africa never developed because there just wasnt anything for making roadslatin america lagged for a similar reason until the machinery was mass produced in the 70-80s but the difference is the formations of rock were presentbasically developing anywhere you make trains first that carry rocks for roads then people have trucks do everythingthats the only way an economy can existalso the other issue is that regardless logistics there's not enough natural nutrients being produced for people which mostly would be from animal productsyou can maybe make up for it with synthesized pills supplements and stuff but delivery would still be a massive bitchso the sooner people just admit these points and also a lot of people just are essnetially destined to live in crushing povertymy recommend is to just remove one of every womans ovary so they only fertile half as often or take turns with safe months in sexual activtiesthats about as nice and positive as people could really get about the future in the global southany other good idea would be like migration pacts probably as a pipeline to coastal afr and then even lat ambut these things also dont speak to issues in the middle east which from climate change later could be unlivablethe last crazy idea would be to pipe in food somehow which is zaney but still feasiblethats about it for my study of what could be said in brief and obvious about the worlds real main issuesi took it seriously but its so silly to have to explain such junk like also to many people the obvious consequences of their everyday decisions and attitudes and the trend to bicker on topics like disparity rather than parse things clearlyits possible to donate road material but basically even huge container ships dont carry that much weight so it would take too long even if you tried anyway in case anyone even thinks on italso adding plastics to roads is just for preventing cracks for a bit longer
>>534597658>just so you know Africa never developed because they didn't have things whites invented Yes, very insightful, shitskin OP.
>>534597658You can make roads out of dirt, genius.
>>534597658>We didn't invent the wheel because we had no roads.Turdy logic at play here.
i guess to say something basic about the concept of oppressionif the lord smartyface didnt oppress you then your fellows would and if they stop then just the environment will even now with oil shit because like duh it climates
>>534597658the romans built them a 2100 mile highway from the Atlantic to the Nile 2000 years ago you retarded gorilla nigger
>>534597789>>534597876>>534597956theres this shit called rain fuckwits
>>534597979central africa is literally just trees then soil and then the water table
and my amazing thesis has been absolutely defendeddonemy 25th phd in obvious shit
>>534598009>nigga we can't be developing nuffin wid all dis rain and sheitLol, niggers Lmao
its pretty funny if you compare this to like ggas because the timeline between serious colonization and general lack of presence in northern america anyway mostly support the concept of a gradual decline of natives in americait is reasonable that probably did happenbut also most "educated" populations would similarly be cut to a tenth in 50 to 120 years instead of 150so idk its more to say that apparently most people dont actually give a f about living or somethingwhateverid just make gmo guys and wed race jets around the planet after everyone else is deads
>>534598009>rainTurdys can't into drainage in 2026 I've noticed, just dig a trench retards.
>>534598299>reddit spacingWeve been had, boys. Bamboozled, even.
>>534598139lookthey almost all are just rape babies soactually i approve of slurs and diapprove of blaming anyone for their future lots
>>534598352dont reproduce rtardthe fact you come here is proof you are also trash
>>534598009We have rain too, retard
>and my amazing thesis has been absolutely defended>done>my 25th phd in obvious shit
>>534598309those are made of rocks too idiotschool was a mistakethey should have just made everyone have to be tazed for not finishing halo 3 on heroic
>>534598139Hey chud. Your mom divorced your dad. Palpable hurt. Calm down whores child. Not my problem.
>>534597658Your post is nearly incomprehensible, but Africa is a geographically cursed continent, it's true. Barely any natural harbors, and the ones that do exist are few and far apart. Few navigable rivers. Not really any good coastal plain, the coast is mostly either mountainous or disease ridden swamp. Giant fuck-off desert and giant fuck-off jungle taking up most of the continent. The very few places on the continent that would have been good to build civilization were too out of the way from Europe and Asia to benefit from trade with other civilizations. Even the Europeans had difficulty colonizing it, and they didn't get around to Africa until long after colonizing the rest of the world and that era was in its most exploitative phase and on its way out, so they didn't really benefit from European civilization building the way the Americas did. It's true that niggers just aren't really that bright either but the place still wouldn't be in such an astoundingly bad place if it had better geography.
