tirade. Repent. Convert. Educate yourself.Oh! And you're not right wing. Not right wing at all.
>>534476532>No, you do not understand.>Europeans used to be 33% of the world now we're barely above 5% and ready to plunge into 2% in the next 50 years if trends continue.Our numbers only increased since then. Were we underpopulated then? No? Then how are we underpopulated now? Could it be that the others are just overpopulating?>Europeans need to be at least 50% of the world to the West of the pajeet-chink dominated lands in Asia.>The demographic war / Reconquista never ends.That's a hopeful thought for someone who can't even manage to live in an ethnically pure nation (whites in general). Learn to walk before you can learn to run.>You should go to an elderly home and talk to those who did not have kids and tell me how life has been for them.Did you do that? Does anyone? Those who want kids but don't have them are upset. Those that don't want and don't have them aren't.>You are unironically being against nature here.Nature isn't purely good. It for one doesn't care about your well being over reproduction and it is well known that men engage in self-destructive behaviour in hope to attain sexual privileges. If nature were good, we wouldn't have ran away from it to our artificial environments.Anyway, mostly delusion from you. Too religious instead of rational.
>>534476726>Lol>Why not? How do you even say that?>How many times were (((sexual revolutions))) reverted to normal decency?Usually they were just conquered by other cultures. Sure, that's a fix, I guess. Islam is the future of Europe, then.>>534476726>You can always buy whores if you have money, sure, but it's not the same thing.It's not, but it's not that different. Many times I read that whores are even better. Having been with many, a lot of whores are disappointing in the sack, and having heard or read from people in relationships, it's often the same. Difference is: I have no commitment to a whore and can play the field.>I don't understand your anti Christian tirade.>Repent. Convert. Educate yourself.I'm not anti-Christian, but Christianity is just dead. Nietzsche had it right.>Oh! And you're not right wing. Not right wing at all.I'm not even politically active, so yes. I just think and share thoughts.
>>534476726Forgot image.
>>534476817Regarding population... yes. But it does not matter. It does not matter at all. Because what matters is the relative numbers. Because it is a demographical war.Sure, baby steps first. It still doesn't erradicate the need to run.If you don't have kids you die.If you're advocating for no having kids you're advocating for death / suicide.That is gay. You can do and say whatever you want to make you feel better but this is your anti natalist position here. Especially when we are in the biggest crisis and population sink while being invaded and hugely outnumbered by shitskins. You're either not thinking well or not meaning well.
>>534477008>If you don't have kids you die.How do I break this to you, Ferdinando? Reproducing doesn't make you immortal.>Especially when we are in the biggest crisis and population sink while being invaded and hugely outnumbered by shitskins.We outnumber them in our countries and wars are hugely dependent on force multipliers of military technology. Just look at Israel raping the shit out of the entire Near East.Gonna have lunch quick and be back to you.
>>534477008>If you don't have kids you die.>If you're advocating for no having kids you're advocating for death / suicide.>That is gayI don't have this fear of death that you have. I will literally live for eternity.
>>534476979Whores serve their function, granted. But playing the field, finding a woman you can marry and have children with and going to a bonafide whorehouse... these are not the same things at all. You're too focused on the performative act and fail to see the big picture. Which by the way is what matters.(it was the same with the belief that merely expelling shitskins for now and enjoying our little villages would solve the fundamental problem).Christ is immortal.Christianity is not dear, it just was overthrown as the main religious of "Europeans", as Nietzche pointed out, referring in his time to the European elites only. Also, Nietzsche was unironically a loser and a huge faggot. Glad you assume you're not right wing necessarily.
>>534470878it's great. whites shouldn't have kids
>>534471168He's not wrong.Jews will be in big trouble when all crackers will extinct and they will be surrounded by fast breeding shitskins that refuse to believe in 6 gorillions.
