Everyone who thinks this is sane communication to this point I consider worth to be put in the foreverbox for being too stupid for humanity. Iam serious this is pathetic clownmaxxing beyond any scale, Have some selfrespect
Americans deserve this man
>>534551785Yes.
>>534551785'No they dont. sure they fucked up several times but this is just disturbing. These people need help
>>534551724The stock market is at ATH. You lost, tranny
In Obama years America was widely loved across the world. America's allies loved America. America's traditional adversaries loved America even. Maybe not governments but the people. And yes even many great overtures were made here to Laos and Cuba etc. which was world changing and showed it's time to put the past behind.Then Trump came... now America is seen as psychopaths. This meant so much to Laos, how he apologized and said let's build a good future together:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZXHhhY65woTrump would never be able to communicate like that.
>>534551724>what has been agreed toAHAHHAHATHIS NIGGA THINKS HE STILL GETTING THE DEAL FROM BEFORE THE WAR
>>534551948Make sure you tell that message to everyone who's mad about fuel prices in the midterms.I'm sure they'll be overjoyed to hear about Exxon Mobil's stock price.
americans in general are just the dumbest people in the world. unable to actually think about anything, process anything. trump's profoundly stupid and absurd communication doesn't come across that way to a lot of people in this country, because they don't even know what normal thinking or logic is even supposed to look like.
The part that gets me is the miggers that defend this. Like just admit you got fooled. Doubling down because of sunk cost fallacy is so unsexy
GASIES PRICEYS GOING UPWHERES MY BREAKFAST BURRITO AND MCMUFFIN
>>534551724>cucks out 2 days into operation freedumb after losing a refueling plane>copes and seethes on his fake twitter
Imagine caring what a bunch of durka sand niggers are doing on the other side of world. drop a nuke on those niggas who gives a fuck
>>534551964The world believed in the covid hoax. They believe what the media tells them. Even now, headlines claiming Trump is unhinged and an ego maniac etc..are shaping public opinion. Obama was very anti america so its no surprise our enemies adored him.
>>534551948>The stock market is at 50k who cares about the Epstein FilesLmfao pedo stfu
>>534552049
>>534551785I really can't think of a man who better represents the average American right winger spiritually and intellectually. This is why they love him in the first place
>>534552137>Covid hoax >Obama was very anti-America>Trump, the guy sucking up to all your adversaries and hating your allies and selling out the USA for corrupt family deals is pro-AmericaMAGA is hopeless... I feel like 50% of Westoids got lobotomized during covid ofr something
>>534552186>memeflaglmao
>>534551724That post crashed oil prices until the high IQ guys got into the office this morning and was able to correctly interpret it. It works on dummies so it did what it was supposed to do.
>>534551964euroqueers are always desperate to prove how much they love negroids and muslims
>>534552050also when you dare to say that americans are dumb, the typical response is to call you elitist and to say this is why you lose elections. which is just another part of the stupidity. its a very dumb way to respond.
>>534552278>Mentall ill troon attacking shadowsHe literally never said in his post Trump is pro US. You are unironically schizophrenic. Also all of his points were true lmao.
>>534551785At first I was going to say "nah they don't" because I like most american flag comments on /pol/ but tbf you're kinda right.Between the leftist imbeciles with TDS who think Trump is literally Hitler, the cvckservatives who think he's a hero even though he got nothing significant done, just due to stimuli from fox news that repeatedly tells them Trump is great, and the boomers who actually want high inflation and high home prices to make their children's lives as awful as possible and tell them "don't like having your money stolen? well, work harder and make more, you entitled brat!", they unironically do deserve it.But in Europe we are stupider and deserve worse. >>534551948Because of money printing you imbecile. They're stealing from wagies.
>>534552431He heavily implies it. Maybe you need to go to reading school. He implies Obama was popular for being anti-american (this Trump must be UNPOPULAR for being pro-American) Maybe Canadian education is not exactly the sweetest mango
>>534552050Blame the left for poisoning the well, gaslighting, being blatant hypocrites, engaging in bad faith constantly etc. etc. etc. for like 20 years. Now people just don't care cuz political discourse has been a dumpster fire for over a decade at this point
>>534551724lol you're OBSESSED
>>534552647>I blame you for all my problems while absolving me of any responsibilityI wish you could hear yourself talk. So instead I’ll just point and laugh.
>>534551785Nothing about his first term indicated he would turn out to be like this. His followers were genuinely duped. The only ones who deserve him are the people who still support him.
