You atheist, agnostic, and irreligious types seriously don't understand the danger you are in. To help you better understand let's quantify this with two scenarios:Scenario A.) - You are right in that there is no God. All religion is fairy tail nonsense and we all came from nothingness and will return to nothingness.Scenario B.) - You are wrong, there is a God and since you've no relationship with him you cannot dwell with him in the afterlife. Your soul will go to a place where his presence is absent. A place of eternal horrors and suffering. Based off of these scenarios there is a 50/50 chance, but are you seriously willing to wager your salvation on a 50% probability?? If you disregard ALL arguments be they theological, scientific, hubristic, etc. and look at this from a PURE LOGIC perspective, logic alone dictates that you shouldn't even take the chance.inb4 >hurr muh Pascal's WagerThe purpose is to get you to look at this purely from a logical perspective. You are only one second away from eternity, each moment that passes by could be the end for you forever. You have to understand that when it's over there are no second chances, there is no "I'm sorry!" or "I didn't know! I thought it was all fake!" you decide your own fate, God forces himself onto no one. It's simple, if you reject God then he will reject you. Jesus died for your sins so that you have to atone for nothing, all you have to do is believe, keep the commandments, and live righteously. Establish a relationship with him as you would with any other human. Eternal salvation is literally as easy as making a friend.
>>534528936How do you know your god is the real one?
>false dichotomyCool
>>534528936So, you worship out of fear? Like a bitch?My god doesn't like bitches like you.
>>534528936gawd can suck my fucking dick. piece of shit
>>534528936Which god? Is it Lord Xenu?I bet it's Lord Xenu.I accept you into my heart, oh great space-lord! Cleanse me of my body-thetans!!there, I did it. Happy now?
Slave morality
>>534528936I don't believe in jew fairy tales, jew fairy tale cults, jew fairy tale characters, and not believing in jew fiction doesn't make me a follower of one of the jew fairy tale characters.
>>534528936>poverty misery porn always the mark of a zoomer.
>>534528936You need to start worshipping every god on the planet right now in case one of them is right.
>>534529025>>534529208There is only one God the one true creator of the universe, feign ignorance all you want but you know this deep with in you>>534529121The truth is not false, it is the truth.>>534529175The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom
>>534529452Keep telling yourself that.
There is no evidence or any indication at all that having a relationship with whatever or whoever god is, is a prerequisite for dwelling with god in the afterlife. Atheism and Theism are equally ill-informed. For all you know, god is shy and doesn't want your attention. And he punishes anyone who focuses too heavily on him with cock and ball torture for eternity.
>>534529178God will not be mocked, you will have to account for this.
>>534528936Look man, I'm just faithless. I give zero fucks about whatever nightmare torture might be awaiting me beyond the grave
>>534529367>I don't believe in X because I don't like Y This hubris will only lead to eternal damnation
>>534529452>one God the one true creator of the universeOk, so what do you have to do to dwell with him in the afterlife or whatever?
>>534529428>You need to start worshipping every god on the planet right now in case one of them is right.There is only one true God
>>534529489God is the father of all creation, it is in his nature to want to dwell with his creation. You and I originated from God, any good parent wants a relationship with their child.
>>534529552>I give zero fucks about whatever nightmare torture might be awaiting me beyond the graveYou say this now but you don't understand the sheer magnitude of it means to dwell in a plane of existence absent of God. Pure unfiltered horror, suffering, regret, etc. everything "bad" one thousandfold.
>>534529603Believe in the sacrifice of the one he sent to save you, Jesus Christ. That's the first step.
>>534528936The 50/50 bet falls apart as soon as you consider other scenarios that contradict these two possibilities. For example, that there are many gods. You can also dismantle the structure of the bet by considering that hell is not in the afterlife, but on earth. Or better still – God has nothing to do with hell. Besides, a loving God wouldn’t really approve of a hypocritical faith in him just to escape hell, would he? P.S.: would.
