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People who think the Bible stories are history are both dumb as fuck and don't actually believe in Jesus or God or the Bible.

Jesus carrying the cross for example. Only a complete retard thinks this is history. There's a message in that story, which goes over the heads of the retarded literalists. Basically people treat you like shit, and as long as you view it through the lens of the flesh you'll view it as pointless suffering, but salvation comes from seeing it through another lens, where that suffering is a blessing in disguise.
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Revelation 2:9
Revelation 3:9
Romans 2:28-29
Philippians 3:3
1 John 2:22-23
2 John 1:9-11

You don't even need to engage with pilpul. Just post these Bible verses in their entirety or in part. You don't even need to elaborate.
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>>534471645
Idgi
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>>534471645
XNITY PRIMER
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https://archive.org/details/TheSecretTeachingsOfAllAgesManlyHall/page/n42
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>>534471760
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litany_of_humility#Contemporary_Version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLVA07_ISUk&t=36s
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bump
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>>534471645
What I think is absurd is that no Christian believes in the old testament especially Genesis and that those are all just fairytales but Jesus & friends doing all kinds of magic tricks is absolutely believable and literally happened.
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The crucifixion, resurrection, and Revelations can’t be a metaphor or just an inspirational story. Christ’s message was that the Rapture was IMMINENT. If the Rapture is not ~*~L I T E R A L L Y~*~ imminent, then it makes Jesus look like a liar. You also need the Trinity to be true in reality, since God is Love, and love typically exists as a family relation. God couldn’t be love unless he had an eternal family member to share his love with.
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>>534473647
Yeah it's retarded. There is a belief that events, persons or statements in the Old Testament are seen as "types" prefiguring or superseded by "antitypes"; events or aspects of Christ or his revelation described in the New Testament. But they misunderstand what that means. It doesn't mean that the New Testament stories are history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typology_(theology)
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>>534471704
>uhh google AI pls give me bibble verses that prove the bibble is history and not fiction
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>>534471704
You're not even a real christcuck, you have never set foot in a church, incel LARPer.
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>>534471704
The swastika is a pagan symbol, memeflaggot
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>>534473647
And Jesus' sacrifice is predicated on original sin and the magic apple.
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slave morality slop
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>>534474044
Original sin must be the single most retarded concept in all of theology across all religions.
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>>534471645
Even if it was true and a kike named jesus was tortured nobody should care about it.
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>>534474044
Wasn't the sin gone with Noah? God wanted to remove all humans with the flood but Noah was such a good boy that God allowed him and his family to survive and that not all humans are bad creating new good humans from his bloodline.
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>>534471645
Go look up the meaning of AD you raging retard
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>ngmi

>Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
>Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven
>For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
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>>534474338
Probably. Jews don't believe in original sin. Christians made it along with Jesus being God so they would have an excuse for worshiping Jesus instead of God directly. The synoptic gospels and the original epistles don't even mention Jesus being God, so it's obvious Christians made that up later.
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>>534474360
Cultists took over Rome. What's your point?
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>>534471772
Yahweh is not the father of Jesus.
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>>534471645
>Jesus carrying the cross for example. Only a complete retard thinks this is history. There's a message in that story,
just because there is a message in it doesn't mean it wasn't a real event. you see that right?

yet more illogical 'thinking' from the swedish logic pseud.
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>>534474281
Original sin is the greatest psyop for mass kontrol.
You tell a group of intellectually fearful children that they are under a terrible and invisible danger, and that to fix this horrific situation, they are incredibly lucky that God himself illuminated this group of philanthropists to mediate and save the situation—them and their religious discourse...and of course, this protection doesn't come for free..., the philanthropy isn't edible, i appeal to your understanding...
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>posting directly is the only way anyone here will ever read it, if then

>35Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?" 36He answered, "And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?" 37Jesus said to him, "You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you." 38He said, "Lord, I believe," and he worshiped him.
And the angel said to me, "Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb." And he said to me, "These are the true words of God." 10Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

>Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 3He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.
>5For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son, today I have begotten you"? Or again, "I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son"? 6And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God 's angels worship him." 7Of the angels he says, "He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire." 8But of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
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>>534474318
Yeah, that's another thing, there may or may not be parts of the story of Jesus that is history, but that history has zero bearing on your life today, it's only a story that's told to convey a deeper much more important message, which does have bearing on your life today. An actual human being on a cross 2k years ago is as irrelevant to anyone's life today as a beetle being crushed under someone's foot 2k years ago.
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>>534475006
>it's only a story that's told to convey a deeper much more important message
nice opinion you've got there.
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>>534471645
Why is a nutjob Christian on 4chan of all places?
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>>534472017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7THG28GprSM
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>>534471645
No proof he existed no proof that he is white. Not even Roman records of his supposed arrest for doing gay stuff with a kid in a park. Neither Christians or Luciferians can prove he existed and by extension cannot prove his race. If either of them keep harping on about it for political control I'm at the point where I just want to slap them in the teeth or slam their head into the wall. Religious people, gay people, whatever just shut the fuck up
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>>534474533
Yahweh is a gay donkey with a tranny wife that tortures living things. It is not a god. It is just another faggot that hasn't been beaten enough
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>>534475262
and now this nigger is posting islamic garbage. confirmed anglo hating retarded brown living in sweden.