>>534597658not at all knowledgeable about this but I seriously have no idea why the lack of roads would be the determining factor of whether a village could end up being a city state.wasn't it mainly determined by how well the settlement farmed and protected themselves?i don't see roads being necessary in either of them.
>>534598917thats intentionalthey write biology in ooblediglork for a reason tooalso as far as that term i use that to describe 80% of whites also
>>534597658How did Romans build roads before trains?
didnt readthey're dumb niggers is why
>>534598950when no one is controlling the demographics and you get zerg population blooms yo uneed modern infrastructure and industrialism even in its infancy needed towns and there wasnt even cobbles to stone in to horse carriage routes
>>534598646You're extremely stupid anon, your projection doesn't cover up that fact.
>>534598995lots of stray rockscobblestone and gravel then more sophisticated masonrybut also in poroximity to good wheat fields and coasts for protein from fishadd to that the presence of metal ores and...
Africa never developed because they didn't have to prepare for several months of no food so there wasn't an evolutionary pressure to plan ahead for the future and do things at specific times and keep track of celestial movements to know when to plant and when to harvest. Africa experienced a perpetual summer. Yeah they had wet and dry seasons but there was always something they could go out and find to eat.
>>534598646only such a fake and gay country as america could produce such a worthless retarded faggot like you
America did it with Chinese and blacks. They would blast their way through mountains and build bridges and circumnavigate quicksand. They didn’t build roads and rails to do anything but extract wealth from both countries.
>>534599055you and your army of one faggot says so
>>534598950I don't really know if the road thing is true or not, OP seems a little schizophrenic. But entertaining that it might be, a city state does need trade to thrive, and for trade you need roads or harbors. And Africa doesn't have very many good harbors.
>>534598009>africans are retarded because someone else didn't give them stuffAre you a nigger?
>>534598917Still confused how ancient civilizations like the ones in Indonesia & indochina were able to have capable nations despite having dogshit terrain (mountainous jungle with heavy rain and occasional typhoons), but africa still couldn't.
>>534599086find me any drainage pipe that isnt concrete fuckdipbitchcuntqueerclitoris>>534599088yeah and its like just too inefficient for these remote areas to even be worth clearing forests and raising cattle etc and such
>>534599102>a city state does need trade to thriveI'm just confused how camels don't fit this niche. Camels don't need infrastructure to travel long distances and trade.Arabs did fine with it.
>>534597658>africa never developed because there just wasnt anything for making roadsDig trench along road. Fill with big rocks. Fill gaps with sand. Take some more big rocks and break into smaller sharp rocks. Use to cover big rocks. Cover with more sand. Take round flat rocks from river, pave over sand. Congratulations, you've built a road based on Roman construction techniques using nothing but rocks and sand. Some of their roads are still in use across the Mediterranean and North African countries.
>>534597658Everybody link this retard Empire of Dust and make him watch the saga of that one Chinese guy trying to get the Africans to turn up on time to operate the rock crusher, so he can finally get a shipment of gravel.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDJ4-MtAkQ
>>534597658no, it's obviously because of evil wypipo holding the black communities down
>>534599107Harbors, anon. Indochina is to this day a juggernaut of international trade with some of the most important straits and harbors in the world. You can make up for unfavorable local conditions if you can trade. >>534599155I mean, camels don't really exist beyond the Sahara, do they? There's kind of a massive fucking jungle between the habitat of camels and the rest of Africa.
>>534599103i never said they were retarded but did imply that it is illconceived of them to conceive as much in their present circumstances>>534599107coasts and horses basically
>>534599067They dont have stray rocks in africa?
Amazing thread.
>>534597658>any other good idea would be like migration pacts probably as a pipeline to coastal afr and then even lat amAbsolutely not. There's barely any niggers in here, and we're already having a difficult time as is. Fuck off with that shit. Not my problem.
>>534599107You have to be specific. What part of Africa? Egyptians had everything the Roman’s and Greeks had. Or are we talking Congo? Flood plains like those around Ethiopia that harbored man eating monsters in the night searching for food and water? Or Southern Africa that intentionally created apartheid in its conquest?