>>534551927You could say the USA needs a 'freedom' intervention
>>534552559According to data Laosians(?) have the smallest dicks in the world. Does this also mean women have the best vaginas? Care to comment?
>>534551724>europoor fails even basic understanding of politicsNo surprise you got conquered by Pakistanis. Trump killed 3 birds with 1 stone here>OPECFragmentation of OPEC means that oil becomes a competitive commodity again instead of the fixed rates system that they established. This means better prices for everybody.>BRICS cuckingBRICS is an enemy of the United States and wants to become a new ruling order. Their plan was to have Russia establish dominion over all of Europe and North Africa, while China would control all of Asia. Vassal nations like Iran and Venezuela were meant to serve as proxies for control and influence. Russia jumped the gun and killed itself without much pushing (which China probably didnt mind all that much because it gives them an in to start buying out Russia), but China had hopes to do things differently. Iran being drawn out like this exposes Chinese technology as entirely fake and made only for AI videos on tiktok, and also highlights how incredibly weak BRICS really is.>breaks Iranian ambitionsIran had goals to conquer the entire Middle East (they even now try to claim parts of Oman) but as we can see, were easily shattered militarily and the IRGC is now fighting an existential war for its very survival as rulers over Iran.
>>534552920>According to dataWhat data? Are you telling me somebody went around measuring dick size? That sound really dubious and more like a gay fantasy you're having...
>>534552808ok libtard
>>534553141Dont you sully anime
>>534552397>Laos is in Europedont make americans look more stupid than necessary
>>534552278Covid is fake. Obama is gay. And these crooks would be doing their shady business no matter who is in office. Youre adoption of these media charactatures only shows that you are a sheep
>>5345529521. Americans enjoy high oil prices like the rest of the world, while Oil companys maybe make mor eprofit (good for the already rich people)2.America lost hard and softpower in the whole world. Byebye Worldpower. China doesnt give a fuck and trump is cucking. >Their plan was to have Russia establish dominion over all of Europe and North Africa, while China would control all of Asiayeah thats a lot of fanfiction you pulled out of your ass.3. Iran was pretty much on a constant verge of collaps of the regime. I pretty much doubt they had any ideas of conquering anything. Reads like more of your fanfiction from out of your ass. But maybe you have qualified sources to proof
>>534551948print money so it looses its worth>muh stocks are at ATHnow try comparing their actual value with something a little bit harder to print... like gold or silver...
>>534551785They voted for it, they voted for humilliation and pedophilia and kike subservience. Some of them voted for this three times
>>534551948And not even Warren Buffet understands why. That's rather suspicious.
>>534551724he writes like a literal retard. although I suppose he doesn't actually write and just dictates them.
>>534554164>Americans enjoy high oil prices like the rest of the worldWe are not in OPEC. OPEC has been an oil export competitor and can collectively price control. UAE leaving throws a wrench into that.>America lost hard and softpower in the whole worldThat's objectively false. We brought the IRGC to its knees with a single aircraft carrier. This conflict in the Straits is not even flexing 5% of our total strength. You are living in a delusion of spite.>China doesnt give a fuckChina's entire image depends on their perception on social media platforms like tiktok and Twitter, watching all of their technology get swept aside is a major blow to that image.>Iran was pretty much on a constant verge of collapsAnd now it is a guarantee. The IRGC can barely organize a coherent military strategy, they have already alienated themselves from every single one of their neighbors and had to institute draconian censorship laws including locking out the entire internet indefinitely for the entire country. Thats not sustainable at all unless they want to become an irrelevant circus country like North Korea. Good for memes and nothing else.
>>534551724>the bombings will be much more intense0*1000 is still 0
>>534552824retard spottedhis second term is literally just continuation of his first one
>>534554591we will see
>>534551724So we're back to the old plan: apply ordinance until desired effect achieved. Hasn't worked so far. I'm starting to think this whole thing was a huge mistake...
>>534551724Cry more muhammad.
>>534551724I feel like I'm in some twisted black comedy. Have done for a while now.
>>534552137>The world believed in the covid hoax. So did Trump you fucking retard. Operation warp speed and Trump bragging about being the first to roll out the vaccines.
>>534554591>We brought the IRGC to its knees with a single aircraft carrier.We destroyed the world's 50th strongest navy and the 60th most powerful air force, and expended half our munitions destroying half their munitions, took one look at their natural defenses and noped, set fire to the laundry room and fled the Strait.Not a lot of kneeling was detected.
