Why is it set up this way?
>>534556942the state is there to farm you
>>534556942Because the people that set up the rules are the ones profiting from it.
>>534556942Judeo Boomer values. No economic system survives Jewish accountants
>>534556942That's what the standard deduction is for, retard.
>>534556942Because you didn't spend that 58,000 as a means to make that 60,000. Atleast where I live, money that you spend on your job is tax deductible.
>>534556942I'm sure the government will use that tax money for things that benefit the people paying them though!
>>534556942Because you gave them power to collect taxes in the first place.
>>534556942Taxes should be on revenue. It shouldn't be the government's job to micromanage accounting shit.Received 1mil into the account. Cool, pay up 50k;
>>534556942Spend that cash on the corporate expenses, make a corporation and buy through that corporation.
>>534557212>having a house, clothes, food, and decent spirits isn't helpful in your work
>>534556942Because no one can stop them.
>>534556942It's called communism
>>534556942Corporations are people.Goyim are property.Ask not what your owner can do for you, but what you can do for your owner, goy.
>>534557283>retarded brownoid hiding behind an ancap flag of all things doesn't understand he would completely eliminate low-margin businesses and crash the economyTypical
>>534556942The government allows you to generate that income in the first place so it's reasonable you pay it back
>>534557111underrated
>>534556942Whoever made this retarded shit has zero idea how taxes work and probably isn't even from a country that uses dollars despite using the dollar symbol.
>>534556942My favourite is them printing another £50bn to send to Ukraine, then after causing inflation, instead of cutting back a bit, they reduce the interest rates to help the borrowers, whilst everyone else who saved frugally or had a budget has their savings deleted.In this way they can eventually deplete all trust and create uncertainty in the economy until we're all thriving on loans, thievery and begging or bailouts.
>>534557402It's the cost of entry to the market. The government provide the framework in which to do business, and there has to be a cost for that.5% of revenue is fair. Would rather that money go to helping the market operate than funding the Visa/Mastercard jews.
>>534557025>the state is there to farm youbut corpos are exempt, curious
All the famous people here in Finland (public figures, politicians, athletes) pay minimal taxes according to their open tax informations. Like I pay 33% taxes but somehow some fucking millionaire pays less than 10% even though I earned a sweaty 80k€ and they earned fucking 2 million €. How is that possible I don't know, kikery probably. They use every loophole available because they are selfish sociopathic leech fucks.
>>534556942To avoid double taxation, idiot.Most corporate costs are wages>inb4 that diamond mine truck cost $$$ hundreds of millionsMost of that truck's cost also comes from wages. Raw materials that aren't influenced by wages are THE lowest-margin business in the world. If a steel mill makes 2% margin instead of 1.9%, that's the whole difference between it having the best year on the books and instantly goong under. For the rest of the world economy, everything eventually breaks down to wagie wages.Taxing the corps on profit only avoids double taxation and incentivizes automation WHICH IS A GOOD THING FOR (you).Of all the things to criticize - VAT cooking, tax havens, debt hacking by offloading all debt on one company in the group which you will let die in bankruptcy while "cleaning" the other companies, perpetual tax break loopholes - being against taxing profit only and being pro taxing robots (which the EU is proposing) is industrial suicide and benefits the anti-western kikes.
>>534556942That's not how our deductions and brackets work FUCKING POORFAGS.
all taxation is theftanything other than a flat tax is double theft
>>534557742Show flag, Rajesh
>>534558231ye?
>>534557177>That's what the standard deduction is for, retard./thread
>>534556942Start own company? Fuck you crying about? Just start a YouTube channel and you can deduct everything really. Morons.
>>534558125based
>>534558337Ah, so you're just a retarded Polack.
>>534556942It's set up that way for normies who aren't willing or capable of playing the game. If own a small business in the US, you shouldn't be paying taxeon the first 100k or so of earnings.
>>534557335/thread.
>>534558415Think of the insane amount of time and resources companies spend on fucking around with accounts.Take an industry, find out how much it pays in tax, calculate the average tax/revenue % and just cut out all the middleman bullshit.Accountants, tax departments, etc, are all a huge burden.I'd go one step further and ring-fence taxes more, too, so that all externalities are covered, and the industry is directly supported with out touching politicians.
