The bureaucratic state hates the knight, and fears him. Hates him because he humiliates it. Fears him because he represents proper virtue. The knight swears personal oaths; the state requires impersonal compliance. The knight defends the weak by his own judgment; the state legislates who is worthy of defense. The knight is sovereign in his person -- answerable upward to God and downward to the men under his hand. The state requires subjects.Also, Jews were NEVER knights. It was forbidden. They were kept entirely outside this martial tradition, so they despise it.Honoré Bouvet, in his Tree of Battles (1387), already complained that the knights of his day were not what they had once been -- that the old knights ate beans and bacon, slept on hard ground, wore armor most of the time, and drank clear water so they could endure all pain and labor.Now in 2026, the lament has hardened into something colder. The knight is no longer portrayed as faded. He is portrayed as a fool, a brute, or a child in armor. The serious knight -- the man who keeps an oath at cost -- does not appear. He is not permitted to. Remember that just as Jews fear the samurai, they fear the knight.This is political because knights were a product of an aristocratic culture that would find modern democracy utterly repugnant, and modern grift culture would seem to them a tool made by Satan himself. And they'd be right about everything.
>english longbow enters the thread
>>534508512Sir.
>>534508512Id like to add to this but I dont have much to say.I've been thinking of seeing the movie Excalibur (1981), have you seen it? What is your favorite knightly literature.
>>534508803I rewatched it a few days ago. Great film, conveys the magic better than any other.
>>534508512Knights were pretty much like wiggers trying to aura farm the OG niggers.
>>534508803Read this: Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Edited by J. R. R. Tolkien and E. V. Gordon, revised by Norman Davis.It’s notable that in 2021 a film was made, "The Green Knight," that cast a fucking Jeet as Gawain. This was no accident, it was an intentional move to defame and mock the greatest European warrior tradition.
The knight resonates with people in a way that appeals to a more fundamental part of our nature, the warrior. There were warriors before we even had city states that eventually gave us knights. The warriors job is to protect the tribe, from threats both inside and out.The knight also embodies what people believe to be a good warrior. They have a code of ethics, they care about honour and most above all, we often see them take personal risk to protect the weak.The Jew or other evil subversive types can't relate to this. They want to prey on the weak. Things like a moral code is something that just gets in their way.
>>534508512>HATES and FEARS the Knight
>>534509175Yes I saw that movie too. Was too artsy for its own good on top of the casting choices, and recently I googled a little about it and the director openly said he showed Arthur as a frail old man to undermine notions of masculinity or other such nonsense. The story did leave an impression on me, though.
The knights who say.. NI!
>>534509961The story is very old, one of the oldest, and there's a lot to it that wasn't in the movie. You'll like it.
>>534510020GGER
>>534508512I was reading Malory last night. Truly the knightly ideal.remember Lawrence always carried a copy of Malory with him on all his campaigns.
>>534512548Imagine if men today did that. Things in the world would be much better if men behaved as knights, in a knightly way. It's like the polar opposite of the Jew/grifter type. More people need to know this.
>>534508512>modern grift culture would seem to them a tool made by Satanliberal ps would just call the Knight uneducated and from a stupid time. you already know how a hollywood movie would go if a Medieval Knight would be transported to our time
>>534512739>>534508512I could have made this thread myself. How to contact you anon
>>534509961>too artsyAll A24 films are like that. Their horror like The VVitch/The Lighthouse/Hereditary is very good sometimes at least. Midsommar is okay too, I'm not about to defend pagan faggotry but it's clear that the depiction of paganism in the film is somewhat loaded and more reminiscent of literal satan worship than anything.
>>534515351I also loved The Northman, it's genuinely my favorite movie that's come out in a very long time. I didn't like how the fight with skellington man was imaginary though. I hate the "it's ambiguous if the magical elements are actually real or not" with this movie specifically honestly, it should've just been one or the other not personal interpretation. It's much more fun if you go into it imagining that the magic is real.
>>534514700I posted a thread about this sort of thing earlier today and the responses from all the deracinated, morally leprotic mutt swarthoids on this board was retarded. Guys with genuine moral conviction like you two are becoming more and more difficult to find. Just gloss over this shit real quick. https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/534491465
God bless Saint Louis
>>534508512There is no time or place in all of human history where any of you faggots would have been a knight or the local knight equivalent.The Chads who played on your high school football team and fucked your crush whose dad owned a car dealership or successful plumbing business are the types of people would have been knights. In all likelihood, you dysgenic retards would have died in infancy or childhood. If you somehow survived to adulthood, you wouldn't have been a knight or warrior or even a normie merchant or peasant serf with a wife and kids. You all would have been the weird hermit living alone innashack innawoods who smelled like piss and creeped out all of the townsfolk when you occasionally came into the village for supplies.
>>534516157The amount of neurotic projection in this post is genuinely sad. This really came from the heart with how oddly detailed it is. You need some serious introspection and contemplation time with God.
>>534508803the song of roland >
>>534509100
>>534516157>The Chads who played on your high school football team and fucked your crush whose dad owned a car dealership or successful plumbing business are the types of people would have been knights.im literally that guy verbatim and Ive been posting here since 2008
>>534508512Based.
>>534516274There's no projection, I'm just sick of you incel retards shitting up my entire internet with your delusional retardation.
>>534517155/pol/ hasn't existed since 2008 newfag it used to be /new/
Why does chivalry make polespitters have melties so much? Knighthood would be one of the most esteemed things to bring back and the fact that chivalrous ideas and platonic social idealism is so besmirched underlies a disgusting and dare I say materialistic moral failing. The idea of receiving a maidens favor, not from lust but from gratitude in her personal sanctity and the recognition of honor and valor buy a king would be proof that this bastard abomination of interactions called a society even exists at all.
>>534515694words are cheap. Unfortunately only action can inspire change. We don't want to become the next Don Quixote. A modern knight has to fight against monsters in a new way, but with the same morality. Each picks his own, but honor and honesty doesn't really make the news, albeit you can always see men longing for it
>>534517660don’t worry, it’ll come back. As nation-states collapse due to mass immigration the world will fragment into chaos and those who can provide safety will regain power at the expense of the merchant class (jews).
