are westernes ok with their money paying to keep this going for few more years?
Russia has the right to defend itself.
Also, you have to understand that basically every western man under the age of 40 played call of duty growing up. We all think explosions and gunfights are cool. We think it’s neat when they happen in places far away from where we live.
>>534597130As long as russia is ok with sending people to die, yes.Looking forward to the next parade
>>534597130Fuck yeah, I donate 100 euro every month to blue and yellow, wonder how many zigger roaches I helped to kill.
>>534597507None.You did pay for a couple of hours for a Ukrainian general's holiday though.
>>534597555As long as the drone kino videos of Russians dying comically doesn't end soon.
>>534597130That's obviously AI, look at that nonsense AI vehicle. It's just a coffin on wheels, it's like that episode of rick and morty where they're in an AI simulation and the bread people drive toasters for cars.
>>534597640Just be aware that that's all you're getting, Russia's going to get what it wants and Ukranians are going to be replaced by niggers and jeets for your pleasure.
>>534597130I send extra to Ukraine to watch them kill more of you scum. I'm looking forward to Saturday especially. The drone massacre at your gay parade is going to be kino of the highest order.
>>534597736Ukraine isn't going to take you Ranjeet. You're an abo now.
>>534597806Ukraine doesn't have a choice in the matter, jews are going to bring them in because they need workers after they shoved all their men into the meat grinder.Pure cohencidence to be sure.
>>534597130But its you niggers who keep it going
>>534597432I never played Call of Duty. I watched it on YouTube and found it boring
>>534597724grob drone
>>534597507OP post video shows UA army being dronned
>>534597724Unmanned evac vehicles. Those are pretty common
>>534597895Russia's also bringing in millions of jeets.
>>5345981411 million jeets with 70 million Russian men vs 1 million jeets with 10,000 Ukrainian men.I don't know why you're trying to pretend it's even remotely similar.
>>534597130After Dugin's tweets. Yes, yes i am
>>534598068>>534598134I bet a NAFO tranny came up with it, saw the rick and morty episode and thought it would be wholesome chungus for them to drive around in coffin cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzh0zAPF0LA
>>534598217>jeets are good when russia does it
It always amuses me that retards actually believe humans are made in the image of God. I'd say God is a tiger, or a shark, or an eagle. Humans are just retarded apes, morphed shrews that scurry around finding hilarious ways to fuck each other and fuck each other up. Humans evolved from these things-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuarchontaYou're just prey.
>>534597895Take your poo meds pajeet.
>>534598348>>534598403I can see that this makes you seethe but a brown Ukraine is something you're going to have to live with because jews are in full control of the country and the deaths of Ukrainian men did nothing but assist that.
>>534598501Your nigger loving will be the end of you pajeet. Just go back to India and stop pretending anyone cares about your 80iq opinion.
>>534598501No one's seething. We're just mocking your endless cope and shill talking points.Tell us, are you a diaspora Russian or a brown immigrant in Australia?
>>534597130There are worse investments than killing russians. We spend pocket change while you live and die in poverty.
>>534597130>died trying to save a wonded comradeRussians would never do this.
>>534598678We don't even spend that anymore. The last $90bn sent to Ukraine to kill Russians came from, Russians Which is nice.
Is it me or is the desperation of Russian shills getting exceptionally high these days? Whether Ukraine is justified in defending itself or not should be unrelated to the fact that Russia has wasted more manpower than at any point between the second world war and now. And they call this shit a special military operation, not a war.>failed state>failed warIf we're going to point and laugh a the senile orange retard and his Iran SMO, then the Russia are playing in the same league to say the least. >Also: be less obvious, you retarded alcoholic shillsLately, you are behaving worse than kikes. I didn't care about Ukraine/Russia but your shilling is making me hate you in a special kind of way.
>>534599039Even those who were sympathetic to the Russian position at the start of the war have started to question the point of it and are wary of Russia's shifting justifications. At the end of the day they're waging a brutal, grueling war on their own brother nation, and a fellow European people, and there needs to be a solid reason to do that.They also tried to appeal to the radical right and the radical left at the same time. That's how you get Dugin calling the white race evil and worthy of annhiliation, and then some other Russian shill will come in and try to appeal to the right by talking about Israel and how Ukraine is controlled by Jews.It all comes off as schizophrenic and disingenuous and Russia has largely lost the aura of being truth tellers vis a vi western media.
