Total humiliation lmao
>>534527826thats what Gobachev had to do in Afghanistan to end the war.
this is fairly old news
Trumps had enough winning
>>534527826War Result: Iran gets richer and stronger, and oil is much more expensive.
>>534528142Im pro iran in this conflict, but did they really get richer? They lost a lot of infra.
Who cares what Iran says. If Trump feels victorious, he wins…and that’s just how it is.He should just set the date for the victory parade and get this thing wrapped up.
>>534528190They’re going to tax all shipping to pay for damages.
>>534527826Total homosexual posting.Nothing happened brown monkey.
>How Iran might reactthey should just keep lobbing missiles at Israel until the current Israeli REGIME is rotated out for a pro-Iran government
>>534527826Meanwhile gas is $6 a gallon
>>534528190long term, definitely.infra can get rebuilt, the important thing is getting more money flowing into the country.
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>>534527826Iran can't claim any form of victory, except having exacted so much terror on the global economy that this forced the USA to cut their attack "short"USA can claim that they> obliterated Iranian Navy> annihilated Iranian air-force> murdered top-level Iranian diplomates and leaders> destroyed some strategic Iranian assetsMost people are gullible and would swallow this up..
>>534528190If they're able to apply a 2 million dollar fee to tankers crossing the Strait of Hormuz. At about 40-50 per day (pre-war traffic) that's 80-100 million per day, or 29-36 billion USD per year, basically enough to cover their entire military budget with a bit left over. Yes, that's pretty good for them.(2 million USD is a pretty small fee given the value of an entire oil tanker's cargo, so it won't dissuade people from using the strait.)
>>534528486Losing 2bn in infra for 2mn per ship doesnt seem worth it to me but idk. How many ships need to pass per day to make it worth it?
>>534528460>>534528486Israel will not allow that to happen. They will destroy Kharg Island themselves before allowing Iran to rebuild. The idea you can assassinate your way into getting a more agreeable person to deal with is foolish, as Trump himself is finding out. The consensus among the entire Israeli parliament has been very clear since OCT7, Iran must be destroyed.
>>534528706See >>534528703, they'd make that in under a month.
>>534528575They still control the straitThey still bombed the saudis, jews and others in the regionThey downed golem planesNobody wanted to help retard-in-chief with his jewish warThey will continue to enrich urariumThey will feed all drone combat data straight into chinese databasesThe judeo-anglo empire is over, the new world order is here
TOTALZIONISTDEFEATSOOOOOON
>>534528190>They lost a lot of infra.All their important shit is safe and untouched under the mountains. Everything else can be rebuilt rather easily once the toll booth dollars start rolling in.
This is the best case scenario, unless you really want a complete economic meltdown and make life extremely difficult
>>534527826I remember Peter Zaihan predicting thos very scenario. I remember him writing that Iran would suffer but would ultimately be able to hold out.
>>534528897Best case scenario is that Trump gets jailed for starting an illegal war on behalf of a foreign nation, and then the Strait becomes open again.
>>534528984THIS a thousand times over.
>>534528402When 9/11 2 electric boogaloo happens and it will happen it will be all trumps fault.
>>534528897The problem is that Trump has an inability to admit he lost, even if internally within his own circle.He wants a deal better than the Obama nuclear deal but the reality is Iran can outlast the orange retard because they see right past all his showy lies.
>>534528981When Trump was pitched this war by Netenyahu at the White House, Trump's top general who was in attendance warned him of exactly this.Rubio felt this way too, but he's both a coward protecting his career, and a Sec of State in name only, the real Sec was Jared, who was also present.
>US spy agencies told to analyze "what would happen if we just say we won and pretended we won? would Iran be okay with that?"
>>534528981>Zeihan getting something right for onceEvery day we descend further into clownworld.
>>534529070Trump has a long history of selling a complete line of bullshit to his base and getting them to swallow it. It would not be the first time he's lost and just went on to deny reality.He'll fire Hesgeth and a few generals and move on.
>>534527826https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaSUOFleNRU
>>534529070turns out trump was afraid to do what needed to be done to actually win.
>>534527826mission accomplished
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That would be really pathetic. He should do it.
>>534529282He and the GOP could not survive going full Blood for the Blood God for Israel.
>>534528733Israel is not fucking stupid enough to get into a fight with Iran on its own. They do have a tendency to fire back. And Trump has had more than enough of being involved with the Persian Nightmares for the foreseeable, thanks.
>>534529454>And Trump has had more than enough of being involved with the Persian Nightmares for the foreseeable, thanks.6 months ago you would have sworn on Jesus' name and your Mother's life that Trump wouldn't commit to a full war in the Middle East.
I wonder if this shitstorm will finally end the hard-ons the American gov has on destroying Iran. They've been wanting to go to war with Iran for decades, making so many excuses like muh nukes and muh proxies. It's just funny how they finally got a proper chance, and this is all they've got to show for it.
>>534529454>Israel is not fucking stupid enough to get into a fight with Iran on its own.Ever since Gaza, anyone betting on jews being intelligent is setting themselves up for disappointment. Do they want to fight Iran on their own? No. Will that ever be their intended plan? No. But they could absolutely miscalculate themselves into just such a war. Or worse.
>>534529716Which is another reason Iran doesn't want to relent. The worse they make this for us, the longer it will be before anyone can talk about attacking them again without destroying their political career.