>>534516157>The Chads who played on your high school football team and fucked your crush whose dad owned a car dealership or successful plumbing business are the types of people would have been knights.If you were of: > Free birth > legitimate parentage (bastards were rare exceptions) > Not a serf (the Order would not buy your freedom from seigneurial obligations)And if you swear:> Poverty> Chastity> Obedience within the Order> Your property and wealth to the Order> The special Templar vow: To defend the Holy Land and Christians against the Saracens. ...Then you could join the Knights Templar as a sergeant. (Frère sergent.) You didn't even need to be a noble or from a knightly family.Do you think that today's "Chads" are capable of swearing such vows, or keeping them? Knights were never thugs, this is a deliberate modern misconception.
>>534517377>no projection>meanwhile wrote an entire fetishitic cuckold mudcore erotic fanficI want you to understand that everyone else sees right through this and can literally feel that this emanates from deeply seated racial and ancestral insecurity in yourself. No normal person sees aristocratic/chivalric or general medieval depictions and thinks of these sorts of vile things. Your insistence that everyone else would totally have been a malignant peasant (who had a healthy family of guaranteed virgin wife + children + half the year off in Church holidays) or some freak of nature hermit absolutely is the projection of yourself onto us. If you want me to be conceited about it, then I am literally an immediate member of the Lyons family. I'm not going to apologize for using my own people's firsthand accounts of what they and their societies/cultures/values were over the French Revolution era propaganda written by jews and freemasons that was created specifically to dehumanize our Christian ancestors. Something as magnificent as Notre Dame for example was not built by people with a collective IQ of 40 who had no idea what bathing was.
>>534516157>You all would have been the weird hermit living alone innashack innawoods who smelled like piss and creeped out all of the townsfolk when you occasionally came into the village for supplies.I am absolutely fine with this, in fact I'd be proud of it.
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Why is it always low tier men obsessed with this trash ?
>>534518294oh oh oh memefag said something
>>534518294Why do memeflaggots always post vague retarded timewasting rhetorical questions?
>>534517660Most people are unable to even contemplate the just and right way of manhood. Of comrades in arms tied by bonds of honor even stronger than family bonds, where each would die for the others. You don't even need knighthood specifically, the three musketeers are it, or the homeric warriors.The uniqueness of knighthood is the Christian and courtly morality blend. One is platonic good, the other is martial honor and allegiance. What unites them is grace, the grace of God and Authority which is invested by it, and through it invests a knight with both authority and a moral calling to pursue absolute good.Disgusting monarchs and miserly butcher warriors existed in all the ages, yet the belief in the values of knighthood reportedly became so beloved it became a current of thought and admiration, culture itself. Even women became entranced by the unyelding nature of the knight. If you think of it, the ideal knight is like a Chad with substance, and above petty desires, with duty and honor on his mind. (Women love to seduce immovable men.) It created a self-reinforcing culture of great and strong men who had objective metrics to compare themselves by and judge each other on: chivalry. And then Skill, piety, honor, strength, good judgement and so forth. Being an errant knight without obvious ties allowed to prioritize knighthood itself above allegiance to a lord's petty disputes.A display of grace and chivalry ensured no man or lord could deny a knight the same in turn, and that created civilization, or at least an ideal of it to aspire to. The reality was obviously less than perfect, but the ideal was definitely real.
>>534518294Show flag. Gonna be Israel, I guarantee it.
>>534508512I can kinda see what you were going for but you seem to be using the idealized fantasy version of the knight as your ideal. Real knights were not too different from the modern soldiers of today other than having more prestige and conpensation for their service and being an even more hereditary role than modern military families.But knights, samurai, soldeirs etc are all the same cucks to authority with a different coat of paint. Personally i think pirates are a better group to idealize. Beholden only to themselves, operating for their own self interest yet they still cooperate with locals in pirate havens. Robbing from merchants and other state actors. Pirate ships believe it or not were also much more democratically run since the captain wasn't backed by the authority of the state and thus couldnt punish crew memebers wirhout the accomplice and respect of the other crew memebers.
>>534518115knights were professional drip thugs but warrior classes have a duty to respect their own and know the diaspora, unlike professional political thugs who have nothing to do with the order of the world.if you think modern businesses and the social matrix compare to old world caste, the pagan caste system casted fate appropriately. the jewish slave one doesn't care and promotes pacts with demons for rank. the problem with this thread is that berserk is accurate about nobility can be eclipsed by dark forces. yes you should be noble, but god can make being noble or worse chivalrous, disarmed before devoured.
>>534518115>The Chadswell yeah, imagine picking the crop of Chads, and putting them in a society where they are judged by how many women they reject, not how many they lay. By how many hard vows they take instead of how many pints they can down.All you needed to become a knight was a lord to recognize your qualities of might and loyalty, and swear allegiance. Naturally peasants didn't become knights, in the same way people don't become career soldiers today. But if only noble-born sons could be knights, there wouldn't be enough to form armies. Get recruited as a soldier, prove your mettle, educate yourself, and become an adopted son to the lord or one of his vassals. That was an uncommon, but not rare occurrence. Especially after bloody battles with many deaths. If you were a remarkable soldier you'd be knighted.
>>534518875>people brown nose authority and throw others under the bus to get ahead and receive special favors>except on lawless pirate ships where people had no one to turn to for help when it happened to themFor all the talk of le pirate's code very, very few pirates had any form of honor whatsoever in actual practice. The few who did became infamous for that reason specifically; it was entirely abnormal. For every pirate captain who would treat captives and their (entire) crew like human beings, there were several dozen who were monstrously violent savages intoxicated by their own bloodlust and covetousness, raping women and decapitating surrendered men and boys. Hierarchical authority has its own problems but it is always going to be much more stable than borderline anarchy/tyranny of the majority. The former is the ordered, rational/stoic masculine (Apollonian) that builds and maintains civilizations, the latter is the neurotic, emotional/hedonistic feminine (Dionysian) that cannot create nor maintain but only stagnate and degenerate.