>>534598009Roofin be hard and shit nigga
>>534599181no rocks no sand also no wheat only fruits and crap so you never get around to any of this shit period>>534599210they should never have helped or hurt them in any ways
>>534599230>>534598049
>>534597658Why is Africa a shithole today?It isnt technology, they were introduced to western technology hundreds of years ago.It isnt slavery, that ended 200 years ago.It isnt colonialism, that ended 100 years ago.It isnt the cold war, that ended 40 years ago.These nations have been "developing" for longer than it took Europeans to go from the discovery of steam power to full industrialization, and we had to invent everything from scratch, they can just copy our very publicly available designs.So what's the fucking problem? Why do the majority of them still live how whites did during stone age?
>>534598009Google what cobblestone is, you fucking moron.
>>534599355uhhhhhhhthat's what the whole post explainsjust think about it moreif i cant pay for something can i make anyone make it?would it last for any real period of time or get anything real done?
>>534599395>>534599343
>>534599261Took me a bit to realize the anons here are calling every nigger south of the sahara dumb, not every nigger in the continent.But yes, still have no solid answer how every nigger past the desert couldn't start a proper civilization.>>534599220>tradeI'd say thats a good explanation, but I still don't see it as the best answer. What would a bunch of tribesmen living near the coast of south east asia offer to people trading from arabia to the far east?I doubt fish, pearls & jungle wood is good enough goods for them to build a nation on.
>>534599261You're reaching for a grab bag of random out of context facts, that don't actually fit together into a coherent pattern.Many places were colonized, then went on to become powerhouses, like India, Korea, hell, Britain was colonized by Romans.And frankly, since Apartheid ended, South Africa has gone backwards.You are failing to acknowledge the elephant in the room.That Subsaharan Africa has never internally produced a society more advanced than an iron-age chiefdom, of the king that was becoming obsolete in Europe around the time of Christ.
>>534599343>>534599465
>>534599492too many people not enough roads and roads ARE made of rocksso its both factors
>>534599484>I'd say thats a good explanation, but I still don't see it as the best answer. What would a bunch of tribesmen living near the coast of south east asia offer to people trading from arabia to the far east?Spices, m8. Pretty big deal. Also, you don't even necessarily have to offer anything to trade if you exist as an intermediary between other trading partners. Southeast Asia would have been a stopover for traders travelling between China and India/Arabia. They would have had a lot of wealthy people travelling through. Same reason the Strait of Malacca is still so important today, or hell, the Strait of Hormuz. Iran doesn't have leverage because of what they offer in trade, but because they control the trade route itself.
you fags are proof this could never be a ted talk so whateveracademic bitches are just as faggy about bvious junk if it would scare their 5 year old little girl shadows
>>534597658Remove yourself from the genepool, you incomprehensibly stupid retard.
>>534599602Kek, stupid fucking nigger.Not a single rock in all of Africa, eh? Not a speck of gravel? No pebbles, shingles, cobbles or granules? All shit, no grit?Face it, niggers are too stupid and lazy to function in any civilized capacity.
>you fags are proof this could never be a ted talk so whatever>academic bitches are just as faggy about bvious junk if it would scare their 5 year old little girl shadows
>>534599492So you don’t understand Africa, and wonder why they didn’t create cultural dead ends while their tribal ways are still thriving? Why they didn’t have a society that rivaled the kingdoms that operated on exclusively capitalist societies when they can just go for a walk and pick up a pocketful of uncut diamonds who would then place them at risk for Jewish slave trade and control of the precious stones out of the continent with DeBeers? I think you should look at a country like Nigeria and see how much wealth is actually there. Then see what nations and corporations propped up warlords and tyrants to keep control of what natural resources. If you’re not prepared to talk about what happens during their exploitation, you should at least look at the picrel for what happens after.
>>534599698>>534599753you literally are 1 gay nigger jidf faggo
>>534599774pic is accurate
Wakanda would be real if only africa had rocks, chud.
>>534597658genuinely the dumbest niggerlover theory i've seen in a long time"they couldn't make roads, the material just wasnt there bro.."really?? that's the best you can do?