>>534553932>charactatures
>>534554931We did not flee anything. We wiped out their infrastructure and ability to project power, which they needed to achieve their plan of annexing the Middle East (they limply tried to claim parts of Oman yesterday but that didnt last very long). All achieved without any costly campaign or even ground invasion.
>>534551724>the highly effective Blockade will allow the Hormuz Strait to be OPEN TO ALL
>>534552824>Nothing about his first term indicated he would turn out to be like this.kill yourself
>>534551964I don't give a fuck about being loved by foreigners. In fact, if foreigners love us then our government is doing something wrong and I will vote to end it everytime.
>>534555224Even worse for Iran is UAE leaving OPEC and investing billions in completely new systems and delivery options. Not only does Iran lose its exports it also loses price control options. So even post conflict Iran is fucked. All they had to do was not shoot their neighbors kek
>>534551948How does speculative value pay for higher gas prices?
>>534555254This economic zone isn’t even loved by the people who live in it
>>534551724Trump had 8 weeks to run Epic Fury without needing approval from Congress. That time is expiring soon, and thats why the blockade and ship escort/guiding programs began, which do not need congress approval. However Trump can start ANOTHER operation, call it for example Epic Fury 2 Bugaloo, and again have the 8 weeks period without congress approval.What you however are not comprenending, is that it is IRAN which is threatening international transit through Hormuz, and it is IRAN which is attacking the neighboring Gulf states. That is NOT the USA doing that.Are you retarded, lefty or just too young to understand the actual context?
>>534555254Didnt founding father ssay you would be a shining city on a hill. It implies the mission of America was to be a beacon of light in the world... the idea that if people like you you're selling yourself out is so retarded. Did you ever hear about international trade or making cultural contributions that make people like you? If you are in a mutually happy bilaterial relationship with, le'ts say Iceland, does that make you a sucker. You must be a horrible husband if you think if your wife loves you it means she's taking advantage of you.
Euros sure do talk a lot of shit while their own nations are quite literally being conquered by barbaric foreigners they willfully allowed entry to simply because they’re brown/black. Not to mention all the advocacy for digital ID so their governments can jail dissidents.
>>534551724>AIPAC FuryLol, lmao even
>>534555406Be that as it may, foreigners are just worms in the dirt. Who gives a fuck if they love us? Do you? Do you care about that ridiculous silly nonsense?
>>534555451>their own nations are quite literally being conquered by barbaric foreigners they willfully allowed entry to simply because they’re brown/black. Not to mention all the advocacy for digital IDBut enough about America
>>534555445Shut up, shitskin. I didn't ask you.
>>534555388Through migger stockholm syndrome
>>534555528America isn’t loved by its own people and it’s hated by the world, so the question is, who is America actually working for? America used to not only be loved more by the world, it was loved by its own people. That’s what happens when you’re truly great. Everybody loves you. We don’t have that anymore, because we’ve lost our greatness.
>>534555445>You must be a horrible husband if you think if your wife loves you it means she's taking advantage of you.narcissistic personality disorder is rampant in this country, especially among boomers/gen xthe level of dysfunction in american families is absolutely unthinkable, because narcissists actually think like this
>>534555639Rubio said no such thing. Quoting a literal kike and a pajeet engagement farmer account is a pretty big giveaway into IRGC shills though.
>>534555445>Didnt founding father ssay you would be a shining city on a hill.No. Look it up, leftranny.
>>534555528>>534555574i used to think posts like this were just ragebait, but i now understand this is how some americans genuinely are
>>534552824Nothing?>Mentored by a kike>Born from a NYC kike couple>Best friends with a billionaire mossad-sneaky linky kike>Bailed out dozens of times by oligarchs>His first term was campaigning on useless idpol and turning the attention away from wealthy kikes>Never stopped bowing to Israel>His first wife was a kike>His children are either jews or mischlings>He married off his kids to jews>His grandchildren are tainted with jewish blood, will be married off to jews too>He first started his warmongering ambitions by pussy footing through bombing an empty airfield in Syria, then escalating from there without opposition>He destroyed the JCPOA, on bibi's request>He lured soleimani to Iraq for negotiations, like typical jewish tricks, stabbed him in the back>Operation warp speed with the contaminated vax>He's been talking about destroying Iran since the 80sI'd say he waved his intentions for 40 years and the miggercattle Just went along with it
>>534555790Give away the rest of what little you have to illegal immigrants and foreigners living in their own shitholes abroad, before you presume some moral superiority or consistency.
>>534555574damn, you could of just ignored him, didnt need to confirm that shit bootyblasted you
>>534554695There is nothing to see. Iran even issued apologies and already scaled back operations. The IRGC now also has to deal with internal factions considering their leaders all died.
