>drone warfrareAre westerners ready for it?
>>534539975>Are westerners ready for it?nopedrones are new technology just like machine guns were in WW1chinks will make 1 million drones and then send 10,000 of them to sink aircraft carrierafter USA loses 2 aircraft carriers and 17 battle ship escorts then we will change and start making drone carrier ships
>>534540695how is the drone going to fly 100 miles across the ocean to blow up a navy vessel?
>>534539975Only partly as can be seen by Ukraine not steamrolling Russia but "only" grinding it to a halt.
whats important is being part of the global economic class who dont have to fightPoors are sent to the frontjust dont be poor
>>534539975Every western country is training with drones as we speak. They're also building new drone factories. If they're not ready now, they will be soon.
>>534540695>drones are new technology just like machine guns were in WW1this, we will get to experience shell shock like our great grandparents, witness to unthinkable killing machines capable of inhumane death that nobody could have warned us of. Imagine an AI controlled drone swarn with one specific goal, to kill you, we will be driven underground and go crazy.
>>534539975does israel count as westerner?
>>534540751>how are we going to stab us at a distance?>how are they going to stop us from cutting them?>how are they going to destroy our walls with huge rocks from even more distance than ever before?>how are they going to hit us with those metallic balls?>how are they going to make those metallic projectiles even more portable and compact?>how are they going to make those metallic projectiles even more deadly and rain down from the sky?>how are they going to make vehicles that are moving fortresses of death?>how are they going to move planes that move faster than sound?>how are they going to make floating fortresses?>how are they going to attack us from with a payload from thousands of miles away?>how are they going to vaporize an entire city with a bomb the size of a car?>how are they going to move decent payloads very fast and effectively for cheap?>how are they going to fly those for 100 milesYou are here.
>>534540695they've already done simulations of drone swarms trying to attack aircraft carriers and they don't even make it past the strike group and that's without the carrier having a growler on board
>>534541637that's fine how many drones in the simulation?there is no way a carrier group can stop a swarm of 50,000 drones
>>534541725they did a swarm of 2000 but with the carriers early warning system and having a growler on board they can send that up and blind everything
>>534540695http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/m4klpTa5EKQ846diL7cgnw>China Aerospace Corp is providing quantum communication module & other functions to support swarming functionalityDear God, what are they planning?
>>534541966>>534542064YELLOW PERIL
>>534540751this dumbass think they use consumer grade dji drones. The craziest genius thing in this topic I've seen someone say here was a Chinese factory producing ridiculous amounts of internal combustion engines out of plastics for drone warfare. Those motors are super cheap and have long range but will not last more then one flight which doesn't matter when it's intended purpose is to blow itself up.
>>534539975Well, we are already testing it on you, i believe well be ok
Westerners are immune to drone warfare because they can park a carrier strike group 800km away and cause the adversary to unconditionally surrender like in Iran.
>>534542475and any jamming immediately kills them if not done with fiber optics and surely you can see where the problem is with having 100 miles of cables for 50000 drones when 10 mile ones already eat up 30% of the payload capacity
>>534541966wtf is a "growler"?
>>534542619autonomous drones with self targeting systems do not need an operator. Auto detection of larger targets as carriers is simple as fuck.
>>534540751WIth a 50$ two stroke gasoline engine?
>>534542628Electronic warfare plane of the burgers.
>>534542690neat ir signature
>>534542136you guys have the tech to withstand an emp attack but unfortunately you have too many saboteurs in your governments, i think Hillary Clinton was one of the ones that blocked potential contractors that can install the components that would stop vital systems and grids from being fried
>>534542671Now just add it to underwater drone and being a sailor turns into a nightmare.
>>534542727Not even Phalanx would be able to intercept 100 of those at low altitude though. Also you could simply shut down the engine and glide in for the terminal phase and build the drones out of non radio reflective materials like balsa wood or you know, foam board...
Mini sub drones would be way harder to spot and kill than air based ones. Far easier for a handful to get through.
Unless they start making drone hunter drones you might as well not bother staying alive as infantry
>>534542711a flying jammer, Got it. Useless if there's no need for radio communication.>>534542835you're right, those deliver much larger payloads as well.
>>534542842Also this. A drone doesnt have to fly.
>>534542671so not cheap and off the shelf drones then but things that carry advanced long range optics, astro inertial navigation due to gps jamming to even get to visual range and having all that while carrying big enough payload to significantly damage a boat the size of three wal marts
>>534542880And what is scary is that fish usually follow ships, since there are scraps of food, now is the a fish or a drone. Ship engines make a certain frequency when moving so I doubt that it would be hard to program a drone to find it and go boom. Now there is probably a way to plan around them, but still it is terrifying to be a sailor in current times.