>>534527826He's declared victory like 20 times already
>>534528142And the US wasted hundreds of billions of dollars and decades worth of ammo.All that so it could kill a few replaceable old guys and a couple hundred of children.
>>534530040Don't forget the 60th strongest navy and the 50th strongest air force in the world!
>>534529282I'm actually surprised he hasn't ordered an honest-to-god ground invasion (yet). You'd think he's impulsive enough to go all the way, especially with the present condition but apparently not.
>>534528733Israel delenda est!
>>534530179>Don't forget the 60th strongest navy and the 50th strongest air force in the world!Don't big your self up too much, Iran never had much of these to start with, may countries don't even have an air force or navy so 60th and 50th mean Nothing.Irans navy was a few converted tankers and speedboats and they still have lots of those.
>>534528703>2 million USD is a pretty small fee given the value of an entire oil tanker's cargoIt's $1 per barrel.
>>534528142Good God, the things I read on this website make me realize either it's just a bunch of kids on here or people that have ZERO understanding of the situation in Iran. I hate Trump too make but god damn these people are so delusional. If Trump wanted to, the US could invade Iran and kill every living thing in the entire country. We could hit every single on of their decentralized power plants and let them all die of heat, starvation and thirst. There are many, many, many ways the US could utterly annihilate Iran and the pieces that are left of its government. However, because he doesn't want to fuck republicans over for the foreseeable future, we don't. Trump is choosing not to end their entire existence. I love how all of these retarded faggots online, who have zero knowledge or military or political goings on in either country, are like "hurrr drumpff got butt blasted by Iran hahaha they're kicking ass". I know the people saying these things surely aren't retarded enough to believe it themselves but, what exactly is your purpose? You're just pissing into the wind, saying nonsense
>>534531418>, the US could invade Iran and kill every living thing in the entire countryHow old are you kid?Shouldn't you be commenting this sort of stuff on you tube videos?
>>534531418strait status: CLOSEDoil status: DOUBLEtotal tanker countIran - 11 U.S. - 4Sorry bud, Iran won.
>>534531579The US has the military capability to kill every individual person in the country, if they wanted to. Are you familiar with nuclear weapons? I know they arrest you for sharp spoons over there so maybe you aren't. You've never been in a war, you've never even been in the military so pipe down while the adults are talking mmmkay
>>534528981>Peter Zaihanyou retards keep shilling a faggot that gets his opinions from analysts that write shit in mainstream media, stuff that you could google yourself.the fact that iran would use the strait for leverage has been known for years.
>>534531697>The US has the military capabilityBut not the knowhow.The American military is pretty incompetent, considering it's resources. It fails in the simplest of tasks and just relies on numbers, which you judge is a metric of how good a military is. I know you don't like to admit it but it's true.
>>534528142Iran is artificially poor
Iran’s plan is to charge ships passing through the strait Hormuz to pay for the damage to their country by the USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia and Israel.
>>534527826Again?
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>>534531697If Iran gets nukedPakistan, China and North Korea have all implied they would nuke Israel lol
>>534532039A victory for every foot of height in the Trump Triumph Arch!So we will beat them at least another 220 times or so.
>>534532156No one is nuking anyone howsoever, that's literally the whole point of nukes.You never get domestically stressed by warfare enough that your enemies think you might use them.
>>534530526I dont think he is insane.His own military might coup him if it ever gets to that methinks.A palace coup at least.
>>534530040Hey now, those billions of tax payers dollars went to our greatest allies
>>534532354We owed the Iranians payback for 9/11!
>>534532422kek
>>534531418>There are many, many, many ways the US could utterly annihilate IranThen why doesn’t he?>However, because he doesn't want to fuck republicans over for the foreseeable futureFucking over his own party and legacy is the only thing he’s accomplished in all of this.
>>534532499Trump only borrowed the GOP for the greater glorification of Trump.It can utterly burn to the ground after he's left it.The real friends were the billions in Arab bribes he received along the way.
>>534528706Considering that the strait sees 100 ships pass through it a day, even splitting that with Oman, that'd make it up in 20 days.
>>534532156So it's a win-win?
>>534527826Can he finally do it this time? Can he hold out after Bibi calls him up?
>>534527826If this happens Iran and Israel would just go at it again. I can't see Israel doing a ground invasion of Iran though so it would just end up as a constant stream of suicide drones heading to Israel and the US giving Israel ungodly sums of cash for whatever it is they do with all their gibs.
>>534527826Old news. Analysis came in, would be very bad for the US.
>>534527826lmao the straits of hormuz? is it open? so much winning since we dont need it open?
>>534531418Saying you could murder millions of people over and over is exactly what Trump said you fucking retard, you can have all the tactical victories you like, murder as many children as you already did but you only win strategic victory when you destroy your enemies capacity to fight, that would cost the USA countless dead in Iran and drag Iran's allies into the war as well. Meanwhile the entirety of the gulf oil and gas production would be in flames, all the gulf states would lose their power and water infrastructure through massive drone and missile retaliation from Iran.
>>534531697>the US is capable of doing something like NUKES>but they can't because the US would not let the US do that>being able to do things doesn't matter when you can't do those things>NUKES>but the US politically won't let the US do that, so Iran has leverage
>>534532156please let this happen