>>534555767i looked it up>John Winthrop (1630): Puritan leader John Winthrop first used the phrase "city upon a hill," derived from Jesus’s Sermon on the Mount, to describe the Massachusetts Bay Colony. He meant for the new colony to be an example to the world, warning that if they failed to live according to their religious ideals, they would become a "story and a by-word through the world".
This is clearly a carrot-and-stick negotiation tactic. It's not even well disguised. But this seems like low-tier stuff, I don't think this sort of thing works on the level of international affairs. Like you'd use this to scam a contractor, not to lead a global diplomatic effort.
>>534555122>We wiped out their infrastructureNo, we blew up a bridge, and a school, and a few military sites. >their ability to project powerSeems to me they are projecting into the Strait well enough, they were never sending ship or planes to attack neighbors.And sure Hairsgeth is selling this as a $25 billion dollar "bargain" war, believe that and I have some bridges for sale to show you.When Congress demanded the Pentagon's accountants to tell them the costs, the guy just sweated and refused, REFUSED to provide an answer.
>>534555342>the highly EFFECTIVE BLOCKAGE>OPEN TO ALL, (including Iran)And you give me some LLM tier answer. Fucking disgrace.
>>534555887>their leaders all diedparliament speaker ghalibaf is also an irgc general and pretty obviously the most influential guy in iran right now
>>534555887>>534555716>>534555342>>534555122The chutzpah of this kike
>>534551724I see nothing wrong with that tweet
>>534551724>im gonna bomb iran if they dont agree to all my terms>this time for sure>i definitely will not post in a few days how i spoke with iran leadership and they were great and we're totally working everything out now only for nothing to actually happen>nope that wont happen
>>534555996>No, we blew up a bridge, and a school, and a few military sites.We took out a lot more than that. And the IRGC has no ability to replace infrastructure either, especially without US aid.>Seems to me they are projecting into the Strait well enoughHow? Losing relations with all their neighbors, breaking OPEC which they benefited from, and putting themselves into an existential crisis while the rest of the world moves on?>"bargain" warOf course its a bargain. We defeated BRICS, crushed Iranian annexation ambitions, broke OPEC, and now won continued support in the Gulf. And we barely lifted a finger. This was after both the collapse of Assad and Maduro.
>>534551724we did it miggerchads we beat Iran! Operation Epic Fury was an Epic Success!!
>>534556043You probably didnt even know about UAE leaving OPEC kek>>534556059Great they can enjoy competing warlords over a society that hates them, none of that is my problem.
>>534556163You are not a human being capable of reflection, differentiation, and comprehension. You are functionally a bot.
>>534556062>no argument>immediate kvetching
>>534556217Of course I know about UAE leaving OPEC. Do you even understand thats a negative for the US? Why am I asking, you are not capable of non-programmed answers.
>>534556241You dont have any argument.
>>534555986Not a founding father, see?
>>534556290Its absolutely not a negative for the US. OPEC was a competitor and the UAE also pledged new infrastructure deals with us. I cant think of a better outcome.
>>534555528
>>534551724Pump my bags orange boomer.
>>534551785How do you vote for this guy three times lol
>>534556163>We took out a lot more than that.That's right, how many military bases did we flee? Whoops I mean "strategically withdraw from".And we did more threats of infrastructure destruction than actual destruction, they aren't huddling in the dark. They threatened to do the same back to the Abraham Alliance and that put an end to that. If they were bombed to rubble Donnie wouldn't be threatening to bomb them to rubble at convenient stock market times.>Losing all their relations with their neighborsThey were never chummy with the Sunni, ever. They have the same relations with their traditional friends they ever did. It's Israel poisoning relations with the countries that could tolerate their shenanigans, even The Great Golem.>Existential CrisisYeah, good luck with that one, Bibi.
>>534551724>Assuming Clyde Cash agrees to give what has been agreed to, which is, perhaps, a big assumption, the already legendary Electric Fury will be at an end, and the highly effective Blockade will allow CWCVille to be OPEN TO ALL, including Clyde. If he doesnt agree, the bombing starts, and it will be, sadly, at a much higher level and intensity than it was before. Thank you for your attention to this matter! Mayor CHRISTIAN WESTON CHANDLER.