>democrats >takes all your money and uses it to pay for transgender surgeries >republicans >takes all your money and gives it to jews
>>534557302Should have made a business and yourself an employee. Should have had the business own everything lmfao.Please look up employee housing hahaha fucking retard.
>>534558594You need accountants even if you're paying zero taxes. Please stop spouting retarded nonsense about things you have no understanding of, Pawel.
>>534558734As if democrats aren't also in favor of paying unlimited tribute to Greater Israel.
>>534558193>all taxation is theft>anything other than a flat tax is double theft>>534558016yuup
>>534557302>decent spiritsGo read what is tax deductible for businesses
>>534557897Based on public tax data released in Finland, it is inaccurate to say that all famous people, politicians, and athletes pay minimal taxes. In fact, high-income earners in Finland often face some of the highest tax rates in the world, with marginal tax rates exceeding 50% for top earners.However, the "open tax information" (known as julkisuusperiaate or tax transparency day) often reveals complex financial situations that explain why some wealthy individuals pay lower percentages than others.Here is a breakdown of the realities of Finnish taxation for top earners:1. High Earners Pay Substantial TaxesTop Taxpayers: The highest earners, such as gaming executives (Supercell) and entrepreneurs (Wolt founder Miki Kuusi), often pay tens of millions in taxes annually.Progressive Tax Structure: Finland uses a progressive tax system where higher income results in a higher tax percentage. A high-income earner making roughly €135,000 can pay nearly 48% of it back in taxes.Marginal Tax Rate: In 2026, the marginal tax rate reaches roughly 50% for those with high annual incomes.2. Why Some Pay Less Percentage-Wise (Tax Planning)While the top of the list often shows high tax payments, some wealthy individuals utilize legal structures to reduce their tax burden:Dividends and Capital Gains: Income from dividends can be taxed at lower rates compared to earned income.Holding According to 2022 data analysis, there are more millionaires in Finland than the official annual tax records show, because some dividend income is partly tax-exempt.3. "National Jealousy Day" In summary, high-income individuals in Finland generally contribute heavily to the tax system, but the structure of their income (earned vs. capital) and legal tax planning determines the exact amount.And charitable deductions.
>>534556942We live in a system of intergenerational servitude created by central banking. Our energy, effort, toil, "money" everything is lost to a game of jewish monopoly of which there is NO escape without revolution. Well, the window for revolution is rapidly shrinking due to surveillance state technology. If nothing radical changes for the better it might unironically be a few hundred years of the worst most unimaginable prison planet scenario possible.
>>534558858ThisWe're gonna see AIPAC donations get laundered through third parties with slightly anti-semetic names to make it look like the dems aren't taking jewish money in the 28 election. It will be exposed for everyone to see and the dems will live in ignorance and keep saying "at least we aren't taking jewish money" when they'll be taking in the most.
>>534557773You jest but for the anons who don't get the why or how of the game it goes thusly: The state can infinite print or issue digits that represent a score which determines who gets how much of what and when. This score is called currency. What the state can not do is print goods and services. It needs YOU the worker doing all that. The catch is they need to make sure you keep doing all that or their currency gets very worthless very quickly. They can have you gaining too much currency or you could start buying land, power, influence or whatever. Those corporations provide an easy way to keep you and other workers tied to the system. Without them, you and other workers might form your own corporations that could rival the ones they already have under control. This is why the get to write their expenses off and pay little to zero taxes while you pay a substantial percentage of your income to the government. But you know that, don't you. You are paid to not talk about the root power to issue currency.
>>534558999Literally anything and everything lol. Oh we're wining and dining clients, oh it's a development course in the Bahamas.
>>534556942Taxes are the invention of warlords.
>>534558795The size of the global accountancy market is about a trillion dollars. Most of it is a waste and creates huuuuuge amounts of friction.It's perfectly possible for banks to digitise everything in the modern world. If visa and mastercard can skim percentage points, why doesn't the government just do the same and us all the hassle?Fucking sick of dealing with government bullshit. The portals are all retarded and take way too much time. Sick of spending money on a fucking accountant, too. It feels like a mafia.
>>534556942It's all based on the "what are you gonna do about it bitch" principle.Corps will bribe, pull business, move. What are you gonna do about it?