>>534528936>2 options>50-50 chancethats not how that works brother>le im so smart i just figured out pascals wagerjust kill yourself, you braindead american dog
>>534528936Either you will be hit by a meteor tonight or you won't. Is this also a 50% probability scenario, OP? You seem really bad at math.
>>534529986>there are many gods.Categorically false, there is only ONE God, the God of the Bible. The one true creator of the universe.>hell is not in the afterlife, but on earth. This is half right, Hell is in fact on Earth however it is in a different plane, the Spiritual plane>God has nothing to do with hell.This is correct Hell is the absence of God>Besides, a loving God wouldn’t really approve of a hypocritical faith in him just to escape hell, would he? P.S.: would.You presume all faith in God is hypocritical? God knows your heart, what you think God would or wouldn't approve is irrelevant, what matters is your relationship with God and each relationship is unique to God.
>>534530053>thats not how that works brotherThat is EXACTLY how that works, to foolish wait until death to know which is which is a fool's gambit and illogical>just kill yourself, you braindead american dogAd hominem, how very mature
>>534529452>There is only one God the one true creator of the universeThe Sumerian god Anu? Because he predates your jew god by 3000 years.
>>534528936it's irrelevantjust stop being pieces of shit or you get put in the box
>>534530219>X equals Y despite being two separate things with obvious differences in complexity, because I said so.Hmm I see
>>534530563>The Sumerian god Anu? Because he predates your jew god by 3000 years.Deep within you, you know this is false. Feign ignorance all you want, you know who the one true God is.
>>534529920>Pure unfiltered horror, suffering, regret, etc. everything "bad" one thousandfold.*Yawn*You get used to it eventually and then it's just another Tuesday when you're having your eyes gouged out with red hot iron rods.
>>534528936Most dogma categorizes false idolatry as a far more heinous sin than ignorance or willful non-belief, statistically it's actually better to believe in no god than the wrong one.
>>534530582>it's irrelevantFalse, salvation is of utmost relevance.
>>534528936>a self-serving binary choiceOf all of the faults caused by the abrahamic mind virus, the one I despise the most is the fear for imagination
>>534528936CHECK OUT THOSE CANONS
>>534530743>You get used to it False there is no rest or reprive, only suffering for eternity
>>534528936God is probably real and I think that's great but fuck his typical followers. A prayer:Lord, protect me from the inbred idiots who claim to know your mind
>>534530760>Most dogma categorizes false idolatry as a far more heinous sin than ignorance or willful non-belief, statistically it's actually better to believe in no god than the wrong one.This is true under the assumption that there are "multiple gods" which is false There is only one true Creator, the God of Abraham, the God of the Bible.
>>534530821>only suffering for eternityWhy?Your god sounds petty, vindictive, and sadistic.You're really not selling your god very well.
>>534530346Your argument in favour of the existence of a (Biblical) God is circular, as you link correct behaviour to conditions that you yourself have established through faith. You are also now undermining the 50/50 bet yourself, because you accept the new criteria I have introduced, namely that God has nothing to do with hell and that hell is on earth. That puts the 50/50 bet off the table.
>>534530800You reject the truth because you are afraid of the consequences. It's OK to be afraid however it is no OK to be a victim of your own hubris
>>534530953>Why?>Your god sounds petty, vindictive, and sadistic.>You're really not selling your god very well.Interesting, you make the presumption that God is the source of this suffering. Hell is the LITERAL absence of God, the reason why Earth and this plane of existence is bearable solely because of God's presence here. Love, kindness, comraderie, everything Good here is GOD, death, destruction, pain, suffering and everything bad is NOT God and HELL is nothing but bad times a million.
>>534531023Dogmatism cannot be refuted, as it is based on axioms. Only internal contradictions can resolve the issue. However, if the axiom is vague enough, even the contradictions can be overlooked (your faith wasn’t strong enough, and so on). In short: we can’t help you. You’ve already demonstrated just how vague your axioms are by redefining the 50/50 bet.