>>534551724The bombings will continue until freedom improves
>>534551724i wonder if zion don the hebrew con realizes this makes him look weak to anyone who isn't one of his sycophants
>>534555872I'm saying the average normie trump voter by the end of 2020 had no indication that he would turn into such a blatant Israel shill. Of course if you've been here for years and know exactly what to look for you can spot it, and already know that every US president is controlled by Israel. I'm saying there was nothing about his first term that would make his base believe he was such a blatant Israel shill, besides maybe the fact that he had a lot of jews in his cabinet, but the average normie wouldn't have picked up on that in 2016=2020. Reminder: It was the war in Gaza that started getting people to notice what a piece of shit Israel really is, the complete and total shilling of Israel by the GOP to really open peoples' eyes, and the war in Iran was the final straw that turned even a good portion of hid base against him. Nothing like that happened during his first term.
>>534551948does the stock market measure how working class white guys are doing? because i thought it was a measure of jewish billionaires.
>>534556558>That's right, how many military bases did we flee?We didn't flee any bases, in fact Iran hasn't even taken a single foot of ground since they started shooting their neighbors. They failed to even sink a single civilian ship despite dumping drones on them.>did more threats of infrastructure destruction than actual destructionYeah, obviously. It's a tactic to avoid more escalation by gradually increasing the amount of destruction we inflict. Chinese defense tech doesn't work and the IRGC know they are at our mercy. This is why they apologized to their neighbors and scaled back operations while we continue to present diplomatic options to them.>They were never chummy with the SunniPolitics isn't about actual friendship it's about deals. And Iran got baited into breaking all of them and led to UAE leaving OPEC which pretty much spells the end of OPEC as an oil exporting cartel if UAE can now just ignore their price regulations. And this swings the advantage to our favor because we can push high production and low cost oil, which UAE signaled is also their intention, which then forces OPEC to either adapt or lose sales.
>>534556672>Of course if you've been here for yearsI'm 56 yrs old. Don has been in the papers for pulling outright cheats and swindles for my entire life. His first instinct is always to rip you off, his second is to litigate you for daring to claim that he ripped you off.The moment he started weighing in on politics, it was always to spread pure bullshit into the conversation. Because that's his sole natural talent, the Art of the Bullshitting.You got bullshitted by someone who's been bullshitting his entire life, your one grace is that he's bullshitted much smarter than you.But halfway through his first term it was more than apparent that he was totally bullshitting you; voting for him 2 more times is unforgivable. Never vote again, it's not safe.
>>534556821>We didn't flee any basesI corrected myself, we strategically abandoned a bunch of them, just like the Strait.
>>534556944We didnt strategically abandon anything. We have a massive military presence in the Gulf which Iran can do nothing about. They can't hit our carrier, which effectively means they can't deal any significant damage. All Trump did was withdraw personnel from some areas which are still under US control because Iran can't seize territory. The moment Iran gives up its retarded idea to seize control of the entire Middle East we will just move them back.
>>534552251And Boomers too. Trump is a perfect example of how they think
>>534556821>Chinese defense tech doesn't workAgainst the wealthiest military in the world throwing half of their entire stockpile at you? Iran never had that much Chinese defense built up. We threw that much at them and merely achieved destruction of their obsolete AF that never bothered getting off the ground, and their bass boat navy.
>>534556884>I'm 56 yrs oldKill yourself, you dipshit boomer.
>>534556292My Argument is you are not engaging the contents of the posts you are responding to.>>534556336>OPEC was a competitorOPEC was a tool and conglomerate for Energy producers to fix and influence the market. You are an energy producer and the tool/conglomerate just became weaker.
>>534557039>They can't hit our carrierBecause it LEFT. They can't hit the ones in the Pacific either.https://newrepublic.com/post/208211/us-troops-abandon-military-bases-persian-gulf-kuwait-iran-strikes>Inb4 FAKE NEWS LAMESTREAM MEDIA!
>>534551724holy kek, he lost. I should have bought more.
>>534556336>>534557233NVM, i realized you think OPEC is some sort of transnational company. I am wasting my time here.
>>534555790I used to think your mother is a whore. I still think it.>>534555670This is irrelevant to what is being discussed. They are two totally separate and unrelated issues whether or not Americans love Americans and whether or not foreigners do. The katter does not matter at all, at any time and for any reason. The former is another issue totally unrelated to the latter.
>>534551724Trump is in power because the nepotism + fake money system. Biden was in power because of nepotism + fake money system. Democracy select people by PR+Networking. Any leader that will try to act not according to the plan is attacked by others to save the scheme, and in the he will behave.