>>534477116It's Fernando. And it kind of does make us immortal, both into the future and into the past. Israel is raping the shit out of the Middle East because the US is three times as populous as the largest Mid East country (Egypt) and because the US is many times more powerful than the most powerful country in the region. The US exists to serve Israel and Israel wouldn't win wars without the USA.Winning back our countries is simply not enough. Why do you think the UN exists? Diplimacy? International Relations? The Financial System? The Dollar as Reserve Currency?Why do you think Colonialism existed?Because we need a structure upon which we can project (and divide) power across the world. Croatia will have the same faith as Yugoslavia otherwise.>>534477143It's not necessarily fear of death. It is what nature demands of us.To reproduce.If you go against it you go against nature.It's that simple.And in 99,99% of the cases it's just failed losers coping.
>>534475753Monks appeared when Roman Empire was about to collapse.Now basement dwelling neets are the modern monks.
>>534477558Everyone around me want me to breed, and then I realized that I'm the one holding the card. Humanity does not deserve my genius, my supremacy, and my bloodlines.You can all die and go to Hell.
>>534477226>But playing the field, finding a woman you can marry and have children with and going to a bonafide whorehouse... these are not the same things at all.>You're too focused on the performative act and fail to see the big picture. Which by the way is what matters.Yes, but it matters for the collective, not so much for the individual. Well, not in the good way, anyway. Married family life is a form of self-sacrifice and service to society. Who thinks about that in a liberal and polarized society? Everyone serves themselves and then only sexual gratification is left out of the whole thing.>Christ is immortal.>Christianity is not dear, it just was overthrown as the main religious of "Europeans", as Nietzche pointed out, referring in his time to the European elites only.>Also, Nietzsche was unironically a loser and a huge faggot.Doesn't change the fact that moderners aren't Christian, often even when they claim to be. It's in effect a dead religion. No vitality left in it and is now just as "woke" as the non-religious whites, quite probably looking for a new vessel to inhabit since the old body had rejected it.
>>534471558>And, you'll be right here with us all as this place gets browner.But his kids won't, which was the entire point.
>>534477648You have autism
>>534477648You're the one dying while failing and being smug about it. I kind of am way too similar to you and in a similar situation. Only I admit my fault and shame. My genious and supremacy ... it appears to have been just an illusion. Every retard mannaged to breed.
>>534477558>And it kind of does make us immortal, both into the future and into the past.It's really just religious thinking on your part. I know because I used to be that way and had the same faulty romantic thoughts. There is no rational argument for the individual to reproduce. The benefits are always collective and it's always better when other people do it while you don't.>Israel is raping the shit out of the Middle East because the US is three times as populous as the largest Mid East country (Egypt) and because the US is many times more powerful than the most powerful country in the region.>The US exists to serve Israel and Israel wouldn't win wars without the USA.Not denying that, but kikes completely BTFO'd mudslimes in many rounds with little US interference because IQ wins modern wars and the aperabs simply lack it.>Croatia will have the same faith as Yugoslavia otherwise.Well that would be a good fate according to Crotchians because that state was foul and the new one is so much better. Can't wait to see the new transformation to an even more irrelevant and sold-out shithole.
>>534477828I have God Almighty. I need nothing else.
>>534477861>Shame tactic. >Fear of death. I'm not the one who will lose anything. You want me to breed? Give me your soul.
>>534477777Checked!>>534477861>My genious and supremacy ... it appears to have been just an illusion. Every retard mannaged to breed.Fernando, it is just the mark of genius to not reproduce. Lower IQs are more fertile. Can you see the folly in arguing with me on this topic now? I'm sure you'll see the truth eventually.
>>534477681You lack spiritual education or something. Go to a Church, find a priest, and try to endure it. If it goes well you'll have your Songohan at Namec moment... It matters one hundred million times more to the individual than to the collective - to the collective you're just a cog in the machine, you and yours matter little. You're just spiritually stunt. Croatia has so many superbly beautiful girl... were never cought by one? Can't you see the difference between forming a family with said girl and just fucking a cheap whore to empty your balls?Come the fuck on!The family preceeds the state and (any) Liberal ideology. It will also carry on after those, although I find it hard for the State to disappear, it would be a tragedy.>>534477777Checked.Based.