>>534597291Russia isn't defending anything, not even themselves
>>534599039Yeah they're getting desperate because things keep not going their way, TThe orange Retard was supposed to have won the war for Putin by turning the US against Ukraine, best he could do was remove the US from having any part in controlling UkraineRussia still cannot accept that they're fighting Ukraine, not NATO super soldiers, not the CIA, not a bunch of Boris Johsnon clones, they're losing to Ukraine
>>534599039>I didn't care about Ukraine/Russia but your shilling is making me hate you in a special kind of way.This.
>>534599451>At the end of the day they're waging a brutal, grueling war on their own brother nation, and a fellow European peopleRussians aren't Europeans, they're asian thirdies from the global south.>They also tried to appeal to the radical right and the radical left at the same time. That's how you get Dugin calling the white race evil and worthy of annhiliation, and then some other Russian shill will come in and try to appeal to the right by talking about Israel and how Ukraine is controlled by Jews.To them, jews are white and therefore evil.
>>534599451>It all comes off as schizophrenic and disingenuousand also forced. Both kikes and Russians have reached the shill-threshold, where more inauthentic messaging leads to overexposure rather than successfully manipulating public opinion.>largely lost the aura of being truth tellersThey only had this with a portion of gullible and uninformed people, which is still a big chunk. Large enough to be nudged and be self-sustaining. On the other hand, blind approval of Ukraine is ridiculous too; not even Ukrainians trusts the Ukrainian government to handle corruption cases without independent body overlooking it. Hence the protests and overturning laws curtailing anti-corruption. If they wouldn't have caved to protest, I'm sure Ukraine would've been done at that time... Morale is fragile when sacrifices are high.>Dugin calling the white race evil and worthy of annhiliationHe's a fringe philosopher and only taken seriously by members of fringe groups. Whether he's alienating the anti-west left or the anti-west right, it's not like it's making a huge difference.>brother nationNot sure if this has any meaning anymore. Georgia is supposed to be a brother nation but I have yet to meet a single Georgian person (in Europe) who isn't an avid Russia hater. Understandable, if you know of 2008's war. People argued Europe put the cart in front of the horse, i.e. find common ground and cooperation with a Russian neighbour without clearing geopolitical assurances and estimating risk. >>534599975Looking at the huge border and areas that lack air defense systems, I'm surprised Putin hasn't at least attempted to find an off-ramp. The whole reason refineries and depots are being hit is because it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to avoid the volume of drones penetrating such a vast border.---Russia/Ukraine isn't super complicated. It depends on what narratives you want to entertain. Maidan / Crimea / Luhansk/Donetsk / "SMO"... All of it took place on what was once considered Ukraine.
>>534597130>are westernes okA ok
>>534597130Why did those nafo troons try to put him into coffin on wheels, he was still aliveI see he was resisting it and fighting for own life until the end, brave ukrainian.
>>534600312This entire war is about as stupid as the Iran war and both were caused by the same reason, the idiotic mistake of "If I hit them hard enough they'll collapse on their own and I can pick up the pieces myself."
Yup. If we don't you will invade some other European country next and we can't have that. Also in Finland we have a joblessness problem and all the new Ukrainian drone factories will help alleviate that.https://unn.ua/en/news/finlands-summa-defence-and-ukraines-taf-industries-to-establish-joint-drone-production
>>534600563I mean it's a good deal, you get jobs and you make things that kill Russians. Is it really a job if you're doing something you enjoy?
>>534600312Just to clarify my previous thoughts on Ukraine and Georgia...>brother nations>spheres of influenceThe narrative goes: If EU did not seek economic cooperation or trade relations or a pathway to it, Russia wouldn't have felt threatened. Sounds like the nation equivalent of spousal abuse to me, lmao.>Mad husband Russia will give submissive wife Georgia a beating if Georgia even LOOKS at another nation, let alone speak to themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exJ024Zdzdk&list=PLcfqP0PtWDcGKIHGTTbVlpTyUZNL8gjnHI recommend this. You can tell it has some bias towards Ukraine and I really appreciate the high quality commentary.>>534600550If you look at the first weeks of the war, things might've gone different. Without nlaw and javelin deliveries, they might've held on to Hostomel. Maybe not but we really don't know.(I actually know a lot about the war, I lied. But I try to stay as neutral as possible.)
>>534597130Yeah. Are you?