>>534557086>Against the wealthiest military in the world throwing half of their entire stockpile at you?We are not throwing "half our stockpile" at Iran lmfao>We threw that much at them and merely achieved destruction of their obsolete AF that never bothered getting off the ground, and their bass boat navy.You need to getting your info from Indian Twitter accounts. We have destroyed a metric fuck ton Iranian military to the point the IRGC censored casualty reports, banned the internet, and instituted a huge crackdown against the Iranian people. You wanting to believe the opposite for reasons beyond my comprehension are not relevant.
>>534551724MAKE THE DEAL IRANNYS OR YOUR GETTING TOTALLY OBLITERATEDDONT THINK AMERICA CANT DO IT YOUR GETTING OFF LIGHT SO FARHOWD TACO GO FOR THE AYATOLLAH WAS THAT A GOOD TACO MMM TACOS
>>534557233>OPEC was a tool and conglomerate for Energy producers to fix and influence the market...no. its an oil cartel from several nations that compete with US oil exports. Our exports are from private companies.
>>534557514https://fortune.com/2026/04/24/us-military-depleted-half-most-expensive-missiles-cost-of-iran-war/
>>534557261It didn't leave at all. They still hit IRGC targets and the IRGC cannot respond in any meaningful way.
>>534557552OPEC has been around a lot longer than the US has been exporting oil. We only recently started exporting crude. We exported finished oil products.
>>534557589>may have>the U.S. has enough missiles to continue to fight in the Iran war without limitations>RosenbergNot a good look anon
>>534557668And now OPEC is fractured with the UAE leaving. All achieved because Iran can not control its own military.
>>534557552>its not a conglomerate of energy producers, its a cartel of oil statesfucking hell man
>>534557620The carrier didn't hit shit, the aircraft on board it flew in from a substantial distance out in the gulf.We had a couple of smaller ships do a dangerous run through the Strait this week, to distract them under fire and allow a vehicle transport to escape, ESCAPE the Strait.
>>534551843Tf is the difference between sundown and nightfall
>>534557709If the Detroit Lions left the NFL, it would be hyperbole to call it "fractured". And it was never in Trump's interest to break up OPEC. They are the source of billions of his bribe $.
>>534557765Do you really not know what OPEC is? You are fundamentally aware how oil works in Arabian states right?>>534557778Sinking deeper into meaningless lies. The carrier knocked out IRGC infrastructure unopposed, while the IRGC were too busy shooting fishing boats and hotels that belonged to their neighbors.
>>534557552>Our exports>private companies.>our>privatewhat a joke
>>534557905UAE leaving OPEC means UAE can just undercut OPEC, thus making OPEC non competitive unless it also drops prices and ups production.
>>534552050The truth is pretty much everyone in the world is retarded, America just puts them in charge for some reason
>>534551724Why do people like you keep posting these posts from some other website?I would never see them if it weren't for you retards amplifying them lolI'm calling you a retard because most here would probably read these posts from Trump and agree with him.Are you working for Trump or against him? I can't tell lol
>>534557961Oh damn we are really falling back to semantics now aren't we lel
>>534557956Explain the difference between>A conglomerate of Energy producersand>A Cartel of Oil states
>>534557956>hotels that belonged to their neighbors.Which the US military were hunkered down in, because the abandoned bases weren't safe anymore. LMAO.
>>534558030So you agree that any benefit, regardless of its magnitude, was to the owners of private companies in the US, and the detriment, regardless of its magnitude, was to everyone else on the planet?Please elaborate, anon.
>>534558033OPEC is a group of oil producing nations that work as a cartel to define oil prices and production limits. It's a shared investment. With UAE leaving they lose that collective power to enforce this because now UAE can just undercut them.
>>534558043According to Iranian government sources, but in reality all it did was piss off their neighbors and alienated them.
>>534558115The benefits are for the consumer. Because OPEC could control both the supply and the demand and set whatever price they wanted. Now they can't do that anymore unless they drop prices and up production.
>>534558000Anyone who produces can undercut OPEC. There's always been cheat within OPEC who would defy them and keep poomping while the Saud called for cuts. Russia can (and has) undercut OPEC, and they are a lot more meaningful than UAE.American frackers were disrupting oil price speculation until the Saud started flooding the market and caused a lot of them to default on their loans. Which is why the Permian and the Saud started meeting to establish quotas. You've probably memory-holed the Saud calling for American production cuts in the aftermath, and Trump agreeing to them, then further cutting because Mexico wouldn't cooperate.This whole "UAE left, OPEC is finished!" shit is wishful thinking. They weren't a Soviet satellite State.
>>534558134>OPEC is a group of oil producing nationsSo, a conglomerate of energy producers?>The benefits are for the consumer.Explain how rising profits of private companies are to the benefit of the consumer. I am very eager. >Control demandCurious on elaboration there too.