>>534470878I want children, but I can't have them. Retards can have them but choose not to, and they flaunt their choice in my face as if they've done something revolutionary and admirable. I hate it how unfair this life is.
>>534475260>So? Who fucking cares?You can pretend peer pressure and shame culture don't exist but you're as effected by the culture around you as anyone else, you merely pretend otherwise.
The anti-natalism comment AI is completely fucked. This is the most nonsensical one of these threads I've ever perused.
>>534478099Everyone gets mad because I don't want to breed. They are afraid that the entire species will go extinct, and they are probably right.
>>534470878G, because you expect my children to support you in old age You're a future tax leech.>>534474265>wouldnt do it again>most guys with kids, have multipleI will have 4 and vote to cut retirement benefits to the rest of you kek
>>534477962Lower IQs are not "more fertile". They just dumber and tend to produce kids more easily in a "ooopsie!" kind of way. Higher IQs have the chance to breed but many decline and postpone it ad aeternum for dfferent reasons.Which I find the dumbest thing ever, which by the way I am also guilty of.So turns our High IQs are the dumbest because not savvy and not that adventurous and easier to manipulate and brainwash so High IQ is an illusion as well. >>534477873You just declared that there is no rationality on continuity and preservation and renovation and survivablity. We would have got to have a gay debate on the meaning of the word "rational". I don't think the Israelis on their own BTFO the Arabs. I don't think the Israelis have been superior to Arabs. I thought that up to 2015 though. Israelis are great parasites and mannaged to gather support from other greater powers that jews also control. The Arab warrior is still generally superior to the jew one, as one can see in Iran and with Hezbollah or even Hamas.
>>534475170Retarded timmoid. Societies with declining populations risk declining into extinction. People raised in an antinatalist society won't know anything but the antinatalist way of life, ensuring that successive generations remain antinatalistic until they disappear completely. Just look at yourself. You're born in the antinatalistic West, so you automatically try to justify your antinatalism even in the midst of the worst demographic crisis your people has seen. No one is asking you to make twelve children and live in misery like the shitskins. The important thing is to propagate a culture of life. Three or four would be adequate, and people in a society with a culture of life will naturally end up with more than that.Wignat antinatalists also ignore the problem of the inverted age pyramid. Who will support the elderly population? Surely you don't want to create a pretext for politicians to call for unlimited immigration?
>>534470878We arent the ones writing article after article about the subject. Better question:Why does it make you so angry when someone wants to have kids?
>>534478040>It matters one hundred million times more to the individual than to the collective - to the collective you're just a cog in the machine, you and yours matter little.You're right, but in the negative direction. As I've said: a major personal sacrifice to grease a few cogwheels of the enormous machine.>You're just spiritually stunt.The only thing we can consider as observable spirit in this world is mind, and I'm sure mine is doing well and even better than most.>Croatia has so many superbly beautiful girl... were never cought by one?I had interest from girls. Mine was lacking. Sexually, sure, I had such interest, but lacked other. Moreover, I can think long-term and see the pointlessness of relationships when I'm broke and living with my parents. Next step was to consider getting out of that situation, but I would need to answer a big question: is it worth it? A lot of my time, nerves and energy just to qualify for a game that seems to frustrate everyone anyway. I know it surely frustrated me even as I wasn't participating in it because I could see many things foul in it all. At 23, as I often say here, I've dispensed with monogamy in total. You like nature, but how would you like if you knew that lifelong monogamy isn't in ours?>Can't you see the difference between forming a family with said girl and just fucking a cheap whore to empty your balls?I can see it. I see through the cost/benefit analysis which I tend to apply everywhere, and I see that whores are actually cheaper.>The family preceeds the state and (any) Liberal ideology.Sure it does. So does barbarism. A lot of things are older than the thoughts I'm sharing and most of us don't like them. It's all subjective though, isn't it? Someone wants Conan to be reality.
>>534478086>>534478086It exists, it just is not sufficient to make one decide to not reproduce over it.BYE ANONS, ENJOYED TALKING TO YOU! ALL THE BEST FOR YOU ALL YOU CUNTS!