>>534530997>Your argument in favour of the existence of a (Biblical) God is circular, as you link correct behaviour to conditions that you yourself have established through faith. The existence of God has nothing to do with behavior >You are also now undermining the 50/50 bet yourself, because you accept the new criteria I have introduced, namely that God has nothing to do with hell and that hell is on earth. That puts the 50/50 bet off the table.Your "criteria" is Bibically correct all that I have done is acknowledge so, this actually supports my argument
>>534528936if there truly is a god then that god will understand my reasons. there is no danger
>>534531397>your faith wasn’t strong enough, and so onThis is silly, your faith is based on your personal relationship with God and this is unique person to person. Either you have one or you don't, either you know God or you reject him
>>534528936Nigger, if i wanted to debate I'll talk to a masterdebaiter but all i see is someone scared of being wrong.
>>534528936rabbi can't be god. Its not possible and goes against everything. Stop blasphemy divine claiming such obvious falsehoods
>>534531611>if there truly is a god then that god will understand my reasons. there is no danger>if You see, THIS is what I'm talking about. "If", are you seriously willing to wager your eternal salvation on a "If"?? That is illogical. "If" you died right now, you would be saying "If" only I knew and "If" only I had a second chance. "If" is a dangerous thing "If" anything "If" has 0 benefit.
>>534531556>>534531556You’re now taking two contradictory positions: the first, based on the bet, is that ‘you’ll go to hell in the afterlife if you don’t believe in God, who is the judge’. The second is that ‘God has nothing to do with hell / hell is on earth’. It’s tricky.
>>534531781>rabbi can't be god. Jesus was not just a teacher he was God incarnate. Modern Jews like you reject his divinity out of spite and hubris, you wait for a messiah that already came but you rejected him and killed him.
>>534532031>what IF Abraham god is one true god
>>534532151You misunderstand, Hell and Earth are not mutually exclusive. Hell is on Earth it is just a spiritual place while Earth is a physical place. Think of it as the electromagnetic spectrum, visible light and ultraviolet light are just different wavelengths on the same spectrum.
>>534532263That's not a question of "if" the one true God IS the God of Abraham.
>>534532173Im not Jewish as i can prove bellow, however your god had jewish step dad. Lets denounce false god imposter of Abraham together.
>>534532472Proof? You can't just say "because he IS the one true God." That isn't proof.
>>534528936I just imagined 998 different gods that sends you to hell for being Christian or believing in any gods while alive, but to heaven for being a non-believer. The odds are now updated to being 998/1000 that believing in the Christian god lands you in hell, but only 2/1000 that believing in the no gods get you to hell. It's just statistically more sensible to not be Christian.
>>534532532Ah I see, you are Muslim. I personally can not say nor is there enough evidence for me to believe that Mohammad was an actual ordained prophet sent by God, however Jesus is in fact God incarnate, whether you believe it or not.
>>534529452Quotes proverbs… yet another jewish book. Do it next time with out referring to your master books and you should worship God and God alone…. I’m sure your next line will be>but, b-ut you can’t reach God without Jesus!!1!1!1
>>534532659The proof is all around you, God created all that you see including you. This is made abundantly clear in his holy Word and even goes into detail as to how it was done. Ex. "Let there be light"Kinda sounds like a "Big Bang" huh? Funny how the very science that we attempt to use to disprove the Bible only vindicates it more.
>>534532398If hell isn’t a divine punishment but a metaphysical state, then there’s no bet anymore. You’re changing the terms of the original post. That’s unfair and makes you a candidate for hell ;)
>>534533045>of course the Bible is real. It says so right here in the BibleYou're not very compelling
>>534532748This argument falls apart because there is only true God, the God of Abraham. All others are either demons or fallen ones.
>>534529920If we’re all part God (because our eternal soul is God’s soul, like waves in the ocean) why would God destroy itself on purpose? It literally makes no sense, but recycling and refining the soul makes waaaaayyy more sense IMO
>>534532883It is indeed written that the only way to father is through the son, Jesus. John 3:16. This is because Jesus is Literally God incarnate, if you reject Jesus you effectively reject God.