>>534518990> berserk is accurate about nobility can be eclipsed by dark forces>courtly manners immediately identified a knight. Most peasants couldn't achieve that. Even if you were knighted in a war, you would not be allowed anywhere near court unless you demonstrated nobility through superior, flawless manners. This is what knightly literature focuses so much on. Your manners, every gesture communicated what kind of person you were. You had to gift, you had to concede, you had to render grace to your superiors. It was usually quite obvious the difference between a great lord and a petty tyrant, which is why squabbles and skirmishes were common. The early knights were mostly soldiers. By the real historical time of the Song of Roland the idea of knightood was just military shock troops with a horse. But the events there gave raise to this idea of a selfless, morally superior soldier, akin a hero. It's the same inspiration that shitty marvel heroes portray in a diluted, cartoonish manner. That culture slowly spread alongside nobility and Christian morality, as a bridge between the soldier and the saint and the loyal retainer.
>ITT retards think knights and samurai were gigachadsthey were just landed gentry, and you're jerking off to the fanfic thousands of years and miles aparti cannot begin to describe how stupid you all are when in reality, faggots like kushner would be your knights lmaoooooo
>>534517609Lmao gottem
>>534519028There really werent that many knights. But knights had the authority to press peasants into service via conscription. >>534519296Criminals, gangs and pirates of yore all have a twisted sense of honor largely based around the fact that they are all self interested savages but the only way they can maintain cohesion is if they resist the urge to screw each other over unless its necessary. They might not care about how they treat outsiders but getting a bad rap among your own pretty much guarantees someone will take you out for being a shit disturber. The violence and lawlessness has a way of regulating itself.
>>534519440Jews literally can't be knights, anon. It never happened. Also they did have a rigid code of ethics, which is why most famous knights were extremely honorable men famous for good conduct, such as William Marshal.
>>534519440Jews have never been able to fight. They're allergic to anything remotely related to the martial world. A scrawny manlet Aryan could probably shatter every bone in the average jew's body with a single kick. Even back in Carthage the majority of their army was comprised of mercenaries who were poached Graeco-Romans. While today we now see something like the IDF in existence, we can also see how cowardly and dishonorable they are in combat and that the way they primarily work through subversion rather than direct action has never changed. The only jews I've personally ever met who were not this archetype of dishonorable coward were Ashkenazics who had so much European ancestry in them that they genuinely almost passed as actually belonging to the Nordic peoples aside from one or two small characteristics that betrayed them.
>>534519440you have no clue about what you're talking about. Chivalry was a culture trying to fix the warlordish decivilized behavior of post-rome Europe, often spread by Christian writers from monasteries. This is why Charlemagne became a symbol of a new civilization. The "fanfiction" is exactly the culture that idealized knighthood, always starting from popular stories, war accounts of heroic action and bardish songs. That culture absolutely began permeating in the courts so that young nobles read of Roland and his heroism like kids today read of Thor and Batman.But instead of just reading about it, they then strived to become knights like those. Soon the courts expected that behavior and organizing jousts to display the strength and chivalry of one's knights became more important than actual warfare among nobles. They turned being a chivalrous knight into a sport (while real war still happened). That's man-first, loyalty and honor-based civilization, just like Japanese Bushido. It wasn't perfect by all means, but it allowed for superior morality to be worth a damn in society because people actually believed in it, and tried to abide by it in some fashion.All those Japanese samurai who committed seppuku out of principle should tell you that it was real.
>>534518875>>534519735I'll admit that there is a masculine imperative to set off in a skiff at midnight with a shaded lamp hung from the mast -- the objective being a small secret cove; and once you avoided the excise men you could sit in a cozy little cave on an upturned barrel with a smokey pipe and drink grog with ye shipmates and eye up the just landed contraband -- the rum barrels and spices; and perhaps there would be a comely wench from The Old Spyglass, the local tavern, into the bargain. A man needs his flintlock pistols and ruffed sleeves.Ah, that would have been a good time. But still, it is knightly virtue that is most sorely missing from our world. And the knight is, for some reason, hated by the powers that be (which says something about our world) -- whereas the pirate is a pretty popular figure.
>>534519735> There really werent that many knightsOk, we gotta be clear. All heavy cavalry in the middle ages were "knights". That's thousands of people per typical king's army, but the population was also an order of magnitude smaller than today. Chivalric culture idealized the figure of the knight, but it extended to lords, squires and in general whoever had a courtly rank. The "knight errant" was an ideal, an invention, but chivalry was a Europe-wide cultural movement promoted by Christian Kings, who had to also demonstrate those qualities themselves.
>>534519867> While today we now see something like the IDF in existence, we can also see how cowardly and dishonorable they are in combat and that the way they primarily work through subversion rather than direct action has never changed.The IDF is like an army of villains -- the total inverse of the knightly ideal. They think nothing of killing a few women and children for every "terrorist" they assassinate, and they fight mostly by bombardment and surprise bomb/missile attack. It's disgusting.
>>534520003> the pirate is a pretty popular figure.Thief, rapist, murderer, but free. The freedom is the appeal. The knight errant was also free, free to give his allegiance to a lord of respect and repute. The appeal is in freedom to exert one's force and to reap the rewards, socially and physically, for doing so. There can't be a civilization of pirates, but there can be a civilization of knights.
>>534508512KNIGGER
>>534518294>>534516157>>534519440
>>534520147the main enemy of Chivalry is Heidegger's enframing. It's considering human beings as "human resources" instead of creations made in the image of God to be judged by their character. Rationality and objectivism mask what really is human nature, because "being alive" can never be explained rationally. All evil and all issues can be solved by dying, so why live? It's an irrational choice, an aesthetic choice. It's through the aesthetics of religion and chivalry that groups of humans can elevate themselves to new heights. It was ironically a period of wealth and relative peace in Europe that ended chivalric culture. Of practicality and personal benefit coming at much less of a cost, a period of higher rationality that lead to today
>>534508512Nigger we require a feudal system for knights to exist. This isn't a thing anymore and the modern equivalent would be a corporate hitman at this point.
>>534518294high tier men get shitfaced drunk and kill themselves all the time. Or are you gonna tell me Trump, Kash Patel and anyone in the US congress are "high tier men"? Where are these men? Wealthy scoundrels are high tier now? Zuckerberg, Musk?You're living in a delusion. High tier men are knights, if not by profession, by spirit and character
>>534508512Thoughts on Don Quixote? It was written in 1605. Knights were still around then, werent they?