It's not my job to chase after pussy. It's yours to seduce me, and you fail spectacularly.
>>534478418>Why does it make you so angry when someone wants to have kids?I don't need more of your little shit on my earth. The world needs a cleasing, a purge, and annihiliation.Billions must die.
>>534478330Brown people all molest their kids at 5x the rate as white people their existence is fundamentally a net negative. Hence gya race communism
>>534478252>GUUUISE I'M VOOOOTINGNatalist intellectuals.>>534478311Completely wrong judgement of the correlation between IQ and fertility. The answer is a lot simpler, but you refuse it.>You just declared that there is no rationality on continuity and preservation and renovation and survivablity.>We would have got to have a gay debate on the meaning of the word "rational".I was very explicit on the perspective of the individual vs collective. I won't explain it again.>I don't think the Israelis on their own BTFO the Arabs. I don't think the Israelis have been superior to Arabs.Well you should read up on some of their conflicts. Aperabs were strictly incompetent.>>534478468Honestly based. I understand that women are the "fair" gender, but why not actively employ that fairness while we're busy being the useful gender? Why does the man have to do everything?
>>534472341>I like having kids >OMG YOURE SO PATHETIC IT MEANS YOURE AFRAID OF DEATH. >No, I'm just saying I like having kids. >OMG YOURE SO SCARED HAHA PATHETIC HOW YOU WANT ME TO HAVE KIDS >Hey man, my kids are great, it's love not fear >OMG YOUD RAPE ME TO FORCE ME TO HAVE KIDS HOLY SHIT WHY DONT YOU RAPE ME AND FORCE ME TO BREED YOUR BABIES. RAPE ME SINCE YOURE SO AFRAID OF DEATH!!you're def a female.
>>534478696That guy just argues with everybody and definitely owns black dildos specifically
>>534478696So, what will you do once all kids don't want to have any children of their own?That's the future if you can't see it.
>>534471021agree. my kids are based. all the thirdies and incels that post on here are fucking pathetic and shouldnt breed. if you fall for the no kids psyop you are weak minded and need filtered out of the gene pool. >hurr durrr police state my 4 year old ready has more guns than 99% of the world>kIdS r sO hArd durrrnot if you are competent. if you find it hard to quit jacking off and playing video games then yeah its probably "hard">ur just jealous of my free time!no dumbass. i spend my free time dirt biking with my sons.
>>534470878>Incels on /pol/ don’t care because they also won’t or don’t want kids themselves>Married anons here don’t give a shit because why would they? They have a family.You should be asking this to terminally online whores & boomers who hide in the basement after work so their wife can’t henpeck them, neither of those sorts are really on /pol/.
>>534478820What do you think if your kids don't want to breed, and basically, your entire bloodlines die with them?
The lack of answer, and (you). Prove to me that you do feel fear.
>>534478618Its not your earth, you're nobody.
>>534478976This is my Earth. I am The Nobody.
>whyBecause they've been brainwashed by jews.
>>534478330>Retarded timmoid. Societies with declining populations risk declining into extinction.First of all: you're brown. Your average national IQ probably borders what we consider clinical retardation. If I say something against your narrative, then you would be wise to take it as a gift of wisdom from the gods because that's what whites are to you animals. You can't even comprehend that trends are temporary and think that a sub-replacement fertility is forever. Applying such ideas to economics would be even more disastrous: we'd all abandon society in the 1930s because the trends were negative.>People raised in an antinatalist society won't know anything but the antinatalist way of life, ensuring that successive generations remain antinatalistic until they disappear completely. Just look at yourself.I would be replaced by natalists, typically those under 100 IQ who blindly adore nature and public narratives. So no, me being an antinatalist doesn't make the world go extinct. It just balances the average IQ so it doesn't climb too high despite the competition.>You're born in the antinatalistic West, so you automatically try to justify your antinatalism even in the midst of the worst demographic crisis your people has seen.There is no crisis. See >>534475980>No one is asking you to make twelve children and live in misery like the shitskins.Even 1 child makes life infinitely harder, because even 1 mortgage destroys westoids.>The important thing is to propagate a culture of life.Not my problem.>ignat antinatalists also ignore the problem of the inverted age pyramid. Who will support the elderly population? Surely you don't want to create a pretext for politicians to call for unlimited immigration?Politicians do what they want. It's a "democracy" but no one is voting for immigrants. What we really have is elites looking after themselves, as they always have. Politics is therefore a waste of time for plebs.