>>534542836Trying to use shitty small drones to attack large surface ships is stupid. The Chinese have plenty actual anti-ship missiles that can damage a carrier. Also Phalanx doesn't work very well, it's a cope system that doesn't do shit against a serious incoming target. Missile based CIWS is better but realistically if something gets through the air wing and AEGIS escorts then it's probably going to hit the carrier.
>>534539975wheres the drone
>>534542880Jammer didn't work out too well for these ziggers
>>534542880drones are radio controlled and it's a relatively upgraded tech, it replaced the prowlers that were in use up until 2010, it also knocked out both russian and chinese latest air defense and radars in venezuela
>>534542943I'm not sure what your definition of cheap is, but all of that is extremely cheap right now. For that simple detection even a raspberry pi is more then enough, but there are even cheaper specialized options out there. The sensors aren't expensive either. The most expensive part will be the materials to make the physical drone with good enough payload capacity. But then take numbers into account, Iran's drones are considered cheap, but you wouldn't be able to afford one.
>>534539975Why would you kill yourself like that ? You could literally strip naked and just troll shoot into the sky and run around.
>>534543005This isn't anything that different to existing risks from sea mines or torpedoes. A carrier is almost impossible for a small drone to sink, the Soviets reckoned on them taking multiple hits with large AShMs like the Shipwreck. It's the same with the Chinese ballistic AShMs.
Oh wow, puccia managed to get 3 recorded hohol suicides over the span of 4 years.Now you're only about 430 webms behind the Ukies.lmao
>>534543107What happened here?Also >bullets go right through armour>dies instantlyWaste of money at this point
>>534543192It's very hard for something like that to operate over the open ocean and you need to actually find where the carrier group is. It's inferior in every single way to firing a salvo of actual missiles at Mach 4 from a plane.
>>534543192its a retarded idea and the cost to effect ratio is abysmal just do torpedoes and missiles and stop being retarded
>>534539975Yes.
Im not ready.
Every single zigger propagandist since 2025 has been very consistent in expressing that Ukraine is overwhelmingly winning the drone war, with them developing better drone tech, are faster to deploy new tech and outproduce puccian factories by a significant margin.Is puccia ready for drones? You snow nigerians are still sleeping acting like its 2023.
>drones are mildly useful>drones are mildly useful <--- your here>drones are mildly useful>drones are mildly useful>you can now cheaply scramble their signal>drones are useless>drones are useless>drones are useless>drones are useless
>>534544002When are you going back?
>drone warfrarePidors were not ready.Have this ancient pidor meme that explains what pidors expected to happen.You already know what actually happened.
>>534540825You will not become a billionaire. Even IF you are a multi millionaire you will have to leave europe, which you can do already (for now)
>>534544060Hand, wall outlet, timestamp, you br*wn cunt. You're a shitskin until proven otherwise, like all outed chuggies.
>>534544154You didn't answer the question. I accept your concession hohol
>drones are mildly useful>drones are mildly useful <--- your here>drones are mildly useful>drones are mildly useful>you can now cheaply triangulate drone pilot's location and launch a missile at his exact location automatically>drones are useless>drones are useless>drones are useless>drones are useless
>>534541725>>534541966Basically you have two types of drones, long range or short range. The only way to jam-proof short range drones used to be hooking them up to a filament cable like certain shoulder fired missile systems, and for long range drones to program it to strike a specific GPS coordinate using the same methods as analog ICBMs (this of course is useless against moving targets like aircraft carriers). Until America reverse-engineered a Shahed, called it the LUCAS, and stuck a Starlink terminal in the top which makes jamming all but impossible. Only America can do this because Elon Musk shuts off Starlink access to non-American users at the least convenient times. So, for the foreseeable future, we have a monopoly on the only kind of drone targeting and control system which could possibly be effective against our aircraft carriers
>>534543298I'm not going to act like I'm more knowledgeable on this subject then you, but can't drones incapacitate a carrier or any other ship?
>>534542475How will they keep communication? Most drones for warfare are fly by wire...
>>534544271What if he's in a bunker deep in enemy territory using satellite connection or fibre optics?
>>534543198the other option is being drone bombed and bleed to death.
>>534543723>>534543786Pretty sure Ukraine has sunk multiple ships with automated boat drones already.missiles and torpedoes are notoriously expensive, but drone tech might force that to improve itself as well, as the biggest difference there is the method of delivering the payload. Internal combustion, rocket, jet or electric motor all have their use cases. Rockets can be made extremely inexpensive as well.