>>534597130so long as it's europe's money being spent and not ours, they can keep that circus going for as long as they need.
yes I don't think I've ever even seen fervor for one of our own wars as for us towards Ukraine, sorry.
>>534600550>is about as stupid as the Iran warIt's worse. The Russians aren't the Soviets. They can't replace the vast amounts of equipment lost to even a small degree.This isn't a lolloll twwo more weeks until russia collapses post, this is reality. They cannot replace even a fraction of the military legacy they inherited from the USSR. They have one tank 'factory' and one or two functional refurbishment facilities, but even the working factory can only produce a tiny amount of new hulls.
>on my previous assertion about Hostomel>LLM seems to disagree>"A useful comparison military analysts often make is to Operation Market Garden: an airborne force captured its objective initially, but relief forces failed to arrive fast enough.">"Russia was close enough that the battle genuinely mattered.">"NLAWs/Javelins contributed meaningfully to stopping the Russian advance.">"But Hostomel failed because of a broader collapse of the entire Russian operational plan, not because of one weapons system alone."After the retreat from Kyiv/Kiev and the north, I guess the following off-ramp that would've made sense was before Ukraine did counter-offensives on Kharkiv and Kherson. The cost of war vs territory gained was still a good deal for Putin.
>>534597130If I had the opportunity to effect policy I'd support voluntary donations from people who wish to do that instead of just taking money from everyone, unfortunately there is no way to do anything about it. It does not matter to government what you are or aren't ok with
>are westernes ok with their money paying to keep this going for few more years?Dude they are ok with their money paying africans that don't work, only breed, steal and rape his daughters. Do you really think they care about what happens to some russian 10.000 km away?
>>534600993Even USSR economy couldn't handle constant arms race.
>>534597130Are these ukranians or Russians?
>>534597640upvoted angry sister
>>534597130Russians paid money for that murder. And it won't be forgotten.
>>534597507thank you for the gold stranger(you literally financed this)
>>534601267>taking pictures of man assRussian drone pilots
>>534597130I'm saying this as a moderate. I just want to see Russians croak. Around 35000 Russians shot, burned, maimed, and dismembered, monthly, this year? This is peak. I don't give a fuck about Ukrainians. Seeing Russians suffer is my joy though.
>>534601067Isn't Finland a country with high standards of living because they redistribute wealth more efficiently than United States and similar systems?>great healthcare>great education>thriving tech and other industriesYou can still donate to charities and get tax deductions... Nothing is stopping you from doing so.>>534601205But they had decent innovation and industries at least. Russia is a shell of its former self.>>534601304damn, this is some sneaky shit lol
>>534601249russiansthat makes it wholesome and epic doesnt it
>>534601205True. They probably did have a window to leverage their industrial base for a China-like economic reform at the end of Krushchev's premiership, but Brezhnev was probably the worst person possible to take over. After that it was fucked.
>>534597130Dead Slavs?Heck yeah!
>>534598785That is not true, idiot, the EU took in more debt.
>>534597130Bro, it's still worth it, don't worry :)
>few more yearsRussia is going to surrender before the year is over. How is that victory parade on Saturday coming along?
>>534601398I'd prefer that taxes were used to do stuff here not in other countries desu
>>534597640Yeah, war has never been this funny.What a time to be alive (or dead if you're a Slav).
>>534601514They did a weird Jewish trick where they "borrowed" from the Russian oligarchs who have their assets frozen in the EU.Ultimately it's Russian money but nobody wants to take responsibility for outright stealing it.
>>534597895>is very concerned with the hypothetical reality of jews taking over ukraine and creating a meat grinder while >being perfectly comfortable with jewish billionaires sending russian men into the meat grinder.
>>534601668they didn't borrow, they didn't even issue anything.They basically just transferred money, 2/3 of it goes to european MIC
>ITThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkE7Ju0cK5Y
>>534601053>The cost of war vs territory gained was still a good deal for Putin.On what fucking planet?
>>534600684Javelins and NLAWs wouldn't have mattered much for the airborne landing, best both of them did was attrition some of the Russian ground supply lines approaching Kyiv.Russia still had no realistic means of taking the city with their forces spread out in three directions with little ability to support one another directly
>>534601514Which will be paid back from frozen russian assets after they capitulate. Plus tip. I think before eoy.