Anyway a throwaway account if anyone wants to at least be casually connected to someone who appreciates chivalric virtues. Beats just posting in temporary threads, in my opinion. Throw me a lineLalala.angelic@proton.me
>>534520468personal armies, anon. The good old compounds with military training americans love, and feds love to wreckAnd yet it's necessary
>>534520657No they weren't. The culture had waned and was considered old school and foolish. Don Quixote shows that a man with outdated morality is just a fool in the new world. But this fool is still an object of inspiration. A knight is still a knight. Don Quixote was not fighting against windmills, but the ugly nature of humanity
>>534520841Cool. I appreciate my wood statue of him (which i found in the trash) even more now. Thank you anon :)
Im sorry for calling ylu guys kniggers I didnt really mean it
>>534520713I'll say hi at some point in the near future brother
>>534520713I'll email you at some point later this week or next week.
>>534518294>>534520552https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_among_doctors
>>534508512https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIeh0YarFsThis scene gives me shivers
>>534520713lol what a pathetic cringe faggot.also knights fucking suck. total larp. total fraud just like samurai. go pledge your allegiance to some corrupt king and beat on unarmored peasants while you simp for a whore. dumb fuck niggers. and catholics are blasphemous retards.
Was deeply moved by Death of King Arthur back in senior year, what are the essential Gawain related readings?Usually would not ask a genuine question on /pol/ but this thread seems sincere
>>534524028I don't know about readings, but this here movie is one of the kinoest kinos to ever kino: >>534523675 Have you ever seen it?
>>534517059Kek
>>534518115>>534508512People love to point at the places where they fell short of their ideals, but having ideals to strive for, even if you sometimes fall short, is better than having no ideals at all. Modern society has no real ideals, so there can be no comparable figure to the knight. >>534518294Show flag.Where I'm from low tier men are into UFC, trucks, and porn.>>534509748The Warrior is a more amoral archetype, a killer pointed in a general direction at best. Even pajeets have such an ideal in their society, and look where that gets them.
>534523779The combativeness displayed in posts like these should only ever embolden your conviction that you are absolutely correct. If what you say, the moral and spiritual ideals you profess, result in these vitriolic, belligerent, destructive, wordly cretins suddenly coming out of the woodworks to attack you like this, you can know in absolute certainty that you're on the right path. This sort of combativeness is directly tied to a person's moral-spiritual leprosy and lack of belief in anything but the self. God forbid someone actually believe in SOMETHING! God forbid a man believes that there is more to life than ourselves and being enslaved by our passions and vices. No, they seek to drag you down to their same level of rot and misery. They see virtues such as self-sacrifice for love of fellow man as not only irrational, but actually stupid, because they are lost in their worldly pursuit and have totally dispossessed themselves of their relationship with God and their own eternity. There are three things the world hates more than anything else: beauty (whether moral or idealistic or physical or otherwise) innocence, and holiness, with the latter growing out of the former two, and the enemy will always seek to brutalize and destroy these and crush them out of you wherever and however it can.God bless you brothers. I hope you all fully understand that whenever you are on the right path, whenever you pursue holiness and righteousness and embody moral virtue, you are really, really going to see the demons come out of people to attempt to break you down. Never let them take your heart from you and never let them shake your conviction. God is with you to the end.
>>534523675>>534524133archive.org/details/excalibur-1981_202409
>>534508512what the knight was on "paper" was very very different than what they actually were. police offers and soldiers take oaths to protect and serve the state and public as well and /pol/ hates both of those groups worse than trans niggers
>>534508512chivalry is a nice ideal, tough to hate on itdid it actually exist? who knows, what actually did exist, history is unreliable as shitit's nice enough to strive for as one feels, and can, so who cares
>>534524427>archive.org/details/excalibur-1981_202409You uploaded this, didn't u? lol
>>534508512>virtue>the majority of knightsyou know the reason they had to come up with the chilvary balads was to invent role models so the knights in the field would stop being wiggers (with mixed results) right?
>>534524373Amen, beautifully said.
>>534508512rich cunts in fancy armor, no less depraved than the current batch of rich cunts in suitsseveral of the crusades were started for no other reason than to get the raping murdering retards out of town for a while
>>534524373the guy who posted that shit was 1000% spilling resentment flavor vitriol but he has a strong point still. Samurais, knights and etc are basically power fantasies for dysgenic frustrated males with grandiosity complex. If you saw through his words I also see through yours that theres a megalomaniac hiding behind pretty words of beauty, morality and "holiness". its all pose
>>534525008pretty much this. too much pent up energy by ye olden days frat bros
>>534525008>several of the crusades were started for no other reason than to get the raping murdering retards out of town for a whileAccording to jewish and female historians who have tons of incentive to tear down all that is sacred in our civilization.>rich cunts in fancy armor, no less depraved than the current batch of rich cunts in suitsSelection criteria for the top of society (knights were more top-adjacent than the actual top though) varies between societies. The demented sociopaths you get from liberal capitalism are not the same people you would've seen rise to the top under an agrarian feudal society. Not that all of their selection pressures were amazing, but it definitely would have been different in character from the modern ruling class.>flagFeel stupid now typing all this to a pajeet, but what can you do.
>>534520968the way you acquired it was quite a bit poetic dont you think? lol
>>534520841Cervantes was just a jew subverting our heroes and culture
>>534525179>Feel stupid now typing all this to a pajeet, but what can you do.he might just be a white working class churl. its frankly stupid to just jump to the conclusion that the guy is a jeet o algo just because he said something superficial or dum to you
Not shitposting - what do we think of Gilles de Rais? In a cautionary tale sense. As in how does a man go from being an extremely well respected knight (not only knight but marshal) and companion to Jean d'Arc to opening the door to the demonic and practicing profoundly torturous pedosadist child sacrifice for promises of material wealth (that never materialized)? Are men always like this deep down and it simply remains dormant until something breaks them/they decide to stop hiding it, or can a man really fall from a genuine, significant level of moral virtue and pious grace to literally torturing hundreds of children to death in the worst ways that any human has ever endured, to the point of genuinely rivaling the crucifixion of Jesus and causing a bishop to turn a painting of Christ to the wall so it would symbolically stop having to bear witness to the incomprehensibly monstrous crimes Gilles was confessing to?