>>534533113Yaweh is a jealous elohim that wanted all the worship to himself. He’s the impostor god… the demiurge. How do christcucks not see this!? And this is Jesus’s father, this is why all Christian nations are in decline these days
I love God
>>534533085I never said Hell wasn't a devine punishment, I've told you and stated time and time again that Hell is the absence of God. It is a spiritual plane of existence on Earth. You're just making up illogical implications now
>>534528936Jesus will forgive me. If he doesn't, he's a bad Christian.
>>534531320>Everything good here is God>Worship a description of X super loving God in jew book or suffer everlasting torment for eternity Lol what kind of micro divine penis god is this? Rofl
>>534533208Nah. This is the bastardized version of Jesus’s teachings and I will never put a mortal man (that probably never existed) a literal man-made idol above The Creator
>>534532836No you dong see and you are blinded by Abrahamism. No man can be god and Muhammad was Jewish false prophet. Lets be real, even African albino eating, jankum sniffing shamans are closer to divine than Abrahamists. Now praise Sol !
>>534533107The world itself vindicates the Bible, don't take my word for it read it yourself. Or remain ignorant, the choice is yours.
>>534528936Shut the fuck up crossnigger subhuman retard. I spit on your Jewsus.>>534533354There is no God/gods. You just die, that's it.
>>534533471Kill yourself crossnigger. I curse your Jesus.
>>534533177If we’re all part God (because our eternal soul is God’s soul, like waves in the ocean) why would God destroy itself on purpose? Our souls are indestructible because God is indestructible, and we came from God, God would not destroy himself, our actions and decisions are ours alone which means your salvation is 100% up to you.>It literally makes no sense, but recycling and refining the soul makes waaaaayyy more sense IMOSouls cannot be destroyed because God cannot be destroyed as I've stated, in the book of revelation there's is the thing called the "second death" which is the spiritual death, it is not destruction but the Eternal separation from God into the Lake of Fire. But those that believe and accept Christ will dwell with God for eternity.
>>534533304This is blasphemous, and you have been misled. Yahweh is a jealous God because he is the only TRUE God and Source of all life and everything that is good, worshiping false Gods who themselves were created by Yahweh is extremely disrespectful.
>>534533354Amen, me too.
>>534533377>Jesus will forgive me. If he doesn't, he's a bad Christian.You for some reason are under the impression that Jesus knows you
>>534533847Why do you take jewish word and metaphysics to base your spiritually on ? It's a very cucked thing to do
>>534528936.C.) I am god.
I'm planning on accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and savior on my death bed. My sins will be forgiven and I will go to heaven just like you.
least pushy christfag
>>534533376Now this is getting really far-fetched: in your original Scenario B, it literally said: “Your soul will go to a place where his presence is absent. A place of eternal horrors and suffering.” That is a classic concept of the afterlife as God’s punishment after death. But now you want both hell on earth and metaphysical/spiritual hell at the same time. Yet those are different conditions. You have destroyed the terms of your original wager yourself. You are a self-contradictory dogmatist. Think carefully about how your stubbornness can contribute to causing your fellow human beings to suffer. Incidentally, the Church has committed grave crimes on the basis of dogmatism. The problem with hermetic ways of thinking is that they can no longer critically question themselves. When this is mixed with a conception of God, moral hubris regarding the inviolability of divine judgement quickly arises. That is neither healthy nor presumptuous. God-fearingness also includes humility and reverence for an incomprehensible creation. Dogmatists are thus inherently sinners themselves.