>>534601749>being perfectly comfortable with jewish billionaires sending russian men into the meat grinder.Nafo copeRussian population is 152 mln people with new territories, ukrainian is reduced to 26mln and tfr is reduced to 0.85Russian loses are around 150k, ukrainian are around 1,6 mln dead - population impact is more than 50 times higherAs a result of war russia gets new lebenstraum, ukrainian elite can steal money borrowed from europoor peasantsDifference is quite large
>>534598134Wouldn't that technically be an ambulance? Isn't it a war crime to attack those?
>>534598785Sorry sweaty, you get the honors of footing that bill
>>534598785either unreal stupid or shill
>>534601578Most of it does.>municipal >regional >provincial/state >national >supranational (EU/NATO/UN)Separate of that, you have foreign aid but it's not a whole lot. The part that goes to Ukraine is unfortunate but I guess all wars are. If you want to prevent wars from being funded, you can look at all the anti-Israel protests and the potential funds it has stopped because it's incredibly unpopular in Europe. Although that is very indirect and doesn't work 100%.>>534601814>pic>"The closest thing to a primary source for that figure is a public statement by Volodymyr Zelenskyy on 2 June 2022, where he said Russia occupied about 125,000 km2 of Ukraine — “about 20%” of the country."Now you tell me whether the price was steep for Putin if he stopped at that time. Sounds like a good deal to him...>>534601845Yeah, hence I shared the LLM answer. I formulate my own thoughts first and then I look how far it's apart from whatever the AI says. I still believe the battle was crucial, but I guess I have to change my mind on the success of a potential siege or whatever on Kyiv/Kiev.
>>534597130Unfortunately no. The Western way of war is doctrinally firmly rooted in long-range kill chains, which is about finding a target to take out (often far in advance of the operation) and then precisely killing it from far away. Or stopping Russian/Chinese hypersonic missiles. But quadcopters? Nope. The Pentagon has ONLY RECENTLY recognized small drones as 'consumable commodities' like bullets and grenades.
>>534599039>I didn't care about Ukraine/Russia but your shilling is making me hate you in a special kind of way.Russians are actually proud of what they are doing ... its sad
>>534597130Ukraine and NATO are nazis!So yes, it is the duty of russians to fight the nazis for 5 more years
>>534597130disgusting beyond believe
>>534601862>I think before eoy.are you planning another successful amphibious operation
>>534597130Nigga you're the only one dying and your death doesn't affect me economically whatsoever. Iran's death does affect me due to gas prices, so if you were an Iranian flag we'd have a conversation.
Funny how ukies post this kind of shit 24/7 in their thread and you had to create a new thread because of how rare it is for your side
>>534601845They had a strong chance, threw too many tier 1s into meat grinders and lost.
To the last white goy.
>>534602424Patriotism and national pride is fine and all... but it doesn't really work in a society that prohibits journalists from reporting or civilians from demonstrating. So I'm not even sure how many are really proud or performing pride and whether it's just mostly apathy and indifference.
>>534602550The Russians are doing it for the Jews.
>>534597130My country invests a lot of money to help Ukraine build drones to kill ziggers with
>>534602839I know a lot of Russians living in the UK - they are extremely proud of their operation taking a stand defending against the nazi pigs in the ukraine.
>>534598288>MUH RICK AND MORTY
>>534597432Yeah it's a weird cognative dissonance. I love playing war games, stuff like total war where it feels epic seeing so much slaughter and yet I have such a strong aversion to seeing real human death in war footage.
>>534602072If you were danish you would know the UK left the EU. Some time ago. Retard.
>>534601890>>534602170Fuck off with your made up numbers pulled from your brown arse.
>>534597432Nah, call of duty is for retarded inbreds. No wonder it's so popular among the muttoids.
>>534602899Where do they live?
>>534603010What was made up?>>534602899I also have anecdotes
>>534603143Using 2022 figures to imply russhits hold 20% while pic related has been happening.
>>534599451In amazed at how clueless EU citizens are of their own government and it's role in prolonging this war
>>534603241>while pic related has been happening.
>>534601398
>>534603358You want a gore off? I promise you will lose faggot.
TZD will continue.
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>>534603241Go read it again, retard.>whether the price was steep for Putin if he stopped at that time>stopped at that time>stopped>After the retreat from Kyiv/Kiev and the north, I guess the following off-ramp that would've made sense was before Ukraine did counter-offensives on Kharkiv and Kherson. The cost of war vs territory gained was still a good deal for Putin.>off-ramp>The cost of war vs territory gained was still a good deal for Putin.---You are engaging with points that weren't made. Take your meds, schizo retard.