>>534525104>>534516157Honestly there is more obvious latent resentment towards "chads" and "frat bros" among the knight-haters, given that you guys are the ones who bring them up all the time. People of all classes and levels of genetic fitness have admired chivalric ideals for the past 1000 years. Less common today, but still a mainstay of Western culture.
>>534525179nah see they bow to their cuntswe shot ours lolwho winsa well fed well trained noble wearing a masterwork of steel and leather or baza the catcher with his cheap bow and and some bodkinslanded gentryold moneyexactly the same, most of the modern ones are fucking descended from the old ones xD
>>534525338>>534525382see? nigga why does everything that you dont like be the work of a jew or a jeet?
>>534525470Because it literally is every single time.
>>534525453there's a bit of distance between admiring chivalric ideals and pretending historical knights had anything to do with them
>>534508512"Knight" is simply a title of nobility during the western caste system known as serfdom. THe privileges and duties of a "knight" varied from kingdom to kingdom.You just watched too many youtube videos and now spout retardation. Go outside every now and then.
>>534525470>why does everything that you dont like be the work of a jew or a jeet?They won't leave us alone. I wish they would stop doing things I don't like, they just keep on doing it.Also the quality of response I got from that Britflag poster is low IQ enough to be Indian.
>>534525396throwing money at some mystic was probably the easiest thing he ever did in his life
>>534525453>given that you guys are the ones who bring them up all the time.bro you just putting me in some random boxes of bullshit. of all the chilvary myth critics of this thread Im the mildest one because I assume the framework that the chilvary stories shaped up knights with role models instead of them being representations of the average knight. Im just utterly skeptical and cynical with everything involved armed people with power no matter how much moral "fiber" you assume they have. >People of all classes and levels of genetic fitness have admired chivalric ideals for the past 1000 years.And oh I do have my soft spots for these ideals. Im just too jaded as to know that these ideals arent even 40% accurate to reality on-the-field as it was
>>534525396I think if nothing else Gilles serves as yet another excellent example of why once saved always saved theology is Calvin's bullshit heretical headcanon and was never anything but.
>>534525803you cant be serious that you think G-dog would ever be held accountable in a hypothetical divine judgment when even someone with half a working brain can see that he became utterly insane. Also, the average calvinist would tell you that he was never saved to begin with because born saved people wouldnt do this shit
>>534525754>Im just utterly skeptical and cynical with everything involved armed people with powerThere's levels of awfulness that people can exhibit when given power and means to wield it. Reading about being on the losing side of a war in classical antiquity vs. medieval and early modern Europe, it's easy to say that humanity made some strides in morality under these ideals. Huge discrepancies in power typically lead to bad outcomes, but morality can reduce that issue a lot. Look how Europeans treat animals vs. browns do. It's probably not great being at the mercy of a human as an animal, but much better that human with a white than a jeet.>bro>G-dogAlso why do you type like you are black?
>muh meleefags,vweeaboo tier but with medieval larpSoooo gay, meanwhile this is what been used prior medieval times
>>534526233>There's levels of awfulness that people can exhibit when given power and means to wield it. Reading about being on the losing side of a war in classical antiquity vs. medieval and early modern Europe, it's easy to say that humanity made some strides in morality under these ideals. Huge discrepancies in power typically lead to bad outcomes, but morality can reduce that issue a lot. Look how Europeans treat animals vs. browns do. It's probably not great being at the mercy of a human as an animal, but much better that human with a white than a jeet.you made a solid point thereToo much instagram these past few times has utterly niggafied my vocabulary. Trying to detox but things like "bro" and "letter-dog" still sound like comedic nuggets to me. But Ill be better
>>534508512My ancestors slaughtered French knights at a|Agincourt.>They had surrendered by thenA win is a win
>>534526617Agincourt*
>>534516157>he doesn't dual homeless people with knives for bannanas.Most of them have dogshit reflexes so you can get free bananas.
>>534508512>>534509748>>534512739NEVER capitalize the word "jew"
>>534525987That's why OSAS is so retarded.>Once out of prison always out of prison, unless you did something to get yourself put back in prison, in which case you were never out of prison. Calvin had to create a second heresy of God tricking people into believing they were saved to come up with the mental gymnastics for how a person who once acted saved and was completely assured of their own salvation could become apostate. Protestant theology is the most braindead anti-intellectual garbage in the universe and you can very easily tell that low quality individuals just made up whatever retarded headcanons they thought sounded good without even following them through to their logical conclusions rather than discussing questions through autistically exhaustive ecumenical councils. Protestantism compared to orthodox Christianity is like kindergarteners arguing with MIT graduates.
>>534520657Don Quixote was a man who lived in an era that wasn't his own. Everything was changing very quickly, and knights had long since fallen out of fashion. He wasn't crazy; he had simply been left behind. It's the nostalgia we all feel for times past (even those we never lived through), but taken to the extreme of being unable to live without them.
>knight templar>went on crusades for jewrusalem>died for jewish wars>get tortured and killed as heretics when they got home anywayoutplayed by kikes again
>>534528581The Templars literally killed more jews than muslims on their way to Jerusalem and then massacred its jewish population when they got there because (as always) they allied with the muslims against Christians. There are multiple accounts of knights forcing jews into synagogues and then barring the doors and setting them on fire. The crusades were also initially in direct response to several hundred years of muslim conquest of Europe. Take your memeflag off, faggot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Terrail%2C_seigneur_de_BayardAnother top knight, French of course.To make it simple, a Man needs three things to live right: God, King, Honour.They have removed GodThey have killed the KingThey have ridiculed honour.
>>534516157The spirits tell me your life is very sad and that you hate yourself. They also tell me you hate "incels" to protect yourself from the truth of your own life that you are a spiritual eunuch, devoid of the fires and passions that drive other people to live. You are the walking dead.