>>534533394Ahh the good ol make fun of something using hyperbolic nonsense because you don't understand it argument, a classic.I'll break it down for then as if you were a toddler.>God create universe>God create Earth>God create human >Everthing good, God live on earth with human, nothing bad exist everything awesome>Satan trick human, introduce bad into world>everything good and bad now so God separate heaven from Earth leaves man on Earth>God turn into human to fix everything >God come back to earth as human and fix everything >Human now have option to be with God in Heaven or be in Hell where God is not>some silly human like (you) think God "put" people in hell>Human actually put themself in Hell because they not want be with God>this make God sad >God want everyone be with him but cannot MAKE human be with him>gave human free will>human choose who be with
>>534533427My friend it is scripture therefore it is the truth. And even if you don't believe in the divine Jesus there was certainly a historical Jesus
>>534529452I worship the God of the universe, the All-Father. I don't have a holy book. My God is all powerful and doesn't need a faggotpilled and fag enabling book to push his agenda. My God's will is self-evident. By looking to the universe itself we can discern some basic facts about God.1. Utopianism, Heaven, peace, love, empathy, and tolerance are lies. To indulge in these fantasies is to earn the ire of God. Libcucks promote this faggot shit and it destroyed society. Bigotry, hate, and violence created paradise on Earth while acceptance, love, and peace utterly destroyed them. It only logically stands to reason then that God doesn't care for faggot principles like these, otherwise it wouldn't have ruined everything.2. God suffers not to weak. The strong florish, the weak perish. It is the will of God that the strong should dominate the weak.3. Pain is necessary. Heaven is a retarded coon filled behavior sink. Fuck heaven. Heaven was made up later and before that it was common knowledge by everyone that prayed to your god that everyone went to Sheol when they died. 'Everyone goes to Hell' predates Heaven. How do you explain that? You don't even bother. Your gay ass slave religion invented wokeness by preaching faggotpilled ideas like equality, natural rights, and feminism.The problem I have with christcucks is that the god they describe and the one on display irl are total opposites. If God is real, then he is a staunch and total Social Darwinist with no patience for untermensch. I can respect and honor that God. This jewish controlled opposition sect that venerates a stupid book as the will of the one God, but not the creation that actually matters in the natural world. God made nature tough, made people who faced it either die or come back stronger, then turn around and say it's the fault of Satan, ignoring God created Satan and knew every move he would make in advance meaning Satan's will is too an extension of God's will.
>>534528936> there is a GodWhich god though, there are thousands to choose from. And you know what angers a god more than anything else, you worshiping the wrong one. So if atheism is the safest choice. Atheists might get sent to regular hell, but you people who are worshiping the wrong god, you will sent to worst of hells.
>>534533437Well believe it or not God was at one point a human, funny how you worship the Sun, a creation of God. Doesn't make sense for the created to worship the created, the created should be worshiping the creator.
>>534528936How do you know God doesn't want you to suck my dick? Better do it, just to be sure
>>534533502I don't know who you are anon, but I'm going to pray for you.
>>534534582passive-aggressive seething
>>534528936I think Pascal had the wager framed incorrectly. God ostensibly cares if you believe in him, according to Christian theology. That's what you have to do to get into heaven -- believe. Believing is, in this theological model, the single most impactful action you can take in order to impose some kind of conditional on the hereafter. If we assume that to be true, then the rational option is DISBELIEF, not belief. If belief governs outcomes, and if belief subjects you to judgment and arbitrary rules imposed by something else, why would you give up control by believing? I can simply disbelieve instead and return to nothingness instead of relying on the whim of an all-powerful being I may have willed into existence. Disbelief is protective in this circumstance. It is how you avoid even the chance of burning in hell for all eternity.
>>534528936Why are there 0 organic woke movements outside of countries that were Christian majority 100 years ago? Why do Satan's lies so effectively repel the emergence of fugpackers but the love of Christ seems to cause them to spontaneously manifest? China is 91% atheist. Can fags marry in China? Faggot marriage was forced upon Asia by the US and you see it in that it was only legalzied recently and exclusively in US vassel states. Dumb retards like you want to fight China when that is you wasting Christian lives to protect gay marriage in Taiwan. You do realize that right?Also heaven is half nigger at this point, so even the aftelife will be a low trust shithole.