>>534598610>>534598652You are absolutely seething
>>534601304>>534601400>>534597130>>534597640I think all this gore-cast is satanic as fuckThe end time is now
>>534597130as if anyone could do anything to the contraryi just watched some "satire" from 2015 about HM17 and Donbas, about how a "Comedian" explains to the audience how the Fiat money system "works",...this was 10+ years ago...an these mindless NPCS are LAUGHING at the truth they are laughing at the "comedian" ACTUALLY TELLING THE TRUTH, not even jokes built in, just plain truth... the pronounciation / vocalization is that of a punchline yes, but the worded information is not, its no joke, explaining how banks make money out of thin air and the idiots keep giving their HARD EARNED "money" to the bank, and it just gets magically multiplied by a tenfold....how "journalists" "work", how they get their "images" from "agencies" that distort reality by withholding the full picture and context, how information gets spun and skewed...AND THESE NPC MISCREANTS WERE LAUGHINGlike that was a fucking jo0ke and totally not real, and "as if the bank would do such a thing" haha everyone knows the bank is honest and the system is not rigged against poors like us, that the NEWS always tell the truth, if that wasnt the case our whole system would not function anymore...AND THEY WERE LAUGHING... and then... the absolute state of todaythe escalation can not come soon enough
>>534598068to a Russian just 5 miles east of the Moscow city limits, this would be the most mindbreaking piece of futuristic tech they have ever seen, they would probably scream in fear and roll around on the ground speaking in tongues, smaller versions of themselves emerging from their abdomen, slower and slower until the Russian was too small to see, to small to know, to small to fear the unknown technology.
>>534597130>stop supporting ukraine so we can kill them better
>>534603758>muh christcuck fantasieskys nigga. nobody cares about those russian "human" shells
>>534597724they have been using those ugv for years now
>>534604220to a Russian just 5 miles east of the Moscow city limits, a toilet would be the most mindbreaking piece of futuristic tech they have ever seen
>>534597130I had my doubts but the lasts weeks showed me we can outlast you so yes
>>534603399>a gore off>you will lose faggot.
>>534603494
>>534603494nade to the neck seems to be very effective in self offening
>>534597130>are westernes ok with their money payingIvan, the truth is, YES. Americans are very okay with their money being wasted on things, and they mostly just don't think about it. The most important thing in American culture is this: When people ask how are you, just say "fine." Everything is about just acting like everything is fine, everything is normal, if it is or not doesn't matter, just act like it is. Just keep up the pretense.If you're waiting for Americans to get hot, you're gonna be waiting for a real long time. All of our politics that you see on TV, that's just 5% on the left fighting 5% on the right while 80% of people in the middle don't vote and don't watch or read the news and don't have any opinions whatsoever about politics. That's the reality.
>>534604671voter turnout has been consistently over 50% though. so what you said is literal bs, faggot
>>534597130>omg gais! we need more rare earth resources and we will have to cut down on personal computer part production! because we're running out cameras to mount on missiles!
>>534597130i see these fucking videos every damn day and can never identify which side it is.like the OP is apparently from russia, so does that mean those are russians that got bombed and he's showing us the barbarity of the enemy, or are those ukrainian solders and he's bragging about it?it's gotten to the point that i just don't care and am happy both sides are killing off their excess males, i hope they all die.
>>534598217What's the point of this war if Russia will import the same amount of pajeets? I thought they fought globohomo.
>>534604671America doesn't spend money on Ukraine anymore you've abandoned them
>>534604671Voter turnout is about 2/3rds of the eligible population. Of those, I'd estimate 1/3rd is well informed. Pretty sure you're talking about your own experiences only.>>534604807Literal bs? Germans and their scheisse porn... it's going too far.>>534604902Globohomo is cope-speak. Fidesz used it all the time and some of their members threw wild gay orgies. GOP members have been caught in sting operations, soliciting male prostitution. I could make a large list of hypocrisies to show it's meaningless. Why are people so obsessed with cultural liberalism within all political factions? It's a fucking waste of time and a distraction.
>>534601890>russian losses are 10% of ukrainian lossesfunniest shit i've read all week
>>534604372>ivan…>come home, ivan…