>>534546118yep getting some toyota truck in good shape becomes the biggest obstacle from starting your own antijewish taliban group with your buddies
>>534540751Chink are everywhere
>>534539975In 2025 Ukraine produced 4 million drones and in 2026 it's gonna be 7 million. I fear that it's Russians who aren't prepared for drone warfare.
>>534543704when you slava krani but its zigger trench
>>534539975they really only work in a stalemate situation , western doctrine is to fuck everything asap and avoid ww1 situations. insurgency wars was unfortunate, they were lucky drones werent around then
Drones are, in fact, weapons that are only feasible in countries that do not care about civilian harm or human rights.The reason drones are cheap is that they lack expensive positioning sensors. Therefore, there is a possibility that they could accidentally fly into areas where civilians are present and attack them. if sensors were added to drones, their cost would skyrocket.A country like the US, which prioritizes human rights, cannot manufacture such weapons.
>>534540751how shaheds fly 1000 miles?
>>534548306are you implying that girl school in Iran was targeted and destroyed deliberately - killing dozens children in the process?isnt this a war crime?
>>534539975According to our Politicians and generals Draft is enough, drones to expensive and money spent on drones is a money that doesn't go into politician's pockets.
>>534548306that's some crazy ass thing to say. The only way to defend that is to declare all enemies of the US as non humans, which ironically enough includes the US population.I mean is there anything they haven't done? With way US supports Israel they are probably the country that respects human rights the least. From bioweapons (ticks that give you meat allergies + covid and trojan vaccines) and false flags on their own population to killing entire families of the people who negotiate for peace to geocoding whole people. Yeah that's very humane. >>53454899010 dozen, isn't it 150 people dead in that girl school, including 120 children?
>>534548990>>534548306the excuse in the girl school bombing shows how little they care for human lives as well, >it was an AI error because of street naming. Those lazy assholes are already using AI for auto targeting in warfare without human vetting when using huge areal bombs.
>>534546118>Pretty sure Ukraine has sunk multiple ships with automated boat drones already.Corvettes operating close to shore in the Black Sea/Azov, yes. A carrier group 300 miles offshore and on an actual ocean, no. >>534544736>can't drones incapacitate a carrier or any other ship?Depends at what point you'd consider something a drone. A loitering sea mine type-thing with a supercavitating charge would do the job, same with some sort of scaled up Lancet or Harop that's basically an anti ship missile that hangs around until it sees something. Those already exist though, they're called planes
>>534539975>ready for warAFAIK canada has been desperately expanding their non-existent military.but i wouldn't worry aboot that, bud
>>534539975Im just not gonna go lol
>>534540751you evidently can't change that Iran regime without dem' boots on the ground, so get to it shabbos boy, the most succesful decapitation didn't work, bombing schoolgirls didn't work, bombing everything didn't work, you know what to try next heehee
>>534543155>doesnt know anything about frequencies
stil no drones
>>534541212>>534542475>>534542690>>534548717>>534550630Just admit you know nothing about:>drones, >radio, >signals, >frequencies, >explosives, >firearms, >payload mechanisms, >logistics, >armor, >material density, >physics, >supply, >electronics, >electricity, and >computers.
>>534553048Oh oops, forgot.>AviationYou guys know nothing about weapons or technology.
>>534550448>Im just not gonna g
>>534553048>not a single retort to my postConcession accepted.
>>534539975Yeshttps://www.kongsberg.com/what-we-do/ocean-space/surveillance-monitoring/dr/dr100-s-uas/
>>534539975This shit is satanic. Demonic even. Jews really are the synagogue of satan.Also all these vids of artillery shells barraging trenchlines, thermobaric FABs destroying cities, and drone snuff have wreaked havoc on military recruitment numbers. Decades of Call of Duty glorification propaganda undone by videos from the Ukraine conflict.
>>534539975riskies think they fpv drones (1 per few square km at most intensity)is le scary drone warfarewait untill you see chinese ai controled locusts swarm of drones1000 drones per square km cleaning entire line of contact iy from infaantry and vehices
>>534553419>go limpWhat now, recruiters?
Just shoot the drones bro!
>>534542628a big hairy vagina
>>534554134>Jews really are the synagogue of sat- ACK!!!
>>534554365they only show you the 1 in 50 footage where don't get easily shot down
>>534554255Will look lovely over Vladivostok
>>534554326checkmate
>>534554527>stay limp until they throw you in jailWhat now Ivan?