>>534534553The Sun? You mean that thing that sustains every complex lifeform on the planet? That thing that is constantly drawing us in with an invisible and irresistible force? That thing that literally forces you to AVERT YOUR EYES if you try to gaze upon it? Yeah, definitely not a God. I know cause my sandnigger book says so.
>>534528936I reject your premise, I have no reason to believe that your claims about supernatural entities are in any way valid.
>>534534032>Why do you take jewish word and metaphysics to base your spiritually on ? It's a very cucked thing to doGod transcends your silly notions and misconsceptions about Christianity. I am not blinded by my own hubris like (you) I know the truth, Jesus is the truth. Don't take my word for it, read the Bible learn the truth for yourself, change your ways and watch the transformation happen in your life in real time.
>>534534057No, you are not.
>>534534124>I'm planning on accepting Jesus Christ as my lord and savior on my death bed. My sins will be forgiven and I will go to heaven just like you.You are playing a dangerous game, God will NOT be MOCKEDMatthew 721 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
>>534528936What are your thoughts on Jews OP? What about the State of Israel? Race mixing? John Brown? The Quakers Movement? The origins of Feminism in the Quaker movement? Do you believe in natural rights? Equality? Equity?I'd like to have an honest discussion if you don't mind.
>>534534438I like the perspective from which you approach God. But your further remarks betray a rather crude form of atheistic social Darwinism. Let’s just pick out the biggest fallacy: associating love with weakness. True, deep love of reconciliation, for example, includes the enemy precisely because he is understood as part of a greater game. This perspective prevents one from being consumed by anger and hatred, even in war.
>>534534943>God will NOT be MOCKEDThose sacred chosen people you fight and die for say they can mock him and even correct him. Moreover, your god sits there and takes it. He even concedes to the smelly rabbis.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oven_of_AkhnaiAnd yet webm is what you people say about them.
>>534534302>Now this is getting really far-fetched: in your original Scenario B, it literally said: “Your soul will go to a place where his presence is absent. A place of eternal horrors and suffering.” That is a classic concept of the afterlife as God’s punishment after death. But now you want both hell on earth and metaphysical/spiritual hell at the same time. Yet those are different conditions. I DEFY you to give me ANY biblical sources that states Hell is any but here on Earth I'll wait.>You have destroyed the terms of your original wager yourself. You are a self-contradictory dogmatist. Think carefully about how your stubbornness can contribute to causing your fellow human beings to suffer. Incidentally, the Church has committed grave crimes on the basis of dogmatism. The problem with hermetic ways of thinking is that they can no longer critically question themselves. When this is mixed with a conception of God, moral hubris regarding the inviolability of divine judgement quickly arises. That is neither healthy nor presumptuous. God-fearingness also includes humility and reverence for an incomprehensible creation. Dogmatists are thus inherently sinners themselves.The truth isn't dogma, either you know God or you don't, those that do will dwell will him in the afterlife those that don't will not. I'm simply pointing out how illogical it is to base your salvation on a 50% chance which is effectively what it is. Logic simply dictates that you shouldn't even take the chance, you're overcomplicating things with strawmans and various other fallacies that have little to nothing to do with the original thought experiment.
>>534528936I love life, humans, and everything around me. Nothing fills me with more joy than admiring the world and the never ending beauty of it.I sincerely hope god doesn't exist, after all the suffering I've seen, learned about from our past and what is still to come in our future, all the innocent lives shattered, while a god watches us at all times and does nothing, but demands to be worshipped or you suffer eternally, I'll kill this faggot nigger god when I get into the afterlife, even if I have to crawl out of hell to get to him.
>>534534816>I know the truthYou know a version of your god that was invented less than 100 years ago. The first worshippers of your god didn't even believe in heaven? Do you believe 90% of people who believed what you believe all had it wrong and the right version of it showed up yesterday? I would have thought the older a conception is, the more likely it is to be accurate, not less.
To answer that hoe>pill>abortions>casual sex>SSRIs>daddy issues>alcohol >drugs
>>534534713kek, get ready to be fucking ignored cause christcucks have no rebuttle.