>>534556942it's not, that's why theres deductions. lol i even get to deduct my living expenses since muh agorophbia dictates i live in specific settings. git good @ deductions or git broke, your choice
>>534560269EXTREMELY thrid world coded post.
>>534560113It's probably just resources needed to sustain men during warfare. If you're in the bush with a rock on a stick fighting for your life you're not going to be too worried about obongo's bean paste supply in his grotto. Temples were bean paste depositories and then became banks
>>534558231>SHOW FLAG>>534558415>oh that's not a brown flag>w-wellEmbarrassing.
Because the corporation already paid sales tax on the products they purchased plus all their employees pay individual income tax.What you're suggesting is a double tax and I think that's unreasonable.Of course they shouldn't operate like Ikea by hiding the money behind a charity, but they can't give everything away to the government because that would be communism.
>>534559157Are you saying the kikes have already programmed LLM's to think it's like that? Jesus.
>>534560381I mean they were posting retarded nonsense and they were clearly not a native English speaker, it was a decent assumption.
>>534556942Corpo tyranny
>take standard deduction every time>get money back from the governmentFeels nice to have $1200 deposited into my bank account after doing taxes.
>>534556942This bread really shows how business illiterate /pol/ is… Of course it’s barely 1pm on a Wednesday afternoon so why would I think anyone on here right now has any business acumen or experience.
>>534556942Test
>>534560512I am a native English speaker, though, lol. Funny that all you've contributed to this thread is buzzword shit like>muh fleg>muh retards>muh poolleezzzGovernments around the world already implement taxes directly on revenue. I'd like to see it expanded to everything so the corpojews can't move their profits around and avoid chipping in.If supermarkets pay roughly 1% of their revenue in tax already, why not just cut out all the middlemen? The world is addicted to the legal, accounting and hr professoins, and it's fucking suffocating.
>>534560512And you were wrong. Take the L like a man.
>>534560636Cuck post. You must be an agent placed here.
>>534556942you're a dumb nigger and you've never once filed taxes in your life
>>534557111>Judeo Boomer valuesLook at the jew trying to deflect away responsibility.
>>534556942It basically a bunch of homosexuals, that get in a board room; and decide on the gay agenda, and it effects our soceity.
>>534556942Corpos own the government. It's that simple. You're goycattle.>>534557212>shelter, food and transportation aren't necessary for working
>>534560874The UK digital services tax is a good example. >Introduced in 2020, the Digital Services Tax (DST) is a 2% tax on the revenues of multinational tech companies providing UK users with specific ‘digital services’ including search engines, social media services and online marketplaces, with revenues over £25 million in the UK or £500 million globally.Absolutely love the idea. If jewmericans want to spread their shit, they should have to pay their way. Why the fuck should taxpayers have to fund teams of accoutants to look through all their books? Just tax at fucking source and close down their jewish tricks from the offset.
>>534556942goyim dealing with the real world while they let jews deal with the central banking for millennia
>>534560417no im sayin llm are smarter than npcs like u
>>534556942Company took a $3.5B loan that rose to 3.9 because of interests, used the money on company expenses (tax deductible) and "produced" $4B instead of earning it or being paid, this plus lawyers and accountants being well versed in the jewish language the government uses, it ends up with your true profit being merely 100 million.You too can spend years learning all the judaism in US law and create your own LLC which does "consulting" with you as the only employee. This is very time consuming and if you mess it up they will rape you for tax fraud (this happens very often to small businesses with lazy owners)
>>534556942wages are not income, but by definition a exchange at fair market value for valuable time/service for money.Only if you are an owned SLAVE can wages be "income".
>>534561450Fucking sickening how professionals who want to run a business have to deal with reams and reams of retardation, and can't just focus on what they do best. >open business account>select industry>bank takes x% on all incoming transactionsIt could really be so simple. Based cash users shouldn't have to fuck with tax, either, as a reward for presumably supporting local businesses.
>>534557302If you own a business you can use meals as a business expense.
>>534556942>>534557302>>534561450>>534561638>>534560543Capitalism.
>>534561450Man you’re fucking retarded….. What is revenue, what is expenses and what is profit? Most basic bitch understanding of business.