>>534516157TRVKE…
>>534515351>pagan faggotrysorry to break your bubble bud but I can't think of anything gayer than worshipping a whipped, raped jew who died 2000 years ago
>>534509175As someone who studies 13-15th century literacy, I actually recommend Simon Armitage's translation. It's not as preciwly accurate as Tolkien's, but maintains the Christian virtues, and keeps the rhythm of the middle english. (The original middle english is also right there on the opposite page so you can literally compare the translation yourself.)
>>534529745Yes we trvly must RETVRN to drowning little White children in wells, hanging random people from trees, and cutting the hearts out of slave women alive foar le glory of Donar (or else he won't make it rain anymore and we'll all le DIE). The future belongs to le BASED NOCTULIAN WIKING DRENGR VEAHVULF WAMPHYRES and it must be purchased with thee blööd ov White child opfers.It bears emphasizing that religion is divinely revealed Truth. You cannot separate the god from the religion, and the grim reality is that not a single larpagan actually believes in their idols. Every one of you is an atheist who parasitizes the classical mythoi as a political fashion statement, and this is the fundamental difference between you and Christians: we actually believe in something.
>>534508512Based and true. Government's hatred of masculinity and men targets anyone who stands up for themselves. That's why the government is filled with Freemason Jewish pedophiles punishing men of virtue, while Freemasons, jews, Jesuits, and Jeffery Epstein associates traffick and rape kids with no punishment.The only solution is mass LEGAL criminal trials. Mass treason charges and public sentencing. Charge their families too for benefiting from and enabling human trafficking and pedophilia. Every person should be tried as an adult for their participation.There is no debate on the subject. America is a country of rule of law, or its a country ran by satanic Jewish child molesters/human traffickers. The law can be preoprly enforced, or Jewish terrorists can continue occupying america.
>>534508512Slay Jews where they stand, anon, to drive evil from this Earth.
>>534508512>The bureaucratic state hates the knight,You don't understand Feudalism
>>534508512Kikes satanists and their useful idiot child molester terrorists fear men of virtue and action, because they know only a few men would wipe out any organization they created as well as their friends and families, and the public would gladly cheer the people cutting kids open for fun on video are now in a mushy pile at the bottom of a quarry. These like satanist pedophiles are a tiny tiny tiny fraction of america, let alone humanity.Properly sentencing these people, publicly, with actual courts of law is not violence, oppression, or maliciousness. It is punishing JEWISH child molesters who take advantage of the most vulnerable. Child molesting kikes and satanists aren't victims. The only fair moral treatment is them dangling at the end of a rope publicly after treason conviction.
>>534531373>feudalism badFeudalists didn't harvest grain so their king could rape kids do death and drink the blood, FAGGOT!The French revolution was the biggest mistake of European society, pushed and organized by pedophile jews. Jews have always kidnapped, raped, and consumed christian children. Its a game to them.
Anyone who doesn't think the perpatrators *and their families* including sisters, brothers, wife's, daughters, and sons should be summarily executed, has not seen the evils of these people.Kidnapping children, raping them, torturing them, then consuming their blood and flesh to get high. Anyone who hasn't seen this should watch a few videos next to a woodchipper. After the first 10 seconds they will start shoving these people in, feet first, to great applause from the public.
>>534508512knights were retarded lanklets who impoverished europe. we should try to bring the samurai and the shogunate to europe instead
>>534525396he was probably raped.
>>534531469You don't theatrically torture a rabid animal when you put it down, you kill it swiftly. There is a certain level of evil which cannot be reasoned with and when you brutalize these individuals you are only doing so for your own enjoyment, not because it makes a difference for them. The grim reality is that they are so malevolent they enjoy the attention; they enjoy knowing that their evil acts have caused so much pain to people that they wish to torture them for it. It only validates them. If anyone were to be killed then it must be done expediently and surgically. No longwinded speeches, no patronizing, no spectacle. Wordlessly put them in front of the firing squad and then toss their corpse in a shallow, unmarked ditch somewhere. There is nothing that we can do to an individual that God cannot. Vengeance is for God to take not us. When you allow yourself to enjoy this sort of violence you stoop to the same level of diabolism as them, of enjoying the infliction of suffering for the sake of it. Don't mistake this as me saying they don't deserve to die, only that becoming intoxicated with retributive bloodlust is costly to the soul and ultimately achieves nothing. Expediting an evil person's appointment with God is all you need and it is a greater pain and terror than anything one could physically inflict on them.
>>534525551correct. a knight is simply a rank of landed nobility.
>>534531947Of course. Its really a waste of time when justice is about the swiftest execution and body disposal possible. Dont bother with theatrics, ceremony, or a nice tombstone. Write their names and their families names on a large list. Throw their ashes into a giant mass grave, and have a small secluded computer showing their crimes on video.Youre wrong they hate the theatrics. They love it. Then when someone gets mean reddit comments the Freemason child rapist police cry on TV about how they are victims.No, when their wives, uncles, aunts, mothers, fathers, and children are dangling on live TV they will solve our problem for us, or run into a wall of gunfire.Not my fucking problem hang the wives and children of human traffickers on live TV. There is no deterent for this level of criminality.You do not human traffick or your entire family will be killed publicly. There is no lesser sentence that is fair. Deter these people, and if they refuse eliminate their defective pedophile religion and bloodline.
>>534525551You kikes love showing off your low IQ!
>>534531538You don't understand Feudalism.
I'm just a doofus who's gonna put his feelings in this comment. Don't mind me.I think that I've come to believe that acting manly, knightly or some strong and solid alternative isn't exactly going to make the world a better place. We often bring up that our society was "high trust" and while there is value in being strong enough to deter aggression, being strong doesn't deter deception or social pression. No, I think that what out society is lacking is not a contrast to knightly behavior but it's source: grace.Trust is good will. Grace is giving the benefit of the doubt to other persons. We're not just divided between one another because of politics, and you'll notice useful idiots of one side or the other is always to instantly resort to accusations, but we're also imperfect and selfish and we've got each our own shit to deal with.So even as I am not super good at expressing myself or even all that nice to begin with, I try to give grace to other people when they are also impolite or difficult to understand. With the hope that people might give me the same. Not because I deserve it or because I am all that important, but because I hope that someone smarter or kinder than me, when I'm bad, can help redirect me onto the right path.In Christianity, grace is pushed to the extreme: for while we were still enemies of God he still gracefully sent his son to die for our sins to redeem each of us. I'm not gonna preach, so lemme just say that: even when I suck, try to give me some grace. Because when you suck as well I'll try my best to give you some grace.And I think that society will flourish and go on the right path if we can start doing that together. I understand life is more complicated than a stupid comment on anti-reddit though so, yeah.Just take care of yourselves, knights of the world wide network! o7
>>534508512A knight needs a horse. A horse needs a rider.