no wonder he always refers to children language books.
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As a proud tradcath christbro i affirm my true feminine soul every single day by keeping my worthless little clitty locked tight in that cold steel cage while Tyrone wrecks my boypussy with his massive veiny black cock first then switches to brutal double fisting me so deep his forearms disappear up my ruined shithole and my prolapsed rosebud hangs out like a pink sock covered in thick lube and ass mucus. My prostate gets battered raw until endless sticky ropes of sissy precum pour out non-stop gluing the sensitive top of my penis head completely to the inside of the metal cage bars so the skin stretches and tears every time it tries to twitch. The dried precum and skin fuse together into one painful mess making the cage bite deeper into my shriveled balls and the raw head of my clitty until any movement feels like someone is slicing the frenulum with a razor. I cannot pull the cage free without ripping chunks of my own penis skin off in bloody strips so instead i swallow fistfuls of estrogen pills to soften everything up make my tits swell bigger and my balls shrink even tinier while i beg tyrone to ram both fists in harder twisting them around inside my guts until my belly bulges outward and my gaping asshole farts out wet sloppy bubbles of cum lube and prostate milk that splatter across the bed. The burning agony from the glued skin on the top of my penis mixed with the mind melting pleasure of getting my insides rearranged turns me into a drooling brainrotted mess moaning Bible verses about submission because this is the real tradcath christpilled way. True tradition means weak christbros like me fully surrender our male bodies to csuperior alpha bulls and let them remake us into leaking cumdump holes for God's natural order. Every extra dose of estrogen makes the glue between my clitty head and the cage tighter and more painful so the metal grinds against the raw exposed skin while Tyrone laughs and stretches my hole wider than ever.
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>>534471645
Where does literalism and allegory begin and end with this retarded kike book?
killed a man named Onan for pulling out of his brothers widow, killed all the first born of Egypt because pharaoh wouldn’t let his people go
killed annanias and sapphira for lying to Peter about money they got by selling their house
killed all of job’s children because of a bet
killed 42 boys by sending she bears to rip them apart for calling a prophet bald
flooded the entire world for his own mistakes (god's don't make mistakes)
demand genocide and rape against people who were mean to his "god's chosen"
rose every single fucking person from the dead (nobody saw it besides 1 kike peasant)
Are those all allegories?
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>>534476221
This disgusting cycle of cage torture prostate milking endless hormones and total cuck surrender is how a real tradcath proves his devotion by becoming a broken sissy fucktoy that drips and gapes for real men who enforce the hierarchy with pure violence. Pure freedom through complete emasculation and brainrotted devotion to the bvll.

TFW you're doing another based and tradpilled groyper CRVSADE for the Nigerian based black man CHRISTBROS in Africa so you can kiss their feet and YHWH's miraculous and infallible brown foreskin appears to you in a burning bush and before you even know it Mother SLVT Mary appears with her glowing holy gyatt and she lowkey takes dat bibisi but you're a trad christbro so YHWH's transdaughter Yeshua Bar Yosef lowkey BUILDS THE WEST and squirts his miraculous AB type neovagina axewound transperiodblood all over you in a trad Eucharistic miraculous shitskin miracle so you give up all your possessions and lowkey turn the other cheek to the based black CHRISTBROS and when you arrive back home you just kill evil whitey pagans who are no civilization savages for 8000 years and rejoice when your newborn is diagnosed with nager-miller syndrome because you know YHWH's plan is so fucking trad and mysterious holy yeschad!
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>>534471645
Anon Romans used to let the body rot to the cross and not let remove it after half day, who wrote this shit was not even known the Romans Modus operandi
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>>534477433
Correct, they were left for vultures and other wildlife to feast on, not given a burial and therefore served as a deterrent message.
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>>534471645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4rlGog0XRc
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>>534477433
>>534477845
exceptions could and were made. in this case you have a seemingly sympathetic governor in Pilate and the intervention of a wealthy man in Joseph of Aramethea. There is also in the story evidence that there was a desire to show mercy to the other criminals crucified along with Christ in the breaking of their legs to hasten death, which is also not usual.
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>>534471645
your norse edda repulsive filth get out you parasite
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>>534478430
>Let me just make shit up
No. Crucifixion was reserved for the lowest of the low in society, bandits, rebels, slaves, and for non-citizens who committed crimes against the state. Going against protocol would completely defeat the purpose of this punishment: deterrence.
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jesus christ was cool
i respect him as a korean mahayana buddhist
but in fact, he was brown not white
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>>534478816
there are examples of exceptions being made under some circumstances and so exceptions could be made. you just haven't done the slightest looking into it.
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>>534479119
There is actually more evidence He was White than Brown. The White position has eyewitness accounts and DNA. But I'm not dogmatic about it.
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>>534479138
You do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about. Judea obviously was a territory where chimp-outs happened on a regular, a politically unstable region. Pilatus was not in the position to grant your fantasies of mercy or exceptions, in the event of yet another uprising, he personally and his entire gens would be held accountable. It would have been absolutely catastrophic for him and his family.
Roman political thinking revolved heavily on what we today call FAFO. Exceptions under this view would have encouraged even more turmoil in this already unstable shithole.
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>>534479246
>The White position has eyewitness accounts and DNA
Nope
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>>534479509
>It would have been absolutely catastrophic for him and his family.
you're just making that up though. this wasn't a crucifixion during war or of a political dissident or any kind of crime that threatened Roman rule. According to Pilate, Jesus was innocent but to appease the jews he did allow him to be crucified......according to the jewish purity laws that meant no dead bodies around the next day.