>>534557500lol no. and why would any person with this flag say something like that.
>>534557742not how the law works. there are two types of taxes, a direct tax and an indirect tax. if something is a direct tax is has to be apportioned (meaning set the same for everyone). income tax having tiers is not so thus its an indirect tax.indirect taxes are essentially excise taxes, but excise taxes can only be put on privileges. the legal definition of a privilege here is a government granted privilege and you exercising it. (ex: you buying/consuming alcohol, cigarettes, etc).you working any job is constitutionally protected as a right, not a privilege as an American citizen. "Access to the market" would be someone who is NOT a us citizen that is participating in the labor/investment market which is a privilege granted by the government (like a H1B visa).the government cannot take away your citizenship and thus your right to work as one is not a legal privilege that can be taxed on.income tax is fake and gay and the wording does not apply to US citizens working most day to day jobs outside of federal government.
flat tax on all profits and no deductions and no ngos, sent all lawyers to build bridges instead of loopholes
W2 money sucks but you have to achieve tons of it to end up with wealthThat said, one did theoretically take the huge hit when earning it the first time so you could think of it as the rich person getting taxed a second time on the same money. NFL player 49.3% taxes:https://x.com/darrenrovell/status/1720398808209596743/photo/1
>>534556942>...
>>534556942Because you deserve it.
>>534556942Why do you retards who have no children always put dependents on your w4 forms? I always put zero and get money back on my tax returns.
>>534556942BECASE YOU DESERVE IT!YOU PERSONALLY, DESERVE IT!And never forget this untill the day you close your eyes forever.
>>534557283Income taxes should be 0, for both people and companies.Comsumption taxes should be higher to compensate.
>>534561313Kike.
>>534556942because in theory the corp has spend money on some kind of product to which VAT applies. You want more products more investment less profits going to shareholders. But nowadays the scheme is either stock buyback or retarded circular financing stuff where nothing gets made see Metaverse.
>>534557212>being alive doesnt cost money goyfucking retard alert
>>534557500>The government allows you to generate that income in the first place so it's reasonable you pay it backHow generous of the government.They should tax us for breathing next as they kindly let us do that.
>>534557500I revoke my consent to be governed by financially irresponsible perverts.Turn the government off and make a new one, we can use the old documents as a starting point.
>>534564313Cash transacitons shouldn't be taxed. People should be free to live their life without interference if they so desire.Huge corporations, however, need to be taxed, and via digital payments is the best place to do it. If you're revenuing over 10mil, you're not operating as a person any more. >>534562860Consumption taxes should definitely pay the negative externalities of goods. It's not fair that society has to pick up the pieces of irresponsible companies.
>>534557897Your 33% of nothing is less than their 10% of something.
>>534557302>>534561158>>534564251You're all fucking retards. A company has to buy a item to then create what they sell from that item. If the initial item costs $5 and they sell it for $7 there's only $2 of profit there. You retards saying>muh food>muh houseWhere is your resell? What profit did you make off eating? Do people buy your shit? >inb4 muh jobYour job requires you to exist in a certain place and do certain actions. If those actions require you to spend money, that is written off. Stop argueing with emotions and try to think things through.
>>534556942>Why is it set up this way?because you keep voting for rightoids instead of the working class
>>534564627kys golem
>>534556942>WhyJews.
>>534564627In all fairness, Americans convert their food, house, etc into being available to get drafted to die for Israel when the time comes.
>>534556942I do agree that's a problem but I'd bet every cent I have our solutions are different.
>>534561808Recently I have realised I hate capitalists just as much as I hate communists.Communists want to tax the life out of everyoneCapitalists want to tax the life out of everyone except the super rich
>>534556942>Why is it set up this way?Because all the men with balls died during WW1, and the juden in charge know it.
>>534556942It's not set up that way.You have a standard deduction of around $1,000 + per month, I think it's $14,000 for the year now.For normal people, this means your rent is paid with tax free money from your income.
>>534556942Jews
>>534564572Kike.
Tax Goyim.That's the answer. Why hasn't there been a revolution (again) over this.Right wingers have all these damn guns, always talking about tyranny. And they never do anything in Minecraft.
>>534557302Are you self employed? Because then you can deduct all of that.