>>534599827actually yes it really probably would>>534599830it really is literally true just look up road building material shortages globally or something then go outside and see if you can get anywhere without a road
>>534599827Africa has such rare rocks they could literally pave their streets with carbon dust and precious metals with what they dig up.
But Africa did develop.They worked out metallurgy all on their own and they had the Swahili coast, the Timbuktu library and the Ethiopian empire.
>>534599778>history in africa began with the arrival of white peopleI dont think youre making the argument you think youre making.
>>534597658Sorta. Infrastructutre is important, but there's deeper issues. For a preface, Africans were poorly developed because they had geographical barriers like the Sahara desert and malaria preventing racial intetaction with the more civilized area of eurasia. It's easily proven with how relatively more significantly advanced they are today due to their more intense interaction with European imperialism, general globalism, and increasingly the internet. Generally that is the main way to catch up if your society didn't originate strong civilization relative to contemporaries. Much of Europe were unga bungas until Roman civilization buck broke them or the Chinese sinicizing everyone around them. That lack of access retarded them like with the amerindians and islanders who were still stone age due to general isolation. That means less knowledge being shared.Africans today had not have a couple thousands of years to cultivate their civiization in a similiar way. They didn't have a rome or china or some middle eastern civilization to adopt civilization from for much of that time. However, due to globalization, they have a great opportunity to finally catch up and build up those civilizing traditions. It'll passively happen but is accelerated through intentional actions done by both their government and their people's efforts. Currently, they are getting relatively better as they gain experience governing themselves. They likely won't reach the levels of top countries any time soon. They're also not at the level where increased integration like mmigration with the west is ideal, en masse. They're behind middle eastern muslims as a comparison. Roads alone won't fix shit. They don't have widespresd traditions of maintenence yet. They'd best develop generationally (culturally and genetically) if they stay open to differing mixes ideologies to find the one that works. China is a good example of this idea of using alternative systems of governance.
>>534599922even if you made roads with plastics yo ucould probably only run golf carts through the bitch its so wide
>>534600009they dont feed themselves despite having the most arable land and fresh water sources of everywhere anywherethey cant do anything without a massive dispersed network of stable roadsthe rest is copy paste even if you are mentally retarded
Pic related is must watch 140 Italian documentary on the end of colonial Africa>>534599225>horsesYou can tame zebras. Germans did when they colonized Africa but Africans never did themselves.
>>534599968I’m asking you why they need to compete with white people when their tribal ways are outlasting western countries? How many governments and economic policies has England been through since they were ruled by kings? Two? Three? Belgium is barely even a country anymore after its king sunk every last penny of his treasury trying to loot Africa. And you think that makes them superior to African tribes? Why? Because they still used spears and leather shields instead of modern firearms? If the west and north had kept their grubby paws off of Africa, why would they have needed to change beyond adapting to modernity with indoor plumbing and electricity? And that’s just covering the tribes that weren’t nomadic and built 100 room mansions out of mud for their entire tribe to occupy and find shelter from? Don’t get mad because you are being intellectually obtuse and expecting others to follow along with your outdated information. When was the last famine in Africa now that I think about it. Post genocide Rwanda? Which is now a thriving community that has rebuilt in to a wealthy nation?
>>534600107africa has 1 billion peopleany scene with a grain field and some animals is cherry picked crap from .1% of the placemost of it is dense intractable jungle that people for almost ever just picked fruits inthese completely locked countries have no fields or diversity of climate and only have shanties in the middle of mud luckily with tin on top and some brickstheres nothing the fuck to do thats worth the industrial equipment but they are getting to some oil independently to turn a bit of a tide
>>534600107No one tamed zebras. Because Zebras are basically the violent murder donkeys of the equine world. What they did do was tame Ostriches, which are easier to tame and ride, but they aren’t built for heavy loads, just light sprints.
constatnly feeding them grain has been holding back proceeds from the extraction that was mostly unimportant to other economies anywaybut in the future people probably will need the food that can be made in africa
>>534597658> Africa boasts significant natural stone resources, with major quarrying operations concentrated in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Morocco, and Togo. Key materials include high-quality granite (Rustenburg, Impala Black, Zimbabwe Black), marble, quartzite, sandstone, and tiger eye, with mining operations expanding to meet global demands.That’s AIslop from google, they also have the most gold and gemstones. But no, you’re right, they just didn’t have dem rocks for dem roads!