Knights are just the public servant class of the middle ages. The people who today have large salaries and don't do any real work. The people who support mass migration. Those are the knights of today.
>>534516157>You all would have been the weird hermit living alone innashack innawoods who smelled like piss and creeped out all of the townsfolk when you occasionally came into the village for suppliesWhat is a knight, without his wizardly companion?
>>534530329didn't read any of that but I can tell that you're just listing out kikeganda for no real reason. oh wait, the reason is is that you're a kike slave, my bad.
>>534508803Watch Green Knight, it's pretty good, kind of a slow burn movie about a physical and spiritual journey of a knight
>>534508512i'm a son of the light, born of the day, not the night, i fear no night or darkness, since i walk in the light.the kingdom of darkness and its nights fear the sons of light
I was asleep and wake up to a lot of American posting. Sad to see! Well, let me respond.> "Knights were just landed gentry / nobility / Kushners"Land made a man eligible for knighthood; vows, front rank, and willingness to die in it made him one. They had an ethic which revered martial spirit and action. Geoffroi de Charny, a knight who wrote about knighthood in the 13th century, had a phrase he loved to repeat: "He who does more [on the battlefield] is worth more."Kushner and men like him have the inheritance -- but they're no warriors. They're merchants to the core. There were merchants and money lenders back then, too.> "Knight = soldier = cop = cuck to authority"The feudal oath was a personal bond between two named men, mutual and terminable when either broke faith first; the modern enlistment is signed with a state that owes nothing it cannot revoke. A king or lord to knights, if he was a good ruler, looked after his knights as though they were his sons or his beloved brothers. The modern state is at best ambivalent towards its warriors. And in any case, the knight chose his lord and could leave him -- the salaryman soldier cannot.> "Chivalric texts were corrective fiction. Real knights were wiggers the ballads were trying to civilize"You need to understand that men need higher things. They have to aspire to something noble. The chivalric texts were prescriptive precisely because the men needed prescription. The moment a civilization stops aspiring to virtue, to martial glory, to the renewal of the land, etc., is the moment its men collapse to the level of gangsters -- the present is what no-rule looks like. Turn on the TV and you'll see 10,000 depictions of a gangster for every single depiction of a knight.
I'll add something:There is a king in the old stories called the Fisher King. He has been wounded -- in the thigh, in the groin, in the loin, depending on the telling -- and the wound will not heal. While he suffers, his country suffers with him. It is under a frosty enchantment. The crops fail. The rivers freeze or dry. The women bear no children. The land is called the Waste Land because the king's wound has spread outward into the soil itself, and nothing in it will grow. The king cannot die and cannot recover. He fishes from a boat on a lake outside his crumbling castle because fishing is the only thing he can still do.Our knight rides through the Waste Land, sees the king, sees the desolation, is brought into the castle, and witnesses a procession -- a bleeding lance, a silver platter, a glowing cup. He is seated at the king's table. He is the guest of a wounded sovereign in a dying country, and he has been raised on the courtly counsel that a knight does not pry into the affairs of his host. So he says nothing. He eats. He sleeps. He rides out the next morning, and the castle vanishes behind him, and he later learns from a hermit that the king could have been healed, and the land restored, by a single question: > Whom does the Grail serve? He failed to ask it. The wound continues. The land remains waste. In some tellings, Percival spends the rest of his life trying to find the castle again.The knight's task in a wasted country is not to despair at it -- despair is what your US and UK regimes want -- but to ask, out loud and at cost, the question. The land is healed by a man who refuses to be polite about its dying. That is the only thing in the legend that ever heals it.This is, I think, the ultimate metaphor of our time.
>>534508512Knights were the original feminists.
>>534508512who were knights?If you remove the judeo-christian timeline, the question gets murky and fuzzy. Solving the knight problem, the logistics, the cultural genealogy, the technology will help us restore a proper White chronology.
>>534540855No Judeo-anything.It's true that Christianity is required, but the Church of 1226 was not the Church of 2026. We should look back at older, harder traditions.
>>534508512I despise the medieveal, roman, greek, warrior like larp the right puts on. How does any of that apply to modern day?
>>534544305Why do you despise it, exactly?
>>534544218laughable. The judeo-christian church wasn't a thing with knights. This is all one massive retcon. Basically, the Arthurian legends are already retcons of a late Celto-Germanic empire. This is before they came up with "ancient Rome & Greece" which are also retcons, just much stupider and more hamfisted.We don't know exactly how the church cemented its takeover ca.1200-1300. But the late knight culture is part of that.
>>534508512Well the problem with honor cultures ruled by warriors, is that they use violence directly. The whole game of the jew is to convince you that violence is never the best answer even though it's obviously the best answer sometimes.The whole psyop of jew civilization is that the jew oligarch is allowed to use violence against everyone but everyone is supposed to be non violent because the violent jew says so.
>>534536421Indian movie
>>534508512right on
>>534508512>aims a musket in your general directionWhat do you do now?
>>534549253I don't know why people have this impression that knights never used guns themselves, they did during the weird in between period before firearms became powerful enough to reliably defeat armor and plate hadn't become obsolete yet. We've seen a pattern of heavy infantry shedding a lot of their armor for various reasons and then at a later point in history adding that armor back, and that trend has continued even today. We've dropped our giant IBA-type armor systems for much lighter and smaller ones, sacrificing the extended protection for "good enough" protection of vitals to gain more mobility. At some point in the future we'll go back to heavy armor when the situation warrants it again, even if that is not until the creation of power armor. In which case we literally would have modern knights in a way.