>>534556942>Why is it set up this way?Because a good bit of the $3.9B is spent on politicians.
>>534558773>employee housingIs taxable income.
>>534557226Individuals do not have that authority, and, so, they cannot grant that power to governments they create.You're just describing a criminal gang robbing people.
>>534556942I started watching Sopranos this month and I'm seeing Sopranos memes everywhere. Has it always been like this?
>>534567255Yeah.
>Earn $60k from selling $60k of life/labor.>Profit/income: zeroThere's nothing left to tax. It doesn't matter whether you spend $58k on survivial or FunkoPops.
>>534567255Probably one of the most influential show on 4chan is Sopranos.
>>534557177thisthe issue is that standard deduction is adjusted based on core CPI which doesn't fully account for the massive inflation in basic necessities such as shelter and food. It downplays real cost of living by not accounting for the capital portion of asset inflation, and by lumping basic necessities with all the cheap made in China trinkets which have been getting cheaper, which brings down the CPI average. They also use year over year metrics to minimize the long term impact of inflation. The result is a standard deduction which is completely disconnected from the actual cost of living.
>>534567255its AI designing your internet experience based on your preferences
>>534556942Is this a Fendi ad? On 4chan?
>>534567255
>>534556942America is a corporate entity. You can go down this rabbit hole or you can forever pay taxes
>>534565180Everything people call capitalism is just a shitty badly manged welfare state than only priorities niggers at the bottom and corporations at the top. All paid for by people in the middle.
>>534557177That’s only half an answer, the standard deduction should be WAY higher
>>534556942It’s time for corporations to pay more in taxes and end this nonsense of siding with them.
>>534568160Oh and this is maintained by convincing half the people in the middle that if we just give niggers more, that eventually the gov will get around to giving THEM more if only the other people in the middle that want not to pay niggers weren't in the way.
>>534557025not the state, corpos after getting monopolies use state to force you to buy services. If private companies exist, private individuals always get fucked.
>>534568118What do you think this actually means you worthless brown
>>534557773>he believes there is a separation between the corpos and the stateKek has denied you quads for your ignorance.
The state owns the land. The state is free to charge whoever it wants whatever they want for the privilege of living on the land. Whining about it not being fair is retarded when the state has the generosity to let you have any say at all.
>>534557108Corporations are doing tax based on Islamic shariah model. In Islam tax is only applied to your savings not on your income.While goyim are taxed based on Torah model. Goyims income is taxed by Jewish kingdom. It doesn't care whether said income is sufficient for goyims rent, food, bills, etc. First pay the chosen tribe then you can use the money for your survival needs. Thats how much jews hate the goyim
>>534556942Jewsews
>>534558734They're both the same picture.
>>534556942It's even worse than that, since corporations are only allowed to make business purchases the government is effectively inflating the price of all business purchases which includes healthcare, food and housing.
>>534556942>Why is it set up this way?Because rich control the world.
>>534556942to be fair, those expense deductions are in the service of generating the revenue, which is not really the case for a household budget. And then corporate earnings are of coursed taxed twice in most cases
>>534556942-You get taxed on the money you earned (income tax, which is supposedly by the employer entirely not you)-You get taxed on the money spent (HST/GST)-You taxed on the money saved (Property taxes etc)The rest will be spent on an over inflated speculated prices for piece of cardboard for 30 years, and maybe some goyslop..That's your enemy, not whatever race war or culture war or muh immigrants or muh whatever, if you don't solve the jewsish games like taxes or interests, your life will keep getting worse, that's by design, they get richer on your expenses
>>534556942we are slaves for the "Elite", corporations and the Government, nothing less and nothing more, i keep hearing people(especially boomers) who tell the young ones bullshit like>kids today don't want work, work is good for you and if you work hard enough you can do anythingThe only escape from this Hell World is Death
>>534569403>It's even worse than that,It's even worse than that with shell companies.Where corporations can claim profit in places with low taxes and next to no profits anywhere else.
>>534560345lol sure thing jamboy. skillful deduction from taxes is a white activity, something you will never understand I know, but that's just how it is
>>534569559i pay 0 in property taxes because my agricultural production offsets all tax liability to 0.