hence the breaking of the other 2 criminals legs and the granting to Joseph of Arimethea to take a bury Christs body.

Pilate did have trouble with the Emperor later on but not over this case specifically. apparently he had been condemning too many people in the region without proper trial.

for some reason you are not aware of exceptions made where the condemned were allowed to be taken down and buried by their family, nor are you willing to see that this case was not about punishing a criminal or rebel against roman law or rule.
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>>534479738
Stay mad, kike
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>>534479246
>But I'm not dogmatic about it.
>>534479894
Seems you are
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Jihad anon has really rattled the midwits on this board.
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>>534480200
Everyone hates you, and when your life is over you'll burn in hell forever.
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>>534479768
>you're just making that up though.
Tiresome. Look up what happened to Varus' son after the Clades Variana, anyone accused of poisoning Germanicus, the families of participants in the Psionian conspiracy. At best, their sons political careers were ruined forever, at worst they were exiled or even executed. Again you show historical illiteracy that makes me question why I even bother to answer.
I do not take your book of jewish fairytales as a serious historical source since it is riddled with fantasies, blatant historical inaccuracies and straight up lies. Just like your posts.
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>>534479246
>>534479738
kill yourselves retards
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>>534480371
so romans never broke the legs of the crucified? there were never any exceptions made allowing the crucified bodies to be taken and buried?

if you answer no to both of those you simply prove yourself an unreasonable and ignorant poster on the subject
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>>534480399
you should do that, brown 'swedish' logic pseud.
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>>534471645
Surprisingly not everyone is Christian.
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>>534480897
But what about the price of tea in China?
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>>534471645
Biblical literalism is idolatry
it is making an idol of the Bible
most fundies cant see that
St Francis knew it
He would not allow his followers to own a Bible
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>>534480399
Make me
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>>534481012
>Biblical literalism is idolatry
>it is making an idol of the Bible
lol no. it's regarding the Bible as Jesus and the Apostles did.
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>>534480808
Crurifragium was practiced to hasten their deaths, but here you are projecting your "christian values" onto a pre-christian society where those had absolutely no place. It was not out of mercy, but pragmatism. If crucified on roads near towns, inhabitants would be bothered by screams of agony and pain. Not a single Roman source mentions it as merciful practice, only judeo-christian fantasy books.
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>>534481274
they died quicker either way.
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>>534481545
Yet you claim Pilatus was being merciful on jesus, but then somehow forgot to hasten his death via crurifragium. Stop hallucinating, making stuff up or retroactively projecting shit onto pre-christian societies. It's embarrassing to witness.
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>>534481719
>but then somehow forgot to hasten his death via crurifragium
have you read the Bible before? if so, how are you forgetting that Christ was already dead?
>exceptions could be made to take the body down and bury it, particularly when wealthy people were wanting to do so
>legs were sometimes broken to hasten death
none of this is fantasy. you just seem irrational.
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>>534471772
goy cattle kindgarten, christianity is a tool to mock europeans after forcing it upon us.
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>>534471645
If it says it like it then it says it like it but you want to make shit up like a boomer and that's just totally disgusting. Moses parted the Red Sea to get Israel out of Egypt and everyone else acted accordingly. There is no le prank symbolism verse but you're here saying it definitely. Disgusting, simple as.
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The bible plagiarized the Qur'an, Enuma Elish, Atrahasis, Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, Nag Hammadi, Compendium of the Emerald Tablets, Epic of Adapa, The Egyptian Book of the Dead, and more, to suit the narrative of the early christian writers. The bible has been edited and changed over millennia. The Enuma Elish and The Epic of Atrahasis, scribed on clay tablets 4000 years before the bible, has had 0 edits or changes. The Epic of Adapa, older than all of them, has had 0 edits or changes.
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>>534478430
The same sympathetic Pilate that stole the money from the temple for build an aqueduct, and beat the shit out every jew against him?
From what we know from historical sources Pilate was a huge piece of shit with the Jews, not a wash hand and sympathetic



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