>>534528936There is a 0% chance that God is real so it’s not a 50/50 it’s scenario a is correct and scenario b is for superstitious idiots that need to be led
>>534528936that is a good channel soft white underbellythat woman and many other are product and consequence of highly pious and virtuous and wholesome americunt cults like the one this op npc is definitely propagatingnow wonder people over there well desu in anglosphere in general run away from "god" since in their minds those slimy pedo cults represent godgood channel, should check out the stories>>5345290251. virtue signaling because he/she/them is wholsome2. needs validation that his "faith" in reality indoctrination is correct one since billy bob's pentacost-baptist-7thday-jehova's-moromon corner temple etc etc etc 1000 cults is indeed the correct onerapture is coming btw it was announced on the tv not too long ago, burgers are bringing jesus back and invoking armageddon repent ye unfaithful
>>534535330What is "pill"? What is "abortion"? What is "casual sex"? What is "SSRI"? What is "daddy issues"? What is "alcohol"? What is "drugs"?
>>534535259Hell is underground nigger. The jews though earth was flat and sheol was beneath the ground and the sky was a dome made of water and firmament. Why are you pretending not to know this?
>>534528936There are as many different scenarios as can be imagined. One scenario is that God exists and will punish everyone who is NOT an atheist with eternal suffering. Pascals wager burns everybody equally
The fact that Allah is supposed to be Lucifer in the guise of God yet his influence has led to their being 0 feminism in the Middle East, shitloads of nationalism, no globalist attitudes and TKD being the default attitude. The fact East Asia is almost entirely Buddhist/Atheist, yet fags can't marry there, nationalism is normal, migrants are turns away and feminism is a foreign concept except when they are a western vassal state.Being Christian in the year 1900 pretty much guarantees you have legal fag marriage in 2026 The only exceptions are ex-communist countries, ie: countries that aren't going woke now because they already did last century's version of wokeness.China is 91% atheist. Can fags get married in China? Come to think of it, what East Asian countries can fags marry in? Oh look, only American vassals, and usually in direct opposition to majority opinion. San Francisco alone has 800,000+ trannies on the emptiest continent on Earth. The famous home of the ladyboy, Thailand, is closer to ~314,000. Not Bangkok mind you, all of Thailand. And that's on the most populous continent.There has never, in the history of religion been a religion more shit at opposing the jews than Christianity. Jews don't control Syria, yet they've been trying to for thousands of years. America wasn't even known to exist when jews started trying to undermine Syria; yet America had time to be discovered, colonized, fight for independence, become established, rise to global superpower and become a jewish puppet state then use that puppet to try to exert jewish influence over Syria all in the time jews have been trying and failing to take over Syria. Shintoists, Islamists and Asian state atheists are all spitting on God, yet home to far less degeneracy then the countries thst embraced him. Results speak for themselves. Christianity failed. Accepting Jesus as your personal savior means your great grandchildren will all turn into fudgepacking homosexuals.
>>534535259You keep calling it “logic”, but everything you say rests on an axiom you refuse to question.You started with a 50/50 wager, then changed the structure of hell, then appealed to the Bible, and now you just repeat the same claim as if nothing happened.That’s not reasoning, that’s conviction. Which is fine – but then don’t pretend it’s a logical argument.