>>534557773Corpos are a branch of government in an oligarchy
>>534569757There was a 100% deduction for onsite cafeterias it went to 50% in 2018 then 0% in 2026In 2018 they stopped making arcades and other entertainment deductible. How can an LLC compete with that? And we wonder why all the small software shops disappeared.
>>534569548How is keeping yourself alive not in service of generating revenue? If I have a machine that needs oil and storage while not in use I can write both off as a tax deductable. Those deductions should apply to me.
republicans and jews
>>534569585start a farm. you won't be a slave for anyone as long as you use heirloom seeds and not that gmo shit from monsanto. for fertilizer use manure and a spreader, and for pest control neem oil and chitosan based nematocides which are damn near free since mushroom farms will pay you to haul off as many yards of spent mushroom substrate as you want.
>>534569585You have to die without having had sex with the opposite sex. Even if it didnt result in pregnancy it creates the possibility
>>534556942And you'll get a data center whether you like it or not too.
>>534556942theres a difference between profit and income. thats why.and yes, its bullshit. profit should be taxed. property should be taxed. income shouldnt.
>>534556942to incentivice the company top reinvest and since our economy is measured by how much money is flowing from a to b and vice versa, this is good for the so called economy
>>534570054for spent mushroom substrate toss it in a ribbon mixer to break it apart to uniform small pieces then load it in a manure spreader. once on the field till it under w/all the chaff left over and 70% of all pest issues are solved. plus you get to charge 20-40% premium since muh organically grown
>>534558345>>534557177Name 10 people in real life who know what "standard deduction" is and where they might bump into that, you can't blame someone for not being a nerd studying Jewish rituals when he doesn't even have the circumstances to become aware of the game existing.
>>534570202everyone with a net value over 6 digits knows what a standard deduction is lol, just because your poor and have never had to pay taxes doesn't mean people are ignorant of it's existance
>>534557177The deduction that you don't have to pay taxes on is around $15k. Surviving costs a lot more than $15k/year. Perhaps in some areas more than others but I'm pretty sure there's no state where $15k/year is a livable wage.
>>534556942Your own fault for only having two political parties in the u.s. just vote for the party that wants to change this.
>>534570937Technically there are more than 2 parties, but the reason only 2 parties usually only win is because people are scared of party X winning so they vote for the other most popular party. We really do need ranked choice voting because without it 3rd parties really aren't able to exist. At least that's how it is in America with there only being 2 parties that can effectively exist.
Because companies don't even have that much money, when they make big purchases like buying a new IP or datacenter they just make a fictional check made up of fictional money. They exchange each others debt like currency then have taxpayers subsidize the cost. Viscous system.
>>534561074>boomers aren't responsible for accepting a bribe to look the other way while the future got destroyed
I think it's immoral to pay taxes if you know your tax money is going to a cabal of child raping cannibals. It's almost like a form of consent. You pay your taxes and all of the money goes to the Epstein class and they kidnap children, and they rape them and they eat them, and your tax money pays for it. So are you really OK with that? Is your conscience OK with paying traitors to rape and eat white children? I don't think it's OK. I think it's immoral and evil to give anything to cannibal pedophiles except an execution.
>>534570202If you file your taxes they literally ask you if you'd like to itemize your deductions or take the standard. This is common knowledge, not some esoteric arcane wisdom. The tax system is kiked out of it's mind, but let's not make up reasons to hate it.
>>534570202Anyone who has filed their taxes.If you are paying for some company to do it for you when you are just a basic-bitch wagie who rents an apartment, you are nigger-tier retarded. Anyone with an elementary-level education can do it.I can understand if you are self-employed, own a business, have lots of expenses for your job, etc, but for the majority of wage-slaves, just do it yourself.
>>534556942helloyeah, its jewsevery time
>>534572055Ah thanks didn’t know Ok bye
>>534557773Somehow multinational corporations very readily behave in accordance to national means. Boeing will always be crticial for USA interests, like Siemens will be for German or L'Oreal for France.
>>534556942Imagine if people could deduct rent from their taxes. That might be the only way to get our government to lower housing prices instead of working to keep them up. Why have I never seen this mentioned before anywhere?
>>534556942so the trick is to incorporate yourself and when you get employment you get hired under your LLC and not your FIRST NAME, LAST NAME. then write everything off as corporate expenses