>>534558312>Anyone who produces can undercut OPEC.That's not true for OPEC countries. You're really trying to pretend that UAE leaving is inconsequential? The depths of cope you are willing to go are insane.>Russia can (and has) Russia can't and won't because they committed suicide as a Federation banging their head against a wall in Ukraine.
>>534558341>Explain how rising profits of private companies are to the benefit of the consumer.Oil was never a free commodity. OPEC could set high prices and trickle production. They can't do that anymore. Your opinion on companies earning money is not relevant. Communism was tried and failed terribly because it was unable to produce enough for its own people and also failed to be competitive for a long list of reasons.
>>534558247>The benefits are for the consumerImagine saying this with a straight face. We have spent the literal last fifty years since the oil crisis upping our own domestic production. We have the ability to just fucking produce more ourselves -- all of our oil companies are sitting on massive reserves which are too expensive to produce from until prices rise...Oh, but about that last part... guess who just announced that they're actually not going to increase production at all? Yup. And why would they? Their costs have stayed stable while the price of oil has doubled. My point here is that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY in which Americans are coming out ahead here...... unless they own oil companies or insider trade on Trump's endless vacillation insanity.
>>534558431>That's not true for OPEC countries.Horseshit, the Saud have had to deal with members not following the joint strategy on several occasions. They aren't chained to it, and each of them have their own national interests. It's a club, not a prison.>Muh UkraineHas nothing to do with nothing, beyond Ukrainians plinking their infrastructure.
>>534558545You are desperate to try and claim we won't benefit but that's not relevant. Now we will see high production and low cost exports, which the UAE is already moving towards in addition to investing a fuck tons of money in completely new infrastructure. Iran on the other hand lost the ability to even repair bridges.
>>534558564Great for the Saudis, but now they'll have to make OPEC more competitive if they want to play in the global market now.
stfu pedo nigger
>>534558639What the FUCK do I care about Iran, you fucking moron?>HURR DURR IRAN NO BRIDGEY CUZ BRIDGEY GO KABOOOOOOOOOOOM XDWE WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM THIS. We actively are doing the OPPOSITE of benefiting right now. To boot, who the actual FUCK do you think actually benefits from higher oil prices? O I L E X E C U T I V E S. Trump has fucking cut social programs and taxes on them, too. Not only do WE pay more for gas but the profits stay at the fucking top EVEN MORE now. I'm so fucking tired of you illiterate, jingoistic morons.
>>534559083>uh um d-did you know companies p-p-profit from sales???????
>>534559083>Not only do WE pay more for gas but the profits stay at the fucking top EVEN MORE now.Will obviously go down once a settlement is reached. And will likely go lower than they were before due to completely new competition.
>>534559225That's right, you fucking moron. You gormless fucking cretin. Do the fucking greentext, pretend you saved face, and FUCK OFF already.
>>534551785Not even the news is paying attention to his ranting anymore. Everyone knows that he's Israel's bitchboy
>>534559285You lost every argument and resorted to claiming that companies make money off sales as some kind of gotcha. In reality the US is setup for long term success as one of the last BRICS dominoes falls.
>>534551724He's got to be memeing at this point right?
>>534551724it's sane conversation you german faggothaven't read it
>>534552952Bu-but muh 4d chesserinno!Holy shit, it's true that all of you are retards.
>>534559477How, exactly, do Americans benefit from oil companies making more money? Go on then, I'll give you another chance to take a fucking stand in good faith.
>>534559083>>534559285>>534559821a private company not scaling production when demand is high is choosing short-term profit over long term growth and increased market share. why wouldn't the price fixing you're accusing them of have happened any time before? why didn't domestic oil just stop producing to bump the price up and make more money? the answer is it didn't because it makes zero sense, financially or even fucking mathematically. seething about le oil man as if his greedy profit schemes are a driving interest in the war and global oil trade, and wishful thinking that it would somehow disappear in a vacuum, is short-sighted first order thinking. supply went down because a big chunk of it was forcibly removed, and prices went up because we have a globalized market. it's seriously that simple, don't dress it up in your favorite boogeyman.back to opec, the essential goal of a cartel is artificial market distortion via collusion. there are laws against this in the west that opec is not beholden to yet even your favorite greedy oilmen are. breaking a literal cartel down is leveling the playing field and increasing competition no matter how you look at it, and those two things indisputably lower prices.