why are jews spamming this thread topic
>>534470878It doesn't make me angry.Other people are quietly vibecoded by education and the media to expect you to have kids so they can have elderly retirement subsidies.That's all it is, really. For them to get old age bennies, you need to have kids who work.And you need to have kids who work because each pension costs over 4 FTE continuous taxpayers and these dipsticks only had 1 or 2 kids when to cover themselves and their wives they'd need 9 kids per family.
>>534479117To remind those who don't have kids that they're failures, which those people are not.Negative reinforcement, is what it's called.
>>534471377Then OP is not talking about you, is he?Why put on the shoe if it doesn't fit?
It's like when people get mad when someone doesn't vote. The individual vote doesn't matter, but for society to function people need to believe that the do.Having kids is the same PLUS everyone who is "child free" is always the biggest pseud you've ever met and is also probably a psychopath who watches monkey torture videos.
>>534479384I like psychopath.
>>534479117>why are jews spamming this thread topichaving kids is a literal commandment from the Most High according the Desert Trilogy, to not have kids is a SIN for which you will be duly and excruciatingly punished with extreme relish
>>534479300>oh so you came into a thread and agreed with the OP>that must mean you disagree >smug reddit basedjak face.jpg
>>534479446Punish with what?
>>534479146This is 1800s mentality, you no longer need multiple workers per retiree. One worker operating a machine sustains 100 people. Of coursw you need to factor in the production of these machines.The reason money isn't enough is due to inflation and taxes. Ever heard "a little inflation is optimal for economy"? That's the biggest scam in modern history. They are stealing from you, and using the money for thousands of billion dollar missiles that they will launch at each other, while the other side needs to spend more in intercepting missiles.Goverents are the problem. They have become Monarchy.
>>534479511Unmaking
>>534470878G) because it means yet another fellow human fell victim to (((their))) propaganda and will not listen to me try to reason them back to reality
>>534479588I will live forever. Lol. You can never kill the Nobody.
>>534479636>will not listen to me try to reason them back to realityYeah at this point they should just be beating you in self defense
>>534479511>Punish with what?plagues and floods mostlybut getting mauled by bears is in the list alsohttps://historycollection.com/going-biblical-fascinating-divine-punishments-recounted-in-the-old-testament/
>>534470878The only people not having kids are leftists. Every conservative demographic is at 1.7, not great but not terrible leftist are at 1.3 literally suicide tier, there will be almost no new leftists if they never have kids.
>it’s really hardIt really isn’t. It’s far, far easier than any job with a modicum of responsibility. It’s “hard” for people on welfare or chronic overthinkers but ultimately it’s like looking after yourself. You either need cleaning, feeding, sleeping, watering or exercise. That’s basically it>but I live in a hellscape shitholeWe all do, ultimately. But it doesn’t mean you should listen to the people who tell you not to reproduce as they’re all jewish
>>534479703Don't threathen me with a good times. Name something that can actually make me feel fear.
>>534478864OH NO I SHOULDNT HAVE KIDS BECAUSE..>my kids might not have kidsholy shit you are retarded
>>534479811So, what do you think about them? Will you seethe and cry like you do now?
>>534479636It's not JUST propaganda though part of >>534479588is.System is structured for lack of agency. Some places of the world will take away your kids if you insist in homeschooling. If you build an extra room in your house and didn't (((comply))) with all the taxes, they will make you tear it down and throw you to jail. In this we diffee from the baby boom period.When people ask "freedom to do what?" That's your answer. Goyim who trade a little freedom for a little safety inch their way towarda Jewish hell.
>>534479781It's hard even with only considering the children themselves, but adding marriage and mortgage into the mix makes it Nightmare Mode.