>>534600162300 million Africans are currently suffering famine according to the UN. 20% of food in Africa is imported from other continents. https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/global-hunger-declines-rises-africa-and-western-asia-un-report>>534600262t. retard who doesn't know what taming vs domesticating isIf Africans bothered to tame and breed Zebras they would be domesticated by now. Wild bovines are vicious but white people tamed them and bred them into cows. Same with horses>>534600222Mongolia is landlocked mostly useless steppe outside of grazing yet they have massive mining industry. Africans lacked the faustian spirit.
>>534600287>but in the future people probably will need the food that can be made in africaSorry to say buddy, but most of Africa is going to be too hot in the future to live in, let alone do any agriculture. It's the most vulnerable continent to climate change, rising temperatures and droughts are going to fuck it. The place never had a chance.
>>534600351none in the central is the problemwith this issue it has to be close or the transport isnt worth italso yo ulooked up valuable stones not the junk that goes in conrete and pavementthe difference is orders of magnitude more quantity
>>534597658>africa never developed because there just wasnt anything for making roads>basically developing anywhere you make trains first that carry rocks Didn't read anything else because you're retarded.Why do you think roads were created? Because people had carts and dirt roads were inadequate. Roads were upgraded as carts became more widespread or upgraded themselves. You don't build a road then the cart. niggers never progressed down the cart invention path so no shit they never built roads.You're suggesting something akin to they never discovered black powder because they didn't have access to ak-47s.
>>534600508plants dont really actually carea nd you can just dig wells with actual modern tech plus the electric stuff coming too but yeah the people would have issues
>>534600564you dont get itthere isnt concrete and pavement for 1 BILLION peopleTODAYwith ANYTHING WE HAVE TO HELP
so obviously like counter examples are sa and eththey have some of that and some big dams too nowbut still theres people in bumfuck with no hope basically
>>534600614>africans never invented the wheel because they are overpopulated in the presentDo you not understand linear time? What the actual fuck is your major malfunction?
seems everyone gets it now>>534600787this is an obvious tranny shilli havent seen anyone do cointel here in so long because no one even discusses anything anymorepic is just proving who i am
>>534597658>>534597973>>534598009damn you are legitimately retarded
oh so like the people that reside really in the exact about middle of nothing typically do have that actual mental retardment issue and some behavioral excessesthre is something to be said about diversity and population density and when people get internet culture they start to divide more as they create their own identities anyway thats not all really important but the issue is that there isnt really always someone to debate or that can be educated of these thingsmore or less it can be more true to say there is no effective representation anywayjust like americans CAN vote but it basically doesnt even matter most of the time because theres usually something objectively bettereven if it like is maniacal often
>>534601351okay ill be more clearunlike all the other colonies of some of other one africa has lagged in development because the flynn effect never began from effective employment or internment to some dispersed industry devisable in their environs that could holster the potential of enough of the populace as to set about the trends towards development seen along with independence movements and it mostly is due to terrain as was the case with the indian subcontinent and many island nations and territories not having accessible quarries for the highest volume soft rocks needed for roadways that can robustly manage water weight and heat to transport tons of goods at reasonable speeds to things like stores and domiciles and the analogy holds also for cobbled devisements for girded work animals preventing any stage of indeppendent intensive agriculture foundries and stone works simply because the materials to do any of it werent present in sufficient quantities and even in areas that possessed some they would just be swamped by excess demand
>>534597658>basically developing anywhere you make trains first that carry rocks for roads>>the train was invented before the road
>>534601771yeah before the road made for trucks yestrucks that actually carry any really significant amount of anythingyoure thinking about like roads for wagons and carts which are slow and light
im goin to bed nowdont no one ask a nother question or comment w/o reading like ill do fuck about it anymore