>>534534956>What are your thoughts on Jews OP?Misguided, stubborn, stiff-necked. They are for God to deal with, though truth be told there are no more Jew nor Gentile under Christ's covenant because those that believe in him are God's chosen.>What about the State of Israel? I'm indifferent about the state of Israel, but I certainly don't agree with my government's unwavering support of them >Race mixing? Indifferent, love is love, as Long as it is between a man and woman race or skin color is irrelevant >John Brown? Don't know much about him other than he was a prominent figure during the Civil War Era >The Quakers Movement? They have heretical sentiments>The origins of Feminism in the Quaker movement? The feminist movement was an elaborate scam that got out of control>Do you believe in natural rights? Biblically speaking all people have natural God given rights>Equality? This is subjective, but in a perfect world everyone is equal >Equity?Also subjective, but in today's world equity is based on capital gain or how valuable you are as an individual
>>534528936Why can’t chriggers understand that some people have conviction in their beliefs kek. Are you gonna convert to all religions to cover all the bases? If someone’s beliefs don’t include your idea of hell, then you’re wasting your fucking time trying to convince them. Get a fucking clue holy shit
>>534528936If "Yahweh" is God then I'd prefer to be as far away from him as possible thank you
>>534535321>You know a version of your god that was invented less than 100 years ago. God has been around since the beginning of time>The first worshippers of your god didn't even believe in heaven? Are you asking? I'm not sure where you get this notion from >Do you believe 90% of people who believed what you believe all had it wrong and the right version of it showed up yesterday? Jesus is the way the truth and the life, that is what matters belief in anything else doesn't >I would have thought the older a conception is, the more likely it is to be accurate, not less.No sure what you mean by this
>>534536169How do you know that your favorite book is the book which accurately describes what God wants? Why your book and not some other book?
>>534534713Man does what is right in man's own eyes, the flesh is wicked therefore it will do and condone wickedness, this has nothing to do with God, there are many that claim to be "Christian" yet do not live Jesus' teachings these are wolves in sheep's clothing. The Bible warns of these people.
>>534536298The Holy Bible is God's written word, everything about the world vidicates the Bible and the Bible ONLY, from current events to very fabric of society. Don't take my word for it read it yourself or don't remain ignorant and blinded by your own hubris.
>>534536478It doesn't seem like a hubristic question to me. There are many different books. Each of them claims privileged knowledge on God's nature, qualities, and priorities. As someone who has no attachment to any of them, why should I choose the Bible's version of God over the others?
>>534528936I believe in God/Gods, but not in a religion. Religion is an obvious man made construct around the belief of God/Gods.
>>534528936>You are wrong, there is a God and since you've no relationship with him you cannot dwell with him in the afterlife.uh, says who? you?
>>534536478>The Holy Bible is God's written wordand your cults modified it numerous times to suit your multi-cult agendahere is the problem: "those who change even a letter" ..paraphrasing but it is in there. besides everything you done + keep doing + about to do.so good luck.
>>534528936If souls are real then the soul already knows god even if the mind doesn't If you have a sense of morality then in a sense you know god, even if you do not call them by name.
I'm going to pray, read my Bible, and go to sleep now. The purpose of this thread was to provoke the thoughts of those that are unsure. Please don't bet your salvation on a 50% chance, God loves each individual atom of your entire being, so much so that he came to earth in the form of a man to personally save us from ourselves. God doesn't "send" people to hell, you send yourself to hell for rejecting God, because if you reject God the only other place for you to go is where God isn't, a horrible place. Jesus loves you, he is the way the truth and the life, the ONLY path to God is through Christ. Salvation is FREE, believe in Christ and his sacrifice, keep the commandments, repent of your sins, talk to God everyday. Treat him as if he were a close friend, God wants a personal relationship with you, he already knows you on a intimate level because he created you, so you're not hiding anything from God, accept Jesus and your life will change. I'm a living testimony. Good night/morning and God bless.
>>534528936oh no, then why did God create me short? Out of all things. And then poor and short. Fuck off. No one is born equal down here and I refuse to bow to you, ever.
>>534536984You don't want to answer this question, huh? >>534536616
>>534536478If the Bible is the only source of truth, you still need to explain who wrote it, when, and why.If humans wrote it, then it is a human document.If God wrote it, you need to show how you know that without already assuming it.
>accept pascal's wager>get to heaven>realise I have to spend eternity with scared cowards who "hedged their bets" and bowed their heads out of fearNigger, I'd prefer hell
>>534537241People wrote it but didn't author it.WheneverWhy not? >you need toI don't lol lmao