>>534479675Care to explain? Having kids is great. Its not nearly as expensive as they tell you it is. And its literally your entire purpose in life. Millions of years of evolution have accumulated in your DNA. You are smarter, more physically attractive, more resilient than those that came before you. All done with a singular purpose, to reach puberty and procreate. Its literally the only reason you exist. Failure to do so is to end a genetic lineage that extends all the way back to the dawn of life itself. It is a fail at your singular purpose in life. All that progress. All that pain endured by your ancestors. All the close calls that your forefathers made it through with the indomitable human spirit. All for what? So you can afford to buy a new shiny box that does math every few years while you pleasure yourself to the colorful images it shits out for you?
>>534479865>System is structured for lack of agency.That's called captivity. Animals don't naturally reproduce in captivity. The fact that the captors are sending agents of the state to force animals to reproduce in captivity is enough justification for the entire dismantling of said state and its assets.
>>534477558I don't care whether you like my choices. It is literally that simple. Don't want kids, don't want the complications that come with them, have left relationships over the issue. Some people are content with a different life than the one you see as "right", and imposing your belief system on those people and insisting that it's the only way they can TRULY be happy makes you the asshole. It's very simple math.
>>534470878It doesn’t. You just shouldn’t have the same privileges
>>534480025Wall text just to say that you are afraid Death.
>>534480025You don't want to terminate yourself, though it's what ought to happen to you. You are a Beast of the system that eats souls.
>>534479987yeah that might be hard if you are retarded but if you aren’t then it isn’t even a conscious effort
>>534479009No, its my kid's earth. You're just a hedonistic parasite.
>>534480025>Its not nearly as expensive as they tell you it is.How much is a mortgage alone? A 3rd of your lifetime earnings? Very cheap! Not to forget that people only even work full-time to afford that shit. Meanwhile we antinatalists chill.
>>534480169It's my earth. God created it just for me. Your kids are irrelevant.
I dont get angry when someone says they will never have kids. I get angry when they vote against my children's interest despite having no skin in the game.People without children should be banned from voting and holding public office.
>>534480138>it isn’t even a conscious effortWagies self-reporting as unconscious NPCs.
>>534480027They do think that they solution is to manufacture behavior, like herding animals "lets tax people without kids" That's the border collie's bark.
>>534471114They want more people, period. We’re all the same to them. This thread is almost 200 replies long and no one has made a case for an increased population.
>>534480230this.childless people aren't a big deal but childless people who want to control the future without having a stake in it at all really drive me crazy
>>534480025>And its literally your entire purpose in life.I choose my own purpose.>Millions of years of evolution have accumulated in your DNA.Oh wowzies I'm so super special!>You are smarter, more physically attractive, more resilient than those that came before you.Dumbed down look at evolution. It's not even true for anyone. We all have ancestors that mogged us to death and beyond.>All done with a singular purpose, to reach puberty and procreate. Its literally the only reason you exist.The only reason (You) exist.>All for what?Same question I'd ask you natalists. Because DNA?
>>534480376Neither of us are in control. Stop being a democratically deluded bugman.
>>534480227Nah, you're a narcissistic schizo. No one cares about you, nobody listens to you, not even the glowies do. To God, you are a dissapointment. Hell, you don't even have a job.
>>534480376>childless people who want to control the future without having a stake in it at all really drive me crazyI want what is best for anons who have kids. I want a safe White future for them so it is in their interest to be protected by these brown natalist fucks who want to force people to have babies while being enslaved and abused. It is a self defense situation at this point.
>>534472007I think that chart is pretty optimistic, the fertility crisis is worse than they assumed so the peak will be a few billion less
>>534480469>Hell, you don't even have a job.Just like all the philosophers and nobles. Working is for the "filler" humans. I don't mean this ontologically and I understand it's mostly just being given the right cards, but if you work full time, then you're not even alive.
>>534480315>no one has made a case for an increased population.Because it will validate their narcissistic delusions
>>534480469God always listen to Me. That's why the world developed in the way that suit my taste, and not yours.This world is exactly what I want.