>>534551785so very true
>>534559821AMERICAN OIL COMPANIES HAVE STONKS WITH DIVIDENDS PURCHASABLE BY AMERICANS AND ARE OFTEN COMPONENTS OF AMERICAN 401KS AND SIMILAR THINGS LIKE AMERICAN PENSION FUNDS AMERICAN OIL COMPANIES ALSO PAY TAXES TO AMERICAAMERICAN OIL COMPANIES DOING WELL BENEFITS MANY AMERICANS AND REALLY BENEFITS EVERY AMERICAN
>>534561187How about the Americans who either don't have stocks or can't afford to invest because they're living paycheck to paycheck? How are their lives improved?>>534560601>why wouldn't the price fixing you're accusing them of have happened any time before?Because they couldn't get away with it. >why didn't domestic oil just stop producing to bump the price up and make more money?Because they couldn't get away with it. They're getting away with it right now, aren't they? I get that you have speculations on how the oil market will behave. I think they're over-extrapolated based on available evidence (one member leaving does not a cartel break) but I understand it. What would you say to Americans who, in this totally-fucking-avoidable interim period -- where many will lose their houses, their apartments, their healthcare, even their lives -- are going to have a really fucking hard time because these massively raised oil prices are coinciding with tax cuts on the rich, tariffs, and decreased access to social programs? And, for the record, I'm still not seeing you make a good argument for how Americans actually BENEFIT from any of this. Sure, the state might get some geopolitical breathing room (but probably not as much as you want) with OPEC. I'm just not seeing how Americans will come out ahead here. Maybe you can help me see the vision.
>>534558528Mazel Tov.Youll need it.
>>534551724As a master of chaos how can you not love Trump after all the B's the left did to him
>>534563285>How about the Americans who either don't have stocks or can't afford to invest because they're living paycheck to paycheck? How are their lives improved?according to right-wing ideology, those people (60-90% of the country, including a large majority of right-wingers) deserve to sufferthe whole point of the ideological system is to make as many people as possible suffer as much as possible
>>534551724Most Americans read at a 9th grade level, they need this.
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>>534563685>the whole point of the ideological system is to make as many people as possible suffer as much as possibleSure fucking feels like it, doesn't it?
>>534551785We really do. This country is full of subhuman obese fucks whove been isolated into their suburban fortresses doing nothing but getting indoctrinated by TV and scroooling. Sad state of affairs over here, Burgerpunk is real. Every vocal Trump supporter ive met is a sub 80IQ dysgenic retard.
>>534552824You werent paying attention if you think this. Like genuinely youve been duped since day 1. His COVID response and "election fraud" crashout were key indicators. And I hope youre not retarded enough to think the election fraud stuff was real at this point. Its all been planned to indoctrinate you since the beginning. We told you this and you refused to listen. Now suffer in the hell you've created for all of us.
>>534551724> Everyone who thinks this is sane communication to this point I consider worth to be put in the foreverbox for being too stupid for humanity. Iam serious this is pathetic clownmaxxing beyond any scale, Have some selfrespectWhat?
>>534551724Based and Commander-pilled.Seethe and gnash your teeth as you wail in impotent rage, TDSmaxxers, your losing will continue until your morality improves. Yes, morality, get a grip on yourselves.
>>534551927Their country has been like this for over 100 years.They have engineered dozens of wars, impoverished their "allies", spread niggers and Muslims across the white world, pushed abortion, faggotry and transgenderism everywhere and corrupted all of our political institutions.They are the antichrist.
>>534551724>>534551785The US is a shopping mall run by a PR department. Trump is a creature of that habitat, which happens to be a stagnant cesspool. Trump himself is more like Ronald McDonald than an actual person. The "rebrand" from "epic fury" thing to current "project freedom" thing is exactly the type of fake and gay bullshit that creatures here produce. Nothing changed in the real world. It's like if Pepsi kept the same recipe and started calling themselves, Niggerfluid, or something. In reality, what happened was that Trump ran into the limit of The War Powers Resolution of 1973, which gives him a 60 day limit to do his "overseas contingency operation" or whatever they're calling it, anything but "war". That's too simple and clear for the bullshit artists, who are currently "losing" the "war", regardless of what we call it. It's so bad for them that they are making the old "Trudeau" quote (when you kill your enemies they win), almost look valid. They've killed their enemies, yet they are losing. Anyhow, the mall is full of scammers peddling their wares who are being robbed by niggers and the PR department is full of insane jews, and all a normal person can do is HONK. But if you want some good news? Picrel.
>>534566344>election fraud crashout>2020 was a legitimate electionyou outed yourself leftypol nigger.