>>534547980What's worse is that they tell you that everything has to be handled "legally" "by the courts" -- which have been 100% captured by the worst enemies of society, and the judges and lawyers are society's worst men. Without honor.The "legal system" is now so remote from natural justice that any man who has ever been exposed to it, to any extent whatsoever, should feel revulsion.It's especially bad in the USA and UK, but it's also bad in the EU.
The problem now is that the zionists don't play by the rules of non-violence that they impose on others, and it's become obvious to everyone. The zionist says the bad white nazi did genocide and we can never forgive them. But the jew does genocide.... therefore... logically... the jew can never be forgiven. They dug their own hole with this line of thinking. They trained us to hate genociders and then they did genocide and now they are shocked that the world despises Israel. Are jews the dumbest idiots to ever exist? This is a comically retarded error to make.
>>534508512Got my Malory right here
>>534508512You've never even been in a fist fight lol
>>534508512>>534508803Knights were just corrupt politicians, fuck off.
>>534518294Daydreaming. Surely if Chud was born 1000 years ago he would be a Chad knight and not just Chud but in medieval clothes. Surely he would've been born into a warrior elite family and not the son of the same braindead whore who birthed him today. Surely his dad would've been present, teaching him to brandish a sword and fight like an Aryan warlord, not like his current dad who didn't even teach him how to kick a football. Surely his small weak frame would've survived childhood.
>>534508512Good thread. To the front of catalog
>>534517660Your idea of knighthood comes from the 1800s, it's literally just fantasy. IRL knights were just rich bros born in rich families and they would spend their lifes doing nothing in their castles and mansions, occasionally wearing their expensive armor and riding their expensive horse into a battle, trample some malnourished plebs and leave before they could catch diarrhea in the camps. There is no substantial difference between real-life knights and modern CEOs/celebrities. Same type of despicable chads born in chad families and fully raised in the shadow of nepotism while they laugh at the plebeians (this includes you).
>>534518875democratic piracy that ends when money flow endsremind me of something... modern dayand dont forget about privateers
>>534516157You are a jew that fears knights
>>534525453Yeah just like modern middle class goyim idolize celebrities, the middle class retards of the "past" idolized knights. And by past I mean from the 1800s, because before the french revolution you can bet that no plebeian was idolizing the rich chads who would pillage their land every year and take the best crop, and rape their wives, and conscript their children into meaningless wars. You will see soon, after all, judeo-feudalism will be estabilished in full force in 2030, and you will finally get to meet your beloved knights: israeli frat bros in expensive techwear, riding private jets like war horses, abusing you like a pathetic toy, taking your stuff and your women, sending you to die in some desert shithole because he wants to build a data center on it so his AI assistant on his phone goes 3 milliseconds faster. This is your "knighthood".
>>534508512>Remember that just as Jews fear the samurai, they fear the knight.That's untrue. Jew fear knight 1488 times more then samurai.
>>534508512Modern Society HATES and FEARS the Enkidu archetype
>>534516157They hated him for telling the truth
>>534508512Have you read the book "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"? Mark Twain is pretty much unhinged he's spewing hatred against Knights and 600 year England so much. I had always thought it a comedy but it's actually a genocide fantasy of writer Twain. You might be onto something as to why a famous American writer was so angry about a time period a thousand years before his.
>>534518875First of all, knights have nothing to do with modern soldiers. In terms of military and war, knights have no modern equivalent. The modern equivalent of the knight is the CEO, the high-class banker, the celebrity, in other words the shabbos goy who is tolerated by the jewish ruling class and given the power to rule over sectors of the broader goyim substrate.Second of all, your idea of "pirates" is as inaccurate as OP's idea of knights. IRL, pirates were almost always under a nation's authority, acting as thugs to bully the seas out of the nation's direct control. And most importantly, the overwhelming majority of pirates in history were north africans and arabs causing havoc in the Mediterranean to weaken Rome first and Christendom later through rape and murder.
>>534512548Based Malory was the least chivalric and honourable man in existence
>>534553074Not at all. In fact the Enkidu archetype rules you today: who is more Enkidu than israelis? Savage, merciless, neanderthalish. Proudly ignorant of laws and "human rights", they've bullied and murdered their way into every western government, they threaten their allies with nukes, they break down your civilization with bestial degeneracy.
>>534508512Knights were some of the biggest lackeys of absolutists during the medieval era.Unconditional loyalty was often a prerequisite to receive such a title to being with.
>>534518540Good post.
>>534519440Even if it was a fanfic what fanfics and role models do we have now you drooling imbecile.You deserve to be executed.
>>534553074An incel is someone that doesn't bring anything to the table, all these people rambling on about unconcious and primitive brain philosophy are mentally ill.
Old School Runescape Anyone?
>>534508512I am a big fan of girl knights who are definitely human.
>>534553757Idk sounds poetic. Kinda like blood meridian but for boomer boomers.
>>534516157You are mixing up stories. What is the fantasy? who is the knight? Is the knight a man who seeks truth and abandons civilization to seek a personal connection to the divine?Is the knight a rich man who buys armor and a horse?Is a knight a fanatical zionist slave of the current power structure? Is a knight a loyal dog who follows orders? Who is the knight? Who do the incels look up to? Is it escapism that tells them they should be rich and powerful? Is it bloodthirst that the soft modern world has trained them not to employ? Is it curiosity that drives them to be contrarian? Is it slavish loyalty that makes them religious chaste and meek?Is it frustration and weakness that makes them unpopular? Popular? You sir, do not know what it is that draws people to the knight, you fantasize that it is weakness. Why? Because no matter the morality or the flavor of the knight they are strong? Or are you simply mad that men stand outside your shadow?
>>534508678That’s a Slovenian flag not a Russian one you dumb cunt
>>534508512Bureaucrates hate Merit, they hate virtuous men with a passion because it reminds them that they've sold their Integrity. They are morally, spiritually, aesthetically bankrupt, and everyone with an intact set of values sees this simple truth.>>534557924i, for one, contemplate lilisen's smell
>>534553757all men are flawed. that's why being a knight is an ideal.Read that shit again last night in middle English.I'm ready to sally forth and assay mine puissance
